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KushBlow
01-20-2009, 09:40 PM
List what trackers you think are the most overrated/underrated, just doing a small survey.

For me it's:

Most overrated: iTS
Most underrated: IPT

killercam101
01-20-2009, 09:42 PM
most overrated : bitsoup
most underrated : bitsoup

pone44
01-20-2009, 09:43 PM
I really never rate a tracker. I take it for what it is and try to make the best of it. I enjoy every single one i have seen so far. :yes:

danio
01-20-2009, 09:43 PM
Most overrated: iTS
Most underrated: SCC most definitely

KushBlow
01-20-2009, 09:46 PM
most overrated : bitsoup
most underrated : bitsoup

You never cease to amaze me.


I really never rate a tracker. I take it for what it is and try to make the best of it. I enjoy every single one i have seen so far. :yes:

Well yeah me too in a way...but sometimes I realize "whoa, what are these tards doing on ScT when IPT is way better?!" or something like that.

Albo Da Kid
01-20-2009, 09:49 PM
Most overrated: iTS, FTN,

Most underrated: KG, MV, SCC, RevoTT, bitsoup(lol), and Ipt of course

integral
01-20-2009, 09:53 PM
most overrated: ScT (it's more like an illegal business front than a tracker, so it's badly affected by the global recession.)

most underrated: superseed101's tracker, named scenegateway.com - don't worry, it's temporarily down, switching to a new gbit server.

VanBasten
01-20-2009, 09:59 PM
more over - iTS
underrated - GFT

ovisan
01-20-2009, 10:05 PM
Who rates them?
The thing is that I ve heard good things about ITS lately... I will probably do something never seen before here(at least by me) and request an invite. IPT is a great tracker... its got everything a good user can wish from a good 0day tracker.
Now, after I ve rechecked the wtaw thread I ve realised that the leveling its made 1st of all by the rarity of their invites, and not judging by their content or/and comunity.
I always loved docs.torrents.ro... and its lvl 1. Its got everything I need and the comunity in grate. I ve just seen that there a a few lvl 3 trackers where I ve not signed up for ages and I ve probably got disabled long time ago. About the trackers >lvl 8 I dont even know how to call them...we just stick to the ****.
Looking into p2p world thru wtaw thread is totaly wrong and will turn any good user into a trader in seconds. You dont "need" a tracker! You need its content or /and its comunity.

To the OP: Do we really need to answer the same questions every month? Or this thread is for the users that signed up after the New Year?

KushBlow
01-20-2009, 10:07 PM
New Year. :shifty:

Albo Da Kid
01-20-2009, 10:09 PM
iTS is only high on the WTAW thread just because the admin is good friends with the FST staff.

You can go else where and ask opinion about iTS and they will all tell you iTS is garbage.

KushBlow
01-20-2009, 10:12 PM
iTS is only high on the WTAW thread just because the admin is good friends with the FST staff.

You can go else where and ask opinion about iTS and they will all tell you iTS is garbage.

Define 'high'? I don't know much about WTAW but I thought high is level 5+?

puckface
01-20-2009, 10:13 PM
overrated: ftn
underrated: a few

nsk
01-20-2009, 10:15 PM
Overrated = FTN just because I can't get fookin in :lol::mad3:

Underrated = TTi, I dunno why, i just like this tracker :D

Its really down to personal preference though imo.

NippleCake
01-20-2009, 10:15 PM
i dont really know for overrated, but for underated i would definitly say SCC, no one seems to think it is any good simply because it has a low "level"

Albo Da Kid
01-20-2009, 10:16 PM
iTS is only high on the WTAW thread just because the admin is good friends with the FST staff.

You can go else where and ask opinion about iTS and they will all tell you iTS is garbage.

Define 'high'? I don't know much about WTAW but I thought high is level 5+?

Well it's definitely higher than it's supposed to be.

puckface
01-20-2009, 10:16 PM
i dont really know for overrated, but for underated i would definitly say SCC, no one seems to think it is any good simply because it has a low "level"

agreed.

Detale
01-20-2009, 10:35 PM
I still say Supetorrents is waay underrated. It is usually the site I give to no0bs starting out and its easy to keep a ratio on and has decent speeds with a great staff.

Time-Traveller
01-20-2009, 10:40 PM
Underrated - The Horror Charnel
Overrated - ScT

jbloggs
01-20-2009, 11:11 PM
Underated: Bitsoup, Dididave, TheBox

kevinsert
01-20-2009, 11:22 PM
UnderRated: SCC 4 Sure
Overrated: SCT

Albo Da Kid
01-20-2009, 11:24 PM
Underated: Bitsoup, Dididave, TheBox

Bravo. Didadave is definitely on the underrated list. It's sad that most users know about iTS and ftn instead of this tracker.

harshytkage
01-20-2009, 11:24 PM
underated- IPT, revoTT
overrate- i wnot overrate anyone right now (looks around suspiciously)

noAxx
01-20-2009, 11:37 PM
Underrated:
Cinemageddon - Imagine a level 1 tracker...always open. And yet, it may well be the best tracker on the net. Specialized, but the content is second to none in the area it covers. Easy as hell to seed and accordingly keep a good ratio. This means actually being able to download what you want, not just ratio-boosting nonsense. The custom subs, the request filling, and the community are also quite nice. The latter is especially helpful in terms of getting invites to other communities. Places like SC, KG, THC, and What are always available, and often times so are other more "exclusive" trackers like Waffles, ScL, iTS, ect.

Demonoid - Yes it is often open for registration and there are no ratio rules. But as far as private trackers go, this is place everybody checks when their main trackers are missing whatever it is they're searching for. It is a good "filling the wholes" tracker.

iTS - I've defended it before, and I'll continue to do so. A great collection system, tons of (relative to size) AFR rips, a nice community, no ratio, and a fantastic competition going on right now.

ScL - Okay, it doesn't have the pres of SCC, or the variety of content that IPT does. But the pres are getting much better and the selection is fine if you have an addition 0day tracker you can use to pick up the slack. They have a nice community with an excellent porn forum, some nice competitions, and good means of building a ratio buffer (packs, music,and archived torrents). One of the better looking trackers too.

Overrated:
TehConnection - Nice design, but nothing special. The rare movies are more easily found elsewhere, and the mainstream stuff is everywhere else too.

Otherwise, I'm not too certain. I mean there are a number of trackers I've either joined or been invited to that weren't all that impressive. But since many of them weren't particularly hyped up, it is hard to accuse them of being overrated.

vpg8000
01-20-2009, 11:38 PM
Underrated: IPT, RevTT, TTi, The Horror Charnel

Detale
01-20-2009, 11:50 PM
Underated: Bitsoup, Dididave, TheBox
WOW talk about a blast from the past. DIDI dave was one of my first sites even before they were dididave. I forgot all about them. Im going to look them up asap.

pro267
01-20-2009, 11:50 PM
Most overrated: iTS, FTN,


iTS is only high on the WTAW thread just because the admin is good friends with the FST staff.

You can go else where and ask opinion about iTS and they will all tell you iTS is garbage.





Define 'high'? I don't know much about WTAW but I thought high is level 5+?

Well it's definitely higher than it's supposed to be.


Bravo. Didadave is definitely on the underrated list. It's sad that most users know about iTS and ftn instead of this tracker.
By now, everyone knows you're pissed at iTS for not accepting your invitation request. The fact that you're continuously trying to bash a tracker you're not even member of, just to get back at them for not accepting your invitation request is actually quite pathetic, and shows what a little, petty person you actually are.

Looking at your post history here, your constant spamming, nagging and general moronic behavior, I would actually consider any site which refuses to have you as a member as that little bit better.

Get over yourself.

Albo Da Kid
01-20-2009, 11:57 PM
Actually that's not at all why. I used to be in iTS. Was never really interested about the tracker and the account died without me even realizing.

When i say iTS sucks, I'm saying it from experience not because I'm hearing it from other people.

And my post history in fst has not stopped me at all from getting where i want to be at. You on the other hand might have to get your lips a little wet to get in some certain trackers.....hahah

Edit: and btw...don't you have anything better to do other than study my post history? Keep reading, you might find something

DakotaJune
01-21-2009, 12:05 AM
I assume the rarity 'ratings' are accurate so I won't comment on those..

As for the general perception of how good certain trackers are.. I would say the most overrated:

SCT - the pretimes have fallen off big time recently but even before that I saw myself using other trackers for general content (TL) (it's still a very good site.. just the perception - reality is very very big)

Most underrated I would have to say is:

what.cd - the content on this site is the best for what it's offering
(music, apps and ebooks) but I don't really see many people saying good things about this site

kevinsert
01-21-2009, 12:05 AM
Albo stop bashing its :/ its a good tracker imho..Please check that Wtaw thread and you can see more high level garbages..after level 4 or 5 i want to see rare trackers not 30 40k Trackers like SCT..i know you guys especially talk about pretimes and packs..come on ppl just everybody got seedbox @ there and making ridicilious packs ''SCT A-B movie pack '' , ''SCT give me 10 € and get your invite Pack '' SCT Scary Movie Pack '' bla bla packs.. that packs just so lame and i bet only ppl downloading them from seedbox..whatever i dont like sct staff they think they r untouchables and high level staff cuz of wtaw list.


I assume the rarity 'ratings' are accurate so I won't comment on those..

As for the general perception of how good certain trackers are.. I would say the most overrated:

SCT - the pretimes have fallen off big time recently but even before that I saw myself using other trackers for general content (TL) (it's still a very good site.. just the perception - reality is very very big)

Most underrated I would have to say is:

what.cd - the content on this site is the best for what it's offering
(music, apps and ebooks) but I don't really see many people saying good things about this site
WhatCD is greatest best music source in trackers..only thing about i dont like whatcd so many people requests huge bounties on unrecorded albums...its so annoying:dry: i hope staff take care of that type of requests in soon

Albo Da Kid
01-21-2009, 12:08 AM
Albo stop bashing its :/ its a good tracker imho


If kevinsert says so then it must be true.

kevinsert
01-21-2009, 12:10 AM
Albo stop bashing its :/ its a good tracker imho


If kevinsert says so then it must be true.
:huh: im seriously serious :01:
i requested some rare movie and they uploaded 20 min later

Pris
01-21-2009, 12:11 AM
Underrated - TL and SCC

Overrated - iTs

Mr Z
01-21-2009, 12:13 AM
what tracker is its?

Albo Da Kid
01-21-2009, 12:14 AM
:huh: im seriously serious :01:
i requested some rare movie and they uploaded 20 min later

ahaha im serious too. i believe you. How did you end up in iTS btw? I bet someone was bored of their account. I'm not trying to make fun of you btw. just curious

kevinsert
01-21-2009, 12:15 AM
guys Stop this iTs thing :/ its not level 5 or 6 just level 3 and i think its alright.




:huh: im seriously serious :01:
i requested some rare movie and they uploaded 20 min later

ahaha im serious too. i believe you. How did you end up in iTS btw? I bet someone was bored of their account. I'm not trying to make fun of you btw. just curious
no bro radience invited me ;) if you want invite ask him he doesnt see himself as a god like other trackers admins..He can help you anytime if you are good one

Albo Da Kid
01-21-2009, 12:17 AM
^oo i see. nice nice enjoy the account

pro267
01-21-2009, 12:23 AM
Actually that's not at all why. I used to be in iTS. Was never really interested about the tracker and the account died without me even realizing.

When i say iTS sucks, I'm saying it from experience not because I'm hearing it from other people.
So let me get your story straight: you were a member of the tracker before and thought it sucked so bad, that after being disabled from it you actually went into all the trouble of applying for the tracker again, only to be denied by staff. Right, that totally makes sense.


And my post history in fst has not stopped me at all from getting where i want to be at. You on the other hand might have to get your lips a little wet to get in some certain trackers.....hahah
So now you're trying to brag with your e-penis size. My god, how pathetic can you become?


Edit: and btw...don't you have anything better to do other than study my post history? Keep reading, you might find something
I didn't actually have to go over all your spam history, it's quite evident throughout the forum. I noticed your low quality posts for a while, and was waiting for staff to finally disable your account and rid us of your annoying presence.

The DP is a good start, but unfortunately the ultimate solution seems to be taking longer than I had hoped.

Night0wl
01-21-2009, 12:31 AM
Have to agree.. Not much content in da Kid's posts.

BTW Pro. Only 11 months now until next Christmas :P

As for the underrated/overrated thing, I think it comes down to each person's preference. I don't think either iTs or ScT are overrated. Also I don't see how TC can be overrated, I mean who ever said that TC was just so great, when they were in the process of changing the tracker for many months.

I think What is overrated when it comes to being recommended in every single thread about music. I find lots of stuff elsewhere, which is not on What.CD... or at least not in the quality I want.

stoi
01-21-2009, 12:36 AM
Overrated = every tracker in the WTAW, what some people will do to get into them is silly.

Underrated = none, if they want members they will get them, if they dont they wont, if you like it you like it, if you dont, well then you dont.

Albo Da Kid
01-21-2009, 12:36 AM
I didn't actually have to go over all your spam history, it's quite evident throughout the forum. I noticed your low quality posts for a while,

haha and what do you consider "high quality posts"??
Put in some low frequency words and a whole lot of d*** sucking and ass kissing and you got yourself a high quality post....?
While you do that, I'll stck to my style.


The DP is a good start, but unfortunately the ultimate solution seems to be taking longer than I had hoped.

Sitting in front of your pc and hoping for such a thing is a little more pathetic than bragging about penis sizes....don't you think????

lolyou're helpless. keep wishing it might come true...and while you do that, wish for a life also. I'm getting tired to replying to your posts.
To me you sound like a nerd who was abused at school:lol:(yea i know your type). How's the revenge thing going btw?? Make those bullies suffer:angry::lol:

kevinsert
01-21-2009, 12:38 AM
albo and pro267 please stop this :)

Cabalo
01-21-2009, 12:40 AM
***sigh***
a thread with a title like this could only go one way... "the flame warz"

http://files.blog-city.com/files/F06/156208/p/f/flamewar_doodle.gif

by the way, the most underrated of them all is definitely SCC.

vpg8000
01-21-2009, 12:43 AM
It's getting ugly in this mofo.

Duckater
01-21-2009, 12:44 AM
Overrated = every tracker in the WTAW, what some people will do to get into them is silly.

Underrated = none, if they want members they will get them, if they dont they wont, if you like it you like it, if you dont, well then you dont.


I would not say every tracker as not in them all, but all trackers rated 5 or higher I think are over rated .

I don't under rate trackers but there are clearly a lot not on the wtaw list that are a lot better than a lot on it and some have either only mentioned once or twice or never here, infact sites that aint in the wtaw are as a rule more friendly and have better atmosphere than the ones near the top of wtaw list imho. This is due to the fact that members there tend to be more relaxed and less worried about losing there accounts.

Albo Da Kid
01-21-2009, 12:44 AM
^lol @ your sig "How to be a good member: "+1 . GL bro, hope you get it. Wish one day i also get invited there. you are good member at FST. nice request and nice proofs.":lol:

I'm glad theres threads like this. They're 10X more entertaining than http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bittorrent-43/t-what-last-torrent-you-downlaoded--330664 <<<<< threads like this.(no disrespect to the op)
Probably the only reason most of us still visit fst..

Qlix
01-21-2009, 01:02 AM
Most under rated gft for sure

mrnobody
01-21-2009, 01:15 AM
define what 'underrated' or 'overrated' is? Is it the tarding level you are looking at or are you looking at recognition of a tracker in BT community or something else?

If it is the trading level you look at then keep looking.

If you are looking for recognition of a tracker in BT community then i would say none is overrated or underrated. SCC which most for some reason think is underrated is one of the (if not the) fastest (w.r.t. pre) tracker in entire bt community...everyone who is involved in some short of pretime racing knows that.

Trackers like THC or the one run by sysop few posts above me aren't underrated either. Their members know and appreciate what the tracker has to offer...and that is all that matter. If the tracker wanted attention from outside world they would be racing in pre channel, advertizing themselves over torrent forums, posting a review or something alike....which obviously they don't.

Rafa
01-21-2009, 01:19 AM
I really never rate a tracker. I take it for what it is and try to make the best of it. I enjoy every single one i have seen so far. :yes:

this man is a gentleman

after that I stopped to read the thread :yup:

celtic
01-21-2009, 01:41 AM
Overrated : Most 0sec trackers ScT/FTN/SCC/GFT etc

Underated : Probably Wheelmods/TiT/TL

killercam101
01-21-2009, 02:10 AM
Underated: Bitsoup, DiDiBitsoup, TheBitsoup
I co sign:yup:

cinephilia
01-21-2009, 03:52 AM
most underrated: cinematik, cinema-obscura, demonoid
most overrated: scl, bitmetv, iplay, ftn

crimsonhaze
01-21-2009, 05:16 AM
Now i know how some of you have ridiculous post counts: the constant back and forth. Must be sad to have to babysit your posts.

Overrated: all trackers that have rare invites but low member count.
Underrated: a lot of foreign trackers.

Funkin'
01-21-2009, 08:25 AM
In my opino:

Most underrated: IPT, Pedro's, E, The Horror Charnel
Most overrated: FTN(still a great tracker, just not the god of all trackers as some seem to think)

KushBlow
01-21-2009, 11:13 AM
define what 'underrated' or 'overrated' is? Is it the tarding level you are looking at or are you looking at recognition of a tracker in BT community or something else?

I mean the general perception of the trackers, NOT talking about levels at all. Forget there are levels and then answer, you'll see what I mean :).

cinephilia
01-21-2009, 01:50 PM
In my opino:

Most underrated: IPT, Pedro's, E, The Horror Charnel
Most overrated: FTN(still a great tracker, just not the god of all trackers as some seem to think)
I don't think E & Pedro are underrated, they have a good reputation all over BT land.

Funkin'
01-21-2009, 02:15 PM
In my opino:

Most underrated: IPT, Pedro's, E, The Horror Charnel
Most overrated: FTN(still a great tracker, just not the god of all trackers as some seem to think)
I don't think E & Pedro are underrated, they have a good reputation all over BT land.

Yeah, you may be right. It's just when music trackers are usually discussed, Waffles and What are usually the most talked about. Maybe because they have more content than P and E? I don't know. But, for lossless only trackers where you can up only your own cd's/vinyls that you have properly ripped, and considering the amount of members each tracker has, there is a whole lot of content on each one.

Night0wl
01-21-2009, 02:18 PM
I don't think E & Pedro are underrated, they have a good reputation all over BT land.

Yeah, you may be right. It's just when music trackers are usually discussed, Waffles and What are usually the most talked about. Maybe because they have more content than P and E? I don't know. But, for lossless only trackers where you can up only your own cd's/vinyls that you have properly ripped, and considering the amount of members each tracker has, there is a whole lot of content on each one.

It isn't that Pedro's and E are underrated. It's more that Waffles and especially What are overrated in the sense that people just check number of torrents and then they are automatically the best ones.

I for one would not like to be stuck with only one or two of them.. any of them.

Ahmed047
01-21-2009, 02:43 PM
List what trackers you think are the most overrated/underrated, just doing a small survey.
For me it's:
Most overrated: iTS
Most underrated: IPT

Most overrated : SCL
Most underrated : Zamunda

jasperr
01-21-2009, 02:45 PM
what does being under rated or over rated mean exactly..?? in whos opinion is that decided and based on what..??

this is a very fair question because more often than not, its the members of places like this that bring unnecessary hype/and or attraction to a tracker.. a tracker is just that a tracker.. it's all you folks that make too much of a deal out of them.. seriously now..

you can have your favorites, and ones that you don't like or w/e that's all well and good, it's a personal choice.... but, when you folks start making threads saying how great you think one tracker is... or how bad you think it is, all that does is bring spam wars involving the lovers and the haters... thats all nothing else..

but, yeah... it's mainly members of trade/invite sites that make all this hype.. then when someone doesn't like it they blame staff for trying to be l33t and this or that... blah, blah.... when in fact its not staff at all...... lmao

makes me laugh when all you self righteous users think a tracker "over hyped" .... funny as hell

Brenya
01-21-2009, 02:48 PM
most underrated: cinematik, cinema-obscura, demonoid
most overrated: scl, bitmetv, iplay, ftn
underrated:
mininova just has everything, and i love the style.
overrated:
demonoid is given too much acclaim. it's really just a public tracker, but with all the bad things of a private tracker.
pirate bay is just buggy. the coders should get to work on that .p2p protocol and just throw their tracker away (they may already have).

jasperr
01-21-2009, 03:43 PM
most underrated: cinematik, cinema-obscura, demonoid
most overrated: scl, bitmetv, iplay, ftn
underrated:
mininova just has everything, and i love the style.
overrated:
demonoid is given too much acclaim. it's really just a public tracker, but with all the bad things of a private tracker.
pirate bay is just buggy. the coders should get to work on that .p2p protocol and just throw their tracker away (they may already have).

and mininova is not a public tracker??? O.o

Funkin'
01-21-2009, 04:03 PM
Demonoid is in no way overrated in my opinion. It's a huge tracker that has a ton of content. New and rare. And that's what the tracker is known for. It's taken for granted by a lot of people.

stoi
01-21-2009, 04:04 PM
No its not

Mininova is a torrent link site, it does not have its own tracker (well i think it may do now but it is not for everything, there are special torrents on it, havnt been there for eons though) but it is definitely not a public tracker.

Demonoid and TPB are trackers, and 1 is Public the other Semi Public, but they still have their own tracker.

kavselj
01-21-2009, 04:12 PM
Albo stop bashing its :/ its a good tracker imho..Please check that Wtaw thread and you can see more high level garbages..after level 4 or 5 i want to see rare trackers not 30 40k Trackers like SCT..i know you guys especially talk about pretimes and packs..come on ppl just everybody got seedbox @ there and making ridicilious packs ''SCT A-B movie pack '' , ''SCT give me 10 € and get your invite Pack '' SCT Scary Movie Pack '' bla bla packs.. that packs just so lame and i bet only ppl downloading them from seedbox..whatever i dont like sct staff they think they r untouchables and high level staff cuz of wtaw list.

We couldn't care less about some silly and retarded WTAW list that means nothing at all ;)

P.S. I wanted to type just "LOL @ kevinsert" but that would be spamming and get me an infraction :(

Brenya
01-21-2009, 06:30 PM
Demonoid is in no way overrated in my opinion. It's a huge tracker that has a ton of content. New and rare. And that's what the tracker is known for. It's taken for granted by a lot of people.
What you have just said is the only thing I hear about demonoid. All the people claiming that it's underrated makes it overrated.

Funkin'
01-21-2009, 09:00 PM
Demonoid is in no way overrated in my opinion. It's a huge tracker that has a ton of content. New and rare. And that's what the tracker is known for. It's taken for granted by a lot of people.
What you have just said is the only thing I hear about demonoid. All the people claiming that it's underrated makes it overrated.

That makes complete sense.

Detale
01-21-2009, 09:30 PM
What you have just said is the only thing I hear about demonoid. All the people claiming that it's underrated makes it overrated.

Well no not really, it is just alot of people stating that it's underrated.

MAX011
01-21-2009, 09:51 PM
this thread is 2nd wtaw thread

mievmo
01-21-2009, 10:08 PM
underrated- Scc

samuelmok
01-22-2009, 06:39 AM
under rated - demonoid, IPT, RevTT, Zamunda

apextwin146
01-22-2009, 06:41 AM
under rated - Google

TranceMaster6003
01-22-2009, 05:20 PM
most overrated :iTS
most underrated : SCC

Albo Da Kid
01-22-2009, 05:27 PM
So wasn't the only one voting for iTS as the most overrated, It was a bunch of others also...hmm interesting

9NINE
01-22-2009, 06:58 PM
most overrated :any tracker I cant get!!!!!!!
most underrated : SCC,TL

IdolEyes787
01-22-2009, 07:16 PM
So wasn't the only one voting for iTS as the most overrated, It was a bunch of others also...hmm interesting

Yes but you are the only one belaboring the point.

Brenya
01-22-2009, 07:18 PM
What you have just said is the only thing I hear about demonoid. All the people claiming that it's underrated makes it overrated.

Well no not really, it is just alot of people stating that it's underrated.
When people claim something is underrated so repetitively, the perception of that something is slightly exaggerated.

Albo Da Kid
01-22-2009, 07:20 PM
So wasn't the only one voting for iTS as the most overrated, It was a bunch of others also...hmm interesting

Yes but you are the only one belaboring the point.

^true. maybe that has to do with te fact that 20 users jumped in my throat everytime i talked about it... But i guess you're right. I already made my point so no point to keep belaboring about it.

cinephilia
01-22-2009, 11:24 PM
What you have just said is the only thing I hear about demonoid. All the people claiming that it's underrated makes it overrated.
sorry but Demonoid have a bad reputation (riaa, viruses...) and many torrent users think it's a crappy tracker so it's not because there's a couple of posts defending the tracker that every torrent users think the same thing.
furthermore, new torrenters generally tend to disavow Demonoid after getting in "renown" private trackers.