3rd Gen Noob, A Review Of Your New Card?

[adamp2p]

3rd gen, we deserve a good review of your card. How does it perform in DX9 games? We want to know all the details...

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[adamp2p]

bump...still waiting... :huh:

[3rd gen noob]

hi, sorry about the delay, but i've been installing my new hardware and formatting/reinstalling windows, doing uni stuff etc...

anyway, onto the card :D

well, first impressions were great. it's got a nice looking blue pcb, with a huge heatsink on both sides of the card (also blue), as shown in the review linked to in the other post.
it was easy to install, just had to install the new drivers after windows reinstall and it was good to go. i installed the tyan monitor too, lets me see the temps on the card, voltages and change the fan speed easily

onto performance. i was impressed to see i can now run midnight club 2 at 1280x1024x32, with full effects smoothly, no lag :D

however, any application of AA at this res did slow the card down noticably

i was able to run battlefield 1942 (patched to v1.1) at 1024x768x32 with 4XAA and 8XAnisotropic filtering at an average 45fps :D

3dMark 03 also threw up a surprise. i was actually able to watch the the tests, in comparison to my old cards performance of 2-3 fps (no joke) i was getting 20fps. i got a final score of 3340, not too bad at stock speeds

[(>Zero Cool<)]

Originally posted by 3rd gen noob@25 September 2003 - 21:35
hi, sorry about the delay, but i&#39;ve been installing my new hardware and formatting/reinstalling windows, doing uni stuff etc...

anyway, onto the card :D

well, first impressions were great. it&#39;s got a nice looking blue pcb, with a huge heatsink on both sides of the card (also blue), as shown in the review linked to in the other post.
it was easy to install, just had to install the new drivers after windows reinstall and it was good to go. i installed the tyan monitor too, lets me see the temps on the card, voltages and change the fan speed easily

onto performance. i was impressed to see i can now run midnight club 2 at 1280x1024x32, with full effects smoothly, no lag :D

however, any application of AA at this res did slow the card down noticably

i was able to run battlefield 1942 (patched to v1.1) at 1024x768x32 with 4XAA and 8XAnisotropic filtering at an average 45fps :D

3dMark 03 also threw up a surprise. i was actually able to watch the the tests, in comparison to my old cards performance of 2-3 fps (no joke) i was getting 20fps. i got a final score of 3340, not too bad at stock speeds
ehhhhhhh........so it&#39;s quite good then is it? :unsure: :blink:

[MUSLEMAN]

Originally posted by 3rd gen noob@25 September 2003 - 17:35
hi, sorry about the delay, but i&#39;ve been installing my new hardware and formatting/reinstalling windows, doing uni stuff etc...

anyway, onto the card :D

well, first impressions were great. it&#39;s got a nice looking blue pcb, with a huge heatsink on both sides of the card (also blue), as shown in the review linked to in the other post.
it was easy to install, just had to install the new drivers after windows reinstall and it was good to go. i installed the tyan monitor too, lets me see the temps on the card, voltages and change the fan speed easily

onto performance. i was impressed to see i can now run midnight club 2 at 1280x1024x32, with full effects smoothly, no lag :D

however, any application of AA at this res did slow the card down noticably

i was able to run battlefield 1942 (patched to v1.1) at 1024x768x32 with 4XAA and 8XAnisotropic filtering at an average 45fps :D

3dMark 03 also threw up a surprise. i was actually able to watch the the tests, in comparison to my old cards performance of 2-3 fps (no joke) i was getting 20fps. i got a final score of 3340, not too bad at stock speeds
sound great now send it to me so i can see for myself :lol:

[3RA1N1AC]

Originally posted by adamp2p@23 September 2003 - 20:22
3rd gen, we deserve a good review of your card. How does it perform in DX9 games? We want to know all the details...
eh??? i don&#39;t think this thread has mentioned precisely which card is being discussed? :huh:

[(>Zero Cool<)]

Originally posted by 3RA1N1AC+26 September 2003 - 00:04--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3RA1N1AC @ 26 September 2003 - 00:04)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-adamp2p@23 September 2003 - 20:22
3rd gen, we deserve a good review of your card.&nbsp; How does it perform in DX9 games?&nbsp; We want to know all the details...
eh??? i don&#39;t think this thread has mentioned precisely which card is being discussed? :huh: [/b][/quote]
I believe this i the fella in question, there was over a hundred a couple of days back, looks like Mr Gen&#39;s review worked wonders :D

Mr Gen&#39;s new toy (http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=51440)

[3RA1N1AC]

hmm, okay then.

congratulations on your purchase, 3rd gen noob. looks like a nice little piece of overclockers&#39; kit, there, what with those blue heatsinks on the memory... ;)

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by 3RA1N1AC@26 September 2003 - 00:21
hmm, okay then.

congratulations on your purchase, 3rd gen noob. looks like a nice little piece of overclockers&#39; kit, there, what with those blue heatsinks on the memory... ;)
thanks

apparently blue heatsinks can yield 10% better results than any other colour...i heard that from someone once... :rolleyes:

[3rd gen noob]

here&#39;s a ss of my 3dMark 03 results at 1024x768:

http://www.arap78.dsl.pipex.com/3dmark.JPG

[adamp2p]

Here are shot&#39;s of n0ob&#39;s card:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/video/tyan-tachyon-g9600pro/tyan_g9600_front_800.jpg

and

http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/video/tyan-tachyon-g9600pro/tyan_g9600_back_800.jpg

Sounds from this review that the card actually overclocks okay. It sounds like you got a major boost from your last card. So how does it feel to be ATI?

The following is a quote from Xbit labs:
"I overclocked the card with the help of Rage3D Tweaker version 3.8 as the frequency range offered by TGM seemed too narrow. The graphics chip sped up to amazing 525MHz without a screech, while the memory could do nothing better than +10MHz. Otherwise, there were horrible artefacts in the picture. The main reason for this is the slow memory chips, and also the insufficient cooling (a bad contact between the chips and the heatsink). So, I had to stop at 305MHz (610MHz DDR) mark, which can hardly be even called overclocking. So, the 0.13micron process provided the graphics chip with huge overclocking potential, but the memory of this card doesn’t match the GPU. By the way, recalling our overclocking experience with Tyan Tachyon G9500 PRO, I can say that the memory chips on that card also were a bottleneck.

As for 2D quality, it’s all right, just like by Tachyon G9500 PRO. A slight blur of the image appeared in 1600x1200@85Hz only."

Oh, and did you get a chance to play with Rage 3d tweak?

[3rd gen noob]

i&#39;ve not had a chance to try and overclock it yet, i&#39;m pretty happy with the performance as it is just now, really...it&#39;s a huge leap over my last card, hopefully it&#39;ll be able to play half life 2 at decent resolutions/quality levels...

as for the swap from nvidia to ati, well, i&#39;ve only had a few minor quibbles...i did have one hang whilst playing battlefield 1942 and also, i noticed a kind of a &#39;jump&#39; in games, where the display was perfectly smooth and the framerates were high, however, every couple of hundred frames there was a &#39;jump&#39; in the action
that seems to have gone now though

[adamp2p]

For optimal performance, why don&#39;t you step down to 800 X 600 X 32?

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by adamp2p@26 September 2003 - 04:15
For optimal performance, why don&#39;t you step down to 800 X 600 X 32?
i suppose that&#39;s an easy solution, but if i ran it at a lower resolution, i&#39;d have more jaggies, so i&#39;d need aa on...i&#39;ll try it out though

[adamp2p]

My Radeon 9500 (successful soft mod pro 9500) runs well at 1024X768 with 4X antialising. How about vertical sync? Off of course.

I mentioned to you before about the ATI Radeon 9x00 series tweak guide (http://www.techspot.com/tweaks/radeon/index.shtml)

That is a decent introduction to Rage3d and is definately worth your reading. There are many many many available tweakable settings available through Rage3d tweak. There are many available options for various configurations.

"Rage3D had a chat with Terry Makedon, developer in chief of the Catalyst drivers, Joe Chien, director of software at ATI in Silicon Valley and Ben BH, the ATI software VP.

A worth read with some interesting informations and you can read the log over here (http://homeless.progameplayer.com/Rage3D.log.txt)"

Have fun&#33; B)

[TClite]

having the burden of being noobs mate, i saw the card first hand and can honestly say it was superb, currently im stocked with an Nvidia geforce 3 ti 200 (128MB) which will play most things but with up and coming releases my card could and will no doubt struggle, it manages most things at 30fps+, but ill be forking over the money for this card, besides i opened a student account with natwest which gives me £55 quid just for joining and an interest FREE overdraft of £1250 a year, which i dont pay back till i graduate, so i might buy a 9700pro all in wonder just to pull one over noob :P

seriously though, those among you who aspire for the likes of the 9700 9800 series take a step "back" to this, and overclock if need be, with the £200+ quid saved you could invest in a new cpu

[adamp2p]

Soooo, you are Noob&#39;s pal.

Seems as if you resolved your motherboard issue.

[adamp2p]

woops

[TClite]

yeah mates for a long time now, both doing the uni thing together same course and all that. Yeah mobo is looking sharp...lol

[3rd gen noob]

i&#39;m only using him for his money actually :rolleyes:

thanks for the links again, i&#39;ll take a look...:)

i did manage to oc the card to 520/620 this morning with no problems in 3dmark 03 though, but i don&#39;t have the results...i&#39;ll test again later and post the results

[adamp2p]

What are you guys studying at uni? My advice for you: work your ass off while you are young and retire early.

Learn how to do what everyone else thinks is hard and call it easy. That is how ya make money in this day and age (IMHO). B)

[TClite]

computer science at strathclyde, yeah we&#39;ll stick in mate :D