Lest we forget

[IdolEyes787]

"They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years contemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them".

http://www.fraterslibertas.com/Images/Manila04/crosses6.jpg

[chalice]

I Didn't Raise My Boy To Be A Soldier.

Ten million soldiers to the war have gone,
Who may never return again.
Ten million mothers' hearts must break,
For the ones who died in vain.
Head bowed down in sorrow in her lonely years,
I heard a mother murmur thro' her tears:
Chorus:
I didn’t raise my boy to be a soldier,
I brought him up to be my pride and joy,
Who dares to put a musket on his shoulder,
To shoot some other mother’s darling boy?
Let nations arbitrate their future troubles,
It’s time to lay the sword and gun away,
There’d be no war today,
If mothers all would say,
I didn’t raise my boy to be a soldier.
(Chorus)
What victory can cheer a mother’s heart,
When she looks at her blighted home?
What victory can bring her back,
All she cared to call her own?
Let each mother answer in the year to be,
Remember that my boy belongs to me!


Alfred Bryan

http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/4942

[anoneemuse]

saving private ryan ? :unsure:

[IdolEyes787]

It was Remembrance Day in Canada yesterday(Armistice Day,Veterans Day elsewhere).
You may be unaware that it commemorates those that gave their lives in defense of their fellows.
I am entirely humorless about it as I believe that they are due complete respect.

[anoneemuse]

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[JPaul]

It was Remembrance Day in Canada yesterday(Armistice Day,Veterans Day elsewhere).
You may be unaware that it commemorates those that gave their lives in defense of their fellows.
I am entirely humorless about it as I believe that they are due complete respect.

Indeed. However you may find that people from Ireland who lived through "the troubles" have a different view of armies and particularly the British one.

They have as much right to their opinion as you have to yours.

[IdolEyes787]

I'm not ignorant to that fact and so I wasn't offended by what Chalice posted.

I sincerely hope he feels likewise but since I have a personal reason for remembrance I'm not about to beginmaking any apologies for my post either.


Where anoneemuse might be from I have no idea(but I'm assuming it's someone's dupe account)

[JPaul]

I'm not ignorant to that fact and so I wasn't offended by what Chalice posted.

I sincerely hope he feels likewise but since I have a personal reason for remembrance I'm not about to beginmaking any apologies for my post either.




I don't think anyone wants you to do any such thing mate. No need for apologies and no need for explanations.

Personally I went for the 2 minutes silence, in memory of the whole Flanders thing. However I didn't wear a poppy, it's just not something I do. For my own reasons.

The chaps fought and died and as a result we have the right to make these decisions for ourselves. Ally that to the fact that we respect each others opinions, that is the greatest tribute I can think of.

[chalice]

I don't remember asking anyone to apologise for anything.

I firmly believe that those who die in any war should be respectfully commemorated. I posted a well known protest song popular during WW1 which tends to resurface every year around this time. I believe that it's as fitting a tribute as any and highlights the senseless waste of young lives. It's as true today as it ever was. I certainly didn't post it to slight the sacrifice, more to honour it.

On the subject of my homeland, I don't wear a poppy. Not out of disrespect for the fallen, just that, like just about everything in Ireland, the poppy has become absurdly over-politicised. And I can't be arsed with all that. Wearing one, delineates you in this place.

[JPaul]

Do you wear a lilly but.

[The Flying Cow]

'Greece though conquered took her conqueror captive, and brought in the arts to the uncivilized Latin peoples.' (Horace)

[chalice]

Do you wear a lilly but.

I don't wear a Lilly for much the same reasons, only ridiculously more complicated.

Where I'm from, the type of Lilly you wear denotes your particular affiliation to a (now, hopefully) defunct faction.

If you wear a paper Lilly, and fasten it with a pin, then you symbolise support for the Provisional wing of the IRA. If you wear a Lilly with glue on the back, you're known as a 'Stickie', which is representative of the Official IRA, who were a more Socialistic cell and are known to this days as 'Stickies'.

That's how anally absurd it gets. True story.