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Skiz
05-19-2009, 05:23 AM
I just read a bit of journalism though which stated:

In Scotland if an individual posts a picture displaying an edged tool/weapon the police will be paying a visit.

""We're looking for anyone who is brandishing offensive weapons or blades," Holly told Newsbeat."

So my question was, without being too technical, can you own a firearm in your country?

In the USA, you are allowed to own all sorts of guns, but not every type; there are certain weapons which are banned.

Barbarossa
05-19-2009, 08:32 AM
In the UK you can only own a firearm if you have a licence. Except for air rifles I think.

Handguns are banned altogether.

I don't know anyone who owns a gun.

Skweeky
05-19-2009, 08:34 AM
You've clearly never been to Scotland :ermm:

You can only own a gun if the licesing officer believes you have a good reason to do so. That means, you are either into shooting as a sport (and you can prove you are) or you need a gun for your work.

From wikipedia:

All firearms in the United Kingdom must be licensed on either a firearm certificate (FAC) or a shotgun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotgun) certificate.
Shotguns are defined in UK law as smoothbore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoothbore) firearms with barrels not shorter than 24" and a bore not larger than 2" in diameter, no revolving cylinder, and either no magazine or a non-detachable magazine that is not capable of holding more than two cartridges.[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_United_Kingdom#cite_note-3) This effectively gives a maximum three round overall capacity, while shotguns with a capacity exceeding 2+1 rounds are subject to a firearm certificate. Shotguns thus defined are subject to a slightly less rigorous certification process.
A firearm certificate differs from a shotgun certificate in that justification must be provided to the police for each firearm; these firearms are individually listed on the certificate by type, calibre, and serial number. A shotgun certificate similarly lists type, calibre and serial number, but permits ownership of as many shotguns as can be safely accommodated. To gain permission for a new firearm, a "variation" must be sought, for which a fee is payable, unless the variation is made at the time of renewal, or unless it constitutes a one-for-one replacement of an existing firearm which is to be disposed of. The certificate also sets out, by calibre, the maximum quantities of ammunition which may be bought/possessed at any one time, and is used to record the purchasing of ammunition (except, optionally, where ammunition is both bought, and used immediately, on a range).
To obtain a firearm certificate, the police must be convinced that a person has "good reason" to own each gun, and that they can be trusted with it "without danger to the public safety or to the peace". Under Home Office guidelines, gun licenses are only issued if a person has legitimate sporting or work-related reasons for owning a gun. Since 1946, self-defence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-defence) has not been considered a valid reason to own a gun. The current licensing procedure involves: positive verification of identity, two referees of verifiably good character who have known the applicant for at least two years (and who may themselves be interviewed and/or investigated as part of the certification), approval of the application by the applicant's own family doctor, an inspection of the premises and cabinet where guns will be kept and a face-to-face interview by a Firearms Enquiry Officer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_Enquiry_Officer) (FEO) also known as a Firearms Liaison Officer (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Firearms_Liaison_Officer&action=edit&redlink=1) (FLO). A thorough background check of the applicant is then made by Special Branch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Branch) on behalf of the firearms licensing department. Only when all these stages have been satisfactorily completed will a license be issued.
Any person who has spent more than three years in prison (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison) is automatically banned for life from obtaining a gun licence.[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_United_Kingdom#cite_note-4) Similarly, persons applying for licences with recent, serious mental health issues will also be refused a certificate.
Any person holding a gun licence must comply with strict conditions regarding such things as safe storage. These storage arrangements are checked by the police before a license is first granted, and on every renewal of the licence. A local police force may impose additional conditions on ownership, over and above those set out by law. Failure to comply with any of these conditions can mean forfeiture of the gun licence and surrender of any firearms to the police.
The penalty for possession of a prohibited firearm without a certificate is currently a mandatory minimum five year prison sentence and an uncapped fine.[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_United_Kingdom#cite_note-5)
In addition, the Violent Crime Reduction Act 2006 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violent_Crime_Reduction_Act_2006) increased restrictions on the use, ownership, sale and manufacture of both airguns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airgun) and imitation firearms (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Imitation_firearm&action=edit&redlink=1).[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_United_Kingdom#cite_note-6)

Alien5
05-19-2009, 08:46 AM
In the UK you can only own a firearm if you have a licence. Except for air rifles I think.

Handguns are banned altogether.

I don't know anyone who owns a gun.

The police and army are allowed to use handguns and automatic rifles, but you can't bring them home with you.

Barbarossa
05-19-2009, 08:51 AM
Good point, motherfucker :smilie4:

pentomato
05-19-2009, 09:43 AM
In Massachusetts you can own a gun, if the chief of police allows you, and you need three letters from three business people.
Every State in the US has different laws about guns, in the whole north east are extricter than the rest of the country.

Alien5
05-19-2009, 09:52 AM
mafia in that area.

Barbarossa
05-19-2009, 09:55 AM
Allen, can you seriously not make a post without having to edit it? :fist:

Can I draw your attention to the "Post Preview" feature of this board software :smilie4:

Alien5
05-19-2009, 09:59 AM
yes, please do.

lamuller
05-19-2009, 10:01 AM
mafia in that area.

Who needs a gun anyway?
Unless you want to kill someone you would need a gun.

Barbarossa
05-19-2009, 10:02 AM
mafia in that area.

Who needs a gun anyway?
Unless you want to kill someone you would need a gun.

You might want to shoot a can off a fence :unsure:

Or a clay pigeon.

Barbarossa
05-19-2009, 10:03 AM
yes, please do.

Knob :lol:

CrabGirl
05-19-2009, 01:39 PM
I know a few people who own air rifles with which they shoot squirrels, rabbits and birds for fun. I hate it but at least they eat most of what they kill, except the squirrels.

pentomato
05-19-2009, 01:53 PM
Who needs a gun anyway?
Unless you want to kill someone you would need a gun.

You might want to shoot a can off a fence :unsure:

Or a clay pigeon.

That's what slings or whatever they are call are for, guns are intended to kill something or someone.

callum
05-19-2009, 02:13 PM
You might want to shoot a can off a fence :unsure:

Or a clay pigeon.

That's what slings or whatever they are call are for, guns are intended to kill something or someone.

I'm not much of a historian, but I don't think there was much clay pigeon shooting going on thousands of years ago, when slings were invented. People were probably to busy using them to kill stuff.

Barbarossa
05-19-2009, 02:18 PM
Like David and Goliath :smilie4:

Slings went out of fashion when after a spate of fatal incidents the Crown made you get a sling licence in order to wield a sling. This led directly to the development of the bow and arrow, which was intended for shooting down apples.

C-mos
05-19-2009, 02:23 PM
no , not really.. :(
joking ..you can kill if you want :D

clocker
05-19-2009, 02:23 PM
I live in the US, so yes, any mouthbreathing psycho is allowed- nay, encouraged- to own a gun.

lamuller
05-19-2009, 04:18 PM
Like David and Goliath :smilie4:

Slings went out of fashion when after a spate of fatal incidents the Crown made you get a sling licence in order to wield a sling. This led directly to the development of the bow and arrow, which was intended for shooting down apples.

Well in those times, you didn't have anyone in the Bronx NY, Dorchester Boston or Columbine going in a killing spree with their slings, so it was never the same.
Guns were made to kill people and they should be illegal, no exceptions.
Sorry, this was intended for Callum.

lamuller
05-19-2009, 04:21 PM
I live in the US, so yes, any mouthbreathing psycho is allowed- nay, encouraged- to own a gun.

And Texas is leading the country on pychos having guns. No offense to anyone.

Cabalo
05-19-2009, 05:32 PM
here you can't own a gun unless you get a license, emitted by the police. and they get all your personal data connected to the exact weapon you buy.
and any blade longer than 7 cm also needs approval from the local authorities.

pentomato
05-19-2009, 08:12 PM
here you can't own a gun unless you get a license, emitted by the police. and they get all your personal data connected to the exact weapon you buy.
and any blade longer than 7 cm also needs approval from the local authorities.

And that's the way it should be everywhere, that's why you don't have as much crime as we have in the USA.

Villalltheway
05-20-2009, 12:22 AM
In the UK you can only own a firearm if you have a licence. Except for air rifles I think.

Handguns are banned altogether.

I don't know anyone who owns a gun.

Yea shot guns are allowed with a licence and they must be always stored away properly. They usualy give licences so people in the country side can hunt vermin shot some clay pigeons etc.

All automatic guns are banned aswell but that goes without saying.

The only people i know personally who have guns are like farmers and people who live in the country. Its not like the US here cant just go to Tesco and buy gun.

callum
05-20-2009, 11:56 PM
Well in those times, you didn't have anyone in the Bronx NY, Dorchester Boston or Columbine going in a killing spree with their slings, so it was never the same.

None of the nutters would have been in america at the time, they would have been elsewhere, causing havoc with their slings. Apart from the ones running about killing people with tomahawks of course.

TheFoX
05-21-2009, 12:59 AM
You can own a hand gun in the UK provided...

i) You have a license from the authorities.

ii) You are a member of a gun club.

iii) The gun must never leave the club. You cannot take the gun home with you.

My father used to have quite a collection of firearms, until they changed the law. Now his weapons are stored at the gun club, and that is the only place he can wield them.

Shotguns are a different matter, and many people have licenses to use them.

enoughfakefiles
05-21-2009, 09:29 PM
You can own a hand gun in the UK provided...

i) You have a license from the authorities.

ii) You are a member of a gun club.

iii) The gun must never leave the club. You cannot take the gun home with you.

My father used to have quite a collection of firearms, until they changed the law. Now his weapons are stored at the gun club, and that is the only place he can wield them.

Shotguns are a different matter, and many people have licenses to use them.

What happens if the gun club sets you some homework :unsure:

brotherdoobie
05-23-2009, 02:03 AM
I haven't used a gun since my army days. Dangerous tool in the wrong hands. That's all.


Peace, doobs

Proper Bo
05-23-2009, 02:11 AM
Shirley they're dangerous in anyone's hands considering they're designed to kill stuff/people.

The_Martinator
05-23-2009, 06:18 AM
You need a license here also. I never bothered to check how to get one, but I hear the rules are pretty strict (you have to be a hunter,...)

brotherdoobie
05-23-2009, 07:09 AM
You would think so; however, my battalion's supply sergeant never qualified with his weapon at the range - the whole time he was in the military (22 years, like).


I used to buy the biggest, fattest, and juiciest joints off his brain damaged wife. She was fecking weird to the max. She would sit on top of their fridge all day long with a glass of iced tea and a bag of doobies.

She was all right, and Sgt was all right too. He let me stay at his house and get away from the barracks on the weekends. He taught me how to be a man. He made me laugh. Sgt was a double hard bastard with a soul.


Sgt was killed in Panama. I watched him die. His eyes were open. He had a fly on his face on the ride back. I hated that fly. I still hate that fly. I hate all flies. They're the first vultures of death.


Peace, Sgt Brother Doobie http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/brotherdoobie/080508-203448-530007.jpg

Skweeky
05-23-2009, 04:16 PM
:unsure:

Fuck sake doobs.

On a happier note; I know someone who once smoked so much ganja when she was in South Africa that she couldn't string a full sentence together for months afterwards.

IdolEyes787
05-23-2009, 05:17 PM
You would think so; however, my battalion's supply sergeant never qualified with his weapon at the range - the whole time he was in the military (22 years, like).


I used to buy the biggest, fattest, and juiciest joints off his brain damaged wife. She was fecking weird to the max. She would sit on top of their fridge all day long with a glass of iced tea and a bag of doobies.

She was all right, and Sgt was all right too. He let me stay at his house and get away from the barracks on the weekends. He taught me how to be a man. He made me laugh. Sgt was a double hard bastard with a soul.


Sgt was killed in Panama. I watched him die. His eyes were open. He had a fly on his face on the ride back. I hated that fly. I still hate that fly. I hate all flies. They're the first vultures of death.


Peace, Sgt Brother Doobie http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/brotherdoobie/080508-203448-530007.jpg


Were you Airbourne BD ?

TheFoX
05-23-2009, 07:20 PM
What happens if the gun club sets you some homework :unsure:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungerford_Massacre

I know this is not on the same scale as what happens in the States, but considering that the UK is not a pro gun culture, this was something that took the nation by surprise.

brotherdoobie
05-24-2009, 04:58 AM
:unsure:

Fuck sake doobs.

On a happier note; I know someone who once smoked so much ganja when she was in South Africa that she couldn't string a full sentence together for months afterwards.

You're a fine translator. Did you paraphrase for her?


-bd :mellow:

brotherdoobie
05-24-2009, 06:19 AM
You would think so; however, my battalion's supply sergeant never qualified with his weapon at the range - the whole time he was in the military (22 years, like).


I used to buy the biggest, fattest, and juiciest joints off his brain damaged wife. She was fecking weird to the max. She would sit on top of their fridge all day long with a glass of iced tea and a bag of doobies.

She was all right, and Sgt was all right too. He let me stay at his house and get away from the barracks on the weekends. He taught me how to be a man. He made me laugh. Sgt was a double hard bastard with a soul.


Sgt was killed in Panama. I watched him die. His eyes were open. He had a fly on his face on the ride back. I hated that fly. I still hate that fly. I hate all flies. They're the first vultures of death.


Peace, Sgt Brother Doobie http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/brotherdoobie/080508-203448-530007.jpg


Were you Airbourne BD ?

10th Mountain, Sir.


-bd

VinX
05-24-2009, 10:40 AM
only if u have licence u can get a gun .. i think no one allows rocket launchers and bazookas .. rofl

IdolEyes787
05-24-2009, 01:36 PM
Were you Airbourne BD ?

10th Mountain, Sir.


-bd

The interweb is a funny place because I never would have figured man.
Much respect .

pentomato
05-24-2009, 02:10 PM
only if u have licence u can get a gun .. i think no one allows rocket launchers and bazookas .. rofl

Only in Texas and around there you can have rocket launchers, they use them to stop illegal immigration.

pentomato
05-24-2009, 02:12 PM
You would think so; however, my battalion's supply sergeant never qualified with his weapon at the range - the whole time he was in the military (22 years, like).


I used to buy the biggest, fattest, and juiciest joints off his brain damaged wife. She was fecking weird to the max. She would sit on top of their fridge all day long with a glass of iced tea and a bag of doobies.

She was all right, and Sgt was all right too. He let me stay at his house and get away from the barracks on the weekends. He taught me how to be a man. He made me laugh. Sgt was a double hard bastard with a soul.


Sgt was killed in Panama. I watched him die. His eyes were open. He had a fly on his face on the ride back. I hated that fly. I still hate that fly. I hate all flies. They're the first vultures of death.


Peace, Sgt Brother Doobie http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/brotherdoobie/080508-203448-530007.jpg


Gee thanks, it is good to know that we are so well protected in the USA, it must be all about the weed.

Crowley
05-25-2009, 12:16 AM
You can't own a gun from where I'm from and this makes me darn happy.

Rat Faced
05-26-2009, 02:48 PM
Yes you can.

Just can't pick one up at Walmart (Asda)