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danswano
02-27-2009, 01:19 AM
What is the script (Tracker Engine) name that TL use?

105802
02-27-2009, 01:31 AM
TBDev i think

danswano
02-27-2009, 01:33 AM
No it's not!

105802
02-27-2009, 01:53 AM
Where can I get a copy of the source code?

We dont share the modified source code of our site. However you can download the torrentbits source code (our site is partly based on that) available here (http://www.tbsource.info/)

the link seems to be dead , but its TBDev (improved torrentbit source) you idiot , so dont go saying 'no its not!' when it is

cinephilia
02-27-2009, 02:02 AM
yes, that's definitely TBDev

redMonster
02-27-2009, 06:54 AM
He is talking about tracker engine. AFAIK, TBDev is just a PHP frontend. The tracker backend must be something else, something like xbtt. I don't know what backend TL is using.

Correct me if I am wrong.

danswano
02-27-2009, 12:29 PM
I want to setup my own tracker on my own dedecated server but don't know much, the server is using linux system, there must be an engine to setup and frontend like redmonster.
i don't want the source of TL because it's simply not that special, alot of trackers using it but i gave an example for a famous tracker just so everyone might know.

So anyone knows or it's just something hidden in the deep?

Ev0
02-27-2009, 06:34 PM
TL uses tbdev frontend with xbtt backend.

danswano
02-27-2009, 11:02 PM
Thanks man, anyone can confirm this?

(I)
02-27-2009, 11:24 PM
TBdev contains the tracker as well ofc

Ev0
02-27-2009, 11:32 PM
Thanks man, anyone can confirm this?

Whats to confirm? Dont be so damn lazy and register with TBDEV and read http://www.tbdev.net/index.php and http://xbtt.sourceforge.net/ here also and you can find out for yourself without asking a bloody question and not believing replies you get.

danswano
02-27-2009, 11:38 PM
Thanks man, anyone can confirm this?

Whats to confirm? Dont be so damn lazy and register with TBDEV and read http://www.tbdev.net/index.php and http://xbtt.sourceforge.net/ here also and you can find out for yourself without asking a bloody question and not believing replies you get.

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ajsi
02-27-2009, 11:44 PM
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danswano
02-27-2009, 11:46 PM
already did but he gave me wrong link before edit.

Ev0
02-28-2009, 12:04 AM
Yeah you need 50 posts to be able to see there Official Customised XBTT section of the forum.

merwais
02-28-2009, 12:10 AM
TL/IPT/TheBox is using TBDEV with XBTT backend !
It's not that easy to get their source ;)

TBDev source sucks because their announce can not hold more then 10,000 peers lol

Above trackers are using TBDev source but they edited and optimized TBDev source 99%, they won't share their source at any price !

danswano
02-28-2009, 12:26 AM
So what is the available solution for big peers amount ?

Lovestoned
02-28-2009, 05:28 AM
Blackcats also uses XBT as their backbone.

killercam101
02-28-2009, 07:29 AM
http://tinyurl.com/cyfdmt

I approve!

Ev0
02-28-2009, 11:11 AM
TBDev source sucks because their announce can not hold more then 10,000 peers lol


What a lot of shite :lol: Plenty sites using tbdev with more than 10k peers

danswano
02-28-2009, 12:14 PM
@merwais
Went to TBDEV, They said it can handle 5 million

merwais
02-28-2009, 12:31 PM
5 Million ???

muhahahahahahahaahahhahah
ahaahahahah

Don't make me laugh my friend, if you don't know about MySQL / PHP, then don't talk bullshit about peers.

and about 10k peers limit, of they can handle 20-25k peer to get very huge servers with 4-8GB ram ;)

5 million peers on a php tracker loooooooooool, still laughing :P

Yes, BCG is using XBT tracker also.

Lew
02-28-2009, 01:33 PM
dream on.... dream on

stoi
02-28-2009, 02:37 PM
I am not a professional coder by any means, but merwais is correct.

PHP script could only handle 11,000 peers then the server would be at 30+ (over 5 is bad).

Then my coder, who did do it for a living, got sick of the code, made his own, first thing i said was, can it get more than 11,000 peers, he was yeah np, put it on, guess what, got to 11,000 peers, and boom lol he was scratchig his head so much he just gave up and i havnt spoke to him since lol that was nearly 3 years ago.

even gazelle comes with XBTT, they have been saying for awhile that they are working on a PHP announce, but so far, as far as i know it has not materialized yet.

Maybe with a lot of servers, and memcache and other apps that they have for servers, it could push out a lot more, but on 1 server with no fancy gimmicks, it struggles big time.

even XBTT struggles with more than 100,000 peers if you have announce logs on, but if you dont have them on, it "should" be able to get up to 400,000 pretty easy.

Only way you will ever get 5mil peers is with a hell of a lot of servers, all beefed up to the max with hardware and software, no ratio, and dare i say it, only log announces every day, not every 30 minutes like most sites do.

11,000 peers to the announce every 30 minutes 24 hours a day 7 days a week = 6 queries a second to the db, may not sound like much, but that is only from the announce, nothing else.

as far as i know, no one knows what to do about it, there is a new streamlined PHP announce out now, but as we have used XBTT for 2 years, i have no idea how well/bad that does, but atm i am pretty sure, that if you want a fare few peers, you will need XBTT.

Lew
02-28-2009, 02:38 PM
very interesting maybe some1 should create a new engine... current one is fucking old

danswano
02-28-2009, 04:08 PM
So if i started my life with XBTT i won't regret after years ?

redMonster
02-28-2009, 04:42 PM
I am waiting for the launch of Ocelot. It will probably be ready by next year. (Ocelot is the new tracker backend being developed by the makers of Gazelle).

danswano
02-28-2009, 05:31 PM
What about it buddy, please explain, what's so special?

danswano
03-01-2009, 11:22 PM
Damn it, the XBTT source code not available for linux.
What is the best tracker backend for linux atm?

stoi
03-01-2009, 11:54 PM
of course its available for linux

you think all thse big trackers are running on hacker/virus windows heaven.

http://xbtt.sourceforge.net/tracker/


Installing under Linux
The following commands can be used to install the dependencies on Debian. The g++ version should be at least 3.4.
apt-get install cmake g++ libboost-date-time-dev libboost-dev libboost-filesystem-dev libboost-program-options-dev libboost-regex-dev libboost-serialization-dev libmysqlclient15-dev make subversion zlib1g-dev
The following commands can be used to install some of the dependencies on CentOS, Fedora Core and Red Hat. The g++ version should be at least 3.4.
yum install boost-devel gcc-c++ mysql-devel subversion
Enter the following commands in a terminal. Be patient while g++ is running, it'll take a few minutes.
svn co https://xbtt.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/xbtt/trunk/xbt/misc xbt/misc
svn co https://xbtt.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/xbtt/trunk/xbt/Tracker xbt/Tracker
cd xbt/Tracker
./make.sh
cp xbt_tracker.conf.default xbt_tracker.conf


not hard to find at all.

danswano
03-01-2009, 11:59 PM
Ok i know about that page but i'm using centos and the commands of the svn are failing, any suggestion?

merwais
03-02-2009, 01:21 AM
danswano, it's not that easy to fix XBT to your TBDev source.

XBT queries are different, you should know PHP/MySQL and C/C++ very good and perfect why to compile XBT.

If you want help, i can help you but my hour cost 30 Euro.

30 Euro/hour ! ( People calling me Mr.Optimizer ) I am good with optimizing trackers and killing extra / useless MySql queries to make trackers browse very fast ;)

P.S:I highly recommend you to review TBDev XBT section for more information, it's not one step change from announce.php to XBT tracker, you should have enough knowledge what you are doing else you will kill your tracker & your members will fly away :P

danswano
03-02-2009, 01:27 AM
And how many hour the whole tracker will take to get up and running front and back?

merwais
03-02-2009, 02:11 AM
To Bring Fresh TBDev source with XBT tracker will take minimum 4-5 hours.

Server configuration ( I work with Debian OS ) !

4-5 hour only for normal TBDev + XBT tracker, if needed more mods, it will take more time for extra mods.

wildbytes
03-02-2009, 03:13 AM
I am not a professional coder by any means, but merwais is correct.

PHP script could only handle 11,000 peers then the server would be at 30+ (over 5 is bad).

Then my coder, who did do it for a living, got sick of the code, made his own, first thing i said was, can it get more than 11,000 peers, he was yeah np, put it on, guess what, got to 11,000 peers, and boom lol he was scratchig his head so much he just gave up and i havnt spoke to him since lol that was nearly 3 years ago.

even gazelle comes with XBTT, they have been saying for awhile that they are working on a PHP announce, but so far, as far as i know it has not materialized yet.

Maybe with a lot of servers, and memcache and other apps that they have for servers, it could push out a lot more, but on 1 server with no fancy gimmicks, it struggles big time.

even XBTT struggles with more than 100,000 peers if you have announce logs on, but if you dont have them on, it "should" be able to get up to 400,000 pretty easy.

Only way you will ever get 5mil peers is with a hell of a lot of servers, all beefed up to the max with hardware and software, no ratio, and dare i say it, only log announces every day, not every 30 minutes like most sites do.

11,000 peers to the announce every 30 minutes 24 hours a day 7 days a week = 6 queries a second to the db, may not sound like much, but that is only from the announce, nothing else.

as far as i know, no one knows what to do about it, there is a new streamlined PHP announce out now, but as we have used XBTT for 2 years, i have no idea how well/bad that does, but atm i am pretty sure, that if you want a fare few peers, you will need XBTT.


HEHE


I say for sure i have had way more then 20,000 peers on a basic tbdev source so this really is not right. Ita sll in how you set it up. But yes XBTT is much better backend for tracker.




Wild

TheFoX
03-02-2009, 03:25 AM
Your all wrong... I have between 12,000 and 15,000 peers running on a PHP backend.

While an XBTT backend is more efficient than a PHP backend, the limitations are a result of the hardware, and not the software. You could have an XBTT backend that is slower than a PHP backend if the PHP is run on much more efficient hardware.

Three things can affect this.

1) Processor speed.
2) Memory available and cache ram speed.
3) Disk speed.

I've hit well over 15,000 peers on my modified announce with little worry.

stoi
03-02-2009, 03:53 AM
Ok well like i said, i am no professional, my server at the time was (and i am going back 3 years here so what i actually remember)

2.8ghz pent 4
2 gig ram
250gig 7200rpm hdd

and it got to 11,000 ish (may have had a bit more but not much more) and it would be 30+ server load.

now i have 2 servers, 1 for web and XBTT the other for the DB both have

(off the top of my head i cant really remember lol)
Quad Core processor 3.0 ghz i think but will have to look that up.
8 gig ram
250gig laptop 5200rpm hdds

and get 100,000 peers with XBTT and server loads of less than 1

so that will do me lol and that is without memcache, we do have APC installed though but not memcache.

all i know is, if you want a shit load of peers, more than 25,000 and closer to 100,000 get XBTT. (its the easier way anyway, unless you are a pro or at least semi pro and know wtf you are doing)

wildbytes
03-02-2009, 04:20 AM
2 servers,

for that many peers, WOW

You might want to look at your setup if you need 2 servers to run your site with that peer amount.

Quad Core processor 3.0 ghz i think but will have to look that up.
8 gig ram, this should handle your hole site. use that ram and cache.






Wild

stoi
03-02-2009, 04:36 AM
well its 2 servers in 1 box

http://www.intel.com/products/server/systems/sr1520ml/sr1520ml-overview.htm

one of those, thing is we may be able to push 400,000 peers, but i have never had over 100,000 even when we had over 100,000 members we never got over 100,000 peers lol but with 27,000 members we are at 95,000 atm.

plus they are co-location, so it is mine, honestly i am happy with it and that is all that matters, we probably could push more oomph out of it if i really wanted, but no need atm.

what really shagged us up, was having over 700members on the site at once as well, but i havnt had that with these servers, so again, its been fine so far, which does me.

btw they are 2 * Quad core 3200 2.33ghz

JohnTek
06-30-2009, 07:21 PM
@merwais
I have a work for you.
Where can I find you?Do you have some contact?
Thanks :)

sake
06-30-2009, 07:42 PM
@merwais
I have a work for you.
Where can I find you?Do you have some contact?
Thanks :)

Just PM him :whistling :rolleyes:

JohnTek
06-30-2009, 07:58 PM
@merwais
I have a work for you.
Where can I find you?Do you have some contact?
Thanks :)

Just PM him :whistling :rolleyes:

I haven't the PM function enabled yet. :(

NippleCake
06-30-2009, 08:16 PM
JohnTek. Your tracker will be unsucessful. Save you money mate and buy something useful with it.

merwais
07-02-2009, 04:05 AM
send me a pm and explain clearly what you want before we go further ;)

JohnTek
07-02-2009, 05:37 AM
merwais,I've got PM disabled yet.
This is my email,so I can write you what I need.
[email protected]
Thx :)

JohnTek
07-19-2009, 06:21 AM
merwais,I need your help pleasee :(
Could you contact me?

cinephilia
07-19-2009, 07:59 AM
JohnTek. Your tracker will be unsucessful. Save you money mate and buy something useful with it.
i second that.

JohnTek
08-03-2009, 10:09 PM
Don't worry man! :-)
People,is there somebody that can help me with an xbt problem? If somebody are using this code,or know ho to add some trick,please contact me.
[email protected] thanks at all nice people that would contact me. Thanks!

Wwwildthing
08-05-2009, 03:02 AM
OpenBitTorrent (dot com) is a php tracker, intended to replaced The Pirate Bay tracker.

The (pirate bay) stats as I post this are...

Registered users - 3,794,576
IPv4 - 16,772,165 peers (8,833,330 seeders + 7,938,835 leechers) in 1,715,842 torrents on tracker.
IPv6 - 211,051 peers (118,001 seeders + 93,050 leechers) in 185,197 torrents on tracker.

This is spread across a stack of 10-12 servers, using...

http:// tracker.openbittorrent.com:80/announce
udp://tracker.openbittorrent.com:80/announce

The aggregated scrape file for the entire cluster is updated every 5 minutes and is ~40 MB, instead of the ~100-120 MB you would get from each node in the cluster.

LRG
08-05-2009, 11:43 AM
TBDEV uses php tracker. Xbtt tbdev uses xbtt.


Try here..

tbdev.net

i remmeber tbdev from the good old days :P