Need help picking out parts?

[Detale]

For those of you who are posting here to ask for some advice on system specs/parts on a new computer build please try as best you can to follow these guidelines:


Post a Budget and what type of currency you use

Post what the intended uses are for the computer

Post any things that you want in the build: Quad core/Video card type/required storage

[IdolEyes787]

Edit

[clocker]

Edit
Oooo, "editing" can be quite stressful on a PC.
You'll be needing a very high end machine.

[IdolEyes787]

I originally posted

"Under $500 cdn

Research in fractals specifically as pertaining to diffusion-limited aggregation.Also some advanced vga intensive CAD.

Now you lost me ".

but then I decided edit would be a lot easier on everyone.:ermm:

[clocker]

"Diffusion-limited aggregation" is sooo yesterday.
All the cool kids moved on like years ago.

Good CAD workstation vid cards will eat your entire budget.

Back to Tim Horton's to rethink the specs.

[IdolEyes787]

OK reworked specs

How about something to like chat with twats on the internet?

Included minibar would be a big plus.

[clocker]

http://media2.yourdailymedia.com/images/2RUnnz1M.jpg

[Detale]

That is so my next build!!!

[IdolEyes787]

Hate to nitpick but imported or domestic?

[Detale]

Budweiser FTW!!!

[clocker]

Hate to nitpick but imported or domestic?
I'm sure it could be modified to work with Canadian beer.
Probably need a metric nozzle or something.

[Acid_death69]

http://media2.yourdailymedia.com/images/2RUnnz1M.jpg
that's the nuts, i can see detale trying to build it then his misses having a go at him for wasting his time:P
It might be a tad warm like:whistling

[Hairbautt]

Looking at Dell's XPS 630 (http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/xpsdt_630?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&%7Eoid=us%7Een%7E29%7Einspndt_winxp_1%7E%7E).

Probably goin' to go quad-core @ 2.40 Ghz since that'll stack, 4 GB RAM, with Dual nVidia GeForce 9800 GT 512MB (stack again), but I'm not sure about the harddrive.



300GB WD Velociraptor 10K RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache [add $250 or $7/month1]
http://i.dell.com/images/global/configurator/general/spacer.gifhttp://i.dell.com/images/global/configurator/general/spacer.gif500GB - 7200RPM, SATA 3.0Gb/s, 16MB Cache [Included in Price]
http://i.dell.com/images/global/configurator/general/spacer.gifhttp://i.dell.com/images/global/configurator/general/spacer.gif750GB - 7200RPM, SATA 3.0Gb/s, 16MB Cache [add $100 or $3/month1]
http://i.dell.com/images/global/configurator/general/spacer.gifhttp://i.dell.com/images/global/configurator/general/spacer.gif500GB Data Security RAID 1 (2 x 500GB SATA 3Gb/s 7200 RPM HDDs) [add $150 or $4/month1]
http://i.dell.com/images/global/configurator/general/spacer.gifhttp://i.dell.com/images/global/configurator/general/spacer.gif1TB Data Security RAID 1 (2 x 1TB SATA 3Gb/s 7200 RPM HDDs) [add $500 or $15/month1]
http://i.dell.com/images/global/configurator/general/spacer.gifhttp://i.dell.com/images/global/configurator/general/spacer.gif500GB Performance RAID 0 (2 x 250GB SATA 3Gb/s 7200 RPM HDDs) [add $50 or $1/month1]
http://i.dell.com/images/global/configurator/general/spacer.gifhttp://i.dell.com/images/global/configurator/general/spacer.gif600GB Performance RAID 0 (2x300GB WD Velociraptor 10K RPM HDDs) [add $550 or $16/month1]
http://i.dell.com/images/global/configurator/general/spacer.gifhttp://i.dell.com/images/global/configurator/general/spacer.gif1TB Performance RAID 0 (2 x 500GB SATA 3Gb/s 7200 RPM HDDs) [add $150 or $4/month1]

Speed and Size Really Do Matterhttp://i.dell.com/images/global/configurator/general/spacer.gifhttp://i.dell.com/images/global/configurator/general/spacer.gif640GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cache™ [add $50 or $1/month1]
Any ya'll gots any advice ? :smilie4: Does 2 x 500 GB SATA mean that it's actually two seperate harddrives?

[IdolEyes787]

http://media2.yourdailymedia.com/images/2RUnnz1M.jpg
that's the nuts, i can see detale trying to build it then his misses having a go at him for wasting his time:P

I would literally pay money to see that.:lol:



It might be a tad warm like:whistling

Even with the liquid cooling?

[PlayeR]

E8400, E8500, E8600
which one is better?
I read somewhere and they recommend E8400. it won 2 or 3 customer choice award

[clocker]

The early 8400's were overclocking monsters, easily hitting 4GHz without extreme voltage or cooling.
Later steppings are more hit or miss but still an almost guaranteed 3.6GHz.

There is no difference tween the 3 chips other than stock speed and I suspect that they are just binned brothers under the skin.
Probably go with the 8500- it's only $20 more than the 8400 and may clock a bit better.
The 8600 is way too expensive for what it is- at it's price point I'd start looking at quads.

[Detale]

Looking at Dell's XPS 630 (http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/xpsdt_630?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&%7Eoid=us%7Een%7E29%7Einspndt_winxp_1%7E%7E).

Probably goin' to go quad-core @ 2.40 Ghz since that'll stack, 4 GB RAM, with Dual nVidia GeForce 9800 GT 512MB (stack again), but I'm not sure about the harddrive.



300GB WD Velociraptor 10K RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache [add $250 or $7/month1]
http://i.dell.com/images/global/configurator/general/spacer.gifhttp://i.dell.com/images/global/configurator/general/spacer.gif500GB - 7200RPM, SATA 3.0Gb/s, 16MB Cache [Included in Price]
http://i.dell.com/images/global/configurator/general/spacer.gifhttp://i.dell.com/images/global/configurator/general/spacer.gif750GB - 7200RPM, SATA 3.0Gb/s, 16MB Cache [add $100 or $3/month1]
http://i.dell.com/images/global/configurator/general/spacer.gifhttp://i.dell.com/images/global/configurator/general/spacer.gif500GB Data Security RAID 1 (2 x 500GB SATA 3Gb/s 7200 RPM HDDs) [add $150 or $4/month1]
http://i.dell.com/images/global/configurator/general/spacer.gifhttp://i.dell.com/images/global/configurator/general/spacer.gif1TB Data Security RAID 1 (2 x 1TB SATA 3Gb/s 7200 RPM HDDs) [add $500 or $15/month1]
http://i.dell.com/images/global/configurator/general/spacer.gifhttp://i.dell.com/images/global/configurator/general/spacer.gif500GB Performance RAID 0 (2 x 250GB SATA 3Gb/s 7200 RPM HDDs) [add $50 or $1/month1]
http://i.dell.com/images/global/configurator/general/spacer.gifhttp://i.dell.com/images/global/configurator/general/spacer.gif600GB Performance RAID 0 (2x300GB WD Velociraptor 10K RPM HDDs) [add $550 or $16/month1]
http://i.dell.com/images/global/configurator/general/spacer.gifhttp://i.dell.com/images/global/configurator/general/spacer.gif1TB Performance RAID 0 (2 x 500GB SATA 3Gb/s 7200 RPM HDDs) [add $150 or $4/month1]

Speed and Size Really Do Matterhttp://i.dell.com/images/global/configurator/general/spacer.gifhttp://i.dell.com/images/global/configurator/general/spacer.gif640GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cache™ [add $50 or $1/month1]
Any ya'll gots any advice ? :smilie4: Does 2 x 500 GB SATA mean that it's actually two seperate harddrives?


Yeah man 2x500 means 2 500GB HDD's but it's in Raid 1 meaning what is written to one HD is automatically written to the other as a backup so it's only 500Gb total. Not sure what data burst cache it tho :idunno:I would not recommend a Dell. You can get a better cheaper rig other places, better yet build you own man, it's way easy and we could coach you through it no prob ;)
At the current specs this is over $1600 US DUDE don't pay that much. you can get the same system for around $1000 Thats a $600 + difference man!!!

Here is how I figured the parts in like 5 min.

1http://c1.neweggimages.com/ProductImageCompressAll/19-115-017-04.jpg
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16819115017)
Item #:N82E16819115017
Return Policy: Processors (CPUs) Return Policy
-$10.00 Instant
$189.99
$179.992

http://c1.neweggimages.com/ProductImageCompressAll/14-150-318-02.jpg
XFX GeForce 9800 GT PVT98GYDF4 Video Card (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16814150318)
Item #:N82E16814150318
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$3.00 Instant
$30.00 Mail-in Rebate (http://images10.newegg.com/UploadFilesForNewegg/rebate/SH/XFX14-150-318Nov1Nov3008lc772.pdf)
$305.98
$299.981( for 2 cards )

http://c1.neweggimages.com/ProductImageCompressAll/13-128-358-03.jpg
GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P ATX Intel Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813128358)
Item #:N82E16813128358
Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate (http://images10.newegg.com/UploadFilesForNewegg/rebate/SH/GIGABYTE10MIRsNov01Nov3008lt12US.pdf)
$136.991

http://c1.neweggimages.com/ProductImageCompressAll/17-139-002-18.jpg
CORSAIR CMPSU-620HX 620W Power Supply (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16817139002)
Item #:N82E16817139002
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$40.00 Instant
$30.00 Mail-in Rebate (http://images10.newegg.com/uploadfilesfornewegg/rebate/SH/Corsair7MIRsNov16Nov3008ll97.pdf)
$189.99
$149.991

http://c1.neweggimages.com/ProductImageCompressAll/11-129-021-36.jpg
Antec Nine Hundred Black Computer Case With Side Panel Window (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16811129021)
Item #:N82E16811129021
Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy
-$30.00 Instant
$139.99
$109.991

http://c1.neweggimages.com/ProductImageCompressAll/20-231-145-03.jpg
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820231145)
Item #:N82E16820231145
Return Policy: Limited Non-Refundable 30-Day Return Policy
-$10.00 Instant
$64.99
$54.99

Grand Total:$931.93

Now you could always play around with the Case and the Mobo, or even get a faster CPU for the money you're looking to spend. Think about it man

[Hairbautt]

I'll think of the warranty that it'll have :emo:

[Detale]

You have warranties from each of the manufacturers.

[PlayeR]

thanks for the info, clocker

[Detale]

It might be a tad warm like:whistling

Even with the liquid cooling?

Na man you got it all wrong it'll be beer cooled. ;)

[harshytkage]

Budget- Unlimited
Use- SUPERHARDCORE NUTS GAMINg
main dilemma-
ATI 4870s crossfire(4X) or nvidia
MOtherboard
i7 or not?

[Detale]

WOW sorry I didn't see this post. I'll come back in a bit with some spec suggestions ;)

I just saw that the budget is unlimited eh. Doesn't sound too serious. If it is unlimited though fuck it you go for the i7 and let us all know how it works out.

Get these

Intel Core i7 Extreme Edition 965 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115200)


EVGA 132-BL-E758-A1 LGA 1366 Intel X58 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188039)


and 2 of these
XFX GX280NZDDF GeForce GTX 280 XXX (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150328)

[IdolEyes787]

Looking at building a rig preliminarily for for mid to high-mid range gaming .

Budget $1500 to $2500 cdn(firm on the upper end)

Basically would like a comparison to see if the extra cash spent on i7/x58/DDR3 would be worth it at the moment.

Besides the obvious the main feature I'm looking for is a quality case with good air flow(it will be an air cooled machine)either steel or aluminum.
Not going to be extremely OC'ed btw.
Storage isn't important I've got lots of spare laying around that I can throw in.

[clocker]

Nothing I've seen about the i7 platform convinces me that it's worth the premium over s775, especially when it comes to gaming.

The vid card(s)- and the supporting hardware...mainly PSU- are going to be the primary consideration.
The video cards are also going to be the main heatsource in the case, so attention to their cooling, whether stock or aftermarket, is going to be crucial.

I know little about video cards so someone else will have to advise you there.

Lots of cases will fit the bill but again, I've never left a case unmolested so my recommendations would be semi-useless.

Actually, I'm not much good to you at all today, am I?

[IdolEyes787]

That's OK I appreciate that you took the time to not answer me.:lol:
If I stick with tried and true

Then I'm thinking http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128358

(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128358)It supports up to DDR2 1333 but I've been told anything over 800 isn't worth the extra money?
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128358)I like G.Skill so any suggestions?

(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128358)Also on cpu any point of getting anything better than the 8400(9550?)
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128358)If I'm not going i7 money basically isn't an issue but I don't want to throw it away either.
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128358)

(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128358)

[clocker]

Great motherboard.
This G.Skill. (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231166)
The 8400 is a wonderful chip- especially if you're interested in clocking the snot out of it.
Since you're not, I'd go Q9550 (another great clocker, BTW) as it has great bang-for-the-buck and will do some things better than the dual core.

Now you're down to the vid card and case basically.

This case (http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cases/2008/10/31/cooler-master-atcs-840-classic-review/1) has been getting some great reviews.

[IdolEyes787]

That's certainly a nice case .
The only thing that worries me is someone mentioned this in a review:

"The PCI/AGP slots are tight, and I mean super tight making adding cards a chore. I had to use some needle-nosed pliers on my vid and sound card to bend the metal prongs to just the right angle. I like a snug fit, but this was a little much".

I've been thinking about the Coolermaster HAF
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160

but it's a little on the gaudy side .

[Detale]

I like the flip-up USB ports alot dude. Still the Antec 900 (http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021&Tpk=antec%20900) is my personal fav, has anyone heard anything about the 900-V2 at all?

[droste]

did u already bought your comp, detale? if not i can suggest to buy good stuff right away than some hardware that is not so powerful cuz if u buy more older hardware u are soon after the development again :)

[JordoR]

Not sure if people still view this section of the board but I thought I would post anyway. I'm going to be looking myself but some other advice would be nice.

Budget ~$1000 CAD. OK if over a bit in price.
Looking for a gaming/work computer.

CPU: Intel i5 or i7
RAM: 8GB minimum required
Vid Card: Prefer NVIDIA
HD: 500GB is enough
+Standard DVD Drive

Don't need a monitor,keyboard,etc.

Thanks.:)

[Detale]

I still pop in here. i'll check conversion rates to usd and be back in a lil bit. How much gaming do you do? Like to you want the highest end vid card or something with a reasonable price tag like the GTX 260 or what?

OK so here is an initial spec:
LG DVD Burner (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136177) 27.99

COOLER MASTER Storm Scout (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119196)89.99

GIGABYTE GV-N26SO-896I GeForce GTX 260 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125294)204.99

CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005) 99.00 (-20 rebate bringing it to $79)

G.SKILL 4GB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231193) X2 191.98

GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD3 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128412) 134.99

Intel Core i5-660 Clarkdale 3.33GHz (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115219) 207.99


Grand total $957.92 USD ( Google conversion says "989.626648 Canadian dollars")

Not to mention you could always spend $200 extra and get this (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductCombos.aspx?Item=N82E16827136177&SubCategory=5&SortField=0&PageSize=10&page=1) combo if you could live with dual Radeon HD 4860 cards Which seems fine to me even though I'm a Nvidia man myself ;)

[Snee]

You do know there are 5770s about and whatnot, right?

[Detale]

Shirley but he said he Prefers NVIDIA

[LubTheStaringCat]

Not sure if people still view this section of the board but I thought I would post anyway. I'm going to be looking myself but some other advice would be nice.

Budget ~$1000 CAD. OK if over a bit in price.
Looking for a gaming/work computer.

CPU: Intel i5 or i7
RAM: 8GB minimum required
Vid Card: Prefer NVIDIA
HD: 500GB is enough
+Standard DVD Drive

Don't need a monitor,keyboard,etc.

Thanks.:)

The best advice I can give: If you decide on a list of products be It i5 or i7 stick to It.
I wasted about £250 to £300 on things I didn't need, or know anything about.
Do your research about what you want It may take a little longer, but you will safe money on things you won't need.

[Vero]

Hello,

I want to get a PC, sick of my laptop.

Budget: 50,000 - 70,000 Yen (Basically 500-700 dollars)
Primary use is gaming. I don't need a hard drive as I have 4 satas.
Secondary use is for recording so I require a pretty decent sound card and firewire. (Separate to the budget listed above, just need a recommendation)

Your help would be very appreciated. :)

[Hippo]

Core i5 or cheap AMD processor (like the Athlon II X3 435).
For graphics, probably the HD 4850 or GTX260.

[backlash15]

Is there a way I can buy a usb 3.0 add on and add it onto my asus eee 1000he?

[Slickerey]

Would this make for a good budget gaming rig? :unsure:

MSI 790XT-G45 AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130265&cm_re=msi_790xt-g45-_-13-130-265-_-Product) $89.99
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277&cm_re=f3-12800cl9d-_-20-231-277-_-Product) $99.99
AMD Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition Callisto 3.2GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103846&cm_re=amd_phenom_ii-_-19-103-846-_-Product) $99.99
HIS H467QS1GH Radeon HD 4670 1GB 128-bit DDR3 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161287&cm_re=his_radeon_hd_4670-_-14-161-287-_-Product) $82.99
COOLER MASTER GX Series RS750 750W PSU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171053&Tpk=cooler%20master%20gx%20rs750) $79.99
Cooler Master HAF 932 Full Tower Case (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160&cm_re=haf_932-_-11-119-160-_-Product) $139.98

Grand Total: $592.93

I mean, I don't think it will be the greatest thing in the world, but when it comes to the price/performance ratio, I'd say that it's damn right worth it.

[7th]

Detale and others, what to do with $500/600?

A friend of mine, coming from the US, is going to bring me some hardware parts.
In brief, I need a new Mobo, processor and Memory kit and I don't have more then $600 to spend.
I'm checking prices at newegg.com

The parts I have:
- Tower Case;
- Corsair TX850W Power Supply;
- GeForce 9800GT;
- GeForce 8600GT (PhysX);
- Monitor (res:1920x1200);

Parts I want to change:
- Mobo M2N32-SLI Delux;
- AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200 (always running at stock 2.6 GHz);
- Memory: 2GB G.Skill (I never understood the timing things).

What I do:
- I play games but the config I have today is already "almost" enough for me.
- I work with Adobe appz (Illustrator, InDesign, Photoshop).
- I'm thinking about start playing with AfterEffects too.

What I prefer:
- AMD!
- I love Asus Mobos. I would go with EVGA too, but it's Intel only and I think I don't have money for that.
- I have big problems to decide between memories (timings and compatibility) but I prefer Corsair or G.Skill.

edit: well, I had just a few hours to decide and I ended up getting the following config:
- ASUS Crosshair IV Formula AM3 AMD 890FX
- AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz
- DDR3 4GB 1600MHz DUAL GT CORSAIR CMG4GX3M2A1600C7

I just have some doubts about the memories (if they will work with the mobo) and I'll be able to keep my video cards config (9800GT + 8600GT for phisyX) when the motherboard was made for crossfire config. =/

Thank you very much for your time!

[megabyteme]

Asus does not list the RAM on their qualified vendor list, but Corsair does guarantee compatibility with that combination. http://www.corsair.com/configurator/product_results.aspx?id=1575023#other_modules Make sure the timings listed match in your BIOS (update, if necessary) and you should be set.

http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=kPGmtxee5RsQVsXG&templete=2 : All available downloads.

Are you going to run 64-bit? Adobe is quickly moving all of their products in that direction- and require it for After Effects and Premier. I haven't had any trouble finding compatible apps. It was a problem a while back. Anyway, your board can handle up to 16 GB of RAM- would be a shame not to fill the spaces. :)

I believe you will be very happy with your upgrade!

[c0ld]

quicklyGet a clue "megabytebme" you are full of it.

[megabyteme]

They could have moved quicker, but why would they want to move ahead of their customer base, or write for both 32/64 bit? As it is, they are offering Photoshop in both, but the video programs have made the transition.

Anyway, you remind me of my father-in-law...willing to make an "argument" out of a single word. :rolleyes:

"Quickly" could also refer to "by the next full version release" in this case. I believe that will be Adobe does- move with their customers.


On a personal note, c0LD...don't you have a Skinhead/Klan rally to attend? :dry:

[c0ld]

could

How about Flash, which has held up the entire 64bit browser market for years? Adobe are THE worst company for 64bit software.

[megabyteme]

I know there has been a demand for 64 bit Flash, as I have seen complaints posted elsewhere. Personally, I did not make the switch until I saw that there were sufficient programs available to do what I wanted/needed to do. Was there a need or a want regarding the Adobe products? Up to Win7, and Premier/After Effects, I did not need to switch-I was curious, but decided to hold off until the programs I wanted supported 64 bit. I believe I saved myself a lot of headache by waiting.

If anything, I think the 64 bit processors came out earlier than they needed to. It seemed cool, but the cost of RAM was higher (16 GB is still quite expensive) and very few programs truly benefited from the additional (beyond 3 GB) memory.

Think of it as having a car that will do 140 MPH, but not have roadways that allow for that speed.

[c0ld]

the cost of RAM was higher (16 GB is still quite expensive)
Wth? The cost of ram is sky high compared to what is was a few years ago. What are you waffling on about?

[megabyteme]

Obviously, Adobe did not believe there was a sufficient need. If you don't agree- great. I've always been happy with their products, and they are one of the strongest software companies around. They are going to 64 bit. Maybe not fast enough for you, but it doesn't seem to have hurt them as a company.

We have seen a lot of speed improvements in RAM. Weight that into the cost. Any more than 4 GB exceeds what most consumers want to pay for- they wouldn't have seen any substantial benefits. We still don't need that for browsing... I'm sure that has weighed into Adobe's "lag time".

I've given you more attention and time than you deserve. :wave:

[c0ld]

Ah I see, these are your 'butthurt' posts are they? Just incoherent ramblings in which you repeat yourself again and again, and then you finish with a desperate one-liner quip.

Ok, I'll back off, it's the decent thing to do.

[megabyteme]

Thanks for sparin' me. Your "argument" of, "I want it now" was quite powerful. :yes:

[7th]

Thank you Mega for your help! I guess I'll be happy with the upgrade. Yes, for the first time I'll install a 64bit system but I'm not sure if I'll be buying more ram for now.

AFAIK, for what I do, 4gb is quite enough I think. I'm not going into "movies" so soon. Let me know if I'm wrong thinking this way.

@c0ld: Man, no offense but, I really like Adobe's work. 64bits or not, gosh, I can't imagine my day-to-day work without their apps. And I understand the expectation around a Flash 64bits and therefore a browser 64bits but, who's really waiting for that? And I really doubt that 2% of the worlds internet users miss a 64bits Flash simply because they don't even know what benefits that would bring!

As I'm learning AS3, I would love that, but the end user don't really care. Also, check how many end users has a 64bits OS installed. =/
Uh, I think this is not the best place to discuss this anyway.

[megabyteme]

I think you will be just fine with what you have, 7th. Keep your eyes open on Newegg for specials on matching RAM and grab more sticks when they are on sale (if you are tempted), but I had 8GB in my primary system and ended up "stealing" a stick (dropping down to 6GB) and really did not notice any significant losses. I dabble in Photoshop and re-encode an occasional file for personal use and I am quite satisfied. I use a desktop "gadget" that monitors CPU and RAM usage- rarely see either one maxed.

Ultimately, see if your upgrade is doing what you need it to do. If (and I don't expect this to be the case) something is slowing your productivity, then it could be worth upgrading. Right now, you can store nearly a full DVD-R in memory. How often do you expect to need more than that without rendering 3D, or compositing video?

Adobe products work better when the primary drive and scratch disks are on separate physical volumes. Two HDD would be good (I am not sure what you are currently using), but two separate RAIDed drives (4 drives total) would give you a significant increase in reading/writing speed. Drives have gotten quite inexpensive. I have been very happy with WD Caviar Black.

[c0ld]

goshgolly gee.

[megabyteme]

goshgolly gee.

That's your strongest "argument" to date. You little "master debater", you. :console:

[7th]

goshgolly gee.
I see you got the ideia! good boy!

@mega: 4gb will do and I'm working with 3HDs here =)
Now, when I need more space I don't by dvds, I buy HDs ;)

[c0ld]

Adobe products work better when the primary drive and scratch disks are on separate physical volumes.Srsly, if I was stupid enough to waste money on computer hardware, I'd get a small ssd for the scratch.

[megabyteme]

Adobe products work better when the primary drive and scratch disks are on separate physical volumes.Srsly, if I was stupid enough to waste money on computer hardware, I'd get a small ssd for the scratch.

You seem "intelligent" enough to buy 4GB+ for browsing. To each his own...

[dimitri10]

That is so my next build!!!

[Jalle]

Hello guys

If I would buy a SDD disk with my new computer and install windows 7 64 bit - would I be OK with a 40GB or should I buy a 80GB? The only big programs I would install would probably be Adobe Dreamweaver & Photoshop. I have a big HDD for storing my DLs.

My economy isn't that well right now...

[lorraine02]

my computer is bought in 2007, and have used for five years,
now , I have install the system windows XP, instead of the original Windows 7.

[Artemis]

my computer is bought in 2007, and have used for five years,
now , I have install the system windows XP, instead of the original Windows 7.

Windows 7 wasn't released in 2007 so that post is idiotic. If you are just going to spam this board with the same thing over and over again your stay here will be brief.

[mjmacky]

I was using Windows 7 in 2002 before it was all the rage
/hipster