Cult Classics

[CONFLICT]

Sorry if this has already has been posted, but i'm new to the board...

I just wanted to list 5 of my favorite cult classics.

1. Repo Man
2. EraserHead
3. Natural Born Killers
4. A Clockwork Orange
5. Begotten (the wierdest movie of all time, gaurenteed)

[[B][O][T]]

Natural Born Killers and A Clockwork Orange is real good!

BOT

[CONFLICT]

Agreed :)

[soopaman]

Good choices!!

A few of my fave Cult films:

1 Performance

2 The Killer

3 Shogun Assassin

4 The Firm (Not the John Grisham movie!!)

5 Chopper

What do you think??

[olibomb]

The Warriors is a great cult classic

[MediaSlayer]

i tried a "cult classics" thread right after i joined this board and no one seemed to be interested or willing to reply. Perhaps the musicworld gang and many others skew more towards mainstream. At any rate, here is mine.

1. welcome to the dollhouse
2. canadian bacon
3. blue velvet
4. lock,stock,and two smoking barrels
5. go
6. strictly ballroom
7. once were warriors
8. the great rock and roll swindle(well, i used to like it:)
9. jawbreaker(only cuz i love cali)
10. three seasons(you won't find this film its out of production)

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Spaceballs...

[zinc1]

There was one ovieby cronenburge or lynch with Peter Weller (Robocop)where he was a writer who kept seeing a giant cockroach and spoke to it.I can't remember the name of it?Any help.
Also

Videodrome
Logans Run
Scanners

[3rd gen noob]

bad taste

[3RA1N1AC]

Originally posted by zinc1@28 September 2003 - 03:05
There was one ovieby cronenburge or lynch with Peter Weller (Robocop)where he was a writer who kept seeing a giant cockroach and spoke to it.I can't remember the name of it?
naked lunch.

[zinc1]

Originally posted by 3RA1N1AC+28 September 2003 - 12:36--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3RA1N1AC @ 28 September 2003 - 12:36)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-zinc1@28 September 2003 - 03:05
There was one ovieby cronenburge or lynch with Peter Weller (Robocop)where he was a writer who kept seeing a giant cockroach and spoke to it.I can&#39;t remember the name of it?
naked lunch. [/b][/quote]
Yeh thats the one thanks.
It acctually was a good movie.

[Grimlock]

Lol naked lunch is extremely homo-erotic. I like vanishing point(the original or even the remake i suppose) myself if you aren&#39;t sure what that is please referrence the audioslave musicvideo "show me how to live"

[Celerystalksme]

Chopper was definately a great movie... :)

[uNz[i]]

The Toxic Avenger

(I can&#39;t believe this hasn&#39;t already been mentioned)

[Mr. Mulder]

Leon B)

[Hyperspam]

The Money Tree
Love and a 45
Edward Scissorhands

[Meehowski]

Pink Flamingos...............directed by John Waters.....

Plan Nine from Outer Space&#33;

[ck-uk]

The breakfast club

Scum.

[Snee]

Joe&#39;s Apartment

Mad Max (the first one, just saw it, I think it&#39;s been censored since the eighties in my country, had to download it)

[Twigboy]

Night of the living dead

[zinc1]

Phantasm :o

[uNz[i]]

Sgt Kabukiman NYPD... and just about anything else from the Troma studio ;)
The Evil Dead series (another one I cant believe hasnt been mentioned) :blink:
Wizard of Oz
Delicatessen
City of Lost Children
This is Spinal Tapp
Little Shop of Horrors

[MetroStars]

here r sum of my cult classics u may agree u may not


ALIENS

James Cameron




DEAD RINGERS

David Cronenberg




THE EXORCIST

William Friedkin




THE FLY

David Cronenberg




THE HITCHER

Robert Harmon




THE LOST HIGHWAY

David Lynch




THE OMEN

Richard Donner




PSYCHO

Alfred Hitchcock




ROSEMARY&#39;S BABY

Roman Polanski




THE SHINING

Stanley Kubrick




THE THING

John Carpenter

[kiwiman]

one of the greatest films by THE WHO:


QUADROPHENIA

[CONFLICT]

Pink Floyds "The Wall" was pretty good, and quite the wierd one, that one by Dee Snider was wierd.... hmm Oh yeah, about Begotten, anyone seen it? Its about God (played by some B class actor) killing himself with a razor blade and Mother Earth comes to earth, and finds God dead, and the earth quickly turns into a barrin wasteland, its &#39;93 I think, but in B&W... the wierdest movie I HAVE EVER SEEN&#33;

[zinc1]

Originally posted by Justsomeguy@28 September 2003 - 22:23
Sgt Kabukiman NYPD... and just about anything else from the Troma studio ;)
The Evil Dead series (another one I cant believe hasnt been mentioned) :blink:
Wizard of Oz
Delicatessen
City of Lost Children
This is Spinal Tapp
Little Shop of Horrors
You&#39;re right about the Troma Studios.
Class of Nukem High is deffinitely a cult classic.

[thacowboy3]

:angry: UN-frigging-BELIEVABLE

how can a cult classics thread be complete w/o QT&#39;s movies :o

] pulp fiction
] reservoir dogs
] jackie brown

now those are some kick-ass movies. agreed, pulp would have don without the whole butch-fabien interaction, but still, that&#39;s some movie

and robert rodriguez&#39;s

] Desperado

agreed, some movies here like lock, stock, go, mad max, and many more are cult classics, but without QT [god among directors] no cult classic is complete

[ezyryder]

Originally posted by thacowboy3@29 September 2003 - 01:51
:angry: UN-frigging-BELIEVABLE

how can a cult classics thread be complete w/o QT&#39;s movies :o

] pulp fiction
] reservoir dogs
] jackie brown

now those are some kick-ass movies. agreed, pulp would have don without the whole butch-fabien interaction, but still, that&#39;s some movie

and robert rodriguez&#39;s

] Desperado

agreed, some movies here like lock, stock, go, mad max, and many more are cult classics, but without QT [god among directors] no cult classic is complete
I agree, Of tarantino movies aren&#39;t there something must be wrong&#33;

ps: Can&#39;t wait for Kill Bill&#33;

[thacowboy3]

ps: Can&#39;t wait for Kill Bill&#33;

i am gonna be one of those who live outside the movie theater as soon as the movie is accounced, get the first ticket and frame the stub...that kind of insanity i can only indulge in for a QT movie

[MediaSlayer]

Originally posted by Justsomeguy@28 September 2003 - 22:23
City of Lost Children
This is Spinal Tapp
spinal tap is the most legitamate cult classic mentioned so far, and city of the lost children was good too........here&#39;s a few more

1. donnie darko(a trusted friend highly recommended this movie)
2. rumblefish
3. waiting for guffman

[The Horror fanatic]

my cult classics are

a nightmare on elm street-just got to love the bed spaltter scene
war of the worlds- an absolute sci fi classic. Total annhillation and to be beaten by bacteria. that was the only bad thing about it.
the wraith- starring charlie sheen and has arguably the best car in the world in it.
star wars trilogy- total classics always will be
airplane 1 and 2. i have never laughed so much with these two
top secret: this film is just so hilarious
halloween 3:the season of the witch- just got to love that really annoying music in it
3 more days to halloween, na na na, three more days to halloween, silver shamrock. if you are a fan of it you will hum it, i know i have.
But i will disagree on the exorcist. 1 it aint scary. 2. it was a waste of my time watching it. 3 take out that crucifix scene and there was absolutely no reason to ban it. That the problem with most banned films of around that time, some were banned for nothing, and overhyped as the best horror and so on. Even the original friday the 13th pissed on the exorcist and that a classic too, but my favourite part is the 4th one, the final chapter. Judie Aronson in it, what a babe. Pity she was killed in the dinghy. booooo

[puk:))]

NBK all the way.

(Natrual born killers for the masses).

[Grimlock]

I can not believe no one has mentioned Rocky Horror yet. I personally couldn&#39;t sit through it but it is like the ultimate cult classic(most well known) isn&#39;t it?

[MediaSlayer]

no

[Grimlock]

ok then

[uNz[i]]

D"OH&#33;&#33;

*slaps forehead*


Bladerunner&#33;

bah.. how could I forget that??? :angry:

[thacowboy3]

Bladerunner&#33;

what&#39;s next, the sound of music&#33;?

BTW, has anyone mentioned Fight Club yet? i personally think the book is better than the movie, but as far as movies go, its worthy of a cult classic hands down.

[uNz[i]]

Sure, why not? :P

The Sound of Music






J/K :lol:

Seriously though, I&#39;m sure there&#39;s folks out there that consider it a cult classic..
Theres no accounting for taste... and just because you dont get into a certain film, doesn&#39;t mean it&#39;s any less valid than a film you do like.

[thacowboy3]

lol...touche

[MediaSlayer]

BTW, has anyone mentioned Fight Club yet?
fight club is good

[3RA1N1AC]

i just don&#39;t like the term "cult classic." it&#39;s too vague and people who don&#39;t normally watch any challenging/unusual movies just throw everything into the "cult" category because they think it&#39;s weird. Plan 9 From Outer Space, A Clockwork Orange, Attack Of The Killer Tomatoes, and Rocky Horror are all completely different things-- they don&#39;t deserve to get lumped together. Stanley Kubrick must be rolling in his grave, at the thought that his film is considered to be on the same level as the Toxic Avenger.

[Guillaume]

Most of my favorites have already been named (so I won&#39;t bother typing their names again, lazy me&#33;) but no-one mentionned Paul Verhoeven&#39;s "Flesh and blood" (http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0089153/)

[MediaSlayer]

Originally posted by 3RA1N1AC@29 September 2003 - 16:41
i just don&#39;t like the term "cult classic." it&#39;s too vague and people who don&#39;t normally watch any challenging/unusual movies just throw everything into the "cult" category because they think it&#39;s weird. Plan 9 From Outer Space, A Clockwork Orange, Attack Of The Killer Tomatoes, and Rocky Horror are all completely different things-- they don&#39;t deserve to get lumped together. Stanley Kubrick must be rolling in his grave, at the thought that his film is considered to be on the same level as the Toxic Avenger.
here (http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node=cult%20classic) is someone trying to explain it, and mostly failing. Just as there was a need to recognize and isolate a different style of music within the category of "rock" and call it "alternative" or "punk" or whatever, there is an equal need to do the same with movies. Cult classics are movies that do not cater to the needs of the masses, but instead place more emphasis on artistic expression with the young generation in mind.

[Grimlock]

Originally posted by MediaSlayer+29 September 2003 - 16:59--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MediaSlayer @ 29 September 2003 - 16:59)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-3RA1N1AC@29 September 2003 - 16:41
i just don&#39;t like the term "cult classic."&nbsp; it&#39;s too vague and people who don&#39;t normally watch any challenging/unusual movies just throw everything into the "cult" category because they think it&#39;s weird.&nbsp; Plan 9 From Outer Space, A Clockwork Orange, Attack Of The Killer Tomatoes, and Rocky Horror are all completely different things-- they don&#39;t deserve to get lumped together.&nbsp; Stanley Kubrick must be rolling in his grave, at the thought that his film is considered to be on the same level as the Toxic Avenger.
here (http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node=cult%20classic) is someone trying to explain it, and mostly failing. Just as there was a need to recognize and isolate a different style of music within the category of "rock" and call it "alternative" or "punk" or whatever, there is an equal need to do the same with movies. Cult classics are movies that do not cater to the needs of the masses, but instead place more emphasis on artistic expression with the young generation in mind. [/b][/quote]
I couldn&#39;t help but notice...

[3RA1N1AC]

Originally posted by MediaSlayer@29 September 2003 - 08:59
here (http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node=cult%20classic) is someone trying to explain it, and mostly failing. Just as there was a need to recognize and isolate a different style of music within the category of "rock" and call it "alternative" or "punk" or whatever, there is an equal need to do the same with movies. Cult classics are movies that do not cater to the needs of the masses, but instead place more emphasis on artistic expression with the young generation in mind.
i know what cult classic means, but i don&#39;t buy it. basically anything that joe sixpack doesn&#39;t understand is lumped together as "cult." it&#39;s a mish-mash of art and schlock that i don&#39;t think stands up as a true category.

i&#39;ve got probs with the idea of "alternative" music, too, though... which lumped together a bunch of different styles that didn&#39;t have anything to do with each other. ;)

[MediaSlayer]

that&#39;s exactly why alternative split into the sub-generas you see on soulseek

[zinc1]

I haven&#39;t seen it Mentioned yet so I&#39;ll mention it now.

2001 A Space Odessey

[Grimlock]

If you don&#39;t do it people won&#39;t know what you are talking about it is a necessary evil. you can&#39;t label everything that is not mainstream with it&#39;s own title it would never work. people recognize the terms cult classic and alternative so it works. If you don&#39;t believe me that it takes people too long to grasp the concepts of smaller new catergories ask a forty year old what Emo is, and even though I personally can&#39;t stand emo I would hardly call it a brand new or even small catergory type.



*edit* sorry this was in reply to brainiac but I got beat to it.

[uNz[i]]

Why split hairs?

Cult cinema is like everything else on this planet; it has varying levels of quality and substance.... a spectrum, if you will.

Sure, Troma cant compare in quality to Kubrik... but they&#39;re both film makers.

Cult spans the entire spectrum, like it or not.

[thacowboy3]

i was once told that cult classics were mostly experimental movies that made it. made a little sense. one can be experimental with everything - a concept, a script, its implementation, camera works, etc. something like jason or texas chainsaw massacre could have become cult classic cause no one had seen so much blood o killing during that time. fight club can become cult cause of the script and central permise of the story, and QT&#39;s movies..well, i wouldn&#39;t know where to begin ;)

just my two cents B) / :ph34r:

[Busyman]

This whole thread has been bastardized. Now everyone&#39;s naming any joe blow movie a cult classic. Take a look at this (http://www.klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=55789&hl=the+weird+the+shocking) thread it is much better and you might get some good movies out of it.

[TheRunningMan]

id say for me
1. Weird Science - anthony micheal hall , kelly lebrock , robert downy jr
2. The Lost Boys - kiefer suthurland , cory haim , corey feldmen
3. Licence to drive - corey haim, corey feldmen

[thacowboy3]

how about the wonder boys - toby magguire, micheal duglas, robert downey jr

i think it was cool movie, maybe even clever. it may come nowhere near a cult movie, but oh well, since this thread has been bastardized anyway :rolleyes:

[MediaSlayer]

drugstore cowboy

[uNz[i]]

Originally posted by Busyman@30 September 2003 - 09:26
This whole thread has been bastardized. Now everyone&#39;s naming any joe blow movie a cult classic. Take a look at this (http://www.klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=55789&hl=the+weird+the+shocking) thread it is much better and you might get some good movies out of it.
:rolleyes:

Here we go again

Who are you to say what does and what doesn&#39;t define a genre?

Personally, I just dont care whether some of the films listed in this topic fit the genre or not... It&#39;s an inexact genre... thats the beauty of it... and this is just a p2p community forum, not a national film archive.

Try to get a bit of perspective. Lives will not be lost because of inconsistent information here.

By the way, I found the sweeping accusation that "everyone&#39;s naming any joe blow movie a cult classic." not only arrogant, but patently wrong.

Sure, some folks&#39; opinions may differ from yours.. but if you have a problem with that, try to remember that it takes all kinds to make a world.


Keep &#39;em coming folks.. and to hell with the nit-pickers :P

[thacowboy3]

justsomeguy, my sarcasm was much better ;) :lol:

just kidding dude...i agree with you.

while i don&#39;t agree with the nitpicker, i must say that movies like reservoir dogs and pulp fiction don&#39;t get mentioned for 2 pages, there gotta be some problem with this thread.

to all who raise controversy about cult genre, go to imdb and find out ONE movie that comes under only one genre.

[uNz[i]]

@ thacowboy3: Well said :beerchug:

You&#39;re spot on with the reservoir dogs and pulp fiction comment... a lot of Terry Gilliam&#39;s work has been a bit of a glaring omission too..

[puk:))]

Originally posted by MediaSlayer@30 September 2003 - 08:19
drugstore cowboy
now theres a real cult classic :) :)

[Turd Ferguson]

I thought a cult movie was one which was not aimed at the masses, yet has gained a strong following. :huh:

Maybe I&#39;m wrong, but one which comes to mind is The Boondock Saints.

[Grimlock]

Terry Gilliam rocks. 12 monkeys was awe inspiring not to mention Brasil and no child should go without seeing The Baron Munchausen (sp?). Also wouldn&#39;t the Monty Python movies find a good home in this thread?

[Busyman]

Originally posted by Justsomeguy+30 September 2003 - 11:41--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Justsomeguy @ 30 September 2003 - 11:41)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Busyman@30 September 2003 - 09:26
This whole thread has been bastardized. Now everyone&#39;s naming any joe blow movie a cult classic. Take a look at this (http://www.klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=55789&hl=the+weird+the+shocking) thread it is much better and you might get some good movies out of it.
:rolleyes:

Here we go again

Who are you to say what does and what doesn&#39;t define a genre?

Personally, I just dont care whether some of the films listed in this topic fit the genre or not... It&#39;s an inexact genre... thats the beauty of it... and this is just a p2p community forum, not a national film archive.

Try to get a bit of perspective. Lives will not be lost because of inconsistent information here.

By the way, I found the sweeping accusation that "everyone&#39;s naming any joe blow movie a cult classic." not only arrogant, but patently wrong.

Sure, some folks&#39; opinions may differ from yours.. but if you have a problem with that, try to remember that it takes all kinds to make a world.


Keep &#39;em coming folks.. and to hell with the nit-pickers :P [/b][/quote]
And yea The Sound Of Music is a "cult classic"

Sorry for saying this thread has been bastardized but this thread is more like:

"Name Films You Liked"

Folks ARE naming any joe blow movie and calling it a cult classic.
It is like naming Terms Of Endearment and then someone says that not a cult classic and then I say well..... it&#39;s a cult classic to ME. Bullshit

And yes certain things DO define a genre.

[3RA1N1AC]

Originally posted by Justsomeguy@30 September 2003 - 03:41
Here we go again

Who are you to say what does and what doesn&#39;t define a genre?

Personally, I just dont care whether some of the films listed in this topic fit the genre or not... It&#39;s an inexact genre... thats the beauty of it... and this is just a p2p community forum, not a national film archive.

...

Keep &#39;em coming folks.. and to hell with the nit-pickers :P
just to distinguish my point from busyman&#39;s, he&#39;s saying this movie & that movie aren&#39;t "cult," and i don&#39;t care which particular ones people call cult classics because i think the category is just an orphanage for anything & everything that regular noobs don&#39;t understand. just about everything listed as cult can easily be described by older, clearer categories like sci-fi, horror, comedy, "art," musical, etc etc etc.

maybe i just hate the idea of a "cult" category because it&#39;s so closely tied to "camp" and "kitsch," and to robot puppets making snickering remarks about anything that looks old and cheap. further reading on what "camp" is-- http://www.jahsonic.com/Camp.html

technically, though, i have to agree that cult by definition means it has a small following. if it&#39;s popular, it isn&#39;t "cult." i don&#39;t consider that nitpicking-- when was the last time you&#39;ve heard of a cult comprising the majority? if a cult is not a small minority, it ceases to be a cult. for example, "Pulp Fiction" is automatically excluded because of the high level awards it won and the truckloads of money it raked in.

the idea of cult just confuses people because it fails to define itself clearly, aside from the single criterion of being unpopular.

[ck-uk]

technically, though, i have to agree that cult by definition means it has a small following. if it&#39;s popular, it isn&#39;t "cult." i don&#39;t consider that nitpicking-- when was the last time you&#39;ve heard of a cult comprising the majority? if a cult is not a small minority, it ceases to be a cult. for example, "Pulp Fiction" is automatically excluded because of the high level awards it won and the truckloads of money it raked in.

Umm..i dont know about that mate.Myself,i would class pulp ficion as a "cult classic".Maybe we could redefine "cult classic" to "a small devoted following".

[Busyman]

Originally posted by ck-uk@30 September 2003 - 21:04

technically, though, i have to agree that cult by definition means it has a small following. if it&#39;s popular, it isn&#39;t "cult." i don&#39;t consider that nitpicking-- when was the last time you&#39;ve heard of a cult comprising the majority? if a cult is not a small minority, it ceases to be a cult. for example, "Pulp Fiction" is automatically excluded because of the high level awards it won and the truckloads of money it raked in.

Umm..i dont know about that mate.Myself,i would class pulp ficion as a "cult classic".Maybe we could redefine "cult classic" to "a small devoted following".
Ahhh but as he 3RA1N1AC said, there is nothing small about Pulp Fiction.
People call something cult classic sometimes just because it&#39;s highly original or weird (Pulp Fiction was highly original).
They also call it cult when it starts a new genre.

And no 3RA1N1AC what I mean is just what I said.
Cult classic on this thread is Name A Movie You Liked.

[thacowboy3]

pulp fiction is definitely a cult classic. its not fair to say that a cult by default has a small audience. its much better to define cult as a genre of movies that isn&#39;t mainsteam, the kind of movies that were not made with demographic data and graphs in mind [eg; italian job...can&#39;t get more mainstream than that], the kind of movies that were not designed to be block-busters.

successful that pulp fiction was, i don&#39;t think QT was writing it in consultation with experts on fan data or whatever you call it.

in my opinion, cult are those movies that weren&#39;t aimed at mainstream masses, but made it to them on account of their originality and innovation, or probably plain shock-value, none of it deliberately inserted into the movie.

edit - Terry Gilliam&#39;s works are better than most others i have seen.

And busyman, stop trying to define for us what cult is. the reason cult is vague is cause not even the flim-makers know what they are making when they are making it, in terms of genre. that&#39;s the best part about it.

[Grimlock]

Obsessive, especially faddish, devotion to or veneration for a person, principle, or thing.
The object of such devotion.
An exclusive group of persons sharing an esoteric, usually artistic or intellectual interest.


It just means movies with a cult like following let it go already everyone has their own opinions.

[Busyman]

Originally posted by thacowboy3@30 September 2003 - 23:53

And busyman, stop trying to define for us what cult is. the reason cult is vague is cause not even the flim-makers know what they are making when they are making it, in terms of genre. that&#39;s the best part about it.
Okay then my bad really
Let&#39;s continue

Air Force One and Clear and Present Danger those are a good cult classics starring Harrison Ford. I loved those movies.

[The Horror fanatic]

in my view cult classics can be of any genre and we all have our tastes. There is so many genres and some are actually 2 genres in one, like sci fi horror, and action comedy to name 2. Take the cult classic airplane, some say it plain comedy(pardon the pun), but some say it an action comedy. Another is jaws, horror, or action horror, i go for the latter, but my friend say it almost an horror. we all make up our own minds what some films genre&#39;s are, and some can actually be in more than 1. Take independence day, that is sci fi action , not just plain sci fi. Hence why we have now, action comedy, action thriller, sci fi action, and action horror. There is really no such thing as 1 genre now for a film, because most are a mix of 2.

[thacowboy3]

Air Force One and Clear and Present Danger those are a good cult classics starring Harrison Ford. I loved those movies.

now that&#39;s an actor..he hasn&#39;t looked back since star wars and indiana jones, has he??

[The Horror fanatic]

i prefer harrison ford in the star wars and the indiana jones films, but he has been in some other good movies. some of my favourite actors are from the past. but some of my favourites are basil rathbone(the only real sherlock holmes ever), james cagney, and clint eastwood.
Clint i like best though in the old spaghetti westerns like the good the bad and the ugly, or as dirty harry. Dirty harry and the good the bad and the ugly are in my cult classics.

[AngryChick]

I agree that Terry Gilliam rocks&#33;

[thacowboy3]

dirty harry and good, bad and ugly is in my list too. clint eastwood is a very good actor, retirement-phobic too i might add :lol:

some of his new stuff like spacecowboys, etc. don&#39;t do justice to him at all.

[ck-uk]

Originally posted by Busyman+30 September 2003 - 22:55--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Busyman @ 30 September 2003 - 22:55)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-ck&#045;uk@30 September 2003 - 21:04

technically, though, i have to agree that cult by definition means it has a small following. if it&#39;s popular, it isn&#39;t "cult." i don&#39;t consider that nitpicking-- when was the last time you&#39;ve heard of a cult comprising the majority? if a cult is not a small minority, it ceases to be a cult. for example, "Pulp Fiction" is automatically excluded because of the high level awards it won and the truckloads of money it raked in.

Umm..i dont know about that mate.Myself,i would class pulp ficion as a "cult classic".Maybe we could redefine "cult classic" to "a small devoted following".
Ahhh but as he 3RA1N1AC said, there is nothing small about Pulp Fiction.
People call something cult classic sometimes just because it&#39;s highly original or weird (Pulp Fiction was highly original).
They also call it cult when it starts a new genre.

And no 3RA1N1AC what I mean is just what I said.
Cult classic on this thread is Name A Movie You Liked. [/b][/quote]
ARR..i know pulp fiction was a bit of a hit.But i dont think a movie would be categorized as a cult classic on its release.Imo a movie&#39;moves in to that genre after the hypes died down and just has a small devoted audiuece,enought to keep the movie rember&#39;ed.

[rf9rider]

Easy Rider.

What about all the "Carry On" films?

[MediaSlayer]

pulp fiction,pulp fiction,pulp fiction,pulp fiction,pulp fiction
fyi-pulp fiction is in a grey area
On the one hand, its hip for the soundtrack, the director, and the general message the movie sends. On the other hand, its not because:
A:regarless of whether it was intended for the masses or not, it is now widely cherished by the jackass generation
B:watching it over and over just isn&#39;t pleasant i.e.-it didn&#39;t stand up to the test of time like other cult classics did-i.e."this is spinal tap"
C:it wasn&#39;t all that good to begin with compared to other cult classics

Oh and if someone defines cult classic differently than what I&#39;ve proposed, that&#39;s ok I respect your opinion as long as you respect mine. But if you ask if a movie is a cult classic I&#39;m gonna say yes or no based on my definition, not yours. No harm in that.

[thacowboy3]

B:watching it over and over just isn&#39;t pleasant i.e.-it didn&#39;t stand up to the test of time like other cult classics did-i.e."this is spinal tap"
C:it wasn&#39;t all that good to begin with compared to other cult classics

B - wrong. i know a whole lot of people, including myself, who never get tired of the movie...there are even many teenagers in my area that have borrowed my dvd over and over again [eventually they stop cause they rip it].

C - err, i beg to differ. pulp was one of the first movies in american cinema to cross the 100 million dollar mark. QT is considered a cult director only on the basis of three movies, and mostly for pulp and dogs. its a little long, yes, but the only part i feel could have been omitted was the fabian-butch interaction. imho, pot-belly conversation and then good morning, where&#39;s my frigging watch? the jules-vincent chemistry is among the best i have seen between characters in any movie.

all in all, there&#39;s absolutely no doubt in my mind that pulp will be talked about in the same vein as the good, the bad and the ugly when its as old as the good, the bad and the ugly.

[MediaSlayer]

re-read the last paragraph of my post

[thacowboy3]

well, that applies to me too ;)

[Grimlock]

Originally posted by MediaSlayer@1 October 2003 - 09:26
pulp fiction,pulp fiction,pulp fiction,pulp fiction,pulp fiction
fyi-pulp fiction is in a grey area
On the one hand, its hip for the soundtrack, the director, and the general message the movie sends. On the other hand, its not because:
A:regarless of whether it was intended for the masses or not, it is now widely cherished by the jackass generation
B:watching it over and over just isn&#39;t pleasant i.e.-it didn&#39;t stand up to the test of time like other cult classics did-i.e."this is spinal tap"
C:it wasn&#39;t all that good to begin with compared to other cult classics

Oh and if someone defines cult classic differently than what I&#39;ve proposed, that&#39;s ok I respect your opinion as long as you respect mine. But if you ask if a movie is a cult classic I&#39;m gonna say yes or no based on my definition, not yours. No harm in that.
I don&#39;t recall the thread being called "we give a rat&#39;s ass wether you say it is a cult classic or not".

[MediaSlayer]

@grimlock-ok then ;)

but wait, has anyone seen donnie darko? i tried to rent it but the movie rental place by my house doesn&#39;t have it :blink:

[uNz[i]]

Well.. what a can of worms we opened with this topic&#33; :lol:

Theres nothing like several shades of grey to make for a good healthy discussion, huh? ;)

So now, as we&#39;ve (hopefully) reached a (sort of) consensus, here is my somewhat lengthy definition of the word "cult"

For this, I am going to tell the stories of 2 girls I used to know.

The first girl was a massive fan of The Rocky Horror Picture Show.

It used to screen every tuesday at a local art house cinema, and she, with a group of like minded companions would go and see it every chance she got.

By the time they finally stopped showing the film, she had seen it 450+ times over a 5 year period.
The group she went with (usually 15-20 people) used to go all out and get dressed up in Rocky Horror type drag.. fishnets, suspenders, over the top make-up...the whole deal.
They sang and danced along with every song... and pissed off a lot of people by squirting them with perfume filled water pistols and chucking popcorn everywhere


Okay. So what?

Well, thats obviously a cult movie, agreed?
It screened for a incredible length of time due to the overwhelming demand from it&#39;s fans - in an art house cinema.
It was offbeat.
It was not mainstream.

So lets see what other films this applies to - with the singing and dancing, at least.

The second girl lived in a whistle stop town...population: 30 people.
There wasn&#39;t much to do in this town, so she used to watch videos like Footloose, Dirty Dancing and Grease.
She would watch the films over and over, and then she would get all the local girls and mums together in the little town hall, show the films and teach them all the dances afterwards

It got to the point where, if a song from Grease came on the radio, all the girls would get up and sing and dance along at the drop of a hat.
Pretty scary stuff to watch, to be honest :blink:

Farmers daughter doing a duet with the old barmaid from the pub to the song Your the one that I want or dirty dancing together to I had the time of my life Yikes&#33; :o

Now whats my point here?

Well, would you say that Footloose or Dirty Dancing are cult movies?

No? Well, what about Grease?

Now don&#39;t get me wrong here.. maybe they are, maybe they aren&#39;t.
I&#39;m not going to say, but by the definitions put forth on this topic, no, they are not.

They are mainstream.
Neither ran for an over extended period in an art house cinema.
They couldn&#39;t really be called offbeat.

But in that small town with it&#39;s tiny populace, they did achieve cult status.
The similarities in the behaviour of the people in these 2 stories demonstrate that.

This is why I&#39;ve taken the position I have in this topic, and why I have no problem with some of the slightly dodgy (at times) suggested films.

Thats it, I&#39;m done.
Hope I didn&#39;t bore you too much with my ramblings.

[thacowboy3]

lol...that made nice reading, dude :lol:

well, you inspired me. next time i watch pulp fiction, i m gonna be dressed in a dorky t-shirt and shorts, like jules and vincent are in the diner ;)

http://www.gorenight.com/movies/pulpf/data/pf10.jpg

[MediaSlayer]

@justsomeguy-i see you spent alot of time on this, so i&#39;ll be respectful as possible so the thread can get back on track and start naming movies again(still no peep about donnie darko from a single person) ok here goes:do you agree that a movie can change status over time? I&#39;ve already stated my position about rocky horror so you know it. Just some input, if it&#39;s not too much trouble. As for me, I think a movie *can* lose status over time, after all lord of the rings is cool now, but will it be cool 80 years from now?

[puk:))]

I think a movie *can* lose status over time, after all lord of the rings is cool now, but will it be cool 80 years from now?

the answer to that one is no it wont.

i personally think any film based on visual effects can not stand up to the test of time... but i dont think that means it would lose cult status.. (not that i think lotr has cult anything)

[MediaSlayer]

@puk:))-Just for the record,I said cool, not cult. But maybe it was ambigieoueuoeuus hehe anyway good input so when people gonna name some more movies??

[uNz[i]]

Originally posted by MediaSlayer@2 October 2003 - 00:43
do you agree that a movie can change status over time?&nbsp; ... I think a movie *can* lose status over time, after all lord of the rings is cool now, but will it be cool 80 years from now?
In most cases, yes, I suppose that it&#39;s most likely an at first "great" film will lose it&#39;s lustre after repeat viewings... I guess it depends on how much of a fan you were of a film in the first place, and how strong the film&#39;s elements are.

Let&#39;s see... I enjoy watching The Wizard of Oz now as much as I did when I was a kid... It certainly hasn&#39;t "faded" for me.

On the flip-side, I really got into Gilliam&#39;s Brazil for quite a few years, but if I try watching it now... well, it&#39;s just gotten old.
Too much of a good thing, perhaps?

Doesn&#39;t mean that the film is lacking in any way though. People change, but a film doesn&#39;t once it&#39;s in the can.. with the exception of add-ons like DVD editions and Director&#39;s cuts...

As for Lord of the Rings, I have no idea. Who can say how any film will perform over several generations of viewing?
So all I can say to that question is ask me again 80 years from now. ;)

[3RA1N1AC]

Originally posted by MediaSlayer@1 October 2003 - 07:13
ok here goes:do you agree that a movie can change status over time?
absolutely. "Citizen Kane" was a cult movie at one time. it was a financial & critical failure upon release, and essentially forgotten until a small following of fans & critics rediscovered it and started singing its praises. at that point, it would&#39;ve fit the description of cult.

now Citizen Kane is generally considered to be one of the greatest films ever, by critics, fans, and the industry. it&#39;s no longer cult.

i don&#39;t imagine that any filmmaker makes a movie while thinking "gee, i hope this gets ignored by the mainstream and it&#39;s only praised by a rabid, cult following. i hope it doesn&#39;t make any money, so the studios will lock me out & never give me a chance to do something with a large budget." nobody sets out to make a cult movie.

[3RA1N1AC]

Originally posted by Busyman@30 September 2003 - 18:12
Air Force One and Clear and Present Danger those are a good cult classics
lol.

[Busyman]

Some other good cult classics
Fried Green Tomatoes
Steel Magnolias
The Evening Star ;)

[3RA1N1AC]

The Matrix.

[Hyperspam]

There is a few movies that I can&#39;t believe other people haven&#39;t mentioned like...
Clerks
this was a very big movie among my crowd when I was in high school and I kid you not we used to watch it every weekend. Also this was the starting point for Jay and Silent Bob.
SLC Punk
good movie about punk rockers.
Heathers
creepy movie about suicide becoming the in thing at a high school staring Wynona Ryder and Christian Slater

I guess maybe I&#39;m getting a little old or something. :)

[WolverineDK]

two "cult" classics for me is Bloodsport and Kickboxer with Van Damme (or is it Van Dumb ?)
but i can remember and likes to say the lines from the two movies when i see them.
:) :) :)

[Wolfmight]

Terminator movies
Matrix movies
LoTr movies are long, but yet still end to soon :(