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basilhaydens
01-29-2009, 04:11 PM
Once upon a time, my username here was dunson. I signed up hoping to find an invite to a private torrent site after exploring bitsoup for a while. I wanted a better site with nicer looks. I also knew I wanted Trancetraffic.

SO I came here and began posting, acting as nice and funny as possible to make a good impression.

I got in everywhere. iTS, SCT, FTN, FSC, etc. but never getting in TT. I felt forced to trade. So I did. And it worked very easily.

Then I realized, after my wife pointed it out, that all of it was really lame. I thought about the time I spent here, posting. The time I spent at sites, etc. And I left most of them. I gave away a bunch of accounts. I used dupe accounts here to screen people to see who was really a trader. This got me banned here at FST.

But I was curious to see how it would work if I wasn't such a nice guy. So I kept coming back. I've had 20+ accounts probably and most have been banned thanks to the great mods here, Skizo & Detale especially. This one staff allowed out of kindness. But I'm done with torrents now. I've been a usenet addict for a few months now and I enjoy the ability to leech all I want for a few bucks and not have to get involved with communities or anything like that.

Ah but there is a moral. The point of this post is to say that I've gamed the system both ways. I came here as a nice guy. It was easy to collect invites, for the most part. I probably would have even gotten TT after a while longer, especially since a few weeks later they had some big invite waves...

Now, as a trader, it is very difficult to get invites. Most people who respond to offers are sketchy. They have a handful of posts and use very few words. They often have a minimal understanding of english. Often there offers are absolutely horrible.

I'm longwinded, but I hope my story is educational. If you just go about this site as though it were a forum, chatting about your interests or the thread's question, and don't pay attention to invites, then when you want something, post a nice request that is realistic and well thought out. Or respond to a giveaway, that's even better. Try and try and try. But don't take the shortcut of trading.

I managed through trading and creating dupe accounts to get several accounts at many sites...from what/waffles to pedros to scc, to various others, but it is very hard to get beyond that point and get into the smaller, more private trackers that keep invites close to the chest.

Don't accept every site, not even out of curiosity or even just a few well regarded ones. For example, FSC was a huge disappointment for me. PTN, SCL & iTS turned out to be one too. Focus on a few you want and wait patiently for the opportunity to arise. Trust the older members that say most sites offer the same stuff. Even the community trackers are basically the same thing, with the same people. There are a few specialty sites, for dvds, flac, magic, whatever, that may be worth having, but once you find a general site you like and can use well, focus on that. Don't get a seedbox and overseed. Be reasonable and be a good member of the community, FST and a few trackers you call home. That's my advice.

For what it's worth, I still check FTN sometimes to see what movies are released, but other than that one most of the nice accounts I gaveaway or traded are now banned. Also, I still have my TT account, huge buffer, but hardly use it in the end because my musical tastes have evolved.

I violated the trust of users here and for that I'm sorry.

I got frustrated with my habit the first time around and felt disappointed that all the trackers were nothing special and I could've been fine with just BitSoup. The other accounts were really for the purpose of studying how FST and the Bittorrent world works. It was informal, and it was against FST rules, but I wanted to see how it works for traders.

I hope this message reaches some of you guys. I really hope the mods don't delete it promptly and I'd like to have an opportunity to respond for a few days, but then feel free to ip ban me.

vic
01-29-2009, 04:15 PM
Great post, i hope the fst users learn something from your story.

Albo Da Kid
01-29-2009, 04:21 PM
In my point of view, most users in here are obsessed with a few trackers, and they'll do anything to get in. That means sucking up, wasting countless hours building their reputation up, Trading, whoring for invites etc....
Now if everyone had somebody like your wife to point out that this is all a waste of time, you wouldn't have to write this post.
Anyway I hope a few airheads in here learned a few things from your experience.

The_Martinator
01-29-2009, 04:30 PM
Wow, nice read. I never thought of trading myself as it had just gotten the bad rep as I was joining Btforums ( half a year before I joined this one). Before that I was an open signups guy (btw, RevoTT is all I ever needed for a year). I guess you could say we always want what we can't get. I basically have everything I need except some elite trackers. I probably don't need them, but I would still like to check them out. Then I'd probably be telling people that they don't need them. I'm only human.

Btw, Albo, why are Trackers>Usenet? (why you don't like community ones I already know).

The Wanderer
01-29-2009, 04:30 PM
I'm longwinded, but I hope my story is educational. If you just go about this site as though it were a forum, chatting about your interests or the thread's question, and don't pay attention to invites, then when you want something, post a nice request that is realistic and well thought out. Or respond to a giveaway, that's even better. Try and try and try. But don't take the shortcut of trading.

Don't accept every site, not even out of curiosity or even just a few well regarded ones. For example, FSC was a huge disappointment for me. PTN, SCL & iTS turned out to be one too. Focus on a few you want and wait patiently for the opportunity to arise.



Couldn't agree more with this part of your post. And I want to say that is actually refreshing to see this kind of honesty here at FST. Very mature post, indeed.

Detale
01-29-2009, 04:32 PM
Well said and I hope some poeple take this story and learn from it.

jasperr
01-29-2009, 05:03 PM
This was well said indeed...

I remember you dunson ... and i know why you mentioned some sites in particular.. although your correct on many things in your post... i think, it should be mentioned that he ended up disappointed with the sites named because he was banned from them for trading, if i remember correctly.. so there may be some bitterness there .. i dunno.. but, good to see you found you nitche. i did enjoy talking with ya..

dragoi92
01-29-2009, 05:11 PM
many member can learn from u and some other not.

basilhaydens
01-29-2009, 05:13 PM
Thanks for the chance to tell my story. I feel bad for anyone that may have been affected by my actions.

To be clear. I was not banned at most of these sites for trading. I felt that all I needed was FTN & TT, so I gave away most of the others. iTS I asked to be disabled, check with benchez. I was disappointed that the tracker had so many xvids and by the way too slow growth (I invited 10 or so good people there, so I tried...).

The majority of sites are not that different. I must say that the only site I've never been disappointed in is FTN. They do it right. Small, but active torrenters, great download speeds and NO RATIO. This is the way to be.

Things I have traded are 1 SCT invite (for TT) and 1 account (for Pedros, but really just to get it off my hands, since I never used that Pedros account), 1 HDbits account and 1 SCC account.
To compare, I gaveaway 2 SCT invites for nothing (I donate a lot) and FSC was given for free as well (to a bad choice, who begged me). I gaveaway 3+ HDBits invites and my lil bro got the other SCC account.
Oh yeah, I also traded my original Pedros account for a COD2 key, which I barely used but found the other day.
Everything else was given away, pruned for inactivity and many others are still in my possession. Full disclosure. :)

benficao
01-29-2009, 05:18 PM
Trading is bad, and collecting is for thoese whit notting else to do whit their lives.

Great post, maybe ppl, whit see, that in the end, its all the same, more or less, and the foruns, all end up, on the boob, and ass, and chick next door thread.

SaviouR
01-29-2009, 05:39 PM
this place is probably the last place to find a user admitting his/her guilt/true feelings so kudos that your conscious is clear after sharing with the users here .

most of the ppl are busy sucking off each other , double faced , whining about others/traders etc to gain some reputation . and why they do this ?? just to get in some rare site ......

if someone wants to trade its entirely his choice . the admins of respective sites know what is needed for their site and its their lookout . the problem is in this forum , everybody is just busy pointing out each other mistakes , and giving speeches of how this-that is bad for the torrent "community" .

unfortunately the ppl who are new are forced to pick one of these groups instead of being themselves which leads all these problems . they are confused whether they should be in "anti-Trader"(?!?) group to gain into rare sites or be a trader and gain them quickly . its basically upto to you what you want to do , dont get carried away by the fools blabbering here all day .

go with your instincts of what you may feel is right . Just be yourself , fuck the haters

basilhaydens
01-29-2009, 05:40 PM
I realized that I could find some threads from the past that might help make my case. And I need to make some final apologies.

Posts that make people laugh can help you stand out:
http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bittorrent-invite-giveaways-and-requests-90/t-sctftnits-staffers-invite-giveaway-287990

Successful requests for your example
http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bittorrent-invite-giveaways-and-requests-90/t-looking-get-lost-lossless-tunes-291443
&
http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bittorrent-invite-giveaways-and-requests-90/t-swm-seeks-ftn-4-long-term-relationship-294398
Oddly, the FTN one was actually a joke during a wave of requests. I didn't actually want it, but it turns out that's the one I like best. Weird how life works.

I'd like to apologize to a few people directly:

SgtMajor: you were right about being patient. Too bad you don't hang around here much anymore, because you preach the truth.
Cabalo: you trusted me and hopefully you can trust others who deserve it.
Funkin: I traded the account you invited me too and you are a really nice guy, so I've always felt bad about that. You're one of the most underrated people here. Keep it up.
& FatCat: You really really trusted me and I disrespected you...sorry bro.

@ Cabalo: this apology was here just before you posted btw.

Cabalo
01-29-2009, 05:44 PM
I hope you do know i hold a grudge against you, for violating my trust.
and you owe me an apologize.

The_Martinator
01-29-2009, 05:53 PM
I hope you do know i hold a grudge against you, for violating my trust.
and you owe me an apology.

There, I've corrected your grammar. :D

Cabalo
01-29-2009, 06:17 PM
I hope you do know i hold a grudge against you, for violating my trust.
and you owe me an apology.

There, I've corrected your grammar. :D
another useless post from you, just as expected. feel free to correct my next post, as my home grammar monkey went on vacations.

@dunson, i suppose saying i appreciate your honesty would be way out of context here, after what you did. but you serve as an example, a bad one, as no one is to be trusted around here. this is what this ... "community" has to learn from your post.
i'm sorry but i will not be one of those praising your attitude. it would make me look hypocrite towards FST, and i am still one of the few that try to show some respect for this place, despite everything.

IdolEyes787
01-29-2009, 06:22 PM
Three points

If you are looking for absolution I suggest the nearest church.
All your post proves is that it's not a good idea to trust anyone here.
Rhetorical question :at what point do you start believing (the motives) of a(self-professed) liar?

Now since you chose to abuse people's goodwill for personal gain feck off.

Villalltheway
01-29-2009, 06:23 PM
one question, how come he is still allowed an account here after being such a bad member.

The_Martinator
01-29-2009, 06:23 PM
Hey you did it to me, remember? Just that you actually wanted to change the meaning of my post. (btw, I still haven't made a request)
Nice that you try to show respect to this place though. Is that by bashing everyone. Tbh, not all your posts are bashing, some are really useful ones (like the one with how to set up your OS to improve your p2p speed). Still more than half are.

On topic: Trading is bad. Period. there may be some honest traders, most aren't however.

lysine
01-29-2009, 06:37 PM
are you the user referred to in this post?
http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bittorrent-43/t-i-want-thank-valuable-member-fst-329624

Cabalo
01-29-2009, 06:38 PM
one question, how come he is still allowed an account here after being such a bad member.

The question goes beyond that.
the real question is: how was he allowed to have so many accounts here. i knew about this some time ago, when i asked a staff member here WTF happened to dunson. he told me without details that he had dupe accounts and was involved in some sort of scamming attempts.

if anything, this thread serves only one purpose: if trust is to be restored at this place, there must be an iron fist and active pursuing dupe accounts. I've seen Detale doing that lately, but i've sometimes the feeling he is alone rowing against the tide. That scum has to be erradicated once and for all.

I'll keep inviting members from this forum to some of those wanted trackers many talk of, but it will never be someone that approaches me or comes "befriend" me with second intentions. i learned a lesson from you.

As Sun-Tzu said : trust is a weakness.


are you the user referred to in this post?
http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bittorrent-43/t-i-want-thank-valuable-member-fst-329624

no, it's another one. AFAIK that one was egyptian and dunson is US born.

basilhaydens
01-29-2009, 06:43 PM
I appreciate the realism from Cabalo & IdolEyes. I'm not seeking anything, just want to tell my story and apologize. I tried doing it a while back, but that was never allowed to post and acct was banned immediately.

I must insist that I did not scam nor attempt to scam anyone. I really don't know what that was about, but I think Skizo assume I was doing something fishy with dupe accounts. I broke a bunch of rules, but never scammed anyone.

Villalltheway
01-29-2009, 06:47 PM
So whats the lesson here, we can cheat scam people and come back here with another account, and just say sorry.

ben99
01-29-2009, 06:52 PM
why arent you banned from ftn like you should be...

Cabalo
01-29-2009, 06:56 PM
he fooled brandon too...
i suppose soon someone will spread the news at FTN and TT.

Albo Da Kid
01-29-2009, 06:57 PM
Wow earlier I posted without entirely reading all your post. 20+ dupe accounts? And you're going to tell us that you didn't try and scam anyone?? If you wanted to see who was a trader or not, you didn't need that many accounts. There was definitely something fishy going on here.

The only thing out of your post that I found useful, was the message that you were giving to the level hunters. (chasing is useless and a waste of time). The rest of the post just made me mad, that you violated all of these user's trusts, and you went unpunished. I'm sure it made them even more mad also.

Like IdolEyes said..If you're looking for forgiveness, go find a priest or something. By apologizing in this manner, youre only insulting these guys even more.

Edit: Yea why isn't he banned from these trackers?? Ftn,fsc et.... He shouldn't even be given a second chance here in FST.

basilhaydens
01-29-2009, 07:03 PM
Go get me banned at any site you want if you wish to. I have no problems with the consequences.

Most of those accounts were attempts to come back and make it to the 30 days to try to trade. The dupe accounts at the time were for fear that I'd be outed as a trader under "dunson" so I wouldn't make trades by that name.

I just want to tell my story, nothing wrong there. I'll be gone really soon.

Albo Da Kid
01-29-2009, 07:09 PM
I just want to tell my story, nothing wrong there. I'll be gone really soon.

...gone to another dupe you mean.
And you don't need 20+ accounts to trade. In your case 2 or 3 should have been enough.
You've came this far. Why don't you go ahead and tell the whole truth.

basilhaydens
01-29-2009, 07:13 PM
You're jumping to conclusions. Most importantly, not all accounts were held simultaneously. These were held 2-3 tops at a time over the last 6 months or more. They probably only number a dozen or so, I haven't actually counted.

IdolEyes787
01-29-2009, 07:27 PM
SgtMajor: you were right about being patient. Too bad you don't hang around here much anymore, because you preach the truth.





SgtMajor is a name I wouldn't use aroundme to get any sympathy .He doesn't just not" hang around here" anymore he's seems to hypocritically washed his hands of the place since it has seemed to serve it's purpose.
I only say this because I needed to contact him over something and you would have thought that I mentioned a child porn site or something.
Truth bs just another fake persona like your's.
Give me an honest simpleton over a disingenuous intellect any day.

basilhaydens
01-29-2009, 07:31 PM
Again, I don't want sympathy. He was a nice guy to me, very helpful, and advised me to be patient, but I wasn't. So I apologized here.

This thread was not started with any ulterior motives. I don't want any invites anywhere or to get my accounts back. I don't want sympathy or respect or forgiveness. I just realized this morning I'm wasting my time trading for site I don't even use, because I was trying to see how it would work as a trader, rather than a nice guy. I realized I just wanted to give it all up, apologize and tell my story, then move on. Simple.

NippleCake
01-29-2009, 07:41 PM
your post is complete and utter win, many many people who have read this (including myself) will have learnt something, no matter how small it is. have a good time on usenet o/

Villalltheway
01-29-2009, 07:44 PM
your post is complete and utter win, many many people who have read this (including myself) will have learnt something, no matter how small it is. have a good time on usenet o/


Yea u have learnt to bullshit be fake and u can get what u want by playing people as fools.

brightsid
01-29-2009, 07:45 PM
Then I realized, after my wife pointed it out, that all of it was really lame
If you have kids, a dog, a couple of girlfriends and you still manage to maintain all these accounts I'd really like to know your daily schedule :w00t:

The perfect example :)

pone44
01-29-2009, 07:52 PM
Is real cool- being honest. :)

Good that you changed up and do not do that anymore.

Hope others will see this and make honest request's...

NippleCake
01-29-2009, 08:00 PM
your post is complete and utter win, many many people who have read this (including myself) will have learnt something, no matter how small it is. have a good time on usenet o/


Yea u have learnt to bullshit be fake and u can get what u want by playing people as fools.

are you aiming an attack at me or making a gernal example. i do hope it is the latter

Villalltheway
01-29-2009, 08:07 PM
Yea u have learnt to bullshit be fake and u can get what u want by playing people as fools.

are you aiming an attack at me or making a gernal example. i do hope it is the latter

na not just u but everyone, but i do find it a bit purplexing that u think his post is a utter win.

Albo Da Kid
01-29-2009, 08:09 PM
get what u want by playing people as fools.

..as fools...LOL That made me laugh. Fools should be taken advantage off. it'n not a new thing. But users like Funkin, Cabalo Etc.. deserve some respect at least because they are putting their reputation in line for you. You can't just get what you want, fuk them over, then come back here after some time and apologize.

Although I'm happy the OP realized that all this is worthless this morning. i woke up one mornign and realized this also, but instead of giving up all my accounts, I decided to hang around a little more and use this BT thing to kill some time when I'm home and bored.

KushBlow
01-29-2009, 08:13 PM
Well it's good that you're honest but it seems to be you're a bit condoscendent posting your successful REQ threads and all.

Also your story seems a bit too much, like you're admitting to murder or something. I know it's 'just trading' but since you acknowledge it like it's a real life mistake and not the internet I am doing the same, no disrespect intended.

I guess many people will hate you now, I'll be neutral like always and I wish you luck in your future endeavors.

puckface
01-29-2009, 08:14 PM
.....and still has an account. Oh how the rules apply to some people and not to others. Gotta love it.

That1Guy
01-29-2009, 08:16 PM
I remember talking to you i believe (different name). I even remember I actually considered inviting you to a tracker I believe. I think a buddy of mine invited you before I had thought it through...

My words to you.... go away. I wont argue that most the shit that goes down here is BS. But your complete disrespect reaches far beyond fst.

enjoy ur newsgroups.

your wife was right though (you are lame).

Spanky
01-29-2009, 08:19 PM
So which of these many guys are you Dunson, Im really interested to hear your answer. The nice guy Dunson?, or one of the many dodgy aliases that wasnt so nice ?

I was close to inviting you to a site a while ago, even PM'ed sgtmajor asking his opinion. No offence but Im so pleased I didnt go through with it now.

brightsid
01-29-2009, 08:21 PM
Fools should be taken advantage off. it'n not a new thing.

That's the true sharing spirit :frusty:

NippleCake
01-29-2009, 08:26 PM
are you aiming an attack at me or making a gernal example. i do hope it is the latter

na not just u but everyone, but i do find it a bit purplexing that u think his post is a utter win.

i mean win, as in i think its win that he came out, told people his story, did it in a good way and has taught people a lesson from it. :)

That1Guy
01-29-2009, 08:34 PM
na not just u but everyone, but i do find it a bit purplexing that u think his post is a utter win.

i mean win, as in i think its win that he came out, told people his story, did it in a good way and has taught people a lesson from it. :)

If you were affected by his decision to "write" his little "story" you wouldnt think it was so great. Coming out and saying "Im sorry" doesnt necessarily mean it will be excepted (which im not sure if the OP wants or not).

Truth is, its jackasses like this (the OP) that ruin it for others who are trying to get invites. (for all I know u ARE the OP :-P )

Edit: the lesson which can be learned from this is not: trade Vs Nice guy. IMO it is dont trust someone you dont know on the interwebz, which i personally already knew (there was a similar thing happened a while back).

Aliyans
01-29-2009, 08:36 PM
Again, I don't want sympathy. He was a nice guy to me, very helpful, and advised me to be patient, but I wasn't. So I apologized here.

This thread was not started with any ulterior motives. I don't want any invites anywhere or to get my accounts back. I don't want sympathy or respect or forgiveness. I just realized this morning I'm wasting my time trading for site I don't even use, because I was trying to see how it would work as a trader, rather than a nice guy. I realized I just wanted to give it all up, apologize and tell my story, then move on. Simple.
i hope u will never wish to come back here...

Villalltheway
01-29-2009, 08:37 PM
i mean win, as in i think its win that he came out, told people his story, did it in a good way and has taught people a lesson from it. :)

I kind of see where you are coming from, but we are only taking his word for it that he has changed his way, also i think his message is teaching people to be fake and kiss everyones backsides to get what u want. Also he is teaching people there is no real consequence of trading and screwing people over, since he says he still has some of the top trackers, and finaly he is teaching if u get caught trading here and u rep goes down dont worry about it because u can always come back with another account.

Cabalo
01-29-2009, 08:40 PM
na not just u but everyone, but i do find it a bit purplexing that u think his post is a utter win.

i mean win, as in i think its win that he came out, told people his story, did it in a good way and has taught people a lesson from it. :)
hope you will learn your lesson when you request for anything and some random user comes tell you that no one can be trusted around here.
in case you missed it, that's what is at stake in this thread.

xnugx
01-29-2009, 08:41 PM
Good post... Super honest and I appreciate it! I talked to you through PM a few times, and you even helped me out for no reason with an amazing tracker that I didn't even request. You totally proved to me that you were a nice/funny guy that you stated you are in this post. Patience is a virtue in the torrenting world, I know this because I have been doing it for 4 years (filesharing for 9) and still am not a member of a few places that I would like. I have gotten in because of real life friends, and friends made on forums. All I've seen is that trading is a dead end and that waiting around with a dash of luck on the side is your only chance. Being honest is valued around here too, but I'll make sure not to give into the same thing!

Hope all is well man, I appreciated you around regardless. I didn't know any of this, but at least from my experience.

Albo Da Kid
01-29-2009, 08:49 PM
I think this thread should be left open for a couple of members to see what goes one in the bittorrentign scene, and how those who we think we know, we don't actually know shit about them.

Oh andbasilhaydens... expect a PM from xnugx really soon asking if you are thinking of giving away you fsc/ftn accounts to a good member.

basilhaydens
01-29-2009, 08:53 PM
Truth is, its jackasses like this (the OP) that ruin it for others who are trying to get invites.

This is precisely why I posted this. So people will see the difference between the right way and the wrong way.

It was a bit spur of the moment and I jotted down the first post in under 5 minutes after having the inspiration to do so, so I didn't really think it through that well.

What I mean to do is basically say, in short, I was able to get into all these exclusive sites by being myself. Then I realized that collecting these things was silly, since most of them weren't that great or that different at least. Yet I had still never gotten the one invite I sought. So I traded, using a dupe account to cover my reputation.

A little after that, my wife and I had a fight about how frequently I "blogged" here at FST and how much time I spent on torrenting. So I vowed to ease up.

But I've still got my collection of unused accounts, I want them gone, and I feel bad, as though I'm dumping fine scotch down the drain, when another may desire it. So I posted a thread doing a giveaway. Shortly after that, Skizo saw that was a dupe account and banned it, then disabled privileges of "dunson". I then tried to create new accounts, to come back and make up for my misdeeds. All were banned quickly by Skizo's skillful dupe ip checking, i.e. he smelled the rat.

I then had the idea to return as a trader, to see whether it would be more difficult to get into some of those sites, but in the end, I didn't want them, so I just gave away most of those accounts, or asked for them to be disabled. I traded three, but mainly to people I would have given it to, had it not come up in the context of a trade offer. I didn't use anything I got in return. I did it for I don't know, just some sort of shame at how I had spent time collecting all these trackers.

After seeing the benefits of usenet, I started switching to that, and used FTN much less than I had been for months. I decided to try and help people here and I was using this account, when suddenly I wanted to check out some of the torrent sites, TL & Pedros specifically. So I set up trades for them, rather than try and get it for free. I got them both easily, but I have hardly used Pedros and never touched TL, because wait times & ads suck.

I realized today, while thinking of seeking SCT again, just for the sake of doing something over breakfast, that I was being an idiot. I had felt bad for some time for giving away and trading accounts that these nice people had invited me to, but pride and foolishness kept me from making things right before today.

This story unfolded over a year. A year ago, 1/24/08, I had just joined FST. At that time I used Bitsoup, but was unhappy with the size and security and the lack of house & trance. I wanted other places, and sought out info on google, uncovering this site. I was as nice as can be, sought info on seedboxes and all that. Then I wanted to find some sites, so I found TheDVDClub....and on and on as I've said above. But a little over a year ago, I came to FST seeking music for my wife and TT was supposed to be the best. It took me months of building up good will and reputation to then have to trade for it with another member that would appear just as nice as I was. Many of the good members here have pmed me in response to trade offers its alarming.

And now, I will exit stage right and leave my carcass for the dogs who take this all too seriously. But first, I'd like to apologize to those I've wronged, thank those who've helped me and urge those who are new to follow this advice:

Find a good tracker that meets your basic wants and just use it, download, say thank you, seed, post in the forums. And if you can afford a seedbox, don't, just donate to the tracker. (That server is more important than your seedbox.) If you have diverse interests, here is a good place to research trackers that might benefit you, and obtain invites to them through giveaways and requests. Always remember to return the favor. And above all, always remember that you'd be just fine with much less than what you could get your hands on.

Goodbye.

DV8type
01-29-2009, 09:03 PM
Nice post. i hope it does sway a few traders to change there ways. I also hope it can be used as an example for others as to why staffers and other are very guarded with invites as you never know who your dealing with.

benficao
01-29-2009, 09:03 PM
"But I've still got my collection of unused accounts
I then had the idea to return as a trader,
I was being an idiot."

Find a good tracker that meets your basic wants and just use it, download, say thank you, seed, post in the forums.


In one entire day you only said one thruth. Congrats, for being able to dupe, scam,..., cheat,...,lie,... and brake some thrusts...

You probably need something, no one like you comes here, after all you did, just to say , " im sorry " .

What is it?

Villalltheway
01-29-2009, 09:06 PM
I think everything has been said now, this should be closed.

pharaoh
01-29-2009, 09:07 PM
one question, how come he is still allowed an account here after being such a bad member.

because if all bad members were banned over 25 percent maybe more wouldn't be here. It's funny my wife was just mentioning to me the other day about all the files that pass through me that i don't even use. i get these things so i don't lose my accounts, screw up my ratio or etc. which if you think rationally equals alot of wasted time and for what? when we have newsgroups and etc. The way people are all over torrent sites it's just a matter of time before we have to evolve or die. Like the ole days of napster, irc, and ftp. they all have mostly gone to hell. i have a friend that's a sysop of a site. i asked him what exactly happens to the money donated he said it helps support the site. so i asked do ops get some of the money? of course they do, he said but they won't admit it. of course they should get some money for all there time and hard work they do. but where do you draw the line. i doubt mods see money, i hear some places give seedbox access to them but this is unverified. i donate money to a couple of trackers that i enjoy. but it's like giving money to a bum you never know what really happens to it. but i think the problem is bigger than that. i wish i was as smart as your wife 15 years ago. i may have actually watched my kids grow up. and to think mostly everything i have put years into could be lost with the closings of a few sites really sucks.
but i will continue to use torrent sites. i have put to much into them to give it up. i have most of everything i need. so i mainly hang out here to check out a few newer sites and the information here is great. i use to give out invites but some were abused. I almost lost invites due to some dumbass. i ask for lower level invites to trackers because i have everything that's really a tracker and not a community above that. with no luck. so it's simple why risk giving away invites to ftn or bitmetv. when you can't even get a free invite to trancetraffic.
it's funny though i hear bad things about traders. they're bad why? because they want something in return? it's obvious most of you aren't from america. the ole trading is a security risk is funny as hell. mentioning the sites name in any way shape or form is a security risk. i like how people implement rules they like and over look the others.

IdolEyes787
01-29-2009, 10:51 PM
Good post... Super honest and I appreciate it! I talked to you through PM a few times, and you even helped me out for no reason with an amazing tracker that I didn't even request. You totally proved to me that you were a nice/funny guy that you stated you are in this post.

Obviously you didn't read the OP very closely.




SO I came here and began posting, acting as nice and funny as possible to make a good impression.

mrnobody
01-29-2009, 10:52 PM
you know, the day you made your TT request, i had a pm from some old fst 'trusted' member asking if i could invite you....erm i'm prolly being mean by saying that now.

anyway, nice to hear your part and gl with usenet.

FACE_TO_FACE
01-29-2009, 11:01 PM
nice post, experience is a important think...

basilhaydens
01-29-2009, 11:13 PM
Obviously you didn't read the OP very closely.




SO I came here and began posting, acting as nice and funny as possible to make a good impression.



Don't misinterpret that to mean I was acting fake. I didn't mean to imply that. That's all I can say now, because I'm sure you're all justifiably skeptical.

Thanks for the info squirr3l, I do wonder why that request never came through, but I'm guessing you said no for some reason.

No matter now.

I would really like to see why Skizo thought I was a scammer...but other than that, I don't want anything here.

Aerozin
01-29-2009, 11:16 PM
i used to be in 3000000000 trackers and after a while i realized how unnecessary it was.
today im happy with the 2 accounts that left me after i travel (and get most of the accounts disabled due to inactivity) , sct and revott

NippleCake
01-29-2009, 11:31 PM
i mean win, as in i think its win that he came out, told people his story, did it in a good way and has taught people a lesson from it. :)
hope you will learn your lesson when you request for anything and some random user comes tell you that no one can be trusted around here.
in case you missed it, that's what is at stake in this thread.

offtopic: no requests needed cabalo :happy:


and basil i would imagine skizo thinks your a scammer due to multiple accounts? If i was an admin here it would be the first conclusion i would jump to!

That1Guy
01-29-2009, 11:32 PM
Thanks for the info squirr3l, I do wonder why that request never came through, but I'm guessing you said no for some reason.


I think that squirrels can smell rats?




No matter now.

I would really like to see why Skizo thought I was a scammer...but other than that, I don't want anything here.

why wouldn't he, why should anyone believe this BS now? Maybe this is some sort of "experiment" you have set up to occupy the time u obviously have to much of.

mrnobody
01-29-2009, 11:37 PM
Thanks for the info squirr3l, I do wonder why that request never came through, but I'm guessing you said no for some reason.


several reasons actually

but let's just say your actions and instant banage at several trackers did not surprise me...

/me turns down the mean-0-meter.

basilhaydens
01-30-2009, 12:06 AM
I'm scrambling my password now, so you will hear from me no longer. I won't come back, but feel free to make an attempt at humor. Oh yeah, I'll have to scramble that gmail account too. I didn't even remember that one. :/

Goodbye FST.

Albo Da Kid
01-30-2009, 12:09 AM
noooo don't leave before giving away your accounts to xnugx...

cinephilia
01-30-2009, 12:17 AM
I was trying to see how it would work as a trader
seems your (misplaced) pride prevent you from admitting that you let trading won out over you...
you played the game > you lost, and now you're trying to make us believe that you had the situation under control, that it was just to see "how it work" ?
lol...

xnugx
01-30-2009, 01:30 AM
I was trying to see how it would work as a trader
seems your (misplaced) pride prevent you from admitting that you let trading won out over you...
you played the game > you lost, and now you're trying to make us believe that you had the situation under control, that it was just to see "how it work" ?
lol...

Man you take all this pretty seriously don't you.. trading isn't some powerful force that we all cannot resist inside of us. You make it sound like Adam and Even in the garden or something


noooo don't leave before giving away your accounts to xnugx...

I think the best part about leaving FST would be never hearing from you again, so I suppose that I envy him in just one way.


Obviously you didn't read the OP very closely.




SO I came here and began posting, acting as nice and funny as possible to make a good impression.



Obviously? I'm not looking for trivial excuses to undermine the validity of his post, I was simply backing him up--he posted a lot of truth. The post was rather unambiguous.

Why do the majority of people sit here and nitpick the crap out of what everybody says and troll around looking to make computer jocks laugh at them (albo)? I all the constructive posts have been heard out at this point, hope somebody closes this soon... or sticky's it for good reference.

Albo Da Kid
01-30-2009, 01:45 AM
computer jock trying to make people laugh at them??? LOL I think you just described yourself... http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bittorrent-invite-giveaways-and-requests-90/t-403-305295

fatcat69
01-30-2009, 01:53 AM
K now for the other side of the story...

everyone here knows me...k good.


Dunson...you know me damn well. Wanna know how Dunson knows me? Ill explain

Way back when...when I was actively recruiting for iTS (9 months ago...maybe more), I found you here on FST. You were a noob. Your best tracker was bitsoup I believe at the time.

I talked to you, saw potential...so I invited you to iTS. You did good there, so I invited you to ScL. Did good there too. So I then, when invites were CLOSED at fsc...called in a favor and had an account made for you. Yes, flat out made for you, while the rest of the world was screaming why invites were closed...I knew you were a good user and was like "XXXXXXXXXX this guy is legit, he will contribute." And you did, you told me over and over again you liked FSC and ScL and iTS.

I then went away for 6 months, due to personal stuff...come back to see you have been banned everywhere...and heard all the stories you were screaming to other people about what happened.

The truth...you just got sucked into the game, you got greedy...thinking grass was greener here or there...you started lying to people...and now you are lying more for attention.

If I was making this up, then why would you be sitting here posting this bullsh*t. Cmon man, have some dignity.

When I read the OP, all I see is someone who is pissed they got caught and that they are banned everyone. A greedy little kid who just is upset and wants attention.

Well, you got your attention...and now everyone sees that you are just an attention whore.

Have fun posting about this or that...I know you better then anyone else in here...and Im disappointed that you turned out in this manor.

I cant believe Im going to post this pick to one of my ex-good friends of the torrent community...but you deserve it.

Go whine like a little baby somewhere else with your lies...we already have enough of that at FST.

Here is what you need kid.

http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2008/08/spanking.jpg

Villalltheway
01-30-2009, 01:55 AM
This thread is starting to piss me off with all these people seeming to think this guy is like some great guy because he was honest, he is the kind of person that ruins things for everyone. He is the reason people like me and other think twice of sharing great trackers that we have with people.

fatcat69
01-30-2009, 01:57 AM
This thread is starting to piss me off with all these people seeming to think this guy is like some great guy because he was honest, he is the kind of person that ruins things for everyone. He is the reason people like me and other think twice of sharing great trackers that we have with people.


People are just believing his little attention whoring ways. lol

I just laugh at noobs like this.


Sometimes ...kids get greedy and this happens...hopefully in real life he can apply this lesson and stop looking for attention from strangers on the internet. :lol::lol::lol:

pharaoh
01-30-2009, 01:59 AM
sounds like you had it made at one time under the wings of fatcat. you had what most would dream of happening to them and you screwed it up! which i'm sure will make fatcat think twice before he does such a thing again or if he will at all.

Albo Da Kid
01-30-2009, 02:02 AM
The truth...you just got sucked into the game, you got greedy...thinking grass was greener here or there...you started lying to people...and now you are lying more for attention.


The thing is that he was lying all along. You just couldn't see it because you had established your trust in him.
Since the beginning his motives were to portray himself as this cool harmless guy who is in love with that community thing, and that worked but he got tired of acting like a whore so he decided to do whatever he wanted to. He started trading, making dupe accounts, playing the system etc.... Basically he started to show who he really was after that long amount of time hiding into that "good trustful guy" shell.

If we learned anything from this post is not to trust suckups and all the "buddy-buddy all i want to do is share and interact with my friends...ps. i hate trading" types.

Villalltheway
01-30-2009, 02:05 AM
People are just believing his little attention whoring ways. lol



Totally agree there was no need for him making this thread, he could of just kept his mouth shut and left. But no he has to come on here make this thread for all these morons to praise him and teach them how to cheat and scam people.

fatcat69
01-30-2009, 02:06 AM
sounds like you had it made at one time under the wings of fatcat. you had what most would dream of happening to them and you screwed it up! which i'm sure will make fatcat think twice before he does such a thing again or if he will at all.


When I found that out (after coming back from 6 month absence), I stopped recruiting for any and all sites. I will not invite people anywhere except for my close friends now who ive known for a year plus. Or for people they recommend.

I gave this kid every tracker he wanted, when he asked for it...I gave it to him. lol

Too bad....sometimes you think you know someone well enough then they betray you like so. :ermm::ermm::ermm:

I actually looked for him the second I came back online to find a few sysops pm'ing me to welcome me back and tell me what had happened after I asked...if anything I felt betrayed and annoyed...bc I honestly didnt understand why someone who had every tracker and had good friends on trackers (That1guy can atest...) would do something like this....

oh well. Another one bits the dust.:lol::lol::lol:

Villalltheway
01-30-2009, 02:10 AM
sounds like you had it made at one time under the wings of fatcat. you had what most would dream of happening to them and you screwed it up! which i'm sure will make fatcat think twice before he does such a thing again or if he will at all.


When I found that out (after coming back from 6 month absence), I stopped recruiting for any and all sites. I will not invite people anywhere except for my close friends now who ive known for a year plus. Or for people they recommend.

I gave this kid every tracker he wanted, when he asked for it...I gave it to him. lol

Too bad....sometimes you think you know someone well enough then they betray you like so. :ermm::ermm::ermm:

I actually looked for him the second I came back online to find a few sysops pm'ing me to welcome me back and tell me what had happened after I asked...if anything I felt betrayed and annoyed...bc I honestly didnt understand why someone who had every tracker and had good friends on trackers (That1guy can atest...) would do something like this....

oh well. Another one bits the dust.:lol::lol::lol:

Exactly for all you idiots praising this idiot, look how he has made fatcat, u never know fatcat could of been the person who took u under his wing and introduced u to great sites, but thats not gonna happen now is it.

fatcat69
01-30-2009, 02:15 AM
The truth...you just got sucked into the game, you got greedy...thinking grass was greener here or there...you started lying to people...and now you are lying more for attention.


The thing is that he was lying all along. You just couldn't see it because you had established your trust in him.
Since the beginning his motives were to portray himself as this cool harmless guy who is in love with that community thing, and that worked but he got tired of acting like a whore so he decided to do whatever he wanted to. He started trading, making dupe accounts, playing the system etc.... Basically he started to show who he really was after that long amount of time hiding into that "good trustful guy" shell.

If we learned anything from this post is not to trust suckups and all the "buddy-buddy all i want to do is share and interact with my friends...ps. i hate trading" types.


Na he became that way after spending time at FST and after I left and went mia. He just lost his hookup thats all and became greedy..

He is making all that shit up above for attention and to look bad ass to a point...he ..in reality...is just a lonely college kid who was new to private torrents outside of bitsoup.

Before I invite people to my good trackers...I trace their ips that they use to download with and browse sites...I hit up all my friends and just have them verify which Ips...if people use multiple or servers to browse sites...they dont get invited. He used home addresses and his university ip...downloaded to the same ip ...browsed all sites with same ips. He became a trader after I left...and was noticed damn fast at secure trackers. :lol::lol::lol: Just like all traders are. :whistling

tbh if you guys want the best trackers for speeds and pretimes...SCC is the best for that ;-)

The only way you will fit into the communties of these other trackers is if you are already friends with the people inside them..if you are friends with them...you will get an invite. Plain as that. It really isnt that crazy guys.

If you want to here it from someone experienced...here is my opinon on torrents:


If you are downloading and want pretimes....there is nothing that TL/Revtt/SCC dont have in those regards.

If you are on a site that you are active in the forums...and like it there...stay there. The grass isnt any greener anywhere else because you are already accepted into that community.


Don't play the damn ranking game, if you get all your content at a good speed...then you should be happy...bc in the end...you arent here to make epals or meet your e-soulmate...you are there to download...and if one tracker already meets your needs...why risk trading to get somewhere else. If you are active and a good user somewhere...you will be noticed and your friends will hook you up.

Its as simple as that...Just be active, be nice, and have fun...dont do it for bragging rights...do it because you are having fun and getting content. :happy:


Here are the trackers I was active on the most: SCC/TL/HDbits/Bitme/revtt/waffles

I am not really as active as I used to be due to personal reasons....but in honesty those 6 will give you everything you need on the net content wise

The only reason I posted in this thread is because a friend asked if I had read what the op wrote...and I didnt so he linked me bc he knew id have a say in it.

pro267
01-30-2009, 02:17 AM
So Dunson, is your conscience all clear now? That was some catharsis, wasn't it.

You can safely go back now to your RL, where you can smile to people and act all nice and funny to gain their trust. At then end of the day, I pity you. You'll probably have to live with that fundamentaly flawed, treacherous character of yours for the rest of your life.

Albo Da Kid
01-30-2009, 02:27 AM
College kid?? He was talking about getting into arguments with his wife etc... Don't tell me that was a lie too lol

Edit:

You did put faith in me and helped me out a lot. But I never asked for anything, so don't put it like that. I never asked for FSC in particular
I'm guessing it was one of those situations where you befriend him and get to know him well. You never ask for anything but you set it up for him to ask you, and then you gladly accept.
It's not hard to see what your intentions were, so there's no need to hide them by saying "I never asked you"...You damn sure were looking for them though

CoD
01-30-2009, 02:27 AM
I have already scrambled that pass on basilhaydens and only resort to this account to post in reply to fatcat. He is the one who brought me into this whole thing.

You did put faith in me and helped me out a lot. But I never asked for anything, so don't put it like that. I never asked for FSC in particular, and I only accepted because you offered. I didn't like the site at all, there was nothing special and hardly and dvdrs. I did not get sucked into any game or get greedy. I gave it all away. I climbed the ladder and then tore it down behind me.

But I am sorry for disappointing you. Honestly just plain old sorry. I may seem like a dick, but I'm not. I'm the nice guy you folks liked, not some backstabbing trader.

Fact is, I'm not interested in torrents anymore. I'm not here telling anyone anything except for getting the truth out there, because I've heard whispers about what you guys think.

Sorry you guys don't understand and just assume I'm like the rest of the scum. I can sorta see why. I fucked up. I should have never come to FST, and I should not be here now.

fatcat69
01-30-2009, 02:30 AM
Just proves my point...that you are a noob/attention whore dude. The fact that you had to scramble your pass on one account, then you come back on here again to post.

Just walk away bro. Ill have staff here close this thread so you don't have to see anyone posting or crying anymore


This has been settled...Everyone can just drop it and leave it alone.

Dont give him anymore attention...let me end with this joke...which applies to dunson


How many emo's does it take to screw in a light bulb?




none, theyd rather sit in the dark and cry



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That1Guy
01-30-2009, 02:35 AM
and most have been banned thanks to the great mods here, Skizo & Detale especially. This one staff allowed out of kindness.




I have already scrambled that pass on basilhaydens and only resort to this account to post in reply to fatcat.

phail

integral
01-30-2009, 02:35 AM
I have already scrambled that pass on basilhaydens and only resort to this account to post in reply to fatcat. He is the one who brought me into this whole thing.

But I am sorry for disappointing you. Honestly just plain old sorry. I may seem like a dick, but I'm not. I'm the nice guy you folks liked, not some backstabbing trader.


Well you might have to apologize to that guy, since he tends to take the Internet a bit too seriously.. But to the rest of us, you owe no apology. You're just human, and you're proof that tons of elite trackers and forums is just not for everyone.

While some unnamed people will go all out against traders and vow off ever helping anyone again, most people here will understand that you only traded one tracker because you're human.

I for one enjoyed reading your learning experience and I hope Usenet works out for you, I may even consider trying it out myself from your post. I'll also say you should consider continuing to post here if you're allowed, since we need more interesting, casual posters, and less tracker defender samurais.
Good luck in any event.

fatcat69
01-30-2009, 02:37 AM
three points

if you are looking for absolution i suggest the nearest church.
All your post proves is that it's not a good idea to trust anyone here.
Rhetorical question :at what point do you start believing (the motives) of a(self-professed) liar?

Now since you chose to abuse people's goodwill for personal gain feck off.


<3 :)

Detale
01-30-2009, 02:43 AM
SgtMajor is a name I wouldn't use around me to get any sympathy .He doesn't just not" hang around here" anymore he's seems to hypocritically washed his hands of the place since it has seemed to serve it's purpose.
I only say this because I needed to contact him over something and you would have thought that I mentioned a child porn site or something.
Truth bs just another fake persona like your's.
...

LOL yeah Sarge used us now he's too bigtime for this place, sad really. He and I had some good debates.



Give me an honest simpleton over a disingenuous intellect any day.
Right here:thumbsup:

I think thi sis done now.

1000possibleclaws
01-30-2009, 03:57 AM
It's too bad you chose to leave us, but I'm thankful you chose to come clean in the end, and that you posted up a couple reviews we were missing beforehand. If you ever miss this community I'm sure we could get your pass back for you, although most likely with disabled trading and giveaway privs due to your past infractions.

See ya man.