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KushBlow
11-21-2008, 09:41 PM
^ title. what do you care about more, the content of a tracker or the pre?

let's say tracker #1 had 5k torrents. but the pre-times were around 30 mins later than tracker #2.

and tracker #2 has only 2k torrents, but the pre-times are usually < 1min.

which would you choose?

1000possibleclaws
11-21-2008, 09:43 PM
i would choose pretime, cause some shows aka Californication i want to dl right away. 5k torrents is nothing, and the tracker would be pretty worthless to me if the pre's sucked as well. I don't see why you can't have both though.. If a tracker has great pre's eventually people will find out and start using it rather than their slower sites, and then the retention will become better on the faster site. I can't see a situation where you would have to pick one or the other, unless one of the trackers isnt a 0day site

integral
11-21-2008, 09:46 PM
Generally speaking I download '0day' releases the most, rather than older stuff, so just because of that I'd value pre more.

ajsi
11-21-2008, 09:48 PM
third factor, which is actually also important - the speed, is missing. anyway, i would choose content

hof
11-21-2008, 09:55 PM
For me, the content and ajsl is right. The speed is the most important thing to me. I don't really care about the pre time. I can have a file late by a day or so.
It's fine :)

CaptanAmerica
11-21-2008, 09:59 PM
content ofc! cuz what means speed if i dont need it

naikon
11-21-2008, 10:04 PM
content and speeds (up at least 4mbit's ~ 480kb/s) the most important 2 things for me, pre can be even 1h :P

piratebot
11-21-2008, 10:04 PM
pretimes. i love waiting for a scene group to rls something, but i hating waiting for it show up on the tracker...

content.

mrnobody
11-21-2008, 10:09 PM
^ title. what do you care about more, the content of a tracker or the pre?

let's say tracker #1 had 5k torrents. but the pre-times were around 30 mins later than tracker #2.

and tracker #2 has only 2k torrents, but the pre-times are usually < 1min.

which would you choose?

if i were to choose from what you gave it would be #1. Would be weired/lame/mental//crazy/insane to pick #2 just coz they pre 30 mins before the first one.

P.S. 5k torrents isn't much btw, especially if it is bunch of MP3s.

Nemrod
11-21-2008, 10:12 PM
I have never watched a movie, TV episode or whatever the same day I downloaded it, so for me pre-time is the less irrelevant thing to take in consideration.

jaszypoo
11-21-2008, 10:13 PM
Content.

IdolEyes787
11-21-2008, 10:17 PM
I have never watched a movie, TV episode or whatever the same day I downloaded it, so for me pre-time is the less irrelevant thing to take in consideration.

Really.
If it's that all encompassing important shouldn't you watch it on TV/see it in the theatre/buy the game?

slymester
11-21-2008, 10:19 PM
Pre-time although speed is important as asji pointed out

jaszypoo
11-21-2008, 10:22 PM
I have never watched a movie, TV episode or whatever the same day I downloaded it, so for me pre-time is the less irrelevant thing to take in consideration.

Really.
If it's that all encompassing important shouldn't you watch it on TV/see it in the theatre/buy the game?


Not necessarily true. Some of us don't have PVRs or TIVOs and/or are busy with our own lives, among other things. Nothing wrong with watching a primetime show on the weekend now, is there? ;)

IdolEyes787
11-21-2008, 10:25 PM
Missed my point .Then why would you need to get it 6 seconds after it's pre'ed

stoi
11-21-2008, 10:26 PM
I am the same as nemrod

I download it and it sits on my HDD for months before i even unrar the thing.

and buy pfft dirty word that lol

Only thing i watch on TV is Football/Soccer, and i never download TV episodes anyway.

Films I hardly ever watch, got to be really in the mood to sit down and watch one. (and i hate cams so i wait for a better release anyway, and i never watch them more than once, so pointless buying them on DVD.

and games are for the kids, they can only play so many at a time, so pointless burning 20 as soon as they come out, because the 1st 19 will get played for 5 minutes never to be touched again.

so answer to the question, Content 100% of the time, pre times are not important to me at all.

and neither is speed really, the slower you download it, the better the ratio you can get, never understood the fascination with speed on a tracker, you still have to upload the thing, and with asymetric ISPs, that could be days.

LubTheStaringCat
11-21-2008, 10:30 PM
How much does Pre-Times meen to everyone?
It doesn't really bother me, as long as I get that special episode.
I'm happy.

yayyyyyy
11-21-2008, 10:31 PM
the third: pretime + content :P

Nemrod
11-21-2008, 10:46 PM
I have never watched a movie, TV episode or whatever the same day I downloaded it, so for me pre-time is the less irrelevant thing to take in consideration.

Really.
If it's that all encompassing important shouldn't you watch it on TV/see it in the theatre/buy the game?


Well, remember I live in a country where not all TV shows are aired, even having cable TV they donīt air the same that you can watch in the North, besides that they broadcast the series 1 or 2 years later... one thing is that I can wait for watching them days or weeks later, and other very different is to watch them years later, when everybody knows what happened.
Anyway, I must be a weird guy... i.e: I like Boston Legal (I was tired of lawyers TV shows), I started to download it after I saw in TV some spare episodes of Season II on local TV ... when season 3 was about to end in USA. Now I try to follow it, I download the episodes and when I have 6 or 7... or 10... well, a boring weekend I give myself a good banquet . :D

ovisan
11-21-2008, 10:55 PM
Pretime it's nothing without a good rar application

WhoopDeDoo
11-21-2008, 11:18 PM
For music I'd honestly rather have good pre's. Same with TV episodes. Those are the two I'll watch/listen to the second I get them. Movies, I never download CAM/TS rips anyway. I wait till the DVDRips are released to download them.

Speed's the biggest importance to me. If I can't download the thing faster then 15kB/s I wont even bother. I'll go find it on another tracker/network.

TP635
11-21-2008, 11:23 PM
I hardly dl new stuffs. Most of what I dl are very old movies and old albums, so pre does not mean anything to me. Speed, if good is a bonus. I don't mind dling something that I want even if it takes 1 month to do it.

IdolEyes787
11-21-2008, 11:50 PM
Really.
If it's that all encompassing important shouldn't you watch it on TV/see it in the theatre/buy the game?


Well, remember I live in a country where not all TV shows are aired, even having cable TV they donīt air the same that you can watch in the North, besides that they broadcast the series 1 or 2 years later... one thing is that I can wait for watching them days or weeks later, and other very different is to watch them years later, when everybody knows what happened.
Anyway, I must be a weird guy... i.e: I like Boston Legal (I was tired of lawyers TV shows), I started to download it after I saw in TV some spare episodes of Season II on local TV ... when season 3 was about to end in USA. Now I try to follow it, I download the episodes and when I have 6 or 7... or 10... well, a boring weekend I give myself a good banquet . :D

Umm.
By really I meant I agree.
It was a bootiful answer though and since you are the second person in this thread to misunderstand me Nemrod I will go remove the virtual marbles from my mouth.
We have the same problem with certain US cable shows in Canada even though we share the longest undefended border in the world(or so the politicos tell me.meaning the border not the shows)

btw Disme told me you were dead as far as FST was concerned.Glad it wasn't true.

ukgenius
11-22-2008, 12:01 AM
Content. No doubt about it. I don't really care about the pre-times, as long as it gets to the site eventually!

jbloggs
11-22-2008, 12:02 AM
For pre-time, don't you have to be glued to your computer or is there some method to pre-times that I don't understand about it.

IdolEyes787
11-22-2008, 12:10 AM
Pre-times are how fast the tracker gets it jbloggs.It has nothing to do with the members.
And the fastest way for you is irc auto download. I hate it but I use it on certain sites out of necessity.

Nemrod
11-22-2008, 12:24 AM
btw Disme told me you were dead as far as FST was concerned.Glad it wasn't true.

Well... we could say he is almost right... not totally dead but very close. :)

respawn40
11-22-2008, 12:32 AM
I don't care about pre-times at all. I'd much rather belong to a tracker full of nice content, even if they don't have good pre-times. I never use the content until a little while later, because I've always got some sort of other content ready to be watched/played/whatever.

EDIT:



btw Disme told me you were dead as far as FST was concerned.Glad it wasn't true.

Well... we could say he is almost right... not totally dead but very close. :)

It seems like a lot of people have been "dying" lately :P

IdolEyes787
11-22-2008, 12:44 AM
If we can can keep more of these threads going and less the "I need" "type maybe good sorts will find the place worth returning to.

Roooney
11-22-2008, 01:31 AM
Content is the most important thing for me. I usually download series and they're always pre'd at night, (atleast where I'm from), so I'm not able to download the episode until early morning either way.

Rigel9
11-22-2008, 02:26 AM
I take content over 0day and 1337 speeds anyday, that's why I love what and karagara so much :D

TrAnCeTaSTiC
11-22-2008, 02:57 AM
I would definitely say content because I'm always on the lookout for new material.

FX2908
11-22-2008, 03:58 AM
Content for sure! I don't mind waiting 30min for the things i like. :)

joni22
11-22-2008, 04:34 AM
Pre time!

mrunal
11-22-2008, 05:37 AM
content of course i dont believe in shit like i watched it first.

Funkin'
11-22-2008, 06:04 AM
Definitely the content. I don't really give a fuck if I download the lastest file two minutes or thirty minutes to an hour after pre.

EstelleD
11-22-2008, 06:46 AM
Content for sure, the pretime is just a statistic.

AMnesko
11-22-2008, 09:07 AM
The content is what really matters.

s_player
11-22-2008, 09:21 AM
For me content is more important than pre time, so I would choose first tracker

curtanwoo
11-22-2008, 10:39 AM
content.

ovisan
11-22-2008, 10:40 AM
Speed and content.
I found a nice film, quite rare and I m downloading it with 30kB/s... mad!

womanizer
11-22-2008, 01:54 PM
the content

ppwater
11-22-2008, 06:11 PM
content~I can wait for the things I like

whip22
11-22-2008, 06:56 PM
i would think that by content you should say that the packs on the site would be awesome too. No one chose the second choice.

phosphors
11-22-2008, 07:47 PM
what a really dumb question....

NA_Magus
11-22-2008, 07:48 PM
what a really dumb question....

Second.

Enzo
11-22-2008, 08:07 PM
Content of course.. Who cares about pre-time

DannyGnXz
11-22-2008, 11:51 PM
There has to be a good balance between content & Pre-times. Those are the most successful trackers, imo.

cap87
11-23-2008, 11:10 AM
Content and speed for me ;)

wasaby
11-23-2008, 12:39 PM
Content and speed for me ;)

for me , too.

speed is important if you are not patient like me.
but i should also admit that, if you can not find what you are looking for in a tracker that means speed is zero.
10kB/s > 0 kB/s in this case eventually you can get it.

Presto
11-23-2008, 01:05 PM
I'd choose more content, who downloads all the torrents RIGHT after the release anyway?

dragoi
11-23-2008, 01:51 PM
I would choose the #1 as it has more conent and that is what is important for me , because altough I would donwload a torrent faster with 30 mintues than other I would watch it later not when I finished downloading it , so the one with more torrents for me

DuDutchy
11-23-2008, 02:33 PM
The ultimate example of content>speed is TL. They have so much stuff other trackers don't. Plus they have around 100 uploaders. :P

phosphors
11-23-2008, 02:36 PM
The ultimate example of content>speed is TL. They have so much stuff other trackers don't. Plus they have around 100 uploaders. :P

sct is content+speed, both more than tl, so...

DuDutchy
11-23-2008, 02:59 PM
The ultimate example of content>speed is TL. They have so much stuff other trackers don't. Plus they have around 100 uploaders. :P

sct is content+speed, both more than tl, so...I have both. And I can tell you that, apart from the packs, Tl has a broader selection of scene stuff than ScT does...
ScT has hell of a lot of packs with some exclusive shit, but it can't compete with TL content wise...

Presto
11-23-2008, 03:46 PM
Oh there's no competition, Sct wins.

piratebot
11-23-2008, 07:21 PM
I have both. And I can tell you that, apart from the packs, Tl has a broader selection of scene stuff than ScT does...
ScT has hell of a lot of packs with some exclusive shit, but it can't compete with TL content wise...
this is true, especially for new tv stuff.

NippleCake
11-23-2008, 07:26 PM
content>>members(community)>>speed>>pretimes

phosphors
11-23-2008, 07:38 PM
content>>members(community)>>speed>>pretimes

community better than speed/pre-times?, if your just lonely and want to waste time on forums there are plenty of places for that....

NippleCake
11-23-2008, 07:43 PM
content>>members(community)>>speed>>pretimes

community better than speed/pre-times?, if your just lonely and want to waste time on forums there are plenty of places for that....

ha i am talking about forums and irc... .getting to know people well, not "wasting time on forums"..

i would happily download something i really want at 1kbps.. ...you appreciate it more imo

Elpigle
11-24-2008, 12:26 AM
Contents>Speed>Community>pre-times

Albo Da Kid
11-24-2008, 12:56 AM
I would go for content and speed. Imo thats the best combination. Don't really care for pretimes. Maybe for the exception of some tv shows like dexter and entourage

nthpeter
11-24-2008, 10:47 AM
Definitely content, if pretimes are not larger than 1 day :)

jbloggs
11-24-2008, 01:26 PM
Pre-times are how fast the tracker gets it jbloggs.It has nothing to do with the members.
And the fastest way for you is irc auto download. I hate it but I use it on certain sites out of necessity.

I understand that its how fast the trackers get the content, but for members who care about pre-times, don't they have to be glued to their computers as they wouldn't know (I think) when anything was going to be released on the tracker until it goes up. So pre-time is more for bragging rights than anything else.