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LRG
05-18-2009, 04:17 AM
Like the title says im looking for some ideas for a new tracker,ideas must include-

Source you want.
Content you want.
Things you like to see on a tracker.
Things you dont like to see.
Things important to you personally.
And also what you want out of the tracker.

This really is a chance to say what you want to see and hopefully get it. If your just going to post theres so many 0day sites already forget it then dont.

Regards

LRG:D

cinephilia
05-18-2009, 04:21 AM
the real question is: what do YOU want to share with people...

VinX
05-18-2009, 04:30 AM
Source you want.
Content you want.
Things you like to see on a tracker.
Things you dont like to see.
Things important to you personally.
And also what you want out of the tracker.

Source : Scene or luelinks .. or normal p2p if u r starting a general 0-day tracker
Content : General .. like Movies , TV , XXX , 0-Day , Games , MP3/MV
Things you like to see on a tracker. : Packs + activity on the tracker also in forums
Things you dont like to see. : umm , difficult but bad layout and bad grafix
Things important to you personally. : A Community with proper torrents
And also what you want out of the tracker : The main thing is to get data from the tracker .. but it will be hard if u r making a 0day to challenge the use of tracker .. coz most people use revtt, TL , others as their primary source ..


if u wanna start a music tracker :
Source : User Rips + Scene Mp3's + any other sources ...
Content : Music ... lots .. all genres . OR , u can start a speciallized tracker .. for trance or house ...
well the last questions are the same :P


Good Luck :)

cinephilia
05-18-2009, 04:36 AM
don't you think we have enough 0day trackers around ? :pinch:

AkaiDoresu
05-18-2009, 04:44 AM
It really takes lots of money and connections to build a competitive 0day tracker. I'd rather like to see a specialized content. The things that come to my mind are:
-Literature Only (And I dont mean e-learning)
-Music-Videos (A competition to the music-vids that is the only specialized tracker in this category)
-Specialized Knowledge content (Like AOM for Magic, Occult.bz for occultism etc) - this can touch pretty much any topic.
-Art/design tracker (where people can also publish their own work)
-Particular Sport tracker (for example soccer)
-Specialized Music Tracker (i.e genre, language etc).

davide89
05-18-2009, 04:51 AM
Like the title says im looking for some ideas for a new tracker,ideas must include-

Source you want.
Content you want.
Things you like to see on a tracker.
Things you dont like to see.
Things important to you personally.
And also what you want out of the tracker.

This really is a chance to say what you want to see and hopefully get it. If your just going to post theres so many 0day sites already forget it then dont.

Regards

LRG:D

we dont want another shit on the net
there are overmuch trackers, 90% of them are SHIT
yours would be the next

VinX
05-18-2009, 04:56 AM
no no no no .. no one can compete to the mighty MV // imo

-Particular Sport tracker (for example soccer) ... umm maybe tennis // not many tennis trackers ..

saulin
05-18-2009, 05:00 AM
Create a magazines and ebook tracker only. I would leave it on free leech and anyone should be able to upload content. Of course there should be rules for uploading. I think that it being free leech and users being able to upload content should make it grow fast. Leave it open untill it has a descent user database and lots of content. It should be organized with categories for everything.

lysine
05-18-2009, 05:02 AM
Things you like to see on a tracker.


something original.

if you're asking for ideas on a website like this, you don't have it.

shipwreck
05-18-2009, 05:28 AM
A (strictly) scene music tracker with a proper archive is currently lacking, as discussed in other threads already.

AkaiDoresu
05-18-2009, 05:40 AM
no no no no .. no one can compete to the mighty MV // imo

-Particular Sport tracker (for example soccer) ... umm maybe tennis // not many tennis trackers ..

To be honest there are none really well developed sport trackers other than Martial Arts (MMA etc).

Trackers that follow every leage, every event, have well-organized group of rippers/uploaders from all over the world. In other words, the scene for sport content berely exists and I think it is finally a time to build a website that will start one.

james223
05-18-2009, 06:00 AM
A Scene 0-day Music site. With huge achieves.

Stellar
05-18-2009, 06:16 AM
I was going to give you an idea for something, but then I remembered I'm probably going to start my own niche tracker in a few months. :lol:

Most of the bases have been covered in the bittorrent world to be quite honest. I highly doubt any more 0-day sites are needed.
How about you think about what interests you the most? No point in creating a tracker focusing on something that doesn't interest you.

mrunal
05-18-2009, 07:06 AM
I want tracker dedicated to music video.

Louie
05-18-2009, 07:11 AM
but then I remembered I'm probably going to start my own niche tracker in a few months

TPB Copper?

@OP Make a tracker with community only,no files to download only pictures with those torrents will be added.

VinX
05-18-2009, 11:44 AM
but then I remembered I'm probably going to start my own niche tracker in a few monthsTPB Copper?

@OP Make a tracker with community only,no files to download only pictures with those torrents will be added.

wtf ? u wanna make tracker with no content .. that wont be a tracker .. ;)

Louie
05-18-2009, 12:04 PM
wtf ? u wanna make tracker with no content .. that wont be a tracker ..

Well would be...pictures with releases.
Whats the difference betwen a tracker like this and a 1337 tracker with tons of content and pretime but empty and no snatch to most of torrents?

harshytkage
05-18-2009, 12:17 PM
wtf ? u wanna make tracker with no content .. that wont be a tracker ..

Well would be...pictures with releases.
Whats the difference betwen a tracker like this and a 1337 tracker with tons of content and pretime but empty and no snatch to most of torrents?

unfortunately he's dead on! but let's get back to the topic here, it gets kinda frustrating when every single question in this forum gets bashed on for no reason whatsoever(as usual :happy:)

Louie
05-18-2009, 12:27 PM
when every single question in this forum gets bashed

If you say about this OP question he should ask to cinephilia first,its no bash around.

Cabalo
05-18-2009, 02:39 PM
but then I remembered I'm probably going to start my own niche tracker in a few monthsTPB Copper?

@OP Make a tracker with community only,no files to download only pictures with those torrents will be added.
... and make it secret, remember to not tell anyone when you open it. NO ONE. if you tell anyone, it will no longer be a secret.
then, join a couple of sites and say you are a site representative, so you can make up all the bullshit you want and they will believe you. a good way to try to get those guys you don't like banned at other places. Pure genius.

sez
05-18-2009, 03:35 PM
I vote alongside those who say we need more m-vid trackers.
Its ridiculous that there is no other good enough option other than m-vids.

Yesterday some dude requested for a HD music video tracker and looking at my resources i only found a total of ~200 irrelevant HD vids in BT,yet on DDL sites i could literally find any video that i was looking for.Sometimes keri hilson is a better fantasy in HD and its high time trackers took this seriously.

I agree,we don't need another 0day tracker,there's already enough of those and you will be wasting your time trying to compete with the already established ones.no matter how hard you try to juice it up.perhaps this explains the disparity in snatch counts in places like TL,revTT and IPT compared to the other 0day sites.

Also i don't know if am the one who isn't searching well enough but the only places where i have been able to find cannes film festival movies have been public trackers,so it would be cool if these and other similar festival flicks were on a private tracker.
Those two would be my two main preferences.

Others would include a section in the forums dedicated to 'secret' tracker reviews only,with real screenshots,not photoshop creations of invite dreamers.some of these screens are floating around public trackers so it aint hard to find em.
It would also be cool to have a dedicated ebooks section,for those of us who are addicted to plagiarism.
You could also include RS and MU links on torrents,for those who are afraid to leech at times like say now with TL.
Lots of links to adultfriendfinder amateur videos would be awesome too.

Fake tracker lotteries are kinda popular atm too so you might wanna check into that also..

djerholler69
05-18-2009, 03:45 PM
heh, I think I'm that 'some dude'.

Like what sez said, there is great potential for a mvid tracker because I'm sure many people really love their music and m-v is really hard to get in :/

I'm also always thinking, bordering on the worrying side, if a tracker is too great (providing vast, special content), that there is gonna be a huge alert at those commercial corporations. Definitely would not want to have Operation Ark Royal Part Deux :S

cinephilia
05-18-2009, 05:10 PM
Also i don't know if am the one who isn't searching well enough but the only places where i have been able to find cannes film festival movies have been public trackers
if you were member of Karagarga (KG), you would have find them easily.

TheMegaKing
05-18-2009, 06:30 PM
Tracker that would be like SoftMp3 R.I.P.
Music scene releases that can be orderd by cat.

shipwreck
05-18-2009, 06:37 PM
Tracker that would be like SoftMp3 R.I.P.
Music scene releases that can be orderd by cat.

That already exists, but the without the retention of Softmp3. So I agree with you, as I wrote earlier in the thread, a proper, strictly scene mp3 tracker (not specialised, but general) in the mould of Softmp3 is really lacking these days.

But wanting to start a new tracker is one thing. It's all about content, so trackers rise (and fall) with their uploaders. If you don't have quality uploaders, even if you have the hard- and software sorted to get you started, don't bother.

Stellar
05-19-2009, 07:09 AM
I vote alongside those who say we need more m-vid trackers.
Yeah, there are really no other alternatives to MV. I love MV, but it needs some competition.

A music tracker for scene releases with a great archive would be excellent.


... and make it secret, remember to not tell anyone when you open it. NO ONE. if you tell anyone, it will no longer be a secret.
then, join a couple of sites and say you are a site representative, so you can make up all the bullshit you want and they will believe you. a good way to try to get those guys you don't like banned at other places. Pure genius.
Hey OP, there's an idea for you! :lol:
If I start a tracker I'd probably do either that or the complete opposite. The only reason I can see for keeping it secret is so prevent the owner from getting owned by the authorities.

OnEyM
05-19-2009, 09:32 AM
a (strictly) scene music tracker with a proper archive is currently lacking, as discussed in other threads already.

+1

RizKhan25000
05-19-2009, 09:43 PM
I think there is place for a good tv+movies tracker.
1. Start with regular scene stuff and you would be able to gradually build a torrent archive. Pretimes are not so important but they should not be very bad. Initially you would need a good speed seedbox to provide speed to your torrents.
2. Don't go for members from elite trackers as for them your tracker would always be a second choice. Look for new users (you would only get them through open signups) as here you would probably find loyal users.
3. Start with freeleech on each and every torrent.
4. Pay attention to request section as here you would be able to add valuable material and earn goodwill of your members.
5. Set a target for open signups. Once reach there stop, scrutinize the accounts, throw out the trouble makers and inactive members. Offer the available places through open signups again and again. After a time restrict your open signups to once in a month , two month or three month etc period. In the period between the two open signups occasions provide rare invites to only your most trusted members. The regular open signups would help to keep away the traders and the invites would enable good members to bring in their friends.
6. If everything go right we would have a very good tv+movie tracker.

Well I am just thinking Am I serious?

cstrik3
05-19-2009, 09:59 PM
I think we don't need more trackers really..

Villalltheway
05-19-2009, 11:07 PM
A (strictly) scene music tracker with a proper archive is currently lacking, as discussed in other threads already.

Why is this need when there is scc where u can also get a lot more other stuff. I honestly dont get why would anyone just want a scene mp3 tracker, when other music sites do a much better job.

brento
05-19-2009, 11:20 PM
I always dreamed of a tracker for high school/college students where they could upload their essays, reports, etc. that they did really well on. It could also include ebooks and other study materials. Link could be ipassed.it or iaced.it or something of that sort.

shipwreck
05-19-2009, 11:20 PM
As others have explained already, the mp3 packs on general 0day trackers like SCC (a site which I'm not on btw.) can't be searched / sorted by genres properly. Yes, they are a temporary workaround, but a strictly scene mp3 tracker with good retention is simply lacking. There are no two ways about that.

Of course the other general music trackers like What are excellent, but it still would be nice to have a scene mp3 tracker (with good retention) in addition to that. Not all scene groups are hopeless, there actually are quite a few good groups out there. And the scene tends to be faster with new releases also, often (considerably) earlier than retail.

lollerbaby
05-19-2009, 11:42 PM
I always dreamed of a tracker for high school/college students where they could upload their essays, reports, etc. that they did really well on. It could also include ebooks and other study materials. Link could be ipassed.it or iaced.it or something of that sort.

This made me giggle, but I would like to see a decent textbook tracker. That way, I'll have an excuse to buy me one of them kindle thingies for college. It would cover the cost and then some in later years.

Villalltheway
05-20-2009, 12:06 AM
As others have explained already, the mp3 packs on general 0day trackers like SCC (a site which I'm not on btw.) can't be searched / sorted by genres properly. Yes, they are a temporary workaround, but a strictly scene mp3 tracker with good retention is simply lacking. There are no two ways about that.

Of course the other general music trackers like What are excellent, but it still would be nice to have a scene mp3 tracker (with good retention) in addition to that. Not all scene groups are hopeless, there actually are quite a few good groups out there. And the scene tends to be faster with new releases also, often (considerably) earlier than retail.


But i still dont get why u need it, u can get a scene rip uploaded on to what anyway and wait till some proper rips come along. Whats the need for this additional site. pointless in my point of view. And who cares how quickly they can get the releases, why not wait a little longer and get a proper rip. Also getting stuff realeased considerably earlier then its retail date is totally hot its the thing the authorities amd record companies hate the most.

shipwreck
05-20-2009, 12:13 AM
And I don't get why you are so against this idea, when it's rather obvious that there is a lot of demand for it, especially ever since Softmp3 went down?

What seems pointless to you does not have to apply to others. In my humble view, TV show trackers are totally pointless, for example (I don't watch TV shows, and there is even less appeal for me to actually download and watch them again...), yet I would never question that others see it differently, and there obviously is demand for it.

As long as there is demand, it's not pointless to fill it.

cinephilia
05-20-2009, 12:59 AM
i do agree with Villalltheway and i also wonder what's the point in downloading exclusively scene mp3 releases.

shipwreck
05-20-2009, 01:08 AM
Who said 'exclusively'?

There is demand for scene mp3s, hence there is demand for a scene mp3 tracker with good retention. There really is nothing more to add to this.

cinephilia
05-20-2009, 01:24 AM
ok, let's put it another way: what makes you love scene releases enough to wish for a tracker entirely devoted to this category ?
i know there is demand for scene mp3's but i want to know your point of view about that.

xJohnxSmithx
05-20-2009, 01:26 AM
I've been hoping for a music tracker that uses no compression formats. Personally, I have many tb's of space and don't see the need to compress to flac. Mp3 is great but i can make my own if i need to. Thanks for listening and i hope to see this in the near future. Oh, please send me an invite if this becomes a reality.
Cheers

shipwreck
05-20-2009, 01:46 AM
ok, let's put it another way: what makes you love scene releases enough to wish for a tracker entirely devoted to this category ?
i know there is demand for scene mp3's but i want to know your point of view about that.

'Love'? Now, let's not go overboard. I love my girlfriend, or my football club, or a cold beer on a hot summer day, or fur underpants on a freezing cold night, but not compressed audio files.

I like scene mp3s in addition to the "home made" stuff for the reasons explained earlier, and because I have a relatively huge scene mp3 collection already, old habits you could say. Scene mp3s have the advantage of dupechecking, so even if a certain tracker does not have a release you are searching for, you know that it was released on a certain day by a certain group.

I, like many others, appreciate a clean, well structured, as complete as possible (ideally multilanguage) scene mp3 tracker with good retention , and since this doesn't exist, there obviously is demand for it *points at the title of the thread*.

sez
05-20-2009, 02:06 AM
Come to think of it,this dude is an FBI fucker.
One post then he disappears?
I think he is gathering info on what we would like to see in a tracker.then probably with his shitload of cash make everything happen.
Top uploaders get on board and before you know it an international sting operation is underway.
If you don't believe such a thing could happen,read what happened with these carders on that once upon a time dark market.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/14/darkmarket_sting/

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-10234872-83.html

and come to think of it even more(alot of imagination in play here),could it have happened already?could that tracker you are sitting on be potentially a timebomb waiting to explode?

BT is indeed a highly risky business and i think now more than ever i understand the security argument of trackers.This thing is for people who got tough stomachs for real.Anything could happen.

shipwreck
05-20-2009, 02:09 AM
The FBI actually ran a scene FTP topsite once even, release headquarter to many important scene groups. So of course it's rather easy for them to run a bittorrent tracker, if they really want to.

Don't think that the OP is a FBI agent though... :D

harshytkage
05-20-2009, 02:10 AM
a Music- videos tracker is in order...monopoly isn't cool(points at M-vids)

cinephilia
05-20-2009, 02:50 AM
'Love'? Now, let's not go overboard. I love my girlfriend, or my football club, or a cold beer on a hot summer day, or fur underpants on a freezing cold night, but not compressed audio files.
i don't speak english well enough to play on and with words :cry:


I like scene mp3s in addition to the "home made" stuff for the reasons explained earlier, and because I have a relatively huge scene mp3 collection already, old habits you could say. Scene mp3s have the advantage of dupechecking, so even if a certain tracker does not have a release you are searching for, you know that it was released on a certain day by a certain group.
personally, i tend to focus on music rather than scene groups that release it.
i have my own tastes, they have their own ones and even if some teams release stuff that may suit me, i can't reduce music to a couple of scene groups releasing a lot more crap than gems.
... but hey, that's just my opinion.

shipwreck
05-20-2009, 02:59 AM
Of course not, at the end of the day it's about the music and not the group that releases it. So even if there were no scene mp3s available on bittorrent trackers, it would not exactly be the end of the world. It just would be nice to have, that's all.

To be perfectly honest, some of the reasons for this "preference" of mine can't be discussed publically on a board like this. And I find it odd why I need to justify it to be even more honest.

cinephilia
05-20-2009, 03:08 AM
To be perfectly honest, some of the reasons for this "preference" of mine can't be discussed publically on a board like this. And I find it odd why I need to justify it to be even more honest.
ok, i respect your choice. i thought we were simply discussing though...

shipwreck
05-20-2009, 03:14 AM
No worries, just saying. Just had to add a bit of controversy to spice things up.

Discussions are fine. What would the world be without discussions? Discuss...

TP635
05-20-2009, 05:46 AM
Come to think of it,this dude is an FBI fucker.
One post then he disappears?
I think he is gathering info on what we would like to see in a tracker.then probably with his shitload of cash make everything happen.
Top uploaders get on board and before you know it an international sting operation is underway.
If you don't believe such a thing could happen,read what happened with these carders on that once upon a time dark market.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/14/darkmarket_sting/

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-10234872-83.html

and come to think of it even more(alot of imagination in play here),could it have happened already?could that tracker you are sitting on be potentially a timebomb waiting to explode?

BT is indeed a highly risky business and i think now more than ever i understand the security argument of trackers.This thing is for people who got tough stomachs for real.Anything could happen.

That dude is an fbi agent; try calling him at this number 202 234 3000, ask for Agent LRC

Swift
05-20-2009, 04:25 PM
wait untill at least half of them die and you can make one then seriouslly.