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HeavyMetalParkingLot
09-07-2003, 05:42 AM
Anti-hair metal, revisionist rock historians would have you believe that hair metal was dying out by 1987. This is a lie. Poison would not even release "Every Rose Has its Thorn" until 1988 and Slaughter would not debut until 1990. Warrant's and Tesla's biggest hits were not until 1991, and Def Leppard spent five weeks at the top of the Billboard album chart in 1992. Nevertheless, when grunge got big, it did a lot of damage to the glam metal scene. Kurt Cobain struck the fatal blow to hair metal, and, worse, he was proud of it. He felt that by replacing the happy, uplifting sounds of pop metal with his depressing dirges, he was taking music forward. He thought that going from an era where virtuoso guitarists were glorified to an era where it was uncool to be an accomplished musician was progress. He thought that taking away music based on melody and replacing it with angry yelling was an improvement. Cobain would have thought that an Egg MacMuffin was an improvement on smoked salmon, basically.
Unfortunately, there were areas in which Kurt was definitely right. He said he didn't like the sexism and macho posturing (not that Kurt would be capable of using such a big word as "posturing", but if he could have, he would) in hair metal, and he had a point. Most 80s rock bands wrote lyrics that were frankly degrading. And I don't think anyone is going to say they miss the enormous hair and tight clothes. But still, it's depressing that such great music was rejected and replaced by such disgusting music.
This is not, however, an anti-grunge page. Grunge is dead, and we metal fans can revel in that fact. After all, hair metal fans can say, "I miss when the music was loud, the songs were catchy, people were happy, and the musicianship was phenomenal." What are grungies supposed to say? "I miss when the musicianship was crap, everybody was depressed, nobody had any fun, and the songs had no melody whatsoever." Hmmm… Anyway, grunge is dead. The Kiss reunion tour spat on its grave. Then came comebacks from Def Leppard, Motley Crue, and Poison, all doing far better than critics expected. And, with the new decade well and truly here, we can gain revenge on the ridiculous weed-smoking grungers by pointing out, "You are SO nineties!!!"
With grunge dead, we all hoped the tide would turn musically. Hair metal people are realistic. Hair metal is not coming back to relive its glory days of the late '80s. But we dared to hope that the new fashion would be something melodic, with good musicianship. No such luck.
The noughties are here and with them we have nu metal, essentially grunge with added gayness, to all intents and purposes. These bands think they are so original, but in fact, there is nothing original about any of it. Let's examine nu metal in all its lameness, shall we?
Down-tuned guitars: Nothing new about this. Blues musicians have traditionally tuned down to E Flat, and Motley Crue's entire Dr. Feelgood set was tuned down to D for added power. The down-tuned nu metal sound, however, is simply absurd. The strings are down so low they are virtually hanging off the neck, leaving a woolly, indistinct barrage of black noise.
Samples, DJs, scratching, and all that lameness: Please! Is it rock or dance? I'm all for diversity but this is not about music… Aside from the sheer lack of creativity involved in samples, the whole vibe of rock 'n' roll with its jamming and unpredictability is removed in a sea of computer-generated mechanical perfection. And while DJ-ing may be quite a skill (debate that elsewhere), to class DJs as musicians is pretty laughable. Anyway, all that stuff is just nauseating. AND their use of loops is simply down to bad musicianship. Losers.
Stupidity: If you asked me to describe any nu metal band in ten words, intelligent would not be one of them. Not would it be if you gave me 1000 words. This manifests itself in the lyrics, where Durst et al, too dense to think of anything to actually say, simply swear for four minutes in a time in a bid to persuade us that they are hard. It's not working, mate.
Melody vs. rap: One problem with guitars tuned sub-sonically low… no one can sing over them. Besides which, Korn, Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park and co. couldn't carry, let alone write, a tune to save their lives. So instead they rap, all very well except that rap depends on a) clever lyrics and B) diverse instrumentation. So with the same beat and essentially same feel, structure, and sound to every song, it is fair to say that all nu metal is in fact one song.
Lack of stage presence: It always startles me how much the members of Stain'd have in common with The Thunderbirds in their on stage movements.
Manufactured: Rock & roll is about rebellion. It is about independence, freedom, and attitude. So a band that is controlled, nay, manufactured by the record company is surely against the spirit of rock & roll. Indeed, it is not unfair to point out that manufactured rock & roll is an oxymoron -- a CONTRADICTION IN TERMS. In other words, these complete idiots posing as rock & rollers are puppets to the industry, simply a cynical, money-making scam which the record companies create and we are supposed to follow like sheep. Then MTV play them relentlessly, selecting the bands that suit the MTV, politically-correct, plastic and unthreatening (to them) way, at the same time rejecting other artists putting out quality product… the record companies and MTV work together to tell you what to listen to. Are you going to let them do that?
FIBI (For Idiots By Idiots): No real comment necessary here (but here's one anyway)… ever noticed the lame audiences nu metal attracts? And the way they dress...

And that's all I have to say about that.

Celerystalksme
09-07-2003, 05:49 AM
u didn't seriously expect me to read all that??

HeavyMetalParkingLot
09-07-2003, 05:51 AM
see dick, see dick get rejected at the local elementary school.

see dick cry, see dick buy a guitar.

see dick learn to play guitar, see dick start a band.

see dick get beat up at the heavy metal show.

see dick buy a limp turd album.

see dick score with prepubesent girls.

Celerystalksme
09-07-2003, 05:55 AM
Originally posted by HeavyMetalParkingLot@7 September 2003 - 15:51
see dick, see dick get rejected at the local elementary school.

see dick cry, see dick buy a guitar.

see dick learn to play guitar, see dick start a band.

see dick get beat up at the heavy metal show.

see dick buy a limp turd album.

see dick score with prepubesent girls.
none of that has happened to me...i wonder where i went wrong :(

oh wait i learnt to play the guitar...thats about it :(

HeavyMetalParkingLot
09-07-2003, 05:56 AM
it's ok celery, some day you will find the right third grader........

Celerystalksme
09-07-2003, 05:57 AM
Originally posted by HeavyMetalParkingLot@7 September 2003 - 15:56
it's ok celery, some day you will find the right third grader........
:huh: what age does that make them??

HeavyMetalParkingLot
09-07-2003, 05:58 AM
i dunno, i'm kinda dumb..........72 maybe?

Celerystalksme
09-07-2003, 06:02 AM
Originally posted by HeavyMetalParkingLot@7 September 2003 - 15:58
i dunno, i'm kinda dumb..........72 maybe?
meh....to get my 3rd badge i need to score with a chick double my age+1...so thats a 39 year old...so i kinda cant go for those 3rd graders :(

MUSLEMAN
09-07-2003, 06:11 AM
once again spam

Celerystalksme
09-07-2003, 06:13 AM
Originally posted by MUSLEMAN@7 September 2003 - 16:11
once again spam
says :spam: king

MUSLEMAN
09-07-2003, 06:17 AM
Originally posted by Celerystalksme+7 September 2003 - 02:13--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Celerystalksme &#064; 7 September 2003 - 02:13)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-MUSLEMAN@7 September 2003 - 16:11
once again spam
says :spam: king [/b][/quote]
you must be kidding you posts and then answer their own posts?? 90% of my posts are in the problem/questions helping where do yours come from?? shouldn&#39;t you be some where double posting an answer to your own post??? this guy start a serious topic and you have to spam it :lol: B) i&#39;m the spam king ha?? says who?? i guess only you, now i will let you post three times in a row and answer your own posts again :lol:
oh and i see 67% of your posts come from music world from answering your own post, very productive, :lol: great job, you know what you are right i&#39;m the spam king :lol: :lol: :P B)

Celerystalksme
09-07-2003, 06:18 AM
Originally posted by MUSLEMAN+7 September 2003 - 16:17--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MUSLEMAN @ 7 September 2003 - 16:17)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Celerystalksme@7 September 2003 - 02:13
<!--QuoteBegin-MUSLEMAN@7 September 2003 - 16:11
once again spam
says :spam: king
you must be kidding you posts and then answer their own posts?? 90% of my posts are in the problem/questions helping where do yours come from?? shouldn&#39;t you be some where double posting an answer to your own post??? this guy start a serious topic and you have to spam it :lol: B) i&#39;m the spam king ha?? says who?? i guess only you, now i will let you post three times in a row and answer your own posts again :lol: [/b][/quote]
ok cool

Celerystalksme
09-07-2003, 06:18 AM
no worries

Celerystalksme
09-07-2003, 06:19 AM
anytime :lol:

balamm
09-07-2003, 06:29 AM
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asmithz
09-07-2003, 06:41 AM
Why write so much i am not going to read that lol :D :D :P :D :P

Adster
09-07-2003, 01:15 PM
:lol: :lol:

HeavyMetalParkingLot
09-07-2003, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by Shad0w Hacker@7 September 2003 - 06:41
Why write so much i am not going to read that lol :D :D :P :D :P
didn&#39;t know you could read :-)

Celerystalksme
09-07-2003, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by HeavyMetalParkingLot+8 September 2003 - 00:05--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (HeavyMetalParkingLot @ 8 September 2003 - 00:05)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Shad0w Hacker@7 September 2003 - 06:41
Why write so much i am not going to read that lol :D&nbsp; :D&nbsp; :P&nbsp; :D&nbsp; :P
didn&#39;t know you could read :-) [/b][/quote]
:lol: :lol: :lol: