Saddam's Gold Tanker Truck

[ashutosh_cool16]

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http://www.piczonline.com/client/ashutosh_cool16/Goldandfueltruck1.jpg



http://www.piczonline.com/client/ashutosh_cool16/Goldonpallet.jpg



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I dunno whether this is true or not...... but it seems 2 be! :ph34r:

[james_bond_rulez]

he's holding the gold brick like it's his...

greedy americans

[cpt_azad]

it's belongs to the iraqi ppl, not to americans, not to saddam, and definately not to "BROWN". damn american government, i wonder what's next? iran?

[-Archwolf-]

it's belongs to the iraqi ppl, not to americans, not to saddam, and definately not to "BROWN". damn american government, i wonder what's next? iran?


I'm pretty sure that bush does not feel the same way you do

[HellBoY]

these pictures reminds me of THREE KINGS (the film)

[lynx]

That 'gold' looks a bit scabby. and I don't think that guy realises how heavy real gold is. I doubt if he would be smiling like that if he tried to hold a real gold ingot that way.

[Alucard1475]

You americans gonna be rich just like that. Stealing gold, oil, killing innocent people and pretending you didn't shot first, hmmm, you must feel proud. Congrats...

[MetroStars]

Imagine the pawn shop guys face if u tried 2 sell 1 of those fuckers :lol:

[Dapadipz]

Originally posted by MetroStars@21 September 2003 - 13:06
Imagine the pawn shop guys face if u tried 2 sell 1 of those fuckers :lol:
:lol:

has neone ever had a gold brick!

is it light - that guy holding it like its a perfume on an advert

[lynx]

A gold ingot that size would weigh about 30 kilos.

[MetroStars]

This kinda reminds me of Die Hard 3 , when Samual L Jackson gets that gold bar and uses it 2 break the car window, and then he leaves the gold bar in the back of car 4 the guy 2 find

[Illuminati]

Originally posted by MetroStars@21 September 2003 - 14:21
This kinda reminds me of Die Hard 3 , when Samual L Jackson gets that gold bar and uses it 2 break the car window, and then he leaves the gold bar in the back of car 4 the guy 2 find
Yeah, I remember that.

Stupid git :lol:

[clocker]

Do any of you guys have any justifcation for the assumption that this gold is being stolen?

Thought not.

[J'Pol]

Here's a version of the story. (http://www.strategypage.com/gallery/default.asp?target=goldentruck.htm)

I have to say I am extremelly dubious about this whole thing. If that is gold then the ingots must be hollow. The whole thing just doesn't look right.

[pol]

Originally posted by JPaul@21 September 2003 - 15:04
Here's a version of the story. (http://www.strategypage.com/gallery/default.asp?target=goldentruck.htm)

I have to say I am extremelly dubious about this whole thing. If that is gold then the ingots must be hollow. The whole thing just doesn't look right.


a jeweller i know once told me (in the pub :D) that all the gold ever found would fit into an area the size of a football (soccer) goal area (square).

i dont know much about this story, but if the jeweller was right (and its not impossible that he's wrong, if you know what i mean :huh:) then that would be a shitload of gold to missing, like even on a world scale. just a thought :rolleyes:.

[lynx]

A truck that size would carry about 12 tonnes of oil. It looks like the tank is about a quarter full of 'gold'. If it really was gold, it would weigh about 65-70 tonnes. How is it that the axle isn't bent, the springs aren't at the bottom etc?

[pol]

another good point, i refer you to my last one :rolleyes:

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by pol+21 September 2003 - 16:42--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (pol @ 21 September 2003 - 16:42)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-JPaul@21 September 2003 - 15:04
Here&#39;s a version of the story. (http://www.strategypage.com/gallery/default.asp?target=goldentruck.htm)

I have to say I am extremelly dubious about this whole thing. If that is gold then the ingots must be hollow. The whole thing just doesn&#39;t look right.


a jeweller i know once told me (in the pub :D) that all the gold ever found would fit into an area the size of a football (soccer) goal area (square).

i dont know much about this story, but if the jeweller was right (and its not impossible that he&#39;s wrong, if you know what i mean :huh:) then that would be a shitload of gold to missing, like even on a world scale. just a thought :rolleyes:. [/b][/quote]
The Bank of England has a total gold reserve of 700 tonnes, at least a chap I know within the banking sector told me that.

[pol]

well, i dont know much about football :rolleyes: so you&#39;ll have to help me out with the dimensions JPaul, and if you wouldnt mind squaring it then doing the rest of the math, it would be much appreciated ;)

[clocker]

Pol,

I think that your jeweler friend was waaaay off.

[pol]

well, as i said that was a possibilty :ph34r: but i was hoping that maybe someone else would have heard of this, perhaps we better wait till JP gets back with the results ;)

[clocker]

According to World Gold Council (http://www.gold.org/value/stats/statistics/archive/index.php) as of this month, total world gold reserves are 32,092 tons.
This does not even include the countless tons that have gone into jewelry, gold plating, etc.

[pol]

okay :rolleyes: , so now we have to work out the area that would fill - up for it anyone ?


edit - didnt notice your &#39;countless&#39; do you reckon it could really be countless ?

[Illuminati]

Originally posted by pol@21 September 2003 - 17:03
okay :rolleyes: , so now we have to work out the area that would fill - up for it anyone ?
All that is needed now is the density of pure Gold, and it can be worked out

Anyone know it, perchance? ;)

[clocker]

Originally posted by pol@21 September 2003 - 09:03



edit - didnt notice your &#39;countless&#39; do you reckon it could really be countless ?
"Countless" in the sense that I don&#39;t know how you could possibly gather it all together and determine a weight.

[clocker]

A cubic meter of gold will weigh 19.3 tonnes

[pol]

Originally posted by clocker+21 September 2003 - 16:25--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker &#064; 21 September 2003 - 16:25)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-pol@21 September 2003 - 09:03



edit - didnt notice your &#39;countless&#39; do you reckon it could really be countless ?
"Countless" in the sense that I don&#39;t know how you could possibly gather it all together and determine a weight.[/b][/quote]
sorry, got caught away the bored thread :D - @clocker, according to the jeweller, it was &#39;all the gold ever found&#39; :huh: , so i was wondering just what the mass would be roughly

[Illuminati]

Density = mass / volume

Rearranged -> Volume = Mass / Density

Mass = 32092 E6 kg
Density = 19.3 E6 kgm^-3 (Thanks for working it out so I could make sure, clocker ;))
Volume = V

V = 32092 / 19.3
= 1663 m^3

Work out the size of the net yourself ;)

[clocker]

Who knows?

Just using the verifiable gold reserves though the figure comes to about 1663 cubic meters.

Somewhat larger than a soccer goal, I should imagine.

[pol]

i cant visualize 1663 c/metres :huh: - what do you reckon its the equivalent of ?

[Rat Faced]

Looking at the original pictures.......look at the end of the Bar he is holding in the 4th one..

To me that looks like Gold Paint flaking off something Brown..such as a clay brick. This would explain why he appears to find it so light.

Looks like another propaganda story, in which we will never find out the truth.

[clocker]

RF, you may be right and we&#39;ll never know.

But... that&#39;s a awfully weird shape for a clay brick. Not really too useful for stacking, is it?

Also, I don&#39;t know if you&#39;ve ever seen gold ingots, but at the Denver Mint you used to be able to view some ( probably not anymore, with all the new security restrictions) and they are surprisingly crude looking.

Not trying to be argumentitive here, it is possible that this is phoney, but I think it&#39;s just as likely that it&#39;s not, based on the pictures posted.

[hobbes]

http://www.dprkorea-trade.com/metals/gold.jpgHere is a picture of some gold I use as paperweights.
Although I don&#39;t like to think so, it looks like gold spray paint.

Real gold should not be lumpy, as we are talking about processed bars which should have formed to the shape of the mold. There should be no convex bulges as we see in picture 4.

The stuff is gold colored, but it lacks the lustre of real gold. Well, if they polished it, it would look better, right? Wrong. The reason gold is a precious metal is that it does not oxidize (rust) so it will last forever.




As for the weight, I think you guys are correct. To hold a bar in that way, he would have to have his elbow tucked against his torso for support.

[james_bond_rulez]

u use gold bars as paper weight?

what kind of sick rich bastard are you???

just kidding :lol:

[Pitbul]

Originally posted by cpt_azad@21 September 2003 - 01:27
it&#39;s belongs to the iraqi ppl, not to americans, not to saddam, and definately not to "BROWN". damn american government, i wonder what&#39;s next? iran?
watch your mouth stereotypical asshole.

[Pitbul]

Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@21 September 2003 - 00:56
he&#39;s holding the gold brick like it&#39;s his...

greedy americans
i think if i was holding a gold brick i&#39;d want to be proud keep your mouth shut pussy ass Canadian or come down the boarder and we&#39;ll shove a shotgun up your ass and pull ths trigger. B)

[Pitbul]

these 2 previous post of mine has shown how us americans can also stereotype people from diffrent countries just as quick as they can us. if you do know live in American or have even been here dont try and comment on our society and how we act.

[3rd gen noob]

as has already been pointed out, gold is approx 19.3 times more dense than water

one cubic metre of water weighs 1 metric tonne, therefore 1 cubic metre of gold weighs 19.3 metric tonnes

quite a bit of weight (mass)...

[RGX]

I agree, that gold is flaking off something, and I also totaly agree about the truck not sagging that amount of gold would have the bearings cracking

[james_bond_rulez]

wow a capitalist pig and a nazi

you didn&#39;t do a very good job at convincing to us what your government did what they&#39;ve done and why.

if you&#39;ve done anything at all it&#39;s that you&#39;ve reinforced our stereotypical comments.

Americans aren&#39;t there to help to build Iraq, they are there to rob them dry and deplete them of their wealth. It&#39;s not stereotypical, it&#39;s a fact.

[iamhere]

Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@21 September 2003 - 21:02
wow a capitalist pig and a nazi

you didn&#39;t do a very good job at convincing to us what your government did what they&#39;ve done and why.

if you&#39;ve done anything at all it&#39;s that you&#39;ve reinforced our stereotypical comments.

Americans aren&#39;t there to help to build Iraq, they are there to rob them dry and deplete them of their wealth. It&#39;s not stereotypical, it&#39;s a fact.

Sounds like you are jelous and I guess your govt wishes they thought of it first.

[clocker]

Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@21 September 2003 - 14:02


Americans aren&#39;t there to help to build Iraq, they are there to rob them dry and deplete them of their wealth. It&#39;s not stereotypical, it&#39;s a fact.
So far the plan seems to be working out pretty well, don&#39;t you agree? <_<

[Illuminati]

Looks like a surge in pro/anti-USA flaming may be on the horizon. :rolleyes:

With respect to both sides - Does anyone object me entering my Anti-Bullshit Bunker? <_<

[Smith]

:D silly americans, that gold is 4 iraqi ppl

[noname12]

Gold looks dodgey to me, second I dont think some one like saddam (regardless of how idiotic the americans think he is) would have all his gold driven around or hidden in a truck, he had all his gold either in his secret underground bunkers or had it melted down and made stuff out of it. Knowing the greedy b*sterd the only thing he packed with him when he ran off was his gold. Besides I dont think the Iraqi people have gold on there mind&#39;s right now, I would think they&#39;re thinking where the hell is the electricity and water supplies :P

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by noname12@22 September 2003 - 00:23
Knowing the greedy b*sterd
you know saddam hussein?
better get to the fbi and give them information about him...

:rolleyes:

[noname12]

my secret is out. :ph34r:

[bigboab]

The whole thing is a con. It is all just a play with words and hype. Anyone could produce a fly spray and say it is a weapon of mass destruction. As for holding up the gold bar, there is actually a wee skinny guy just behind him holding it for him.

[james_bond_rulez]

Originally posted by Illuminati@21 September 2003 - 23:13
Looks like a surge in pro/anti-USA flaming may be on the horizon. :rolleyes:

With respect to both sides - Does anyone object me entering my Anti-Bullshit Bunker? <_<
I am not anti american , but I dont approve what the american gov&#39;n is doing to help peace in the middle east.

Americans are only looking after their political future and interests. It will be foolish to think that America government would send it&#39;s army, get rid of Saddam, free Iraqi ppl, and politely retreat and swallow all that expenses on its own. Bush has other plans for Iraqi oil and its wealth and using that wealth to rebuild Iraq is the last in the list.

[Illuminati]

Originally posted by james_bond_rulez+22 September 2003 - 05:37--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (james_bond_rulez &#064; 22 September 2003 - 05:37)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Illuminati@21 September 2003 - 23:13
Looks like a surge in pro/anti-USA flaming may be on the horizon. :rolleyes:

With respect to both sides - Does anyone object me entering my Anti-Bullshit Bunker? <_<
I am not anti american , but I dont approve what the american gov&#39;n is doing to help peace in the middle east.

Americans are only looking after their political future and interests. It will be foolish to think that America government would send it&#39;s army, get rid of Saddam, free Iraqi ppl, and politely retreat and swallow all that expenses on its own. Bush has other plans for Iraqi oil and its wealth and using that wealth to rebuild Iraq is the last in the list. [/b][/quote]
Did I distinctively point anyone out in that quote? Why did you assume you were one of those I was "indirectly mentioning"?

I rest my case <_<