Is It Time To Give Up On Kazaa?

[teqguy]

Kazaa has been a very good P2P sharing application for the time it's been around.
But the Fast Track Network itself is brutally outdated.
The sharing algorithms need to be re-written to adherre to new industry standards, such as g-zip compression and .Net http protocol.

Now, there's no way to fix this, either through suggesting a rennovation or by rewriting the K-lite/Kazaa code itself.

Lets face it, Kazaa is dead. Everyone is running for their lives because of the RIAA, and I'm unable to find any rich, snobby users to download from in my area, or anywhere even remotely near me for that matter.

We need to bring the users back, but not back to Kazaa.

Why not teach people how to use BitTorrent, which has the potential to beat Kazaa in both bandwidth and sharing issues, if we have enough users.


Using torrent provides us with just as much sharing and downloading opportunity, but at the center of security, because there are no centralized servers to monitor your IP.


Just a thought... ;)

[nikita69]

Your opinion is possibly a fair statement. however, this not the thread to post this here. Please look around the first and post accordingly.

[Gre1]

Kazaa is not dead. It is still the best P2P and mostly the only peeps running from RIAA is Noobs and they probably have that many files anyway. All that G-Zip shit fuck that Kazaa is fine the way it is.

[N£MO]

Maybe time to use other p2p's more and be very careful if you have to use k++.

[MUSLEMAN]

Originally posted by teqguy@20 September 2003 - 18:35
Kazaa has been a very good P2P sharing application for the time it's been around.
But the Fast Track Network itself is brutally outdated.
The sharing algorithms need to be re-written to adherre to new industry standards, such as g-zip compression and .Net http protocol.

Now, there's no way to fix this, either through suggesting a rennovation or by rewriting the K-lite/Kazaa code itself.

Lets face it, Kazaa is dead. Everyone is running for their lives because of the RIAA, and I'm unable to find any rich, snobby users to download from in my area, or anywhere even remotely near me for that matter.

We need to bring the users back, but not back to Kazaa.

Why not teach people how to use BitTorrent, which has the potential to beat Kazaa in both bandwidth and sharing issues, if we have enough users.


Using torrent provides us with just as much sharing and downloading opportunity, but at the center of security, because there are no centralized servers to monitor your IP.


Just a thought... ;)
well here we go again teqguy this is not the right place for this post, second why is it that i keep seeing you talk crap about klite and still here and using it, you don&#39;t like it good day, either come up with a better one, use it and deal with it or beat it, are you not tierd of naging yet?? every single post i have seen from you on this forum is a nag about klite and how it can&#39;t do this and can&#39;t read that and can&#39;t connect to this and can&#39;t read that bla bla bla bla wtf&#33;&#33;&#33; either do something about it or hush up damn nager <_<

[wormless]

i think if yr not happy here u shud look 4 another p2p server

[Adster]

well yes it is time to give up the real file is impossible to get source and the rest are fakes

[Sparkle1984]

Is It Time To Give Up On Kazaa?

No way &#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;
LOL &#33;&#33; :D :lol:

[benn19uk]

Kazaa Rules&#33; And BitTorrent is wierd... Useful, but wierd...

[internet.news]

Kazaa is the best at the moment - although I wish audiogalaxy would be
back soon :) it was the fastest - but the second p2p best tools are soulseek
( http://www.slsk.org ) and imesh (which was taken to courts shortly, but I do not know if it is still there, I think so&#33;) http://www.imesh.com ....

thks...

[Dapadipz]

KaZaA Lite Is Still Great&#33;
Good For Appz And Most Music (Apart From RIAA Screeching Files)
Great Speeds On Older Movies

[true_neo]

Will all of you "Kazaa dies" ppl either STFU or ask an admin to ban you from this forum&#33;
All of us here are here because we love Kazaa Lite K++, and we dun bother listenin to you whinin SOB&#39;s.
Here is a great workin filesharin comb:
For smaller proggies: KLK++ (no worry if corrupted)
For bigger proggies: eMule (to avoid corrupted at least)
For cracks eMule (lesser virus, not had one:D)
For movies:
a ) (Sharereactor) eMule then share on KLK++
b ) KLK++ (great speeds)

Thats basically all I dl. So you see eMule and KLK++ can live in perfect harmony (until KLK++ get built-in corruption fixer and better hashes, then its byebye eMule :D)

[Ferasso]

Let me see...

3.934.883 online users right now...

sharing...
724.215.653 files

or

5.694.592 GB.

Dead?? Who&#39;s dead?

[teqguy]

Originally posted by MUSLEMAN@20 September 2003 - 23:32
well here we go again teqguy this is not the right place for this post, second why is it that i keep seeing you talk crap about klite and still here and using it, you don&#39;t like it good day, either come up with a better one, use it and deal with it or beat it, are you not tierd of naging yet?? every single post i have seen from you on this forum is a nag about klite and how it can&#39;t do this and can&#39;t read that and can&#39;t connect to this and can&#39;t read that bla bla bla bla wtf&#33;&#33;&#33; either do something about it or hush up damn nager <_<
MUSLEMAN SHUT THE FUCK UP.

I am entitled to the right to post whatever I want, as long as it&#39;s not offensive, vulgar, or racist.

Stop responding to EVERY thread. You get status on this forum not by how many posts you&#39;ve made, but the QUALITY of the post.

You don&#39;t have a brain in that head, do you?


After years of contribution to the file sharing community, I think I have the right to criticize what I want to criticize. If you don&#39;t like it, YOU LEAVE. All you do is follow me and harass me because I&#39;m smarter than you&#39;ll ever be.


Give it a rest you loser.

[teqguy]

Originally posted by Ferasso@21 September 2003 - 17:11
Let me see...

3.934.883 online users right now...

sharing...
724.215.653 files

or

5.694.592 GB.

Dead?? Who&#39;s dead?
Most of the files on FTN are pornographic(not a bad thing).


But when it comes to count QUALITY downloads, such as DVDrips, telesyncs, high quality MP3s, and good, uncorrupted software, that number only hits 300 mil files.

[zapjb]

[QUOTE]teqguy
Posted: 20 September 2003 - 18:35
.....Lets face it, Kazaa is dead. Everyone is running for their lives because of the RIAA.....Why not teach people how to use BitTorrent, which has the potential to beat Kazaa in both bandwidth and sharing issues, if we have enough users.
Using torrent provides us with just as much sharing and downloading opportunity, but at the center of security, because there are no centralized servers to monitor your IP.....[QUOTE]

:lol: BT is the most unsecure p2p there is.

[teqguy]

Originally posted by true_neo@21 September 2003 - 15:47
Will all of you "Kazaa dies" ppl either STFU or ask an admin to ban you from this forum&#33;
All of us here are here because we love Kazaa Lite K++, and we dun bother listenin to you whinin SOB&#39;s.
Here is a great workin filesharin comb:
For smaller proggies: KLK++ (no worry if corrupted)
For bigger proggies: eMule (to avoid corrupted at least)
For cracks eMule (lesser virus, not had one:D)
For movies:
a ) (Sharereactor) eMule then share on KLK++
b ) KLK++ (great speeds)

Thats basically all I dl. So you see eMule and KLK++ can live in perfect harmony (until KLK++ get built-in corruption fixer and better hashes, then its byebye eMule :D)
You guys all take it into context. You think I want to give up on FTN?

Hell no&#33;

It&#39;s by far the fastest and most reliable P2P network around, but the problem is everyone ran into a corner and hid cuz of this stupid RIAA shit. I can&#39;t find any supernodes in Cali, so it&#39;s become a pain to find a good reliable node.


This thread isn&#39;t to bash Kazaa, it&#39;s still awesome, but possibly to get people to come up with a resolution? Such as dumping everything you get from FTP, newsgroups, IRC, BT, Edonkey/Emule, and whatnot onto Kazaa to create a plethora of files.



I&#39;m not flaming Kazaa, just making people realize there are alternatives that could become available and turn into a more vast network of sharing GOOD files. I was browsing this guy&#39;s list of shared files and all he had were 50,000 text documents. Thats what I mean by getting quality files, not just extra bullshit we dont need to sift through.






:ph34r: cowers into a corner as he gets flamed more :ph34r:

[teqguy]

Originally posted by zapjb@21 September 2003 - 19:41
[QUOTE]teqguy
Posted: 20 September 2003 - 18:35
.....Lets face it, Kazaa is dead. Everyone is running for their lives because of the RIAA.....Why not teach people how to use BitTorrent, which has the potential to beat Kazaa in both bandwidth and sharing issues, if we have enough users.
Using torrent provides us with just as much sharing and downloading opportunity, but at the center of security, because there are no centralized servers to monitor your IP.....[QUOTE]

:lol: BT is the most unsecure p2p there is.
Is it really? Because I looked at the source code and compared it to Kazaa, the algorithm kills.


But I don&#39;t know, maybe you&#39;re a professional programmer too?


Of course not, you&#39;re just basing it on downloads. That&#39;s not personal experience.

[teqguy]

Originally posted by Gre1@20 September 2003 - 23:13
Kazaa is not dead. It is still the best P2P and mostly the only peeps running from RIAA is Noobs and they probably have that many files anyway. All that G-Zip shit fuck that Kazaa is fine the way it is.
Kazaa isn&#39;t dead to us, but it is to the RIAA, MPAA, and every other organization that&#39;s been fighting to get rid of it.



Fuck all the g-zip shit?

Maybe you should take a look at the g-zip source and see what exactly it is before you knock it.


G-zip is high bitrate compression, able to be used by ANY protocol with the g-zip method added onto it.

Which means videos, audio, and data would be compressed to 40-50% of it&#39;s size.

If I have to simplify that even more for you:

This means you get your files faster&#33;


For example, a DVDrip in AVI format, around 700mb, could be compressed to around 350mb, the size of a telesync movie.

[zapjb]

The sources of the files in BT are not hidden in any way unlike the FTN.

[benn19uk]

Kazaa is definately not dead, and I think the RIAA realise that. That&#39;s why they&#39;re running around spreading scare stories about people being sued or sent to jail.
Annoyingly though, there isnt a P2P program out there thats as alive as Kazaa used to be... Out of my last 5 searches, 3 of the files I wanted couldnt be found... :(

[teqguy]

If only some developer out there could combine Edonkey, Kazaa, BT, etc into one universal client that could handle all the files.


It would be crazy, but imagine how many files you could find. And the bulky feeling of running more than one filesharing app at once would be done away with.

[teqguy]

Originally posted by zapjb@21 September 2003 - 20:08
The sources of the files in BT are not hidden in any way unlike the FTN.
You mean your IP address?
If I wanted to hack you through Kazaa, I would. <_<

But just having your IP address doesn&#39;t do much.


The difference in security is not based on whether or not I can get your IP. Because it&#39;s easy to do, just go to Command Prompt and type netstat.

I&#39;m basing security on the fact that BT uses an entirely different protocol and there&#39;s no centralized network.


Plus, the speed issues.

On Kazaa, every file that hasn&#39;t completed holds IP addresses in the dat files. Which means, even if you aren&#39;t on Kazaa, your IP is still getting pinged by people looking for you as a source.
This can kill your connection if you share upwards of 5,000 files.

[nahan]

Of all the networks kazaa is my favorite,emule is just way to slow
The problem I have with the network is too many crap files ,not enough sources to connect to, fakes,anti piracy groups scanning you.

Who wants to download poor quality cams,clips from movies shitty mp3s and virus./trojans.Mind you it dosent happen all the time ,but dosent mean that it hasent happened...often enough to become an issue.
Sources vary in each location ,just because you can find sources in one place of the world dosent mean you can find sources in another,not to mention you can only download complete files and once you find a souce it can take a long time for you to download a new file.
For new movies days if not weeks ,for dvds a year old half a year; hours.

We have all had our fair share of fakes and the bogus files that are blank.
Everybody has been scanned by the riaa and the latter such of anti piracy,
Peer gaurdian is great but for the amount of notoriety kazaa gets its only a matter of time.Country by country will jump aboard the peer to peer seek and destroy.
Its going to take a hell of alot to save the network from the inevitable.

[sharedholder]

Most of the files on FTN are pornographic(not a bad thing).


But when it comes to count QUALITY downloads, such as DVDrips, telesyncs, high quality MP3s, and good, uncorrupted software, that number only hits 300 mil files.


Don&#39;t use it.


Is it really? Because I looked at the source code and compared it to Kazaa, the algorithm kills.


But I don&#39;t know, maybe you&#39;re a professional programmer too?


Of course not, you&#39;re just basing it on downloads. That&#39;s not personal experience.

Stop flamming and if you are so expert rebuild KAZAA as you wish.

[twisterX]

what the :swear:
Kazaa LITE is the best

[nukemdomis]

Originally posted by true_neo@21 September 2003 - 07:47
Will all of you "Kazaa dies" ppl either STFU or ask an admin to ban you from this forum&#33;
All of us here are here because we love Kazaa Lite K++, and we dun bother listenin to you whinin SOB&#39;s.
Here is a great workin filesharin comb:
For smaller proggies: KLK++ (no worry if corrupted)
For bigger proggies: eMule (to avoid corrupted at least)
For cracks eMule (lesser virus, not had one:D)
For movies:
a ) (Sharereactor) eMule then share on KLK++
b ) KLK++ (great speeds)

Thats basically all I dl. So you see eMule and KLK++ can live in perfect harmony (until KLK++ get built-in corruption fixer and better hashes, then its byebye eMule :D)
Hold up a minute........In the past you could get all the files you listed above through K-lite...................now you&#39;re suggesting like 5 different programs&#33;&#33;

I love K-lite and at the moment it is still the best for single song downloads.

I don&#39;t think kazaa is dead, but I think it&#39;s pulse is rapidly skyrocketing







Down.

Teqguy i remember in the past, the number of false named files was probably about 5% of what it is now, as well as the speed of downloads.

[MagicNakor]

Originally posted by true_neo@21 September 2003 - 16:47
Will all of you "Kazaa dies" ppl either STFU or ask an admin to ban you from this forum&#33;
All of us here are here because we love Kazaa Lite K++, and we dun bother listenin to you whinin SOB&#39;s...
Not necessarily true. This forum is far more than a forum on Kazaa - as FC&#39;s often put it, it&#39;s a filesharing forum. I haven&#39;t actively used Kazaa in months now, as other programs have been "better," for whichever reasons.

:ninja:

[teqguy]

Yeah, just recently mass amounts of fakes have been popping up, either because of RIAA aids or just disgruntled sharers. There are actually people that support the RIAA. I&#39;ve gotten about 4 people that actually had the nerve to tell me off for sharing and downloading DVDrips and applications. Some of them go as far as putting fake files on Kazaa. Why? No idea, it&#39;s a LARGE waste of space, compared to the small amount of time it takes me to figure out they&#39;re fakes :lol:


For videos, use AVI Preview as soon as you&#39;re able to. Some large files, such as DVDs need to reach 10mb before you can preview them. But for telesyncs or files around 250mb, can be previewed within the first 2mb, for the first sign of video.




Just in case you don&#39;t get around to reading my other post in the General category:


Please become a supernode&#33; Especially if you live in Southern California&#33; We need more nodes or else more shares won&#39;t make a difference. The files need to be connected to the users by the supernodes.


Here&#39;s what I figured out theoretically:

For every sharer, we need at least 2 nodes to connect.

[Gre1]

Originally posted by teqguy@22 September 2003 - 22:22
Yeah, just recently mass amounts of fakes have been popping up, either because of RIAA aids or just disgruntled sharers. There are actually people that support the RIAA. I&#39;ve gotten about 4 people that actually had the nerve to tell me off for sharing and downloading DVDrips and applications. Some of them go as far as putting fake files on Kazaa. Why? No idea, it&#39;s a LARGE waste of space, compared to the small amount of time it takes me to figure out they&#39;re fakes :lol:


For videos, use AVI Preview as soon as you&#39;re able to. Some large files, such as DVDs need to reach 10mb before you can preview them. But for telesyncs or files around 250mb, can be previewed within the first 2mb, for the first sign of video.




Just in case you don&#39;t get around to reading my other post in the General category:


Please become a supernode&#33; Especially if you live in Southern California&#33; We need more nodes or else more shares won&#39;t make a difference. The files need to be connected to the users by the supernodes.


Here&#39;s what I figured out theoretically:

For every sharer, we need at least 2 nodes to connect.
I thought u were giving up on kazaa now your giving tips on it.

[NotoriousBIC]

Why is it that discussions here quickly degenerate into attacks at persons themselves lately?

I haven&#39;t used K++ for months now for the simple reason that I can get my files quicker through other means (Bittorrent and DC++)

I think more and more people are coming to that conclusion and will turn to other p2p-sharing methods.

Is Kazaa dead? No, it still is the biggest p2p-network around.

Is Kazaa dying? Probably not, because it still is the easiest p2p around so it will keep attracting newbies/schoolkids/housewifes etc.

Does Kazaa need a radical upgrade? Most definitely so. Better hashing, partial sharing etc. have been implemented by other programs to great succes. Kazaa has been superseded many times over technology-wise.
Even Darwin knew that those who don&#39;t adapt, will eventually become extinct.

[Barbarossa]

Kazaa isn&#39;t dead.... yet&#33;

But it will be unless Sharman addresses the fact that the file hashing isn&#39;t sophisticated enough to stop corrupted files being merged with genuine files during multi-source downloads.

[teqguy]

Oh shut up.

[sharedholder]

teqguy,if you don&#39;t like K++ don&#39;t use it .(again) I don&#39;t understand the sense of this topic.

[mark cuerton]

Originally posted by teqguy+21 September 2003 - 19:31--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (teqguy @ 21 September 2003 - 19:31)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-MUSLEMAN@20 September 2003 - 23:32
well here we go again teqguy this is not the right place for this post, second why is it that i keep seeing you talk crap about klite and still here and using it, you don&#39;t like it good day, either come up with a better one,&nbsp; use it and deal with it or beat it, are you not tierd of naging yet?? every single post i have seen from you on this forum is a nag about klite and how it can&#39;t do this and can&#39;t read that and can&#39;t connect to this and can&#39;t read that bla bla bla bla wtf&#33;&#33;&#33;&nbsp; either do something about it or hush up damn nager <_<
MUSLEMAN SHUT THE FUCK UP.

I am entitled to the right to post whatever I want, as long as it&#39;s not offensive, vulgar, or racist.

Stop responding to EVERY thread. You get status on this forum not by how many posts you&#39;ve made, but the QUALITY of the post.

You don&#39;t have a brain in that head, do you?


After years of contribution to the file sharing community, I think I have the right to criticize what I want to criticize. If you don&#39;t like it, YOU LEAVE. All you do is follow me and harass me because I&#39;m smarter than you&#39;ll ever be.


Give it a rest you loser. [/b][/quote]
Is "Musleman" supposed to be "Muscleman"? AND is "nager" supposed to be "nagger"?
If so, I&#39;m afraid Tegguy could have a good argument about the intelligence of Moosleman..... Or maybe he just cant spell&#33; :lol:

[teqguy]

LOL thanks Mark.

[Jibbler]

I&#39;ll start using Klite again when they incorporate public proxies into their network. :)

[MUSLEMAN]

Originally posted by mark cuerton+24 September 2003 - 17:27--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (mark cuerton &#064; 24 September 2003 - 17:27)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by teqguy@21 September 2003 - 19:31
<!--QuoteBegin-MUSLEMAN@20 September 2003 - 23:32
well here we go again teqguy this is not the right place for this post, second why is it that i keep seeing you talk crap about klite and still here and using it, you don&#39;t like it good day, either come up with a better one, use it and deal with it or beat it, are you not tierd of naging yet?? every single post i have seen from you on this forum is a nag about klite and how it can&#39;t do this and can&#39;t read that and can&#39;t connect to this and can&#39;t read that bla bla bla bla wtf&#33;&#33;&#33; either do something about it or hush up damn nager <_<
MUSLEMAN SHUT THE FUCK UP.

I am entitled to the right to post whatever I want, as long as it&#39;s not offensive, vulgar, or racist.

Stop responding to EVERY thread. You get status on this forum not by how many posts you&#39;ve made, but the QUALITY of the post.

You don&#39;t have a brain in that head, do you?


After years of contribution to the file sharing community, I think I have the right to criticize what I want to criticize. If you don&#39;t like it, YOU LEAVE. All you do is follow me and harass me because I&#39;m smarter than you&#39;ll ever be.


Give it a rest you loser.
Is "Musleman" supposed to be "Muscleman"? AND is "nager" supposed to be "nagger"?
If so, I&#39;m afraid Tegguy could have a good argument about the intelligence of Moosleman..... Or maybe he just cant spell&#33; :lol: [/b][/quote]
and you must be very smart with the nagguy to judge a book by its cover, gosh i wish i could be like you so smart and sharp and thanks for letting me know how muscleman is spelled since i didn&#39;t know or is it because you think you are smart but realy are stupid and there is a reason why muscleman is spelled musleman?? hummm well you are so smart i will let you and the nagguy figure it out :P :P

[mark cuerton]

Originally posted by MUSLEMAN@26 September 2003 - 00:07

Is "Musleman" supposed to be "Muscleman"? AND is "nager" supposed to be "nagger"?
If so, I&#39;m afraid Tegguy could have a good argument about the intelligence of Moosleman..... Or maybe he just cant spell&#33; :lol:
and you must be very smart with the nagguy to judge a book by its cover, gosh i wish i could be like you so smart and sharp and thanks for letting me know how muscleman is spelled since i didn&#39;t know or is it because you think you are smart but realy are stupid and there is a reason why muscleman is spelled musleman?? hummm well you are so smart i will let you and the nagguy figure it out :P :P [/quote]
Sorry Musleman. Is that, Mus-le-man?
Wow you&#39;ve got me there&#33; I&#39;ve never been any good at cryptic. I don&#39;t know how I&#39;ll sleep tonight now.

On second thoughts......I&#39;m off to bed&#33; :ph34r:

[mark cuerton]

Originally posted by MUSLEMAN@26 September 2003 - 00:07

Is "Musleman" supposed to be "Muscleman"? AND is "nager" supposed to be "nagger"?
If so, I&#39;m afraid Tegguy could have a good argument about the intelligence of Moosleman..... Or maybe he just cant spell&#33; :lol:
and you must be very smart with the nagguy to judge a book by its cover, gosh i wish i could be like you so smart and sharp and thanks for letting me know how muscleman is spelled since i didn&#39;t know or is it because you think you are smart but realy are stupid and there is a reason why muscleman is spelled musleman?? hummm well you are so smart i will let you and the nagguy figure it out :P :P [/quote]
Sorry Musleman. Is that, Mus-le-man?
Wow you&#39;ve got me there&#33; I&#39;ve never been any good at cryptic. I don&#39;t know how I&#39;ll sleep tonight now.

On second thoughts......I&#39;m off to bed&#33; :ph34r:

[DVD PIRATE III]

kaza is alright for users like mark who wanna download the latest "westlife single"...lol
But for the advanced user u have to search a little bit for your desired album/song etc

[SeK612]

I agree the FT network has gone downhill recently (screeching MP3&#39;s, no sources etc) but after looking into alternatives K++ is still the best.

So far I have tried:

Emule Plus

2 hours and still waiting to begin to download my file (with no apparent chance of that happening any time soon :()

ES5

does not have the file I&#39;m looking for - and doesn&#39;t appear to have many files at all <_<.

Bit torrent

1000+ hours to get a 500 meg file - and so far 2% of that file has taken 20 hours to download :blink:

Also whilst "jumping ship" does seem like a good idea at this time, if the RIAA do succeed in reducing the FT network to the quagmire that it seems to be heading towards then they (and other companies that have seen their success) will turn on the other networks and try and get rid of them.

[Switeck]

Originally posted by SeK612@27 September 2003 - 12:28
Bit torrent

1000+ hours to get a 500 meg file - and so far 2% of that file has taken 20 hours to download :blink:

Also whilst "jumping ship" does seem like a good idea at this time, if the RIAA do succeed in reducing the FT network to the quagmire that it seems to be heading towards then they (and other companies that have seen their success) will turn on the other networks and try and get rid of them.
On BitTorrent, if you don&#39;t get in early (within a day or 2 of the torrent&#39;s posting) then you probably won&#39;t get the file unless it&#39;s stupidly common and well-seeded.

You can&#39;t make a much better assumption about KL++ just from randomly trying to download a rare 500 MB file from it.

RIAA/MPAA/BSA will move onto attacking other networks (actually, they already have&#33;) once Kazaa is &#39;defeated&#39;. Trouble is, some of those networks -- such as Gnutella -- won&#39;t prove such easy targets.

[teqguy]

I&#39;d like to see them take down IRC or newsgroups hahaha.
There will always be a way to share files, even if it isn&#39;t as convinient as Kazaa&#39;s point and click interface.

So instead of attacking individual users, why not just go after the ISPs. They have the money to pay those bastards off ;).



What I&#39;m really scared about is blacklisting. Say they catch someone, interrogate them, and tell them that if they give the name of someone else who is sharing, they&#39;ll let them off the hook.

Then, after they collect enough names, they&#39;ll come back in a year and sue everyone on the list.


Reminds me of the Salem witch trials =P