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Is the use of "whom" in a sentence, regarded as proper English, or is it seen as nostalgically arrogant?
eg.
....her brother, whom i always thought was a slimyb.. etc
second question
is "Who(m)" an adverb,noun, word etc what is the correct categorisation of this four letter word?
Yes, it's proper English.
The rule of thumb is to remember that "who" is the subject and "whom" is an object.
Who is that guy?
Twelve people are on a jury, 7 of whom are men.
Make sense? :unsure:
callum
03-06-2009, 01:21 AM
I don't think I have ever spoken the word whom or written it.
I would probably say "Twelve people are on a jury, 7 of them are men". I don't know if skizo's example is just shit, but i think it sounds better and even if I were a user of whom, I'd probably go with what I said.
I seldom use it. I've probably used "whom" in college papers more than any time in the rest of my life combined.
callum
03-06-2009, 02:42 AM
Probably best to ignore what I said. I'd struggle to write a sentence in joined up letters, the only time I have to put something down on paper I just use block capitals, I only ever write short notes or lists. You used to be a number 7 on the list, but I scored you out. I do type more than I write, but it's all shite.
apextwin146
03-06-2009, 04:38 AM
Yes, it's proper English.
The rule of thumb is to remember that "who" is the subject and "whom" is an object.
Who is that guy?
Twelve people are on a jury, 7 of whom are men.
Make sense? :unsure:
What he says is correct ... This is what they teach you in those High Profile GMAT books .. Maybe Skizo just gave one :shifty:
Squeamous
03-06-2009, 07:49 AM
I reckon Skizo's sounds like the right description. I usually only use it for effect when swearing or whatever rather than normally because people might think it's a bit old fashioned.
Another one is 'whilst'. When I was 10 a teacher told me off for using it because he said no-one said that anymore.
Artemis
03-06-2009, 10:03 AM
Yet another word that has fallen into fogeyness is thus, it is only brandished by university lecturers. A little used word that I particularly enjoy though is underwhelm(ed), as in I am completely underwhelmed by that :blink:
Barbarossa
03-06-2009, 10:16 AM
Until I just looked it up I actually didn't realise that was a proper word
chalice
03-06-2009, 10:45 AM
I would still use 'whom' sometimes, like.
When I'm addressing a letter to a collective body or if I'm writing a sicknote for one of the kids for school or whatnot.
'To whom it may concern'. Still valid imo. True story.
It's also the sound a fart makes underwater. WHOOOM.
Squeamous
03-06-2009, 11:10 AM
Yet another word that has fallen into fogeyness is thus, it is only brandished by university lecturers. A little used word that I particularly enjoy though is underwhelm(ed), as in I am completely underwhelmed by that :blink:
Oh I like those. I use the phrase 'multi-talentless' sometimes. I use 'thus' quite a lot as well. But usually I find old fashioned words work better banged right up next to really modern words or slang, just for effect.
Not that I really think about it much :unsure:
Squeamous
03-06-2009, 11:11 AM
I would still use 'whom' sometimes, like.
When I'm addressing a letter to a collective body or if I'm writing a sicknote for one of the kids for school or whatnot.
'To whom it may concern'. Still valid imo. True story.
It's also the sound a fart makes underwater. WHOOOM.
No, that's 'Blubbalubbalub'. WHOOM is the noise a torpedo makes leaving a sub.
EHS
(second thoughts maybe yours does sound like that)
chalice
03-06-2009, 11:22 AM
Guinness'll do that to ya.
And you definitely wouldn't be eating that soggy biscuit after that. :no:
Squeamous
03-06-2009, 11:42 AM
Oh no! Soda Stream squits are the worst.
Skweeky
03-06-2009, 01:31 PM
I like using 'ergo'. It makes me seem clever. Or a twat. Either.
Squeamous
03-06-2009, 01:40 PM
You like to use a twat for what? :unsure:
Skweeky
03-06-2009, 01:49 PM
Getting a new pair of shoes, mainly.
Squeamous
03-06-2009, 01:52 PM
:lol:
It is our way, I'm not judging.
Rat Faced
03-06-2009, 10:48 PM
Is the use of "proper english" the correct English Grammer?
I think it is, but it sounds wrong.. :unsure:
Artemis
03-08-2009, 08:23 AM
Is the use of "proper english" the correct English Grammer?
I think it is, but it sounds wrong.. :unsure:
The Queen's english or proper english, which of course begs the burning question is text speak 'improper english' ? :blink:
Artemis
03-08-2009, 10:02 AM
hey moron, you have not more power cuz you born with english... so chill... and w8 what come :/
My point, superbly illustrated ! :blink:
Artemis
03-08-2009, 10:21 AM
english...
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who said that you will born with one fucking language and that I have to learn some X retarded slangs of some americans hookers... go and talk to to wall, I am not interested, if you wanna beat me in czech, PM me :dabs:
could you type that again in english please, I find spastic difficult to understand ?
Skweeky
03-08-2009, 10:35 AM
I would suggest you join a Czech forum since you seem to be rather annoyed by the fact this one in English speaking.
Skweeky
03-08-2009, 12:09 PM
Then I should warn you; discussions regarding English grammar are common here.
JPaul
03-08-2009, 01:57 PM
No man is an island,
Entire of itself.
Each is a piece of the continent,
A part of the main.
If a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less.
As well as if a promontory were.
As well as if a manner of thine own
Or of thine friend's were.
Each man's death diminishes me,
For I am involved in mankind.
Therefore, send not to know
For whom the bell tolls,
It tolls for thee.
Is the use of "whom" in a sentence, regarded as proper English, or is it seen as nostalgically arrogant?
eg.
....her brother, whom i always thought was a slimyb.. etc
second question
is "Who(m)" an adverb,noun, word etc what is the correct categorisation of this four letter word?
A pronoun.
lamuller
03-08-2009, 10:55 PM
Skizo is right, but you can find that information on the internet if you are not sure, just google it
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