Seagat 160 Gb

[Benno]

Is this a good deal

A Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 Plus, 160GB --> http://www.it4profit.com/ecatalog/itemview...530132309684859 (http://www.it4profit.com/ecatalog/itemview/item_view.jsp?ItemCode=ST3160023A&COMP_CODE=30530132309684859)
for 139€?

[Livy]

found it for £112 so that looks a good deal

the only thing is that it isnt ata133, it may be worth getting an ata133 if ur mobo supports it.

[Somebody1234]

You don't need ATA133. Even other drives that are rated ATA133 don't use that transfer speed. It's only the maximum the interface will allow not the drives performance.

As for the Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 Plus... That is an excellent drive. It's about the quietest I have found. You can't hear it, even when defragmenting. Great for building 'silent' or 'quiet' PCs.

I don't know about that price as I don't have much of a reference being here in Canada.

[Livy]

ok, ill shut up then, but it seems a good price from the prices ive found, and exchange rate, etc.

[Benno]

Thanks guys once again you were a great help. :)

And expect a bit more questions from me in the near future, i wanna upgrade my PC ;)

[lynx]

Originally posted by Somebody1234@11 September 2003 - 23:23
You don't need ATA133. Even other drives that are rated ATA133 don't use that transfer speed. It's only the maximum the interface will allow not the drives performance.
ATA133 doesn't work.
Neither does ATA100, ATA66 or ATA33.
In fact you'd be better off with a pencil and paper.

ABSOLUTE FUCKING BULLSHIT

[Benno]

Originally posted by lynx+12 September 2003 - 02:57--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lynx @ 12 September 2003 - 02:57)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Somebody1234@11 September 2003 - 23:23
You don&#39;t need ATA133. Even other drives that are rated ATA133 don&#39;t use that transfer speed. It&#39;s only the maximum the interface will allow not the drives performance.
ATA133 doesn&#39;t work.
Neither does ATA100, ATA66 or ATA33.
In fact you&#39;d be better off with a pencil and paper.

ABSOLUTE FUCKING BULLSHIT [/b][/quote]
So you mean it does make a big difference?

[lynx]

Yes, it makes a difference, as long as your motherboard supports ATA133 too. But the limiting factor is probably media transfer (physically reading from/writing to disk), so the higher drive to memory transfer speeds cannot be maintained for long which is why it is also important to have a large cache.

[Somebody1234]

But the limiting factor is probably media transfer (physically reading from/writing to disk)

So, after saying that my post was bullshit... you then post this that says the same idea as my post. :blink:

Anyway, whatever man. I would just like to say that there really wasn&#39;t any reason to say that what I posted was bullshit.

Perhaps you just didn&#39;t like the wording of my post. :unsure:

[mogadishu]

does it matter what type of hd u get? go to pricewatch.com cheapest ones out there.. much cheaper than the one ur gettign.

[Somebody1234]

So you mean it does make a big difference?

Yes, it makes a difference.

He asked if it makes a big difference.

Maybe slightly under some conditions but not enough to worry about.

Look at this link: Western Digital Ultra Edition 8 MB buffer (http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?DriveID=27)
Even that Ultra Edition 8 MB buffer drive uses Ultra ATA/100.

Anyway. ATA133 was just a strategy from Maxtor to try to &#39;win over&#39; customers.

[lynx]

If ATA133 is a marketing strategy from maxtor, then how come all the motherboard manufacturers are supporting it ? If interface speed is unimportant, why is the coming technology SATA150, with SATA300 coming next and even the proposed SATA600 ? And why is the current top end SCSI interface Ultra-320 ?

You said that the drives don&#39;t use that transfer speed. I repeat, that is absolute bullshit.

He asked if it made a big difference. Under certain conditions it can make a tremendous difference, but I pointed out the conditions under which it does not apply, and why other factors were also important.

The ATA interface supports command queueing (standard IDE does not) so that the drive can be seeking/reading the next block of data while the current block is being transferred. But the command cannot get to the drive if the ATA bus is busy transferring data. Current buffer/disk transfer speeds are approaching 100MB/s (and in excess of that for some of the new SATA drives), so the ATA100 interface just does not have the capacity to handle the potential traffic.

In any case, I generally find Maxtor drives to be less expensive than other manufacturers, so if the proce it right why not have a faster interface too.

[Somebody1234]

I&#39;m not going to argue with you. You think you know this stuff better that me, right?

It all comes down to the words I used. Since you won&#39;t see that is the case then there is no longer a point to this.

And I don&#39;t throw derogatory comments with large red font at you. :P

[lynx]

I&#39;m sorry if I&#39;ve upset you, but I tend to have a short fuse when I see misleading or inaccurate advice from people who I am pretty sure know better. Had you said that it is not worth paying extra for ATA133 over ATA100, I would not have argued, but to blatantly say that it isn&#39;t used was just plain wrong, and the person asking for the advice wouldn&#39;t know better.

I think we all need to remember that the people asking for advice here probably have little to no hardware experience, so it is important that those of us who do know about these things give accurate advice.

Nuff said as far as I&#39;m concerned, matter closed.

[Benno]

Guys stop fighting here, basically my question was just about the price, if this is a good deal. :)

As for the drive it would be my 3rd seagate drive allready and I always had good experiences with them. ;)

[lynx]

"Nobody ever got sacked for buying Seagate" (I think the original said IBM, but the sentiment is still the same). I can&#39;t tell you if thats a good price for a Seagate, since my supplier only does SATA Seagate drives atm, but comparing prices of the nearest equivalents from other manufacturers I would say it is a pretty good deal.