Tit IRC

[Detale]

Anyone know what it is? Thanks

[thrillerboy]

theres a site named torrentit, their IRC channel i guss

[1000possibleclaws]

@Thrillerboy, I think detale already knows that :rolleyes:

support channel
irc.p2p-net.eu - port 6667 / 6697 (SSL) #TiT-Support


main irc (i think)
irc.p2p-net.eu 6667/ 6697, #TorrentIt

[iEATlilKIDS]

irc.p2p-net.eu #torrentit ssl= 6697

[Frankthetank1]

hope your not gonna rat someone out. we all know how tit doesnt like trades or give aways

[thrillerboy]

@Thrillerboy, I think detale already knows that :rolleyes:


he asked what it is.... So, I answered that, never thought past that :D

[Magnum]

@Thrillerboy, I think detale already knows that :rolleyes:

support channel
irc.p2p-net.eu - port 6667 / 6697 (SSL) #TiT-Support


main irc (i think)
irc.p2p-net.eu 6667/ 6697, #TorrentIt
#torrentit
#tit-support

irc.p2p-net.eu SSL port: 6697

[Detale]

Thanks guys. I got in and spoke with some staff there. i have to say MuddSlinger (forgive if I misspelled it) Was a gentleman and so was someone else whos name escapes me. But then out of no where I was bounced out of their IRC shortly after I was told I needed to speak with the upper level staff. So now I cant contact them. Cowardly move if you asked me. I invited them to be part of our community here and they insulted me by not even trying to listen. I would think that a site with their reputation would have more decency than that.

[sheriff 01]

Did you try the irc channel again detale?

[fatcat69]

Thanks guys. I got in and spoke with some staff there. i have to say MuddSlinger (forgive if I misspelled it) Was a gentleman and so was someone else whos name escapes me. But then out of no where I was bounced out of their IRC shortly after I was told I needed to speak with the upper level staff. So now I cant contact them. Cowardly move if you asked me. I invited them to be part of our community here and they insulted me by not even trying to listen. I would think that a site with their reputation would have more decency than that.

Muddslinger is a good guy...
;)

[Frankthetank1]

Its not the #tit of old.

This is the reason why i asked. I knew they wanted no part of FST.

[Detale]

Many sites don't want a part of FST but they handle themselves like adults, not like little children. To hear one side of the story is childish, foolsih and just rude. Now I'm not going to be equally childish and Ban all Tit Staff accts here right. No because We don't act like that. Damn fools

I just checked the IRC again and I was still Z:lined

[whip22]

Thanks guys. I got in and spoke with some staff there. i have to say MuddSlinger (forgive if I misspelled it) Was a gentleman and so was someone else whos name escapes me. But then out of no where I was bounced out of their IRC shortly after I was told I needed to speak with the upper level staff. So now I cant contact them. Cowardly move if you asked me. I invited them to be part of our community here and they insulted me by not even trying to listen. I would think that a site with their reputation would have more decency than that.

Muddslinger is a good guy...
;)
no shit =)

[Nemrod]

I don´t know what happened and I don´t care either, but it´s curious... many staffers come here, look for members to recruit, use FST for raising their sites, are very nice... and then, once they are on their way... or they think so, FST is evil and even being a member of this site is a capital sin. Thanks God those sites I really love and take care of them are leaded by people with the head on their shoulders, not in the middle of their asses.

By the way, I agree: MuddSlinger is a cool guy.

[Detale]

I don´t know what happened and I don´t care either, but it´s curious... many staffers come here, look for members to recruit, use FST for raising their sites, are very nice... and then, once they are on their way... or they think so, FST is evil and even being a member of this site is a capital sin. Thanks God those sites I really love and take care of them are leaded by people with the head on their shoulders, not in the middle of their asses.

By the way, I agree: MuddSlinger is a cool guy.

Thats a reasonable point of view but many sites are not like this most of em in fact I don't think are. I can remember in recent history of a few sites that have done this. I don't want to give the impression that site staff are asshats most of em aren't. Most of them are in fact insane though lol. This was just a fucked up way to go about it. The person that kicked me out of the IRC is a coward and a lowlife. Good luck with IRC op's like that working for you. You'll need it :dabs:

[pone44]

But thrillerboy will come here and ask for not Irc addresses but asking for PTN? :slap:
Or other things?

dunno never even tried it.... I can't get whats the fun in giving the buffered account (which we buffered carefully) to someone else and getting his buffered account... :/

Never been to tit.Not looking either. Sure it is good.

[cownoodles]

where do i apply to join muddslingers fan club ?

[integral]

You're just going to have to come to terms with the position you are in. A guy going around banning someone who is attempting to catch traders is not going to have a good look in the face of staff, and that's just a fact. Even if that's not the reason you were banned, some trackers are just going to react that way when FST is brought up.

For what it's worth, I don't think you really anything wrong. I think you and all of the mods I've seen in action do an excellent job, and make quite an effort to help this site (and subsection). Hopefully in the (near) future, majority opinions will change on FST.

[BlastGT1]

Its not the #tit of old.

This is the reason why i asked. I knew they wanted no part of FST.

Even in the old days, we didn't want any part of traders or sellers. Sadly, no one even bothers to try and get in the honest way anymore, because it's all about "me me me, what can I get for me" anymore. Sad to say that the bittorrent world has gone to total shit in 2 years.

I would have so much more respect for A.) FST Members, and B.) FST as a site, if I didn't know from personal experience that the vast majority of people who acquire accounts or invites to sites via trades/sales are either too inexperienced to handle what they're getting, or flat out do not care about the rules of the sites they are trying to get into. When you get into a site by breaking said site's rules in the first place, can you really EXPECT the staff of that site to be receptive to you, the person who hustled your way in?

Here's the deal. Yes, some sites, as previously mentioned, will use FST and other sites like it to get members, because Lord knows that as soon as you announce free leech, open signups, or anything else, every large site like FST seems to know immediately that it's in progress, and storms your gates. If they later turn on the very places that they recruited from, then I agree that's pretty two-faced and pathetic. However, a site that takes a stand in the first place is different. It is the very rules that they put in place, and the way they handle themselves as staff of each site, that determines success or failure. Can any idiot get a copy of a torrent site source and a VPS or dedicated box for a month, then ask for donations? Yes, of course they can! But can any idiot spend quality time designing, implementing, and maintaining a top-tier site, the kind you'd kill to have a membership on? Hell no! So why the hell would you disregard their rules and try to get in via a proverbial back door?

Stop and think beyond just your OWN immediate desires and wants. By circumventing rules and regulations, you destroy something intended to be good, both for and to you. How many users actually give a damn about community? I'd say about 5% if you're really lucky. Look around here, I guarantee you'll find that the vast majority of users here only post when they want something, or try to deal behind the scenes. And we do know about the super-secret hidden trader sections. There isn't a damn thing we can't or won't know about, sooner or later. And you never know WHO you can or can't trust.

Bottom line: We wouldn't give a damn about any of you getting in if we knew you could be trusted, on the whole, to abide by the rules we set out for you, to maintain the integrity of our sites. But when you're breaking the rules BEFORE you even become a member, tell me how that should innspire us to have confidence in you as a member?

Detale: I don't know who banned you from the IRC server, but yes, they could have handled that differently. Your Z-Line didn't come as a request from me. FYI: People's opinions of you can be influenced by the company you keep. Even if you "keep your nose clean" as they say, by hanging around with snot, you too can (and will) appear in need of cleaning. It's well-known that many FST staffers, former and current, are deep into the trading scene, and don't hesitate to break sites' rules for their own gain. I also know personally that your leader here (who it wouldn't surprise me if he banned me after this post, which would be typical), has a reputation for wanting to "cooperate" with torrent sites on enforcing their rules, yet gives little or nothing to those sites in return for their concessions, essentially lying to their face while stabbing them in the back. I've dealt with him myself when I was a member of TPG Staff, and I speak from firsthand experience. And yes, his name is RealitY, and we'll see if he gives me the boot, and perhaps deletes/edits my post as well.

We don't trust anyone who shows themselves untrustworthy, whether by association or by action. By "we" I mean the collective of torrent site staffers, at least most of us. We put a LOT of time into doing what we do, none of it paid (except for the sites that seem to have ridiculously high bills everymonth and spam your inbox every WEEK with donation nagging), and we don't appreciate seeing floods of people come in whose only care or concern is "gimme gimme gimme, now now now!"

I sincerely hope that some people here read this, and actually take it to heart. They say good things come to those who wait, and I can guarantee you that people who come to TiT's IRC, actually invest time interacting with members in the channel, and make themselves available to others as far as letting them get to know you, will get invites a whole lot easier than the people hiding in the Private Message halls of FST or like sites, making back room deals in the dark. Do you want to work hard for an account or invite that could end up earning you a ban or several, or do you think it's worth investing a little time to actually be a part of the human side of torrenting to get where you want to be? You can be honest, come into our IRC and say "I'm not a member, but I hope to be one day," and from there actually get to know a few people, have a little fun. I've seen it happen where someone actually gets an invite within minutes of showing up, just because they actually went that extra distance to show they were interested in more than just a torrent fix. But if you disappear from IRC like a hot potato out of someone's hands as soon as you nab that invite, it won't take long to have you watched like a hawk for eventual plank-walking if you so much as sneeze wrong.

We do our damndest to be about community at TiT, because that was what made it strong in the past. There IS more to torrenting that JUT what you can download today or tomorrow, people. Some have the foolish opinion that the internet is useless for friends and interaction. How wrong they are, because you can make friends who are as close as blood. I've even managed to meet people who are fellow torrenters by being active within communities. It's really not as hard as you think to go about it the honest way........you just have to be sincere, MEAN what you say and do, because it's easy to figure out who was faking. Personally, I wouldn't mind having all of you on TiT, if I could know that you'd be as honest in your dealings there as I am being in my dealings here. I sure hope some of you read this message, and begin to prove me wrong in my opinions and perceptions, that people in a forum like this truly CAN respect site rules while frequenting a site such as FST.

[iEATlilKIDS]

still it waoulda been a nice and pleasnt thing to have a converstion with ppl who can manup and confront ya head up with thyre grievances before kicking ya out of irc lets say

[sheriff 01]

Its not the #tit of old.

This is the reason why i asked. I knew they wanted no part of FST.

Even in the old days, we didn't want any part of traders or sellers. Sadly, no one even bothers to try and get in the honest way anymore, because it's all about "me me me, what can I get for me" anymore. Sad to say that the bittorrent world has gone to total shit in 2 years.

I would have so much more respect for A.) FST Members, and B.) FST as a site, if I didn't know from personal experience that the vast majority of people who acquire accounts or invites to sites via trades/sales are either too inexperienced to handle what they're getting, or flat out do not care about the rules of the sites they are trying to get into. When you get into a site by breaking said site's rules in the first place, can you really EXPECT the staff of that site to be receptive to you, the person who hustled your way in?

Here's the deal. Yes, some sites, as previously mentioned, will use FST and other sites like it to get members, because Lord knows that as soon as you announce free leech, open signups, or anything else, every large site like FST seems to know immediately that it's in progress, and storms your gates. If they later turn on the very places that they recruited from, then I agree that's pretty two-faced and pathetic. However, a site that takes a stand in the first place is different. It is the very rules that they put in place, and the way they handle themselves as staff of each site, that determines success or failure. Can any idiot get a copy of a torrent site source and a VPS or dedicated box for a month, then ask for donations? Yes, of course they can! But can any idiot spend quality time designing, implementing, and maintaining a top-tier site, the kind you'd kill to have a membership on? Hell no! So why the hell would you disregard their rules and try to get in via a proverbial back door?

Stop and think beyond just your OWN immediate desires and wants. By circumventing rules and regulations, you destroy something intended to be good, both for and to you. How many users actually give a damn about community? I'd say about 5% if you're really lucky. Look around here, I guarantee you'll find that the vast majority of users here only post when they want something, or try to deal behind the scenes. And we do know about the super-secret hidden trader sections. There isn't a damn thing we can't or won't know about, sooner or later. And you never know WHO you can or can't trust.

Bottom line: We wouldn't give a damn about any of you getting in if we knew you could be trusted, on the whole, to abide by the rules we set out for you, to maintain the integrity of our sites. But when you're breaking the rules BEFORE you even become a member, tell me how that should innspire us to have confidence in you as a member?

Detale: I don't know who banned you from the IRC server, but yes, they could have handled that differently. Your Z-Line didn't come as a request from me. FYI: People's opinions of you can be influenced by the company you keep. Even if you "keep your nose clean" as they say, by hanging around with snot, you too can (and will) appear in need of cleaning. It's well-known that many FST staffers, former and current, are deep into the trading scene, and don't hesitate to break sites' rules for their own gain. I also know personally that your leader here (who it wouldn't surprise me if he banned me after this post, which would be typical), has a reputation for wanting to "cooperate" with torrent sites on enforcing their rules, yet gives little or nothing to those sites in return for their concessions, essentially lying to their face while stabbing them in the back. I've dealt with him myself when I was a member of TPG Staff, and I speak from firsthand experience. And yes, his name is RealitY, and we'll see if he gives me the boot, and perhaps deletes/edits my post as well.

We don't trust anyone who shows themselves untrustworthy, whether by association or by action. By "we" I mean the collective of torrent site staffers, at least most of us. We put a LOT of time into doing what we do, none of it paid (except for the sites that seem to have ridiculously high bills everymonth and spam your inbox every WEEK with donation nagging), and we don't appreciate seeing floods of people come in whose only care or concern is "gimme gimme gimme, now now now!"

I sincerely hope that some people here read this, and actually take it to heart. They say good things come to those who wait, and I can guarantee you that people who come to TiT's IRC, actually invest time interacting with members in the channel, and make themselves available to others as far as letting them get to know you, will get invites a whole lot easier than the people hiding in the Private Message halls of FST or like sites, making back room deals in the dark. Do you want to work hard for an account or invite that could end up earning you a ban or several, or do you think it's worth investing a little time to actually be a part of the human side of torrenting to get where you want to be? You can be honest, come into our IRC and say "I'm not a member, but I hope to be one day," and from there actually get to know a few people, have a little fun. I've seen it happen where someone actually gets an invite within minutes of showing up, just because they actually went that extra distance to show they were interested in more than just a torrent fix. But if you disappear from IRC like a hot potato out of someone's hands as soon as you nab that invite, it won't take long to have you watched like a hawk for eventual plank-walking if you so much as sneeze wrong.

We do our damndest to be about community at TiT, because that was what made it strong in the past. There IS more to torrenting that JUT what you can download today or tomorrow, people. Some have the foolish opinion that the internet is useless for friends and interaction. How wrong they are, because you can make friends who are as close as blood. I've even managed to meet people who are fellow torrenters by being active within communities. It's really not as hard as you think to go about it the honest way........you just have to be sincere, MEAN what you say and do, because it's easy to figure out who was faking. Personally, I wouldn't mind having all of you on TiT, if I could know that you'd be as honest in your dealings there as I am being in my dealings here. I sure hope some of you read this message, and begin to prove me wrong in my opinions and perceptions, that people in a forum like this truly CAN respect site rules while frequenting a site such as FST.

Maybe fellow bit-torrenters and community socialists would actually respect your community a little bit more if you weren't so harsh with the vast members that you have dealt with in past situations. Respect is earned and when you operate with total lack of regard for members best interests you only jeopardize your main goal of achieving a site well worth being a member at.

[nobody]

TiT is really ok never had a problem with them

[Frankthetank1]

The staff seems like they have a chip on their shoulders. If i remember correctly the reason the torrent community has gone down hill had much to do with tit and their staff. Their is a reason you get fook all p2p lamers in the nfo's.

[cownoodles]

respect is indeed earned

some trackers wish to remain out of the public eye. theyre all over this site.
some trackers dont like trading, guess what.
some trackers dislike public giveaways.. what do you know.

and WE are harsh ? I wonder why.

this sites existance, proves the utter lack of espect with wich all trackers are treated.
the fact that we exist gives you no right what so ever to enter, contrary to your own beleifs.
once you realise that, and get over that deluded opinion, then many more trackers might just start to take FST and its people a little more seriously.

we didnt hear him out.. ok not my choice. i was waiting for an answer to a question i posed to him when he got booted. (you do decide who enters your own house right? and what rules are theyre behaviour governed by whilst in your house.. your rules or theyres ? )

how many times have FST been asked to stop plastering sites adresses/full names etc, all over the net?

and they are still here, i cannot understand you lot. you can see with your own eyes that there is no half way point here, you do as you please, and blame your victims when they strike out.

it worries me to be honest. "she had it comming, she was wearing a short skirt" same excuse your using here. wanting something gives you no right to it. the fact something is there to be taken, doesnt give you a gods given right to take it.

im sure that a lot of ppl here are just hoping to get in on something many of us have enjoyed for years. unfortunatly the vocal minority will hold everyone else back. that is a real shame.

takes ten seconds to delete a thread mentioning a tracker that wants no mention made of it in public

takes us weeks to clean up after open invites, public giveaways. we wont ever be able to stop doing that.

if someone is going to make the first step, its going to have to start here, and i dont beleive it ever will.

but good luck changing things over time Detale, you would earn my respect if you ever managed it, i will even appologise for not beleiving you.

and while we are not unreasonable. some things cause to much work to be worth the effort. this place is one of them.
you know we dont want public giveaways and trades, they are here to be seen by all.
so remind me how were the bad guys for treating you, the same way you treat us (with utter contempt) and how much of a problem is the loss of one tracker anyway ?

be little more than a moments inconvinience compared to the damage this place does to so many trackers.

how do you all behave when you enter someone elses home ? do you even knock, the fact there is a building means you can break in? its there so its yours ?

change that attitude, and we might just change ours.
but so few ppl can even grasp that much unfortunatly. instead inventing hilarious replies like the one above my post.

we all started out somewhere, and i never traded, begged, stole, bought an invite, anywhere.
just took a little effort. and a good (far as i know) standing in the community.

some trackers just dont want a part of it, theyre ignored, kinda like some ppl wouldnt welcome you into theyre homes.
i hope that way of thinking doesnt carry over into real life, or if it does, you hail from a country with armed residents.

beleive it or not we can be quite reasonable. but when the same rules are broken over and over, we have to act. and beleive me, id rather be saying welcome, than dealing with bloody cheats and morons. unfortunatly that is life these days, for every moments joy, there are 5 hours of tedious work. cleaning up after yet another person who couldnt simply follow a few rules. and we are all to well aware of the fact, that some of them are indeed our own members. but they get banned too.

[Frankthetank1]

They sure are all high and mighty, especially since they screwed the entire bittorrent community. As far as i am concerned they should be black listed. Tit will never be the tit of old or even come close.

[sheriff 01]

cownoodles there is no amount of explaining that you or any staff member at your site for that matter could do to get you out of the hole that you guys have dug for yourselves. i will not get into details right now but i know for a fact that many members from there have been disrespected and shit on there by the staff. I agree with you there is rules set forth everywhere but when a site makes decisions in haste with no real evidence that is utter bullshit and know way to run a site period!
Instead of crying about how FST has treated you why don't you look at the real problems at hand and stop pointing the finger at everyone else blaming them for your problems.

[Something Else]

Anyone know what it is? Thanks


theres a site named torrentit, their IRC channel i guss

The only person that answered the actual question. Well done to you sir. :smilie4:

[Detale]

You're just going to have to come to terms with the position you are in. A guy going around banning someone who is attempting to catch traders is not going to have a good look in the face of staff, and that's just a fact. Even if that's not the reason you were banned, some trackers are just going to react that way when FST is brought up.

For what it's worth, I don't think you really anything wrong. I think you and all of the mods I've seen in action do an excellent job, and make quite an effort to help this site (and subsection). Hopefully in the (near) future, majority opinions will change on FST.

I fully appreciate the position I'm in. I don't spend my days "going around" trying to ban members. I'm pretty sure I'm one of the more easy going mods here. I'll say this again because I guess you missed it. This is the reason I was banned,or at least the reason I was given. I gave the guy 3 chances to cease and desist. If you get a letter from your ISP wouldn't you stop? or would you keep going and when they ban you be pissed at them? I'm not even that mad at the actual ban more so the way it was handled.

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Hello Blast,

I appreciate you taking the time to address this here, I wanted to handle this privately but I was left with no choice. With all due respect I am going to call Bullshit on much of your post. This is a way out dated point of view and I invite you to make more that 5 posts in 2 years and try and see things the way they are "these days" as this is not the "old days" anymore.

I will give you that the BT community as a whole IMO has gone down hill in recent months but as this is your community too it's ALL of our responsibility to try and clean it up don't you think? Not by policing any harder but through education and guidance as that's what I see has gone wrong around here. I feel it's not the new members but the veterans who have "given up" on the community aspect of things and don't teach the next generation of BT users the proper way of things. They stay in their little click and keep uber secret circles to themselves and post things like " STFU no0b" . We have all the new people believing that they have to trade to get into sites. Some sites don't exactly go out of their way to express their point of view much they simply bitch and ban.

You know from personal experience what?? Again you have 5 posts in 2 years man so how recent are your experiences here? Again I invite you to stay and put your finger on the pulse for a while.

You say that "some sites" will use FST guess what, TIT DID THE SAME THING (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bittorrent-43/t-torrentit-296912/?&highlight=TorrentiT) so basically you're saying Tit is "two-faced and pathetic" they didn't "take a stand in the first place". I wouldn't go so far as to say these things but you just did.

Here's the thing, I see sites that do this sure, sites like PTN but guess what they don't discriminate they take people for their own merit and don't call FST bullshit names and make mass judgments. Guilt by association is bullshit too. Can you honestly say you have never had someone in the BT world fuck you in some way, or let you down? At some point we all put our faith in the wrong person and get scorned by them. It just happens sometimes, way of the world I guess I don't know.

I do applaud you on a well done secure site, good for you. I know the time and energy it takes is immense. I also appreciate you explaining your point of view like this it is well said and we need more posts like these so the no0bish can learn, it's a shame it's wasted in this thread. You may have gotten further if it was a thread addressed to the masses by itself so if you care about community as you say you do this may be something you look into in the near future

5% of users not caring is Bullshit as well. Since you haven't done any kind of study or experiment on it you cannot call a number like 5% out and expect it to be believable. If 5% were nearly true sites like SCT,FTN, FSC would fail in their communities because their numbers would be the same as yours. The happen to have excellent communities BTW. I do know of a site that has done a recent experiment on something like this and I think the number was much higher. I'm not going to get them involved here also. No need.

My Bottom Line: Some members here suck, surely. But many many of them are good users and community members of not only your, but many other sites as well, so again I call Bullshit.

On to me
Thanks for at least saying this could have been handled differently, that gives me some faith in your sensibilities. Too often many site staffers get a kind of god complex and it ruins things just as much as trading does if not more.

I am well aware of how peoples opinion may be formed but they should be formed on the individual not some bullshit code of the company you keep. Obama hung out with a racist does this mean he's a racist as well? No he's president now. This is what I was trtying to do with Tit. Give them a chance to know me a bit better and explain my case.
I don't have to keep my "nose clean" I'v done nothing wrong, the fact that you think I have is an insult.

"Well known" that FST staff currently are involved in trading?? Not only has this been disproved but is the biggest BULLSHIT yet. Where do you get your information from? Are you somehow trying to discredit me or FST by simply saying the staff here trad? AFAIK all of us here are on to NZB's and have all the accts we need/want. I keep many acct open to contact staff when I need to or to post in the forums. For you to say we would trade for an acct is absurd and insulting, so insulting I'm going to say fuck you!. To make claims like this with nothing to back it up is irresponsible and libelous bullshit.

Once again what does this have to do with me? I did trade when I first came here I have never said otherwise but this was years ago and someone took the time to coach me on the right way and I have benifitted from it ever since.

Now you say that you do your damnedest to be about community? Maybe you are speaking about the Tit community, but surely you couldn't mean the BT community as a whole. FST is part of the BT community like it or not, if you see somethings here you don't like become active and see if you can make some changes here through guidance and education before passing a whim of a judgment on out community here.

What happened before I was staff here is not my concern as I wasn't here yet. Sorry you and Reality had a discrepancy, I know nothing of that and it's not my business. I doubt very much he would delete or edit your post as I know him to be bigger than that, he will most likely deal with you in private about that.

Hopefully YOU take this to heart and see that in order to form an opinion about anything you need to experience it first hand not only what you may have heard. Also much of your well written post is about traders and bad members, a narrow minded and small part of FST. Hopefully you and Tit can be bigger than these small issues and see the bigger picture here. So you are going to actively ban FST staff while we will not ban you? What does that say about our two sites? To me it would say the site you despise has more respect for people that the site you love. Ass backward view of thinking I think or in other words BULLSHIT!

[Albo Da Kid]

I don't think you wanted to handle this "privately" Detale because if that was the case you would ask one of your mod friends to give you the TiT irc and not make a thread asking about it.

You were trying to trigger something from the beginning.

[Funkin']

It looks to me like the TiT staff take "torrenting" and the internet in general way too seriously.

[respawn40]

seriously.

http://ramblingrhodes.mu.nu/archives/normal_Internet-SeriousBusiness.jpg

That's how you're supposed to do it, Funkin.

[Funkin']

My bad than. I was unaware.

[Nemrod]

@Detale: Sorry for giving my opinion when not requested and perhaps offtopic, but there´s a part of your last post that I think needs some deeper consideration.
You say that old Btorrenters gave up or are too busy in their bubbles and don´t teach new ones.
I am in this world since its beginning, I won´t say I am an exemplary user but I do my best and try to follow my sites rules, if I can´t at any given site I simply drop that site. I began to be active here at FST (language was and still is an issue for me), and I must say that every day I am less disposed to give advices and to try to give something of my experience, here at least.
Why?, let´s be honest, you FST staffers are not doing all you can, and in my opinion, should, for keeping this site between acceptable levels of cleaning.
Here, some users are in many cases the advisers, the guardians, not you. It´s like the old days when authorities were useless and people had to defend themselves with vigilantes.
It´s well known that there are a lot of members with several accounts... why is that allowed?, it´s well known that several members who have had a bad behavior and are a liability for Bt community are safe here. I see every other day new users joining this site and under a lamb skin ask for help and advice, three days later you find out that they have more miles in this road than a 57 Chevy. As long as those things are right under your noses and you do nothing, or not enough, you can´t expect to be respected.
I said many times that FST is a micro-cosmos, let´s say it´s like New York, this is so damn big that you can find everything, from the best to the worst passing by the absolutely beauty but useless, and at that point is when authorities make the difference.
Compared to other sites this is still decent, but it´s degrading very fast, I know that some wrong practices won´t ever be eliminated, and I know also that FST is a place that contributes to put some order into chaos, so we could say that in some way FST contributes with Sharing Community, but I am absolutely convinced that you can do much much more without selling your souls to site owners desires. A good and deep cleanup would be a wonderful start point.
I do love FST, I owe this site a lot of good things and only want its best but, maybe I am wrong, to my eyes this site is drowning itself in deep shit (at least BT section, the biggest btw), mainly due to a big lack of maintenance.

[Detale]

I don't think you wanted to handle this "privately" Detale because if that was the case you would ask one of your mod friends to give you the TiT irc and not make a thread asking about it.

You were trying to trigger something from the beginning.

Was I now? So what I am not allowed to use the forum for help like everyone else? I have 3 small kids and so my time on the computer is limited these days. I needed to handle it when I had time, none of my "mod" friends were on line then so I figured I'd ask here. True story. Don't you get that I'm trying to help you, the members here? Whats your grudge?

@Tit Staff why not let me back in the IRC so we can continue this there?


@Detale: Sorry for giving my opinion when not requested and perhaps offtopic, but there´s a part of your last post that I think needs some deeper consideration.
You say that old Btorrenters gave up or are too busy in their bubbles and don´t teach new ones.
I am in this world since its beginning, I won´t say I am an exemplary user but I do my best and try to follow my sites rules, if I can´t at any given site I simply drop that site. I began to be active here at FST (language was and still is an issue for me), and I must say that every day I am less disposed to give advices and to try to give something of my experience, here at least.
Why?, let´s be honest, you FST staffers are not doing all you can, and in my opinion, should, for keeping this site between acceptable levels of cleaning.
Here, some users are in many cases the advisers, the guardians, not you. It´s like the old days when authorities were useless and people had to defend themselves with vigilantes.
It´s well known that there are a lot of members with several accounts... why is that allowed?, it´s well known that several members who have had a bad behavior and are a liability for Bt community are safe here. I see every other day new users joining this site and under a lamb skin ask for help and advice, three days later you find out that they have more miles in this road than a 57 Chevy. As long as those things are right under your noses and you do nothing, or not enough, you can´t expect to be respected.
I said many times that FST is a micro-cosmos, let´s say it´s like New York, this is so damn big that you can find everything, from the best to the worst passing by the absolutely beauty but useless, and at that point is when authorities make the difference.
Compared to other sites this is still decent, but it´s degrading very fast, I know that some wrong practices won´t ever be eliminated, and I know also that FST is a place that contributes to put some order into chaos, so we could say that in some way FST contributes with Sharing Community, but I am absolutely convinced that you can do much much more without selling your souls to site owners desires. A good and deep cleanup would be a wonderful start point.
I do love FST, I owe this site a lot of good things and only want its best but, maybe I am wrong, to my eyes this site is drowning itself in deep shit (at least BT section, the biggest btw), mainly due to a big lack of maintenance.

Your opinion is always welcome with me. You say we aren't doing all we can do, well I think we are giving it our best shot. We are real people with real lives and real problems just like you. Instead of complaining about what we aren't doing why not PM me or get me on MSN and tell me what your suggestions are. Start a thread, get involved, bring something to the table instead of complaining about how things are. What would you like to see here? Poll the members ask them. How do you suggest we do a "clean up"? Become a leader not a complainer man.

[aysomc]

well he isnt staff here... and you are. so its your responsibility to be the leader if you give a fuck, and if you dont care or dont have enough time then leave and let someone who does have the time do the job so its done correctly.

do you see the staff at the better torrent sites sitting around doing nothing or are they constantly involved and leading by example? i realize this isnt a torrent site but the same basic principles apply.

and if this is truly your guys "best shot" then im sorry but your best isnt good enough. maybe not enough time or maybe you just dont care, either way im sure there's some eager and active people here who would bust their balls trying instead of making excuses. and just to be clear im NOT one of those people but i realize that i dont have the time so i stay away from leadership roles and if not having enough time was a new thing, i would do the correct thing and step down.

[stoi]

wow some thread this is lol

i am going to try to keep this short and sweet, as it is 6am and i have not been to bed yet.

I am a CR, now one of the perks of that is that members cannot trade accounts for my tracker (this is not the reason i took CR btw, but it is one of the perks we get), But i have no clue what goes on in these hidden trading sections of FST. Now i have faith in everybody, until they screw me over, so i hope the same rule applies in there as it does in every section, and i do hope its not just blind faith.

Do not worry i wont take somebody elses word if they said they did, i would expect the staff from here own up if they did, but its my fault as i have never asked lol

Are BCG accounts traded in these secret sections?

there you go i just have, and please, the truth.

Ok now that is out of the way, how could you make this place better, well for a start usually when i report a thread, it does get dealt with very quickly, but there was 1 the other month that took 8 hours to get done. so you could be more on the ball with that side.

You could also make a sticky in the trading section, explaining to the noobs, why trading is not the way to go about it, and suggest other ways to them, not an anti-trading thread, just another thread with a different point of view, and take some of blasts post and stick it in there.

I am not going to take sides here, I do not know Tit, I am not a member, but both sides have very good points. But this, why should we do what the trackers want pisses me off somewhat, its not doing what we want, its working together to solve our differences, now i know we can never solve 100% of them, but even 10% would be a start, instead of all this trackers Vs FST bullshit i keep hearing about.

I quite like this place, I quite like most members and staff from here, maybe i am stupid as some tracker staff seem to think lol or maybe like i said before, i just have to much faith in people for my own good, but i am also one of these people that if a tracker says jump, I do not reply with how high.

I will do it my way, if others dont like it, I dont really give a toss, just like they can do it their way, its their site, their rules, not everyone will agree with them, same as on BCG but someone has to make them, and like the saying goes, you cant please all the people all of the time, its impossible.

anyway will cut off there lol i said short and sweet and it was anything but, oh well, wou should all know me by now.

[apextwin146]

respect is indeed earned

some trackers wish to remain out of the public eye. theyre all over this site.
some trackers dont like trading, guess what.
some trackers dislike public giveaways.. what do you know.

and WE are harsh ? I wonder why.

this sites existance, proves the utter lack of espect with wich all trackers are treated.
the fact that we exist gives you no right what so ever to enter, contrary to your own beleifs.
once you realise that, and get over that deluded opinion, then many more trackers might just start to take FST and its people a little more seriously.

we didnt hear him out.. ok not my choice. i was waiting for an answer to a question i posed to him when he got booted. (you do decide who enters your own house right? and what rules are theyre behaviour governed by whilst in your house.. your rules or theyres ? )

how many times have FST been asked to stop plastering sites adresses/full names etc, all over the net?

and they are still here, i cannot understand you lot. you can see with your own eyes that there is no half way point here, you do as you please, and blame your victims when they strike out.

it worries me to be honest. "she had it comming, she was wearing a short skirt" same excuse your using here. wanting something gives you no right to it. the fact something is there to be taken, doesnt give you a gods given right to take it.

im sure that a lot of ppl here are just hoping to get in on something many of us have enjoyed for years. unfortunatly the vocal minority will hold everyone else back. that is a real shame.

takes ten seconds to delete a thread mentioning a tracker that wants no mention made of it in public

takes us weeks to clean up after open invites, public giveaways. we wont ever be able to stop doing that.

if someone is going to make the first step, its going to have to start here, and i dont beleive it ever will.

but good luck changing things over time Detale, you would earn my respect if you ever managed it, i will even appologise for not beleiving you.

and while we are not unreasonable. some things cause to much work to be worth the effort. this place is one of them.
you know we dont want public giveaways and trades, they are here to be seen by all.
so remind me how were the bad guys for treating you, the same way you treat us (with utter contempt) and how much of a problem is the loss of one tracker anyway ?

be little more than a moments inconvinience compared to the damage this place does to so many trackers.

how do you all behave when you enter someone elses home ? do you even knock, the fact there is a building means you can break in? its there so its yours ?

change that attitude, and we might just change ours.
but so few ppl can even grasp that much unfortunatly. instead inventing hilarious replies like the one above my post.

we all started out somewhere, and i never traded, begged, stole, bought an invite, anywhere.
just took a little effort. and a good (far as i know) standing in the community.

some trackers just dont want a part of it, theyre ignored, kinda like some ppl wouldnt welcome you into theyre homes.
i hope that way of thinking doesnt carry over into real life, or if it does, you hail from a country with armed residents.

beleive it or not we can be quite reasonable. but when the same rules are broken over and over, we have to act. and beleive me, id rather be saying welcome, than dealing with bloody cheats and morons. unfortunatly that is life these days, for every moments joy, there are 5 hours of tedious work. cleaning up after yet another person who couldnt simply follow a few rules. and we are all to well aware of the fact, that some of them are indeed our own members. but they get banned too.
TiT - closed private community
FST - open public forum - Its like a Glass house with no doors and no security guards .. Anyone can come in and do what thay feel like within some restrictions ..
Like you have your own rules FSt is also governed by its own rules .. you cant come into somebody elses house and tell them to change their rules can you?
Try opening up ur community and see the shit that spews up in there ..
I for one like the freedom i get here and hence like the place a lot and the same cannot be said abt other tracker forums ..
We all knw the % of staff that actually take out time and explain to users new or old what they have done and what is right or wrong .. Atleast here there is a formal report section in which things are heard in a unbiased way instead of just kick banning ppl which most of the Staff do anyways ..
there are only three mods here which come from different time zones .. You can t expect them to be here online the whole day refreshing the BT section just to chk if some sites URL was freaking leaked .. You cant restrict the members from posting stuff here and then police them around .. If u dont want ur Sites URL to be leaked then make sure you take in only trusted members that wont do such a thing .. Is that expecting too much!!(If u say yes then imagine how many ppl need to be screened here) ..
there is a certain privacy here that we are entitled to hence the MODS do not chk each and every PM we send .. Its imposssible to control the trades that go on in here through the PMs unless staff decides to read each and every PM ..
FST is what it is and sure there is a room for improvement but then the real question is that are the members ready to help the staff to improve this place(if asked).. Can they take out time to do ?
FSt is just a platform for interaction in the end ..

[Detale]

well he isnt staff here... and you are. so its your responsibility to be the leader if you give a fuck, and if you dont care or dont have enough time then leave and let someone who does have the time do the job so its done correctly.

do you see the staff at the better torrent sites sitting around doing nothing or are they constantly involved and leading by example? i realize this isnt a torrent site but the same basic principles apply.

and if this is truly your guys "best shot" then im sorry but your best isnt good enough. maybe not enough time or maybe you just dont care, either way im sure there's some eager and active people here who would bust their balls trying instead of making excuses. and just to be clear im NOT one of those people but i realize that i dont have the time so i stay away from leadership roles and if not having enough time was a new thing, i would do the correct thing and step down.

Alot of words, yet nothing constructive. What are you saying we're doing wrong? What is it we need to do more of? What?? WHen I said my time is limited I meant I spend all my time here.





wow some thread this is lol

i am going to try to keep this short and sweet, as it is 6am and i have not been to bed yet.

I am a CR, now one of the perks of that is that members cannot trade accounts for my tracker (this is not the reason i took CR btw, but it is one of the perks we get), But i have no clue what goes on in these hidden trading sections of FST. Now i have faith in everybody, until they screw me over, so i hope the same rule applies in there as it does in every section, and i do hope its not just blind faith.

Do not worry i wont take somebody elses word if they said they did, i would expect the staff from here own up if they did, but its my fault as i have never asked lol

Are BCG accounts traded in these secret sections?

there you go i just have, and please, the truth.

Ok now that is out of the way, how could you make this place better, well for a start usually when i report a thread, it does get dealt with very quickly, but there was 1 the other month that took 8 hours to get done. so you could be more on the ball with that side.

You could also make a sticky in the trading section, explaining to the noobs, why trading is not the way to go about it, and suggest other ways to them, not an anti-trading thread, just another thread with a different point of view, and take some of blasts post and stick it in there.

I am not going to take sides here, I do not know Tit, I am not a member, but both sides have very good points. But this, why should we do what the trackers want pisses me off somewhat, its not doing what we want, its working together to solve our differences, now i know we can never solve 100% of them, but even 10% would be a start, instead of all this trackers Vs FST bullshit i keep hearing about.

I quite like this place, I quite like most members and staff from here, maybe i am stupid as some tracker staff seem to think lol or maybe like i said before, i just have to much faith in people for my own good, but i am also one of these people that if a tracker says jump, I do not reply with how high.

I will do it my way, if others dont like it, I dont really give a toss, just like they can do it their way, its their site, their rules, not everyone will agree with them, same as on BCG but someone has to make them, and like the saying goes, you cant please all the people all of the time, its impossible.

anyway will cut off there lol i said short and sweet and it was anything but, oh well, wou should all know me by now.

Stoi you are one of the most fair and level headed guys I know. AFAIK I don't even have a BCG acct but you have always been a good guy. I can say that once in a while I will see a BCG acct up for trade I will then delete it and give the member and infraction and shown the accts not to be traded thread, if he does it again he's Dp'd. The sticky thing is a really good idea Im going to work on that. the 8 hour thing :idunno: I guess no one was on line, sorry.

[Cabalo]

The way i see it, is that people must realize that a place like FST would always need to exist. If All the events that people related before didn't take place here, then for sure someone would go and create a forum just like this.

The fact is that this is internet. And internet is information. So, trying to keep something secret on the internet, is a dantesque task.

and we come to the point where FST is necessary. A forum, open minded as this is, is absolutely necessary to join all the users out there. This is a place for information, that's what it is. but it also provides some adicional services, and those are the controversial ones.

1. i know i will be crucified for saying this, but hiding a tracker's URL as this forum does, is considered censorship. It should be allowed to write them here, period.

now, i do totally understand that FST does this to try to create a better atmosphere with trackers, but they must understand that they are very lucky if a site decides to HELP them and censor their URL. It's just because this is a public forum, and if it wasn't done here, it would be somewhere else. but FST shows a lot of goodwill by doing that.

2. trading. whether we like it or not, it must happen here. FST is a forum, not an extent of the trackers' rules. the day FST goes down that road, it's the beggining of their end.

3. dupe acc/scammers/cheaters. I appreciate posting here and knowing (or supposing) that my IP won't be snitched to any tracker staff kiddie. I totally support the idea that IPs here are not to be handled outside.
But i do support an iron hand on people caught here scamming or exposed as cheaters, going so far as handling their IPs to a shitlist. available to community reps only.

i think that the url filtering, plus an effective iron-hand policy against cheaters/scammers/dupe accounts, would make this forum much more attractive to trackers, and wouldn't be compromising FST's image as an independent forum.

the climate of suspicion that is lived here is becoming unbearable. and i think that is what creates 90% of the harsh replies we read around here everyday (guilty as charged here).
maybe more staff could help, maybe a slight change in rules could help, maybe it would be possible to make tracker's understand that a site like FST will always have to exist.

maybe maybe maybe.................... another post for you guys to poop on.

[cownoodles]

2. trading. whether we like it or not, it must happen here. FST is a forum, not an extent of the trackers' rules. the day FST goes down that road, it's the beggining of their end.

Not so sure it would be the end, why would it ?
Could it not also be a new start ?
a combined effort, does not mean the end of the road.

Cencorship is required everywhere, like it or loath it.
if some perv posts something disturbing like an image or video, and i delete it that is cencorship, its something that cannot be simply moulded to fit your personnal moral outlook. it has to meet a common middle ground of what everyone, finds acceptable.
FST will say, those are OUR rules! live by them.
trackers will say well OUR rules are different so we wont.
untill there is a common acceptance of those rules, a middle ground it will be an endless merry go round.

you know there is a similar site to this one, that has tracker backing right ?
it can work.

[cinephilia]

I add that FST without Skizo would be nice.

[Nemrod]

1. i know i will be crucified for saying this, but hiding a tracker's URL as this forum does, is considered censorship. It should be allowed to write them here, period.



I can´t agree with you this time, my friend.
As a matter of fact I think none tracker address should be allowed here. None at all.
Trackers address are useful only for one thing: to login into the site, if you are not a member why do you have to know it?. If it happens you are invited you´ll receive all needed directions. What do you do with an address of a site and you can´t log in?, you can do the dumbass sitting in front your PC looking a static page or you can try to do something that is not good. There is no other reasonable explanation.

We are forgetting something here: what we are doing when torrenting it´s illegal, like it or not. Trackers are targets. There are thousands of guys trying to screw up this whole thing... organizations, lawyers firms, federal institutions, even the Scene, our enemies are counted by thousands. FST is like paradise for them, here they can find whatever they want... what trackers have more users, what trackers have more releases and what trackers have this or that last release faster. They even can, without effort, get an invite here in many cases.

I know that googleing a little you can find any address, in the case that search is not with good intentions the guy will find it, of course, but not because you gave it to him, there is a difference, don´t you think?.

Besides, I believe in privacy, even on the internet, if a site wants to stay under the radar and they don´t do anything for publicing the site, why should somebody try to break that wish and calling undesired attention? Who gives you the right to invade others private space without consent?.


Security is, or should be, something very important to all of us, even in the smaller details.

Acronyms make sense, are used for some reason, that should be the only allowed here.

[Detale]

1. i know i will be crucified for saying this, but hiding a tracker's URL as this forum does, is considered censorship. It should be allowed to write them here, period.



I can´t agree with you this time, my friend.
As a matter of fact I think none tracker address should be allowed here. None at all.
Trackers address are useful only for one thing: to login into the site, if you are not a member why do you have to know it?. If it happens you are invited you´ll receive all needed directions. What do you do with an address of a site and you can´t log in?, you can do the dumbass sitting in front your PC looking a static page or you can try to do something that is not good. There is no other reasonable explanation.

We are forgetting something here: what we are doing when torrenting it´s illegal, like it or not. Trackers are targets. There are thousands of guys trying to screw up this whole thing... organizations, lawyers firms, federal institutions, even the Scene, our enemies are counted by thousands. FST is like paradise for them, here they can find whatever they want... what trackers have more users, what trackers have more releases and what trackers have this or that last release faster. They even can, without effort, get an invite here in many cases.

I know that googleing a little you can find any address, in the case that search is not with good intentions the guy will find it, of course, but not because you gave it to him, there is a difference, don´t you think?.

Besides, I believe in privacy, even on the internet, if a site wants to stay under the radar and they don´t do anything for publicing the site, why should somebody try to break that wish and calling undesired attention? Who gives you the right to invade others private space without consent?.


Security is, or should be, something very important to all of us, even in the smaller details.

Acronyms make sense, are used for some reason, that should be the only allowed here.

The thing is some sites don't care about their URL being posted and as you said it's on google anyway. Not to mention we would need some URL's for open signups right. We do have many URL's filtered in case you didn't know. TBH I'm not even sure what the criteria is though. I agree acronyms are a good idea in general.



2. trading. whether we like it or not, it must happen here. FST is a forum, not an extent of the trackers' rules. the day FST goes down that road, it's the beggining of their end.Not so sure it would be the end, why would it ?
Could it not also be a new start ?
a combined effort, does not mean the end of the road.

Cencorship is required everywhere, like it or loath it.
if some perv posts something disturbing like an image or video, and i delete it that is cencorship, its something that cannot be simply moulded to fit your personnal moral outlook. it has to meet a common middle ground of what everyone, finds acceptable.
FST will say, those are OUR rules! live by them.
trackers will say well OUR rules are different so we wont.
untill there is a common acceptance of those rules, a middle ground it will be an endless merry go round.

you know there is a similar site to this one, that has tracker backing right ?
it can work.
Have you made any effort to try and reach a middle ground at all, no. Not here that I have seen. In the abrupt IRC chat I had I had mentioned that I would like our sites to get along, I was bounced. With the censorship I will agree, to a degree. There is a fine line between keeping a sense of morality and being a Nazi ,I'm sure you'll agree.

As far as that other forum, with all due respect, they kiss trackers asses and have absolutly no backbone when it comes to their own site. I have seen them ask how high when a tracker says jump. To me this would also open up the idea of their staff being in it for the invites also. I don't know this for a fact and I'm not accusing them. I just see how this could be more likey there than here.

Im going to mention again that Tit came here to recruit and now we have Aids and are the scum of the BT world. A tad hypocritical no?

The real problem here is everyone seems to think this is a black and white pespective, it is'nt. Things arent as easy as they may seem to some. We are not going to kiss their ass as they won't kiss ours. Tell you what Get me on MSN and see if we can work something out or at least talk about what it is you would like. No promises but it can't hurt to talk.

[Nemrod]

A confrontation between any given tracker and FST will result in a lose-lose end. No winner. That´s what I think.

This is time for peace and good things, if Russia and USA could manage their differences for 50 years between a reasonable level of peace, how could not be possible to find some kind of arrangement here?

After all I think we all have something in common: we all want the best for the whole Sharing Community, right?. Everything is reachable just talking.
Begin by the obvious: cheaters and scammers are hated by everybody, There´s general consensus about that, right?, begin discussing how to deal with that, it could be a starting point... just an idea: open a sub-forum (it takes three minutes to create one and tons of good will) only for Com Rep and have your discussions there...

[mrnobody]

You could also make a sticky in the trading section, explaining to the noobs, why trading is not the way to go about it, and suggest other ways to them, not an anti-trading thread, just another thread with a different point of view, and take some of blasts post and stick it in there.

wondere why there never was such guide...a thread sticked in trading section that would put together different ways trading is wrong..and alternative ways to get an invite would be a good compliment to the entire trading section itself.

imo it would prolly be the best way to send a goodmessage.

[Skiz]

I add that FST without Skizo would be nice.

It wouldn't be any trouble at all to make it FST without cinephilia. :whistling

This is the second such post I've found you making. If you want to continue trolling the board, you'll be put on moderation or given the proverbial boot. You've been given enough chances - clean it up.

[thrillerboy]

But thrillerboy will come here and ask for not Irc addresses but asking for PTN? :slap:
Or other things?

dunno never even tried it.... I can't get whats the fun in giving the buffered account (which we buffered carefully) to someone else and getting his buffered account... :/

Never been to tit.Not looking either. Sure it is good.

yeah... I got PTN from here.... but, whats the point you are trying to make?

am I under radar now :D

[cinephilia]

I add that FST without Skizo would be nice.

It wouldn't be any trouble at all to make it FST without cinephilia. :whistling

This is the second such post I've found you making. If you want to continue trolling the board, you'll be put on moderation or given the proverbial boot. You've been given enough chances - clean it up.
Look at your reaction... my post was sarcastic (maybe i should have put some smileys for you to understand ?) but you feel offended as always.
Seriously, do you realise how much it's fascist to threaten a member for the only reason that he said something you don't like ? Did i broke the rules in any way ? what the heck are you calling "trolling" ? If my post is considered as trolling, i guess 50% of fst members should get an infraction.

Did you already heard about freedom of speech and expression ?

[iEATlilKIDS]

WAR cinephilia ֱֱֱֱ what an exacting thread btw well done all, its a riveting read

[1000possibleclaws]

It wouldn't be any trouble at all to make it FST without cinephilia. :whistling

This is the second such post I've found you making. If you want to continue trolling the board, you'll be put on moderation or given the proverbial boot. You've been given enough chances - clean it up.
Look at your reaction... my post was sarcastic (maybe i should have put some smileys for you to understand ?) but you feel offended as always.
Seriously, do you realise how much it's fascist to threaten a member for the only reason that he said something you don't like ? Did i broke the rules in any way ? what the heck are you calling "trolling" ? If my post is considered as trolling, i guess 50% of fst members should get an infraction.

Did you already heard about freedom of speech and expression ?

I would probably have taken offense to that post too had it been directed to me. You have been breaking Rule 14 a few times lately and we've let you off easy without any additional infractions. Honestly, without Skizo here I think this forum would probably fall apart. You can't really see what we do behind the scenes, but Skizo does alot of shit for FST. Either way this trolling is changing the thread's topic to pointless bickering.

[Albo Da Kid]

I thought the thread's topic was to find the Tit irc. In most cases I have seen a thread being closed by the OP after the info was retrieved but somehow this one manages to keep going on. I think everyone posting in this thread after the answer was given to the Op, is trolling.. not just cinephilla.

[Detale]

I thought the thread's topic was to find the Tit irc. In most cases I have seen a thread being closed by the OP after the info was retrieved but somehow this one manages to keep going on. I think everyone posting in this thread after the answer was given to the Op, is trolling.. not just cinephilla.Again with the serious business? Dude as you have been around a while I say this for the others that don't know. the BT section is more laxed on the rigidity of the posting rules to give it a community feel, all you're doing with the non constructive posts is making yourself look foolish.





... Honestly, without Skizo here I think this forum would probably fall apart. You can't really see what we do behind the scenes, but Skizo does alot of shit for FST. Either way this trolling is changing the thread's topic to pointless bickering.

Seriously, Skizo takes the brunt of the shit from everyone but the truth is you should all be grateful for him he is the "iron fist" we need around here sometimes. There is no way he is thanked enough for all his hard work. And T is soooo right you guys can't see some of the shit that goes on backstage. I should have listened to you man:ermm:

[Albo Da Kid]

Just saying it like it is. You on the other hand leave things out and make it look like you never did anything wrong. Sadly i know the story behind why you were banned at Tit and I would have done the same if i had the chance.
Also remember that just like you guys, Tit staff are trying to eat too.

That's all I have to say. I'm leaving this thread alone now.

[Detale]

Just saying it like it is. You on the other hand leave things out and make it look like you never did anything wrong. Sadly i know the story behind why you were banned at Tit and I would have done the same if i had the chance.
Also remember that just like you guys, Tit staff are trying to eat too.

That's all I have to say. I'm leaving this thread alone now.

Wow some vague statements and you're going to leave. Once again very constructive. "The" story sure so does everyone here now after I posted it. What, may I ask, have I left out? I didn't make it look like anything it wasn't. I even applauded the staff members there who were courteous. "Trying to eat too", :idunno:

[dakat]

Ok as this thread seems to have gotten off hand. I belong to a number of sites. Some don't care about security others do. Me myself I tend to frequent the ones with higher security more than the ones who have lesser security. Any sites I am on I have earned not traded. To me trading is a security threat. I am not against the forums helping people to learn torrenting. But I do find it sad that this site deems it necessary to have any trading. I also find it disturbing that one of the mod's here finds it necessary to air something that should of been handled privately in a public forum. It is sounding more and more like sour grapes from the Mod here than actual truth.