A little advise on building a computer.

[LubTheStaringCat]

This Is the first time I've considered building a computer.

What I want to ask Is I've already got the APEVIA X-Navigator computer case.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811144090
the Power Supply that come with the case Is 500W.

I've just got a new moniter.
http://www.yuraku.com.sg/proddetails.asp?prodid=98&catid=28
The Yuraku 24" LCD Wide Screen

Got the Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115202
A very nice Processor Indeed.

Got the G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Triple Channel
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231223
Things a progresing nicely.

I just bought the Sapphire HD 4670 512MB GDDR4.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102818
http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/video-cards/188-sap4670gddr4
It looks good For an entry level graphics card.

I just bought the ASUS Triton 88 CPU Cooler.
http://uk.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=16&l2=65&l3=0&l4=0&model=2640&modelmenu=1
It's a rather big, but didn't someone say size counts.

Got 2 of the Akasa Quiet 12CM Cool Blue CASE FANS
http://www.akasa.co.uk/akasa_english/spec_page/fans/spec_ak_274cb_4bls.htm
To go with the ASUS Triton 88, It's going to be good folk's.

I just got the Logitech Ultra-Flat Keyboard.
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/keyboards/keyboard/devices/177&cl=gb,en
It'll go nicely with my new system.

I also got the LS1 Laser Mouse
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/mice/devices/4610&cl=gb,en
To go with the Logitech Ultra-Flat Keyboard, both look good.

This Is motherboard I am considering.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131352
Will the power supply that comes with the case be enough for the motherboard mentioned above?

[clocker]

Personally, I wouldn't trust that PSU to power the fan controller much less an entire system.

[LubTheStaringCat]

So are we talking about lets say 1000W, would something like that be enough.

[Broken]

It's not a matter of wattage, and wattage isn't directly related to the motherboard. But instead everything inside the computer that draws power... the CPU, graphics card, RAM, drives.


A good quality 500 watt PSU can power most systems. But a crap no name PSU can fry the entire system and everything in it.

My first impression when I checked your link was that the PSU you have was a piece of crap. But after a quick google (http://www.modthebox.com/review253_1.shtml) it appears to be something decent. I'd use it if I had to.

You don't need a 1000w PSU. If you want to check out how much power your system needs use a psu calculator like this one link (http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp).

[PlayeR]

Get a Thermaltake ToughPower or Corsair for your PSU..

[Mystic]

I also recommend that you go with Corsair for your PSU, OCZ is also another good PSU manufacturer. I'm currently using an older OCZ 520W PSU in my system. I haven't had any problems with it since I bought it. Something like this should be plenty unless you plan on running tri-SLI or something:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006

You could also go with the Corsair HX series if you wanted a modular power supply for less clutter. I only use about a third of the connectors on my PSU. I'd free up a nice amount of space if I could get rid of all my unused wires.

[LubTheStaringCat]

I've been looking through the Corsair PSU range they look good, I suppose I will have read up on the range.
Maybe the 750W or 850W.

[PlayeR]

Hx-620 should be enough I think..

[clocker]

I've been looking through the Corsair PSU range they look good, I suppose I will have read up on the range.
Maybe the 750W or 850W.


Hx-620 should be enough I think..
It's all going to depend on your choice of video card(s).

I've been using the 620's for years now and found it to be excellent but I don't have monster GPUs installed.

Currently, the 620 is powering 4 HDDs, a waterpump, 5 x 120mm fans (and their fanbus/controller), an eVGA 8800GT and the overclocked Q9550 w/ 8GB RAM...all without breaking a sweat.
Careful monitoring of the voltages shows very little variation even under sustained load.

I'm sure there are other good power supplies available...I prefer to recommend stuff that I've actually used myself and, having once found a good product, tend to stick with it till convinced to change.

For good info about PSUs look to JonnyGURU. (http://www.jonnyguru.com/)

[LubTheStaringCat]

I've decided to go with the CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V 2.2
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139009
mainly because If I want to add more than 1 graphics card or other hardware there would be no problems.

[lynx]

Whan you come to the assemble stage, make sure you follow this guide to the letter.

http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-hardware-24/t-how-build-computer-331666

[TinkerBell]

I found that if you buy top quality products you can't go wrong by buying an Alienware pc or if you got the bucks a voodoo. Reason by the time you individually buy each piece the price will be way more. Plus you won't get the sweet towers that come with these systems. Then as time passes upgrade your system as better components come out ex. graphics card. You can't beat the price simply because companies buy thousands of components and get a discount. They pass this discount in a way to the consumer.

[clocker]

I found that if you buy top quality products you can't go wrong by buying an Alienware pc or if you got the bucks a voodoo. Reason by the time you individually buy each piece the price will be way more.
Um,no.

If anything, you pay a giant premium buying an Alienware PC.
I just perused the specs of their "top-of-the-line" gaming machine- for which they're asking $4K (baseline model, no upgrades)- and it could be duplicated at Newegg for @$2,500...for their asking price I could build a significantly better PC.
This "premium" unit does not even come standard with SSDs, which is unforgivable in a flagship machine today.
The only difference would be the case and I think the AW cases have dubious aesthetic value anyway...I'll concede this is a matter of taste however.

If you'd like to post a single Alienware/Voodoo PC and it's specs/ price, I guarantee it can be duplicated- probably bettered- for significantly less money.

[LubTheStaringCat]

You can spend thousands on a system like Alienware or Voodoo, you have an excellent system at the end on the day.
But where Is you're sense of achievement, you didn't build It someone else did.

It may take a while to get all the bits. but I will have built my own system. That Is the point of doing it In the first place.

[clocker]

Oh, I don't know...the whole "sense of achievement" thing is grossly overrated, I think.
In fact, beyond being able to slot in some RAM or maybe add/swap a HDD, there's really little cause for the computer user to know how the unit is constructed.

Most folks can't build their cars or houses and seem to get along just fine.

Fact is, if I could duplicate my PC for less money by buying from Dell or Alienware, I would.
However, inexplicably, when it comes to high-end PCs they charge a decided premium for the components- not to mention make some real boneheaded decisions about configuration.

Basically, they prey on the gullible.

[Bobbius5000]

...Fact is, if I could duplicate my PC for less money by buying from Dell or Alienware, I would.
However, inexplicably, when it comes to high-end PCs they charge a decided premium for the components- not to mention make some real boneheaded decisions about configuration.

Basically, they prey on the gullible.

Nail on the head. :yup:

[clocker]

No, my head is fine.

[Detale]

LOL clocker I get so upset when friends buy pre-built machines without speaking with me first. Is this something I'll ever get over? 99% of the time as you said I could build them a waay better rig for SO much less that the asking price of a pre built. On that 1% chance it costs a few bucks more the HW they get is far superior to that of a dell or gateway.

[clocker]

Most of the time I'd prefer that friends buy a pre-built machine...then it's not my problem when they have issues (which is inevitable).

I like speccing/assembling the hardware but hate dealing with the ignorance of the average user.

In the past few weeks I've gotten several phone calls about the new Comcast Mail Center...like I had anything to do with it or knew any more about it than they do.

Once you build a machine it seems like you're eternally tied to it.

[Bobbius5000]

No, my head is fine.

Please tell me you were being sarcastic... :pinch:

[clocker]

Must I?

[Detale]

Why? His head can't be fine??

[lynx]

I think it's his nails he has problems with.

[tesco]

Most of the time I'd prefer that friends buy a pre-built machine...then it's not my problem when they have issues (which is inevitable).

I like speccing/assembling the hardware but hate dealing with the ignorance of the average user.

In the past few weeks I've gotten several phone calls about the new Comcast Mail Center...like I had anything to do with it or knew any more about it than they do.

Once you build a machine it seems like you're eternally tied to it.
It's the same here.
I built my aunt 2 computers and have to provide her support, but another aunt bought a dell and doesn't bother me at all. :lol:

Plus I used to find that prebuilt computers in the low range worked out cheaper than building your own.

[clocker]

My current cut-off figure is $1000.
Anything less, buy a Dell, dude.

[Detale]

Really? I'll build em for around $400 bucks at the cheapo end. Still betteren a Dell

[SonsOfLiberty]

You can buy a Dell for that too :)

[Detale]

Yes but the parts are better all around.

[SonsOfLiberty]

I've had a dell for 6-8 years and all still original and still working :)

[lynx]

I've had a dell for 6-8 years and all still original and still working :)
Any day now it will have finished booting.
Such patience.

[clocker]

I've had a dell for 6-8 years and all still original and still working :)
Your COA is a stone tablet, right?

[Detale]

You just jinxed yourself buddy. Whenever you say my computer is fine it's th ekiss of death.

[SonsOfLiberty]

I've had a dell for 6-8 years and all still original and still working :)
Your COA is a stone tablet, right?


Nah, it's very low standard by all means, but it serves it's purpose, downloads, watch movies, listen to music, share files, run multiple file sharing programs...the only thing I can't do is run vista, but I can run Windows 7. And I've added a few things 2x DVD burners, and a external, rest is original...I got it the year after XP came out :)

[LubTheStaringCat]

It's a little weird going from 17” moniter, to a 24”.
There's so much more space, but It's satisfying to have the space now.