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bondgannu
06-25-2009, 11:43 PM
This question has alway been a matter for concern.....Starting from the begining of my torrenting on Private trackers....:(

This is primarily bcoz I dont have a seedbox...:frusty:

I was also told to ask it here on FSF...by a mod on Pirate Society while giving interview for invitation and membership there...:shifty:

So, Please people will you be knd enough to share your idea and knowledge you have gained over time....... That will help me deal with this matter ..;)

Reagrds...

mrnobody
06-26-2009, 12:58 AM
Seed. Be connectable. Seed. Keep seeding. Make sure you are connectable. Seed. Again Seed. Seed again and again.

you don't need box to maintain good ratio btw



I was also told to ask it here on FSF...by a mod on Pirate Society while giving interview for invitation and membership there...:shifty:

:pinch:

kooftspc11
06-26-2009, 01:16 AM
you have to take into consideration what sort of tracker you are on. alot of specialty (niche) trackers are no fun for people which dont really have any use for the content

bitmetv is a perfect example. if you dont have that much use for a tv-only tracker then you will find it's very hard to keep a decent ratio there.

if you having a hard time keeping a good ratio at a 0-day tracker.....you should probably find one with a larger (or simply more active) userbase. a site with only 3,000 members is never going to be as easy to seed on as one with 20,000 members.

given that you hardware is setup properly....

the only other factor in seeding/ratio is how long you keep the shit seeding for. anybody who uses torrents for an extneded period of time can tell you that not all sites are the same. you need to accept the following reality...seeding a torrent for a week on one site may be equivalent to seeding it for 6 months on another site. but i can assure you that most anything can be seeded back in 6 months time.

yes, even all those hannah montana episodes you've downloaded

TP635
06-26-2009, 01:20 AM
My best upload speed is only 30kbs and I have no seed box. I have account in one private tracker that have no freeleech (you can buy upload gb but I don't have the money) and no seeding bonus system. But I am a PU there.

Squirr3l is right; seed, get connected and seed until you bleed. But one more thing; GET IT RIGHT FROM THE START. If you download the WRONG torrent at the start you will be shown the exit door by the system in no time.

Be prepared to seed 24/7 and have a LARGE HD.

7th
06-26-2009, 01:30 AM
Be prepared to seed 24/7 and have a LARGE HD.

Yes! Having a large HD is a good idea. With that you can keep your files even after using them (like burning dvds, watching movies, etc).

Like TP635, even with a slow connection you can survive even in those most difficult trackers (depending on your usage of the tracker).

Even inside trackers like BitmeTV (already mentioned) you can survive with an upload speed of about 30kB/s (or even less) without big problems using, for example, partial seeding (if the tracker permits that). And please people, I don't want to start any discussion here. :dry:

and that's my humble opinion...:)

SkitZoo
06-26-2009, 01:48 AM
Jump on the new and popular torrents immediately, using RSS or IRC announce if RSS not provided. So you'll be a seeder soon and the others will download the file from you. Then keep seeding for a while.

sez
06-26-2009, 01:54 AM
a site with only 3,000 members is never going to be as easy to seed on as one with 20,000 members.

and thats why it will most likely be ratioless.

You should also look at cross seeding.Works great with large HD files,i've heard good things about pretome, and the fact that its ratioless makes it a great candidate to leech from so as to cross seed on other harder to maintain trackers.
Its all about patience and hardwork.

colbert
06-26-2009, 02:44 AM
You can survive on any internet connection granted you are patient enough and reasonable with what you download.

kooftspc11
06-26-2009, 02:48 AM
You can survive on any internet connection granted you are patient enough and reasonable with with you download.


you may think that but i've seen a few people die from it

DonkeyPacker
06-26-2009, 02:50 AM
If the tracker permits regular users to upload then upload and get a ratio boost, if not be sure to jump on new and popular torrents (for example Sims 3). Also be sure to look out for freeleech torrents (the download on these torrents is not counted towards your ratio but the upload is). Frequently trackers make large torrents or packs freeleech. If this is still difficult for you then you can cross seed by downloading a torrent from one site and seeding that same torrent at another site.

colbert
06-26-2009, 03:03 AM
You can survive on any internet connection granted you are patient enough and reasonable with with you download.


you may think that but i've seen a few people die from it

Excellent point! Remember to download your vegetables!

bondgannu
06-26-2009, 10:06 PM
a site with only 3,000 members is never going to be as easy to seed on as one with 20,000 members.


and thats why it will most likely be ratioless.

You should also look at cross seeding.Works great with large HD files,i've heard good things about pretome, and the fact that its ratioless makes it a great candidate to leech from so as to cross seed on other harder to maintain trackers.
Its all about patience and hardwork.

K menas download content from one tacker and then seed it on another by making changes in its name....Provided the contents and size is same...Right...


You can survive on any internet connection granted you are patient enough and reasonable with with you download.


If the tracker permits regular users to upload then upload and get a ratio boost, if not be sure to jump on new and popular torrents (for example Sims 3). Also be sure to look out for freeleech torrents (the download on these torrents is not counted towards your ratio but the upload is). Frequently trackers make large torrents or packs freeleech. If this is still difficult for you then you can cross seed by downloading a torrent from one site and seeding that same torrent at another site.

DEfinetly that seems to be a great idea...

Thanks so much people I assume that will help me out a lot....

Regards.......

realityhd
06-26-2009, 10:51 PM
I got invited to a hard to seed at tracker just recently so decided to upgrade my internet, now on 35/20...I will still have trouble keeping up with the seedboxers though.

Roooney
06-26-2009, 11:45 PM
As long as you seed as long as possible you should be fine, no matter what tracker you have. I've seeded torrents for over 10 weeks, it will deffo improve your ratio.

Having a seedbox is not necessary, I managed to upload about 100GB by seeding from a 50kbs line a few years ago.

If you need some help or advice on how to build a good ratio feel free to PM me.

bondgannu
06-27-2009, 12:47 AM
^^
BUT YOU UPLOAD SPEED is awesome.......And its equivalent to the upload speed of a Kimsufi seedbox

Mine is much lower than you....But its the best plan taken up by the home users here in India, I can also seed from 2 to 8 AM iNDIAN Standard time (IST):- i.e. 8:30 PM to 2:30 AM GMT (British Time)

http://www.speedtest.net/result/475184967.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

jars
06-27-2009, 04:30 AM
The hardest trackers I've found to seed on are 'what', 'waffles', 'KG' and 'bitmetv'. I have huge buffers on all of them that allow me to download anything I would ever want forever. In order to get the buffer, I've seeded a lot of my more popular downloads or unique ones pretty much forever or certainly on and off for a number of years. I'm not talking about 100s of torrents either; more like 8 from KG, 5 from bitmetv and 50 from 'what'. If sites allow partial seeding (bitmetv and the music sites do), then that also another option. My speed isn't great either (seed at around 200kbs if I have a lot of leechers but usually travels at 100kbs daily).

Neimar
06-27-2009, 05:59 AM
I'll tell you all what I've noticed personally, regarding seeding. I used to utilize the Internet connection at a place where I used to work, getting some rather large files to download overnight. I was usually surprised to see that these files would not only fully download, but were also uploaded back at a ratio value of 1.5 to 2 by the time I got back in the morning. I had tested the connection speed, and I remember seeing that the numbers were equal for up and down, around 3.5 Mbps.
Now, my connection at home is also 3.5M down, but only about 800K up; however, I've never been able to get anywhere near the similar kind of performance, relatively speaking. In other words, if my old work connection allowed for a file to be uploaded in 6 hours, I would expect my home connection, which is four times slower, to take four times as long - therefore 24 hours. But this is not the case, as it usually takes me a week or two to upload the file back!
I guess the BT clients naturally seek out and give preference to seeders with more bandwidth, before falling back on "common folk" - that's why the superseeders with proper infrastructure never have any problems getting their upload ratios to be several times that of download. It's like economics: the rich keep getting richer, and the poor only get crumbs...

8675309
06-27-2009, 10:49 AM
when i was first starting i found a place very easy to seed on like TL and built a good buffer from partial seeding, then i could download stuff at TL without fear of getting in ratio trouble and seed it at any other site i use since most 0days have 90% same content. for smaller niche sites or music sites i would make sure to let everything seed for at least a month or 2 and i would always be looking for freeleech torrents. so basically use partial seeding, seed the same thing at as many different places as you can, keep stuff seeding for a long time, and look for freeleech torrents. before i ever used a seedbox i was a PU on all the sites i used with ~40 kb/s upload max. the much easier solution is to get a seedbox for a month and never worry about ratio again but i realize not everyone can afford it.

bondgannu
06-27-2009, 11:41 AM
I guess the BT clients naturally seek out and give preference to seeders with more bandwidth, before falling back on "common folk" - that's why the superseeders with proper infrastructure never have any problems getting their upload ratios to be several times that of download. It's like economics: the rich keep getting richer, and the poor only get crumbs...


Yes, I think that reall true indeed,,,,,

They definetly chose peers with higher speed hence providing them even better uploads..

Seriously I should go for some good seedbox, if I want to be a god surviving member...
Lets see...