Is SuperSearch worth it?

[lazor]

I'm fairly new to UseNet, and am looking into SuperSearch.

I have Alt.Binz 0.28.3, but I'm convinced SS isn't working properly in it, as it hardly finds anything(or I'm doing something wrong).

I've tried using the keygen for 3.9 of Newsleecher by FFF. That just tells me that the Giganews referral can't be verified or something, I assume the keys are related to that special offer Giganews has.

So is it worth it at all to fork out the cash for Newsleecher+SuperSearch?

[SonsOfLiberty]

You have to use the keymaker with Newsleecher not alt.binz (even though Alt.binz is just a shitty buggy old Newsleecher beta anyway), but the keys from FFF are only valid in NL, it's keys specifically to register NL and register SS...but SS could go at any time, it's only a mtter of time before Giganews or the like make a block of some sort.

And yes SS is worth it for me, 'cause I'm not paying for it. As for the money, no I would not buy it, you will get faster "search times" wth it, like for instance Lost will show up in SS about 15-20 minutes after it airs, and in Binsearch about 5 minutes later, so eh, personal taste I guess, but some people swear by SS, I do, only because it's free at least for now.

I think NL is the best client on the market, it's up to you if you decide NL is worth it or not, but the search engines will suit just fine, it takes them a few extra minutes to catch up, but it's not that much of a difference. But SS definately makes searching much easier.

[lazor]

You have to use the keymaker with Newsleecher not alt.binz (even though Alt.binz is just a shitty buggy old Newsleecher beta anyway), but the keys from FFF are only valid in NL, it's keys specifically to register NL and register SS...but SS could go at any time, it's only a mtter of time before Giganews or the like make a block of some sort.

And yes SS is worth it for me, 'cause I'm not paying for it. As for the money, no I would not buy it, you will get faster "search times" wth it, like for instance Lost will show up in SS about 15-20 minutes after it airs, and in Binsearch about 5 minutes later, so eh, personal taste I guess, but some people swear by SS, I do, only because it's free at least for now.

I think NL is the best client on the market, it's up to you if you decide NL is worth it or not, but the search engines will suit just fine, it takes them a few extra minutes to catch up, but it's not that much of a difference. But SS definately makes searching much easier.
I wasn't using the keygen with Alt.Binz.

But somehow it worked when I reinstalled NL, and SuperSearch does indeed seem useful. Now if only I could stream video using NL. I guess I'll just make an NZB using NL and open it in Alt.Binz to stream.

[UsenetGuy]

(even though Alt.binz is just a shitty buggy old Newsleecher beta anyway)

You are an idiot if you think that. :)

[SonsOfLiberty]

I am, I'd watch calling people idiots, them idots are known to be physco paths and shit :lol: Alt.binz is based off an old NL buggy beta, don't believe me, just ask around. It's even posted in both NL and Alt.binz forums...one of the dev's of NL left the company for some reason and started Alt.binz from a NL beta. You don't see how erie similiar Alt.binz is to NL?

[UsenetGuy]

I am, I'd watch calling people idiots, them idots are known to be physco paths and shit :lol: Alt.binz is based off an old NL buggy beta, don't believe me, just ask around. It's even posted in both NL and Alt.binz forums...one of the dev's of NL left the company for some reason and started Alt.binz from a NL beta. You don't see how erie similiar Alt.binz is to NL?

Alt.Binz doesn't look very similar to NewsLeecher in my opinion and I bet you can't give me a link that proves what you have said.

[SonsOfLiberty]

https://www.newsleecher.com/forum/search.php?search_author=kC_&sid=c1804f6596cb5cc8e1a0b39cff1f28ad

https://www.newsleecher.com/forum/search.php?mode=results

I found it one of those threads, can't remember which one, but I have no reason to lie, I use Alt.binz too, but it was designed from a NL Beta years ago.

It's also been talked about and mentioned here at FST.

True Story

If you need more proof, start a thread at the NL forums and ask. Now Alt.binz may not look like NL, but if you look at the features from the very first release is based on NL's code base. Now there is a article in one of those forums discussing this, and here at FST...the dev got frustrated with NL, and decided to start his own and developed Alt.binz froma NL beta source.

Why the fuck would I lie, I use Alt.binz occassionally, when NL gets to many downloads loaded, saves me the trouble of moving files up in the queue...but hey, it's feature list on the "free version" is identical to NL's, why do you think NL's supersearch is imbedded in alt.binz?

[the mighty]

How does one get SS working for free on NL? I had a version that used to work, but one day it stopped. I uninstalled it, and now whenever I seem to find a new version of Usenet and install it, it just brings up my previously uninstalled version, with the same settings and even a previous search history.

[SonsOfLiberty]

In Vista/Windows 7 go to, User,Appdata,Roaming and delete the Newsleecher folder after you've uninstalled it. Also, before uninstalling, remove the key. If you didn't remove the key, which I think (unsure) the key is removed by deleting the Appdata NL folder maybe not if not, just use Regedit and click Find and search Newsleecher and then delete the key. NL 3.9 Finall is the only one I've tested for supersearch to work...

Windows XP I assume it's User,Application Data, and then find the NL folder.

Those folder are hidden too and protected, so you need to unhide folder and unhide protected operating system files, in all OS's

When I first signed up at Giganews (i'm with astraweb now) I got the Newsbin Giganews client and supersearch came with it, at least for a few days.

[saulin]

I love supersearch. It's what I use most. I was using Newsleecher but I found that the latest betas are buggy. I guess 3.9 Final must be stable. Anyways I'm using Alt.Binz for now. And yes both of them seem to have almost the exact same features and I could see how Alt.Binz was built off NL. Oh yeah the Alt.Binz programmer now wants a $15 euro donation at least to be able to get the latest version and he added user name password protection and I believe this has not been fully cracked yet.

Oh I just saw this on usenet Alt.Binz.v0.30.0.WinAll.REAL-CRD

Maybe it's fully cracked now.

[KFlint]

I like supersearch but I would not pay for it, it's cracked in the version of NL I,m using also.

Binsearch is a good alternative if you don't want to pay or crack it.

[SonsOfLiberty]

I love supersearch. It's what I use most. I was using Newsleecher but I found that the latest betas are buggy. I guess 3.9 Final must be stable. Anyways I'm using Alt.Binz for now. And yes both of them seem to have almost the exact same features and I could see how Alt.Binz was built off NL. Oh yeah the Alt.Binz programmer now wants a $15 euro donation at least to be able to get the latest version and he added user name password protection and I believe this has not been fully cracked yet.

Oh I just saw this on usenet Alt.Binz.v0.30.0.WinAll.REAL-CRD

Maybe it's fully cracked now.

Yeah your still prompted to add user/pass...but hit cancel and you can use it, but it still has a ton of problems. The VB script used is screwed up on the IND release and the CRD release is sort of ok, their both in the soft section. Also it doesn't work well in Win 7 at least on my end. But in Vista, it would constantly freeze and what not, and NL was very buggy on my Vista box, but since I went to 7, not a single problem.

[saulin]

Hey SonsOfLiberty. Newsleecher 3.9 final is very stable right? I was trying 3.95 beta and 4.0 beta but damn they are very buggy. I love the way SS gives you the results on 4.0 beta though.

I'm using Alt.Binz because I kept getting this ramdom errors on NL saying that a bug caused an error and to restart the program and more than once NL deleted my files when attemping to repair even though the repair was not sucessful but it might have been due to the bad RAM I had. I have not have issues with any downloads getting corrupted after swapping my RAM though.

[SonsOfLiberty]

Did you have the option check to delete file on auto unrar? I've been using Windows 7 for about a month, NL's been installed that long and hasn't glitched on me at all...it used to a bit on Vista, but if you delete the Appdata for NL and restart it works great, you have to resetup everything though, and Alt.binz (free) was even worse, it would 'cause me to hard re-boot everytime I would run it for more than 5 minutes.

[Hecks]

I love supersearch. It's what I use most. I was using Newsleecher but I found that the latest betas are buggy. I guess 3.9 Final must be stable. Anyways I'm using Alt.Binz for now. And yes both of them seem to have almost the exact same features and I could see how Alt.Binz was built off NL. Oh yeah the Alt.Binz programmer now wants a $15 euro donation at least to be able to get the latest version and he added user name password protection and I believe this has not been fully cracked yet.

Oh I just saw this on usenet Alt.Binz.v0.30.0.WinAll.REAL-CRD

Maybe it's fully cracked now.

Yeah your still prompted to add user/pass...but hit cancel and you can use it, but it still has a ton of problems. The VB script used is screwed up on the IND release and the CRD release is sort of ok, their both in the soft section. Also it doesn't work well in Win 7 at least on my end. But in Vista, it would constantly freeze and what not, and NL was very buggy on my Vista box, but since I went to 7, not a single problem.

As you keep repeating this on the site, I feel like I need to point out what we now know about these 'cracked' versions. They contain a trojan that installs a keylogger and runs it invisibly (that's what the vbs does). This eventually sends an email to a gmail account with the subject: 'Hacked Passwords'. If NLSS isn't working in it, the code is 0.28.5 and not 0.30.0.

We @ the Alt.Binz forum know this from sandbox testing and from users with compromised accounts. Needless to say, the dev had nothing to do with making or circulating this trojan. You'll be skeptical I'm sure ... but still, I thought I'd do the right thing and give you a heads up, do with it what you will.

-Hecks

[SonsOfLiberty]

Maybe the dev should'nt used a NL beta for his base code either.

BTW- I just summited both file to ESET so we shall see.

[Hecks]

Maybe the dev should'nt used a NL beta for his base code either.

BTW- I just summited both file to ESET so we shall see.

I'm also unsure where you get this idea that Alt.Binz somehow uses Newsleecher code. This has never been the case. They're both created in Delphi, and inevitably use some of the same packages, but that's where the similarity ends. Alt.Binz was built from the ground up on original code, as can be seen from the earliest versions.

Anyway, hope that's clarified some things for you.

-Hecks

[SonsOfLiberty]

It has, but the dev left NL right? And then moved to the Alt.binz project and built it from that...correct? I'm mean it's been mentioned before in the Newsleecher forums on many occassions. Yes I use the free version at times, but is buggy as hell, so why would NL people say it was built from one of their old beta? Are they lieing?

Also, I've not heard anything back from ESET, probably be a few days

[Hecks]

It has, but the dev left NL right? And then moved to the Alt.binz project and built it from that...correct? I'm mean it's been mentioned before in the Newsleecher forums on many occassions. Yes I use the free version at times, but is buggy as hell, so why would NL people say it was built from one of their old beta? Are they lieing?

Also, I've not heard anything back from ESET, probably be a few days, and if it's such a bad threat, why are you letting users get infected then? Because their pirates or because pirates feal that a $15 donation is a little extreme?

No, the dev (Rdl) was never connected with NL. I don't know the threads to which you're referring, but I can't imagine that they're anything but misguided speculation - links?

On the other point: I'm not sure what you think we can do about it. The free version of Alt.Binz is distributed through the site http://www.altbinz.net, and the latest versions from the Contributors forum. The trojans haven't been coming from there, I assure you. They were posted to usenet by what we must assume are just opportunists who saw the crack requests. Who knows why people do these things.

If you or anyone else wants to check whether their system has been compromised, why not install wireshark and see whether anything is phoning home. Hopefully decent AV will have picked it up and protected from the worst damage.

As for problems with 0.25.0: well, I can only speak from experience at the Alt.Binz forums. For 99% of users, it's rock solid. For the rest, we try as best we can to work out what's interfering with it on the users system. Top culprits so far have been: AV packages, intrusive firewalls, bad memory, bad HD, badly configured setup.

-Hecks

[SonsOfLiberty]

It has, but the dev left NL right? And then moved to the Alt.binz project and built it from that...correct? I'm mean it's been mentioned before in the Newsleecher forums on many occassions. Yes I use the free version at times, but is buggy as hell, so why would NL people say it was built from one of their old beta? Are they lieing?

Also, I've not heard anything back from ESET, probably be a few days, and if it's such a bad threat, why are you letting users get infected then? Because their pirates or because pirates feal that a $15 donation is a little extreme?

No, the dev (Rdl) was never connected with NL. I don't know the threads to which you're referring, but I can't imagine that they're anything but misguided speculation - links?

On the other point: I'm not sure what you think we can do about it. The free version of Alt.Binz is distributed through the site http://www.altbinz.net, and the latest versions from the Contributors forum. The trojans haven't been coming from there, I assure you. They were posted to usenet by what we must assume are just opportunists who saw the crack requests. Who knows why people do these things.

If you or anyone else wants to check whether their system has been compromised, why not install wireshark and see whether anything is phoning home. Hopefully decent AV will have picked it up and protected from the worst damage.

As for problems with 0.25.0: well, I can only speak from experience at the Alt.Binz forums. For 99% of users, it's rock solid. For the rest, we try as best we can to work out what's interfering with it on the users system. Top culprits so far have been: AV packages, intrusive firewalls, bad memory, bad HD, badly configured setup.

-Hecks

I assure you I have no bad setup, it's a band new system, I had Vista on it, brand new built from scratch everything...it would constatnly freeze my PC and be forced to to a hard re-boot. AV is ESET, Firewall Is Commodo. And I'm not a noob on setup, so I've checked and checked and gave up. Maybe it was just Vista :lol: Like I said, ESET will be contacting me hopefully soon and we can all see if it is indeed a trojan that phones home. My thoughts on the cracking situation is take donations back down to where there once where, if no one has noticed, no one has money to spend, hence the program being cracked. On the other hand, if ESET says it doesn't phone home and doesn't hack people then what?

BTW, what do I keep repeating you mentioned in your first post? That both cracked version seem like they are virus's? If you look in the software section you can clearly see I stated ESET picked them up.

[Hecks]

No, the dev (Rdl) was never connected with NL. I don't know the threads to which you're referring, but I can't imagine that they're anything but misguided speculation - links?

On the other point: I'm not sure what you think we can do about it. The free version of Alt.Binz is distributed through the site http://www.altbinz.net, and the latest versions from the Contributors forum. The trojans haven't been coming from there, I assure you. They were posted to usenet by what we must assume are just opportunists who saw the crack requests. Who knows why people do these things.

If you or anyone else wants to check whether their system has been compromised, why not install wireshark and see whether anything is phoning home. Hopefully decent AV will have picked it up and protected from the worst damage.

As for problems with 0.25.0: well, I can only speak from experience at the Alt.Binz forums. For 99% of users, it's rock solid. For the rest, we try as best we can to work out what's interfering with it on the users system. Top culprits so far have been: AV packages, intrusive firewalls, bad memory, bad HD, badly configured setup.

-Hecks

I assure you I have no bad setup, it's a band new system, I had Vista on it, brand new built from scratch everything...it would constatnly freeze my PC and be forced to to a hard re-boot. AV is ESET, Firewall Is Commodo. And I'm not a noob on setup, so I've checked and checked and gave up. Maybe it was just Vista :lol: Like I said, ESET will be contacting me hopefully soon and we can all see if it is indeed a trojan that phones home. My thoughts on the cracking situation is take donations back down to where there once where, if no one has noticed, no one has money to spend, hence the program being cracked. On the other hand, if ESET says it doesn't phone home and doesn't hack people then what?

BTW, what do I keep repeating you mentioned in your first post? That both cracked version seem like they are virus's? If you look in the software section you can clearly see I stated ESET picked them up.

As before, I can only go on past experience on the Alt.Binz forum. It would be good to get definite word from a source that you trust - but what we already know is that users who installed the 'cracked' versions out of curiosity have had their forum accounts hacked.

Donations: well, this seems to be a situation in which the dev can never win. He introduced the minimum amount just recently in response to complaints that there *wasn't* one, lol. That still makes Alt.Binz half the cost at least of clients such as Newsleecher, Newsrover, Newsbin Pro, etc. The usenet community tends to think a bit differently than the P2P community about these things, I find. What we all understand is that having a really good client is absolutely vital - it's your gateway to the riches of usent, after all. After a couple of years of public versions, Rdl decided he just couldn't keep giving his time for free - a lot of time, as it happens. So it was a simple choice for us punters, really: let Alt.Binz stay as it was, or see it continue to grow and develop with new features by making a (single) modest contribution as a motivation for the dev. Well, when I say 'we' I mean the 2,000+ contributors so far.

Anyway, I don't want to hijack this thread any more than I already have, so I'll say my goodbyes for now. ;)

-Hecks

[Skiz]

I was just testing this out and my AV picked up the virus before the unrar was even complete.

http://i41.tinypic.com/34nles3.jpg

[saulin]

I was just testing this out and my AV picked up the virus before the unrar was even complete.

http://i41.tinypic.com/34nles3.jpg

Which release did you download. I still have the CRD release on my HDD and I scanned it with Kaspersky AV and it still comes out clean.


You would think that Kaspersky would have caught it as a trojan/virus by now???

I have not tried it though. As always only download stuff with propper nfo file attached and with the original scene release name only. AFAIK CRD is an actual warez group that have made a few app releases too. Which AV are picking up CRD's release as a trojan?

[SonsOfLiberty]

Both vesion are infected, both ESET and VirusTotal (more than a 50%) says they are, they might not be, but who know for sure...like said in another thread, I put out a scene notice to both iND and CRD to see if they "really" did release these.

[piratebot]

Not sure why the 'scene' would want to crack this software.

[Skiz]

Altbinz.0.30.0.CRACKED-iND

Needless to say it's the last thing I ever download from iND.

As for Kaspersky, I find their services inadequate for my needs. You may as well.

[saulin]

If both are infected then for sure they are not scene releases. I'll send it to kaspersky and find out what's going on and why Kaspersky doesn't pick it up. So ESET is picking it up?

[Skiz]

Indeed. So is AVG.

[UsenetGuy]

Altbinz.0.30.0.CRACKED-iND

Needless to say it's the last thing I ever download from iND.

As for Kaspersky, I find their services inadequate for my needs. You may as well.

iND is not a specific person/group, it means an individual released it. If you are not part of a group then you are supposed to tag it as -iND. If you ever come accross another iND release then most likely it'll be from someone else and not related in any way. :)

I've not tried these cracked versions yet, dont need to, I contributed :P


If both are infected then for sure they are not scene releases. I'll send it to kaspersky and find out what's going on and why Kaspersky doesn't pick it up. So ESET is picking it up?

Actually the scene puts out quite a lot of crap and dodgy stuff, heck it wouldn't surprise me if they got the cracked altbinz from usenet and just repacked it.



I assure you I have no bad setup, it's a band new system, I had Vista on it, brand new built from scratch everything...it would constatnly freeze my PC and be forced to to a hard re-boot. AV is ESET, Firewall Is Commodo.

Go through advanced settings in NOD32 and make sure you haven't got advanced heuristics enabled for anything. It's overkill and tends to make some apps crash.

[SonsOfLiberty]

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Alt.Binz v0.30.0 - NEEDS TO BE CRACKED!!!
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General Information
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Type.................: Application
Platform.............: Windows 9x/ME/2000
Compression Format...: ZIP


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Release Notes
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This needs to be cracked to use. I am posting this so a group or an individual
can do so. Alt.Binz, is a great news reader and is worth the 15 euros (approx
$20) asking price, however the creator and some of the admins aren't worth shit.
Lets keep this news reader open for all the usenet community to use :)

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Install Notes
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1: Install the altbinz0.25.exe, then browse to where it is installed.

2: Overwrite the altbinz.exe with the one from the Altbinz v0.30.0 folder.


Posted on usenet, then posted to VDOWN, then posted to a few other sites that might have a workig fix for it :lol:

And yes that contains the "un touched" contributed download exe :ghey:

Real scene cracks are generally caught by AV's, reason being, the software used to actually crack it. Also, AV companies want your money, so they do that also to make you think you have a tojan or whatever, and these heuristic scanners now-a-days are stupidly over protective.

[saulin]

Ok I submitted this file to

http://virusscan.jotti.org/

and according to that site kaspersky AV should pick it up as not-a-virus:PSWTool.Win32.Messen.bh as well.

However I get no warning or anything. It says that is ok. I'm using the lastest 2009 AV and the difinitions from today. I tested it on 2 computers. I tried to submit the file to Kaspersky but they have a stupid limit of 1.5MB and even compressed is bigger than that, well both files seem to be infected. I guess is time to change AV too. Even though apparantely Kaspersky should be picking this up.

[SonsOfLiberty]

Go to VirusTotal and look around and you can get some good comparisions on the AVs.

[saulin]

Kaspersky is supposed to be at the top along with NOD32. I have kaspersky on 2 computers at home and NOD32 on the other 2.

[SonsOfLiberty]

Yeah, I've generally stuck with AVG and Avira and Avast, until recently I started using NOD, so KAS is fine, like I said, if Kas says it's fine it very well could be, I am not a AV expert so I can not say for sure if it's a TRUE virus or not.

[PirateInternet]

I didn't get any warnings on my Avira Security Suite. I do like the free supersearch. :)

[Hecks]

Posted on usenet, then posted to VDOWN, then posted to a few other sites that might have a workig fix for it :lol:

And yes that contains the "un touched" contributed download exe :ghey:


This is the thanks? Well, at least I know not to waste my time again.

-Hecks

[SonsOfLiberty]

Posted on usenet, then posted to VDOWN, then posted to a few other sites that might have a workig fix for it :lol:

And yes that contains the "un touched" contributed download exe :ghey:


This is the thanks? Well, at least I know not to waste my time again.

-Hecks

Hmmmm, I didn't post that to usenet, I found it there, I did not post it to VD someone else did, and did not at other warez sites as well, but no one has cracked it or is working tooooooo crack it because they don't want to..so it's pointless to get upset, since, I did not post it, second I did not donate, so how do I have the untouched exe? Someone at the Alt.binz forums is obviously pissed at the admins/mods and did this. That was just some info I dug up, besides the forum it's posted at it's internal, and "rarely" does anything leak or get pre'd/posted else where.

BTW, if it's hacking password it's hacking legit users who are for whatever reason installing this and using a password username, may I ask why they would do that? That sounds, well, you know, not smart.

[cimithan]

Donations: well, this seems to be a situation in which the dev can never win. He introduced the minimum amount just recently in response to complaints that there *wasn't* one, lol. That still makes Alt.Binz half the cost at least of clients such as Newsleecher, Newsrover, Newsbin Pro, etc. The usenet community tends to think a bit differently than the P2P community about these things, I find. What we all understand is that having a really good client is absolutely vital
-Hecks

IMHO Your beloved news client is not that good.

Sorry :(