help and advice on trackers and usenet

[Twolf13]

I posted some of this in another thread and it was thought that I should post a new thread, thus I am..to those who responded in the previous thread http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bittorrent-43/t-help-new-kid-out-looking-my-interests-which-private-trackers-should-go-for-331755/editpost.php?do=editpost&postid=3115835 many thanks for your advice and input.

First, my original request was I have seeded some football games on a tracker for the last 4 years so not new to torrenting so much, but like slammers, new to looking for dvd/etc trackers(football is all i know..haha), so looking to find a good tracker or three that has a good selection of dvds mostly. I did try one tracker, but everything was avi or xvid, which is ok if that is all there is, and the selection was not too good. I prefer dvd quality, full dvd when possible. But from searching the net and reading around here, that TTi, TL, BitHQ(especially this one, as I have read several places about them), cinematik, u**t, dvdclub, sct, and the other sceneetc's look promising oh and cartoon chaos for the daughter. I checked out each but they all require invites. Do any of them ever have open seasons, periodically that I can look out for? I have read a lot about invites and believe it is taboo to buy or trade etc for invites, so I guess if I need an invite what is the best way of knowing if a friend or other might be a member of one of these? I know some places have short windows sporadically where you can register without an invite. What is the best, and correct method to get an invite if possible for the ones that don't have open season? Thanks for any advice or recommendations Thanks again to the responses for this
Skizo thanks for the link to the reviews, it is very helpful

what is Elektr0nik and TranceRoute. ?

Usenet, I have never used and don't even know what it is. Can anyone point me to information on this? Is it filesharing, and do they do dvd size stuff? I have always heard of Usenet but never ventured that way thinking it was another way of chat and that type of thing...guess I was wrong. Can anyone help me on that, how to start, where to go to start, what is it?

My intention is not necessarily to request invites, just how one goes about finding folks that will give them if you don't know anyone at all that uses these places.

I am currently dling a couple of Scooby flicks for my daughter, but disappointed that they are divx...i like the full dvd and good quality and to burn it to dvd. Divx and xvid, I have to convert dvd files and even minor may have a little loss of quality....thus my pref for dvd files.





Thanks to all who replied and gave great advice...tim

[NippleCake]

to quickly answer one of your questions, elektronik and tranceroute are specialised music trackers in, well, electronic/trance music :)
do a search here you will dig up some infoirmation on them

[slammers]

elektronik and tranceroute combined make trancetraffic. All three are music trackers related to electronic/trance/house/dance/techno/hardstyle music. Trancetraffic is the 'hardest' to get into, therefore if you are new the advise would be to start with elektronik and tranceroute, which is already hard.

Usenet is what I use next to torrents. Yes it is a method of filesharing but different from p2p and torrenting. There is no tracker or whatever, only newsgroups, and these are public (oke there might be some private ones). A random user has a DVD at home, thinks he should post it on usenet. Goes to a newsgroup and uploads it. Done. Every other user just checks via www.binsearch.net or www.newzleech.com etc. if the movie they want is on there. If so, they download it with their newsserver. There is ratio stuff going on or anything. It is only leeching. And uploading a DVD (poster in usenet language) is not necessary.

[Twolf13]

Thanks so much you two for explaining what those are and for the links Slammers..that should get me started. And again Slammers...Sorry bout the other thread...and thanks for your patience..tim

[killercam101]

get limewire

[slammers]

Thanks so much you two for explaining what those are and for the links Slammers..that should get me started. And again Slammers...Sorry bout the other thread...and thanks for your patience..tim

Everything is no problemo m8 :)

[sksksk1]

You can go to slyck to find out about usenet. Keep eyes on open sign here.
Some sites opened not long ago. Maybe they will open again.

[Twolf13]

Thanks so much everyone..headed over to learn about usenet...thanks..tim

[Skiz]

If you don't mind forking over $11+/month (http://www.news.astraweb.com/specials/kleverig-11.html), Usenet is the way to go. It is a far superior method of obtaining files than torrents.

Some people, even after experimenting with it find that they would rather download content for free, but even those are few and far between. And even of those, they never choose to revert due to lack of content.

Usenet was around way before private BT trackers. It predates them by some twenty years and releases of apps, TV programs, and the latest films traditionally go to Usenet first. It's always been that way. Usenet and its numerous groups, has many, many more uploaders than any private torrent site.

Now I'm not saying that some BT trackers don't have uploaders that cap TV shows or crack programs and release them exclusively to the site but Usenet is the place for getting releases first. You have to know the right groups, of course, but once you've got your favorite groups entrenched in your newsreader of choice, you'll find everything you need and will be able to download it sooner and faster than if you relied on your private tracker.

Using Giganews and Alt.Binz I have 240+ days of content to download* at max speeds which downloads, fixes, and extracts itself.

* As an example, Newzbin can provide me with approximately 120,000 posts of content** whilst the average on my private trackers is about 10,000. Usenet search engines reveal literally hundreds of thousands of files available.

** That's new and old content. At max speed. All the time. With no need to upload.

There really is no comparison.

[Twolf13]

If you don't mind forking over $11+/month (http://www.news.astraweb.com/specials/kleverig-11.html), Usenet is the way to go. It is a far superior method of obtaining files than torrents.

Some people, even after experimenting with it find that they would rather download content for free, but even those are few and far between. And even of those, they never choose to revert due to lack of content.

Usenet was around way before private BT trackers. It predates them by some twenty years and releases of apps, TV programs, and the latest films traditionally go to Usenet first. It's always been that way. Usenet and its numerous groups, has many, many more uploaders than any private torrent site.

Now I'm not saying that some BT trackers don't have uploaders that cap TV shows or crack programs and release them exclusively to the site but Usenet is the place for getting releases first. You have to know the right groups, of course, but once you've got your favorite groups entrenched in your newsreader of choice, you'll find everything you need and will be able to download it sooner and faster than if you relied on your private tracker.

Using Giganews and Alt.Binz I have 240+ days of content to download* at max speeds which downloads, fixes, and extracts itself.

* As an example, Newzbin can provide me with approximately 120,000 posts of content** whilst the average on my private trackers is about 10,000. Usenet search engines reveal literally hundreds of thousands of files available.

** That's new and old content. At max speed. All the time. With no need to upload.

There really is no comparison.
Wow! thanks again Skizo...I went to that Skyck site and ran into all kinds of stuff that I had no idea what it was such as x days of content, posts of x, retention...no idea what any of that means.

if you don't mind my prying into your knowledge on this..

what does the x days of content mean?

Is there one particular one that you would recommend..i went to giganews and checked it out...thought it was pretty good. Is there one that is good, that like some private trackers ensures there are not viruses etc in the d/l's?

if you join one of them does that give you access to everything out there on all usenets or just that particular one

and do you use torrent clients, like utorrent and and no seeding?



Thanks so much...t

ok, I registered at the giganews...what now? how do I find downloads...sorry for my newbiness and ignorrance..t

[piratebot]

nvm (http://www.slyck.com/ng.php)

[Detale]

Wow! thanks again Skizo...I went to that Skyck site and ran into all kinds of stuff that I had no idea what it was such as x days of content, posts of x, retention...no idea what any of that means.

if you don't mind my prying into your knowledge on this..

what does the x days of content mean?

Is there one particular one that you would recommend..i went to giganews and checked it out...thought it was pretty good. Is there one that is good, that like some private trackers ensures there are not viruses etc in the d/l's?

if you join one of them does that give you access to everything out there on all usenets or just that particular one

and do you use torrent clients, like utorrent and and no seeding?



Thanks so much...t

ok, I registered at the giganews...what now? how do I find downloads...sorry for my newbiness and ignorrance..t

LOL not a problem man I have giganews and its great. X days is the number of retention days you have with the server of your choice. Giga is like 240 I think meaning you can download a file that is 240 days old.

Go here (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-newsgroups-79/) and read either the newsleecher of grabit tutorial it will explain alot also read the quickpar sticky. Any other problems feel free to get me on MSN ;)

You don't use Utorrent but you use newsleecher or Grabit, personally I use an app called Alt.binz and love it. A good way to understand is these are like utorrent they are the "client" and NZB files are like torrent files and yes No upload at all.

Giga is the news server or service you now have access to any of the files. We have a NZB section here with some really good stuff and there are a few good sites that are free and some that want money but IMO don't pay them.

[Funkin']

Good choice on experimenting with Usenet. You are more than likely going to love it, and won't want to use private trackers. Well, at least the usual 0day/general trackers that are a dime a dozen nowadays. Some specialty ones still come in handy.

I recommend going over to the newsgroups board of this site and just read. You'll find all kinds of information in that board.

[Skiz]

If you don't mind forking over $11+/month (http://www.news.astraweb.com/specials/kleverig-11.html), Usenet is the way to go. It is a far superior method of obtaining files than torrents.

Some people, even after experimenting with it find that they would rather download content for free, but even those are few and far between. And even of those, they never choose to revert due to lack of content.

Usenet was around way before private BT trackers. It predates them by some twenty years and releases of apps, TV programs, and the latest films traditionally go to Usenet first. It's always been that way. Usenet and its numerous groups, has many, many more uploaders than any private torrent site.

Now I'm not saying that some BT trackers don't have uploaders that cap TV shows or crack programs and release them exclusively to the site but Usenet is the place for getting releases first. You have to know the right groups, of course, but once you've got your favorite groups entrenched in your newsreader of choice, you'll find everything you need and will be able to download it sooner and faster than if you relied on your private tracker.

Using Giganews and Alt.Binz I have 240+ days of content to download* at max speeds which downloads, fixes, and extracts itself.

* As an example, Newzbin can provide me with approximately 120,000 posts of content** whilst the average on my private trackers is about 10,000. Usenet search engines reveal literally hundreds of thousands of files available.

** That's new and old content. At max speed. All the time. With no need to upload.

There really is no comparison.
Wow! thanks again Skizo...I went to that Skyck site and ran into all kinds of stuff that I had no idea what it was such as x days of content, posts of x, retention...no idea what any of that means.

if you don't mind my prying into your knowledge on this..

what does the x days of content mean?

Is there one particular one that you would recommend..i went to giganews and checked it out...thought it was pretty good. Is there one that is good, that like some private trackers ensures there are not viruses etc in the d/l's?

if you join one of them does that give you access to everything out there on all usenets or just that particular one

and do you use torrent clients, like utorrent and and no seeding?



Thanks so much...t

ok, I registered at the giganews...what now? how do I find downloads...sorry for my newbiness and ignorrance..t

I could explain all this, but you'd still have more and more questions. :P

You'll be better off just reading about what Usenet is and how it works. You can find answers to terms like retention, posts, etc quite easily.

Perhaps you could start here? - http://www.dvdhelp.us/index.html?html/tutusenet101.html~mainFrame

/moved to File Sharing.

[Twolf13]

Thanks Skizo...i did read for hours last nite..and got started.
I will head to that link you just posted too.
And thanks so much for the other kindly replies and advice...am checking out all the the links now too..

well if anyone saw that question i just deleted, i figured it out after posting...my question tho is on giganews, how do I get grabit to get all the newsgroups instead of a select few thanks in advance..t

[Twolf13]

so far so bad..not liking this at all...seems like it is nickel and diming me to death..chuckling...paid for giganews, (well the trial of 10 days) and then pay, then have to pay for a news search software, tried a free on, grabii and was limited to x amount of searches a day otherwise pay a fee for unlimited searches a day, and so on. did you guys that started with usenet, run into this or did I jump into this the wrong way?
I am learning a lot tho...right now bittorrent seems easier and cheaper by far, but I am sticking with this till i figure it out and if it is as good or better than bittorrent..don't mind the 13 bucks per mo. but the extra here and there, and the second prog i am trying, newsleecher you can't buy but pay x amount per year...
I am not complaining, just that there was more to it than learning it but am learning. thanks to all who have helped and advised, if you have any more advice/insight to offer it would be appreciated..thanks again...t

[piratebot]

nvm

[Skiz]

so far so bad..not liking this at all...seems like it is nickel and diming me to death..chuckling...paid for giganews, (well the trial of 10 days) and then pay, then have to pay for a news search software, tried a free on, grabii and was limited to x amount of searches a day otherwise pay a fee for unlimited searches a day, and so on. did you guys that started with usenet, run into this or did I jump into this the wrong way?
I am learning a lot tho...right now bittorrent seems easier and cheaper by far, but I am sticking with this till i figure it out and if it is as good or better than bittorrent..don't mind the 13 bucks per mo. but the extra here and there, and the second prog i am trying, newsleecher you can't buy but pay x amount per year...
I am not complaining, just that there was more to it than learning it but am learning. thanks to all who have helped and advised, if you have any more advice/insight to offer it would be appreciated..thanks again...t

That's b/c you're trying to use either the Grabit search or Newleecher's super search, or both. Screw both of those. No need for either of them.

Use NZB sites or search engines as mentioned above.

FST also has a good selection here (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/nzbindex.php) but we only keep files for 70 days.

[Twolf13]

some free newsreaders:
sabnzbd - i use this
grabit
alt.binz

some free search sites:
http://www.newzleech.com/
http://binsearch.info/

not free search indexing site:
newzbin.com - i use this

some nzb sites:
NZBMatrix.com (http://nzbmatrix.com/)
Merlins-portal.net (http://merlins-portal.net/)
Nzbsrus.com (http://nzbsrus.com/)

thanks Pirate will give that sabn a try ..grabit worked but it only allows about 5 searches a day and then have to pay for more..alt.bin could not get to work, but will retry now that i have learned a little bit on this newsleech..will try all those sites and software..thanks for the heads up and advice..very much appreciated..t

[Twolf13]

For what it's worth, thanks to all of you who suggested and pointed me to usenet...still using a couple of trackers, but the usenet thing is starting to work better, with all the help and advice you all have given and it is really fast.. while somthing I am d/ling now is d/ling, i am off to learn about opening par2 files..chuckling...a great learning experience...thanks..t

[no_bother]

I tested out Usenet, and have to say, Didn't like it at all. Im gone back to private trackers again, almost straight away.
genearlly the sites you named in your first post are a fair step away (U*** especially, probably will never happen although you never know) but if your looking for some relatively easy sites for stuff
General needs: Bitsoup (not my favourite, but good to start off on, they oppen signups whenever there is space as far as I know)
demonoid-almost everyones first place. theres millions of invites floating around for this, easy to come by and well worth it.
TL: fantastic site with HUGE userbase, so really easy to seed backw aht you download, but a step up to get into fromd emonoid.
REVTT: similar enough to TL without the massive userbase, again slightly more difficult to get an invite than demonoid etc.
MUSIC:
all depends on waht kind of music you want. STMUSIC is a great all round way to go, or maybe libble for indie, or TranceRoute/elektronik for trance or anything like it. But the the two big ones are what.cd and waffles.fm (and e****) but as far as I know, they all specialise in FLAC music (its a FreeLosslessAudioCodec)-Correct me if im wrong) and what only allow that and so do e**** so if you dont whnt that then not your place to go.
Films:
Goem is a great site, with alot of freeleech stuff on the site, they change the freeleech area every week.
There are a few others but your not going to get them without some proofs so Ill leave them out.

Theres so many different types out there, that just by searching through these forums you can find them. Just remember the golden rule is to keep seeding back what you take to at least a 1:1 ratio.
Then theres the topsites/ "Topsites"
Theyre what everyone wants, and where everyone wants to be-(I know these arent all top level but still, IM jsut trying to give him a general idea)
FTN, FTWR, PTN, E****, UK*, SCC, ScT and theres many more that dont allow being named. Just remember, be nice and dont trade :D

[jbloggs]

Out of curiosity, What exactly did you not like about usenet?

[fusion27]

mabye the fact that you have to pay? just a guess? yea why didn't u like it? speeds are amazing for usenet

[Twolf13]

Thanks No Bother for the extra advice.

I am getting more comfortable with usenet and have lined up some old classics i found. and even burned a couple disks. My biggest prob is figuring how to search...and what groups to search. getting better and a little more comfortable, but i haven't yet found the selection that you have at the trackers, but as I said, I have just started with usenet and just scratched the surface I think..the speed is mindboggling....figure to use a combo of usenet and trackers maybe...the best of both worlds.....thanks..t

any advice on a better way to search for movies or whatever on usenet? the old classics are all i have been able to find..not into the porn stuff..but would appreciate suggestions on how to better my search techniques, in searching for specific things, instead of dvd in the title of all groups...thanks..t

[Twolf13]

Still trying Usenet for what it's worth..pleased when it works, but frustrating ....can't run utorrent and usenet together, as utorrent changes my ip a lot so i get the max simutaneous connections from same server error in grabit. When I turned utorrent off, all ran fine....but today no utorrent ran at all and still getting that error. Have tried with bridged modem to linksys and non bridged(bridged, i am totally connectable in untorrent..no modem firewall)..t

[zetah]

I use limwire

[tino420]

Need help! So I'm new to usenet (coming from BT & rapidshare). I have signed up with astraweb and using Alt.Binz 0.28.2 So far I did some research and understood only the basic for using newsgroup but I can't seem to search for what I'm looking for (specific movies, HD). Maybe I need tutorial for alt.Binz reader or if someone can help me with how to do movies search. Thx and be gentle bcus I'm new to this.

[jbloggs]

You will get much better response if you post in the NewsGroup section. Here are a few links to help you

http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-newsgroups-79/t-newsgroupusenet-guide-336733

http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-newsgroups-79/t-sites-usefull-usenet-users-333238

http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-newsgroups-79/