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Secret Squirrel
09-29-2003, 05:38 AM
I want a laptop comp or a desktop dun need printer cuz if uguys rememger my last topic i juss got a cannon i860.

Secret Squirrel
09-29-2003, 05:39 AM
O yah im not that tech savy so plz dun make me like order separate parts and put together and stuff

toddiscool
09-29-2003, 05:50 AM
Originally posted by Secret Squirrel@29 September 2003 - 00:39
O yah im not that tech savy so plz dun make me like order separate parts and put together and stuff
So you want a pre-built? like a dell or something? Well inorder to fit you price you are gonna need to tell us what currency, I assume since you did not say that you are an American.

Somebody1234
09-29-2003, 06:08 AM
Well if your not sure if you want a laptop vs. a desktop then I think that needs to be decided first.

My thinking is that if either one is ok with you then get a desktop. You can get a lot more power for your money with a desktop.

adamp2p
09-29-2003, 06:39 AM
Somebody is right (as usual, eh?), you could get a much more powerful desktop for 1000 bucks. However, the most important limiting factor is the amount of computer knowhow you have.

If you have reasonable computer knowhow, the best price/performance is available in the mid "2000+" AMD sector. I think you can get a Barton 2500+ for like $89 US.

If you know nothing about computers, then your best bet is a Dell. Take a look at their refurbished site first, then search the internet for coupon codes.

Good luck.

Jay
09-29-2003, 07:03 AM
fuck dell, if u wanna get a prebuild computer get an HP

sparsely
09-29-2003, 08:26 AM
lol
I tell everyone I know to stay AWAY from HP's, unless they're buying a laser printer.
Compaqs too, now. :(

Rappy
09-29-2003, 08:30 AM
i would say get a DELL i donno if u can get an AMD processer in a dell

clocker
09-29-2003, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by Secret Squirrel@28 September 2003 - 22:39
O yah im not that tech savy so plz dun make me like order separate parts and put together and stuff
SS,

As I don't know where you live, I'll just have to make a few assumptions.

Most larger cities have small, independent computer shops who will be glad to custom build a computer for you. My local shop charges $60 to assemble a PC and install the OS. They were upfront about what components they were price competitive on and directed me to other sources for cheaper deals on certain parts. Even though I assembled my machine myself they were quite free with their time and advice.
As evidenced by every topic in the forum, people will have different opinions about every aspect of the machine.
AMD or Intel?
ATI or nVidia?
Seagate or Maxtor?
etc.,etc.
If you do a bit of research and talk to some people you can get quite a nice machine for your $1000.
Nearly everyone I spoke to mentioned the "sweet spot", the point where performance and price converged. Buying the absolute top-of-the-line is just not price smart...you pay a lot more for only a bit better performance, specifically when you're talking CPUs. Get a good motherboard which will support future upgrades and maybe the second or third from the top chip. As progress marches on, todays best chip becomes tomorrows price leader.
Look for sales on components. It's a cutthroat retail world out there and the consumer can really benefit. My WD 160GB HDDs were on sale for $99 each.

Decide what you want the comp to do and you'll be fine.

jetje
09-29-2003, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by Jay@29 September 2003 - 09:03
fuck dell, if u wanna get a prebuild computer get an HP
Don't know where your opinion is based on? So guess it's taste... well those are different.
Don't go using HP/compaq unless you use your pc just for office automation (Word/excell i.e.)
Dell is a decent buy imo have had a few big orders with them (between 50-200 machines at the time) hardly any problems. Btw same goes for the HP/Compaq stuff. But....

What i should do if i was you, reading you have hardly any PC knowledge (hardware..!) I think you should go to a local shop. Just check if you think the people there are reliable. Buy there and make sure you get good warranty.
Most of the times you'll be able to configure a machine by components and if the shop is any good they will help you buy/build one that fit your needs and your budget! B) Big advantage is that if there is something wrong with it those people are able to help you out..!

Secret Squirrel
09-29-2003, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by toddiscool+29 September 2003 - 05:50--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (toddiscool @ 29 September 2003 - 05:50)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Secret Squirrel@29 September 2003 - 00:39
O yah im not that tech savy so plz dun make me like order separate parts and put together and stuff
So you want a pre-built? like a dell or something? Well inorder to fit you price you are gonna need to tell us what currency, I assume since you did not say that you are an American. [/b][/quote]
Definetly Pre-Built

wormless
09-29-2003, 04:28 PM
lol@yr sig it dazzled me

netweiser
09-29-2003, 04:43 PM
i have a compaq. done me fine. ;)

Secret Squirrel
09-29-2003, 11:29 PM
Well actually now im bumping to 1500 and plus if i COULD help it and the PRICE wuz rite i would rather get a laptop. I wuz wondering if you can get around a 512-1 gig ram "DECENT" harddrive space, "DECENT" graphics card (for games) :D i forgot the wireless card but i think it wuz something like 801.g or soemthing. Also an ehternet port just incase i dun get wireless at home for around 1500 LOL

ilw
09-29-2003, 11:49 PM
Originally posted by Secret Squirrel@30 September 2003 - 00:29
Well actually now im bumping to 1500
you went scrounging down the back of the sofa?

Secret Squirrel
09-29-2003, 11:58 PM
Originally posted by ilw+29 September 2003 - 23:49--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ilw @ 29 September 2003 - 23:49)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Secret Squirrel@30 September 2003 - 00:29
Well actually now im bumping to 1500
you went scrounging down the back of the sofa? [/b][/quote]
No my parents said theyd add 500 bucks lol

adamp2p
09-30-2003, 02:05 AM
I don&#39;t what you are talking about; Dell has the highest customer satisfaction even apple users know (http://www.macobserver.com/article/2003/08/20.9.shtml)

If you don&#39;t know how to assemble a cpmputer and have &#036;1500, you could get a very powerful Dell with that amount of dough; just make sure to buy most your ram aftermarket. Make sure to get the Radeon 9800 pro so you get a more powerful PSU otherwise you will need to upgrade that and it gets pricey.

Secret Squirrel
10-01-2003, 03:16 AM
But dun dell only have those machines that u can only change a few specs as far as i know they dun sell UR ONLY specification comps they sell like 4200&#39;s and stuff not sure though........

zapjb
10-01-2003, 03:30 AM
www.dell & look under small business. You&#39;ll get better deals.

adamp2p
10-01-2003, 04:12 AM
Originally posted by zapjb@1 October 2003 - 04:30
www.dell & look under small business. You&#39;ll get better deals.
Unfortunatlely you will have to pay tax that way.

In a minute I will post you a like to something nice for under &#036;1500.

adamp2p
10-01-2003, 04:28 AM
SYSTEM SPECIFICATION
Dimension 8300 (System Identifier 0GV12DEF)
Dell Dimension 8300 Mini-Tower: Pentium® 4 Processor at 2.6GHz with 800MHz front side bus
System Price &#036;1,204.00
Promotion Discount (&#036;275.00)
Discounted Price &#036;929.00
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows XP Home
Memory: 512MB DDR 400MHz NON-ECC SDRAM (2 DIMMs)
Floppy Drive: 1.44 MB Floppy Disk Drive
Hard Disk Drive: 40 GB EIDE Hard Drive (7200 RPM)
Video: 128MB DDR ATI Radeon 9800 with TV-Out Video Card
Modem: 56Kbps Data/Fax Modem
Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live&#33; Digital Sound Card
CD Read-Write Drive: 48X CD-RW Drive
DVD Drive: 16X DVD-ROM
Logitech PS2 Mouse
QuietKey Keyboard

to find this one as well as other refurbished systems (I highly recommend this option, you get a great deal and if you don&#39;t likee Dell is good with returns)

See here (http://www.dell.com/us/en/dfh/products/series_dimen_desktops.htm)


With this one you have a decent processor with an 800 MHz front side bus and the Intel 875 chipset. That price comes with 1 year of support. At least you have a decent sound card. You wont have a monitor, but enough ram, and an excellent video card. Spend the rest of your money (what, &#036;500?) on a good 21 inch sony FD trinitron monitor you can get for less than 500 bucks. (it&#39;s funny though, I think Mr Dell got smart and took off all of those super cheap systems).

Secret Squirrel
10-01-2003, 06:18 AM
Originally posted by adamp2p@1 October 2003 - 04:28
SYSTEM SPECIFICATION
Dimension 8300 (System Identifier 0GV12DEF)
Dell Dimension 8300 Mini-Tower: Pentium® 4 Processor at 2.6GHz with 800MHz front side bus
System Price &#036;1,204.00
Promotion Discount (&#036;275.00)
Discounted Price &#036;929.00
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows XP Home
Memory: 512MB DDR 400MHz NON-ECC SDRAM (2 DIMMs)
Floppy Drive: 1.44 MB Floppy Disk Drive
Hard Disk Drive: 40 GB EIDE Hard Drive (7200 RPM)
Video: 128MB DDR ATI Radeon 9800 with TV-Out Video Card
Modem: 56Kbps Data/Fax Modem
Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live&#33; Digital Sound Card
CD Read-Write Drive: 48X CD-RW Drive
DVD Drive: 16X DVD-ROM
Logitech PS2 Mouse
QuietKey Keyboard

to find this one as well as other refurbished systems (I highly recommend this option, you get a great deal and if you don&#39;t likee Dell is good with returns)

See here (http://www.dell.com/us/en/dfh/products/series_dimen_desktops.htm)


With this one you have a decent processor with an 800 MHz front side bus and the Intel 875 chipset. That price comes with 1 year of support. At least you have a decent sound card. You wont have a monitor, but enough ram, and an excellent video card. Spend the rest of your money (what, &#036;500?) on a good 21 inch sony FD trinitron monitor you can get for less than 500 bucks. (it&#39;s funny though, I think Mr Dell got smart and took off all of those super cheap systems).
O FUCK NICE wait will all that promotional stuff stay up there? AND DAMN I WANT 1 GIG i have 256 rite now and its hell for me and they say 512 is "good enough" i dun want "good enough" i want "more than enough" how much for 1 gig o ram? Everything else iz like PERFECT THANKS MAN&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

Secret Squirrel
10-01-2003, 06:22 AM
Originally posted by adamp2p@1 October 2003 - 04:28
SYSTEM SPECIFICATION
Dimension 8300 (System Identifier 0GV12DEF)
Dell Dimension 8300 Mini-Tower: Pentium® 4 Processor at 2.6GHz with 800MHz front side bus
System Price &#036;1,204.00
Promotion Discount (&#036;275.00)
Discounted Price &#036;929.00
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows XP Home
Memory: 512MB DDR 400MHz NON-ECC SDRAM (2 DIMMs)
Floppy Drive: 1.44 MB Floppy Disk Drive
Hard Disk Drive: 40 GB EIDE Hard Drive (7200 RPM)
Video: 128MB DDR ATI Radeon 9800 with TV-Out Video Card
Modem: 56Kbps Data/Fax Modem
Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live&#33; Digital Sound Card
CD Read-Write Drive: 48X CD-RW Drive
DVD Drive: 16X DVD-ROM
Logitech PS2 Mouse
QuietKey Keyboard

to find this one as well as other refurbished systems (I highly recommend this option, you get a great deal and if you don&#39;t likee Dell is good with returns)

See here (http://www.dell.com/us/en/dfh/products/series_dimen_desktops.htm)


With this one you have a decent processor with an 800 MHz front side bus and the Intel 875 chipset. That price comes with 1 year of support. At least you have a decent sound card. You wont have a monitor, but enough ram, and an excellent video card. Spend the rest of your money (what, &#036;500?) on a good 21 inch sony FD trinitron monitor you can get for less than 500 bucks. (it&#39;s funny though, I think Mr Dell got smart and took off all of those super cheap systems).
Wait a second when i go there : (System Identifier 0GV12DEF) its not there any more i dun see the system u mentioned help ?

Secret Squirrel
10-01-2003, 06:24 AM
Originally posted by adamp2p@1 October 2003 - 04:28
SYSTEM SPECIFICATION
Dimension 8300 (System Identifier 0GV12DEF)
Dell Dimension 8300 Mini-Tower: Pentium® 4 Processor at 2.6GHz with 800MHz front side bus
System Price &#036;1,204.00
Promotion Discount (&#036;275.00)
Discounted Price &#036;929.00
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows XP Home
Memory: 512MB DDR 400MHz NON-ECC SDRAM (2 DIMMs)
Floppy Drive: 1.44 MB Floppy Disk Drive
Hard Disk Drive: 40 GB EIDE Hard Drive (7200 RPM)
Video: 128MB DDR ATI Radeon 9800 with TV-Out Video Card
Modem: 56Kbps Data/Fax Modem
Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live&#33; Digital Sound Card
CD Read-Write Drive: 48X CD-RW Drive
DVD Drive: 16X DVD-ROM
Logitech PS2 Mouse
QuietKey Keyboard

to find this one as well as other refurbished systems (I highly recommend this option, you get a great deal and if you don&#39;t likee Dell is good with returns)

See here (http://www.dell.com/us/en/dfh/products/series_dimen_desktops.htm)


With this one you have a decent processor with an 800 MHz front side bus and the Intel 875 chipset. That price comes with 1 year of support. At least you have a decent sound card. You wont have a monitor, but enough ram, and an excellent video card. Spend the rest of your money (what, &#036;500?) on a good 21 inch sony FD trinitron monitor you can get for less than 500 bucks. (it&#39;s funny though, I think Mr Dell got smart and took off all of those super cheap systems).
SYSTEM SPECIFICATION
Dimension 8300 (System Identifier 0GV12DEF)
Dell Dimension 8300 Mini-Tower: Pentium® 4 Processor at 2.6GHz with 800MHz front side bus
System Price &#036;1,204.00
Promotion Discount (&#036;275.00)
Discounted Price &#036;929.00
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows XP Home
Memory: 512MB DDR 400MHz NON-ECC SDRAM (2 DIMMs)
Floppy Drive: 1.44 MB Floppy Disk Drive
Hard Disk Drive: 40 GB EIDE Hard Drive (7200 RPM)
Video: 128MB DDR ATI Radeon 9800 with TV-Out Video Card
Modem: 56Kbps Data/Fax Modem
Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live&#33; Digital Sound Card
CD Read-Write Drive: 48X CD-RW Drive
DVD Drive: 16X DVD-ROM
Logitech PS2 Mouse
QuietKey Keyboard


Wait a second now i can&#39;t find ANYthing that u posted now help ?

huuramis
10-01-2003, 11:47 AM
all of that for &#036;1500.. omg

over here a system like that would cost like &#036;3,000+

no fair =(

adamp2p
10-01-2003, 01:49 PM
click this link,even better (http://outlet.us.dell.com/Dispatcher?target=SpecPage&serviceTag=E6VWJR0B&sessionID=16ME2YHp&#33;405761631&#33;243069876&#33;1065012292259&tgtSeg=I)

this one has a Radeon 9800 PRO&#33; The best one so far (http://outlet.us.dell.com/Dispatcher?target=SpecPage&serviceTag=F5BGL7AL&sessionID=16ME2YHp&#33;405761631&#33;243069876&#33;1065012292259&tgtSeg=I)

If any of these links are down somebody bought it. Just use the link that I gave you above, but select Dimension 8300, the lower models dont feature the same excellent specs (http://www.dell.com/us/en/dhs/products/model_dimen_3_dimen_8300.htm#tabtop).

Secret Squirrel
10-02-2003, 05:09 AM
U know all these systems that ur giving me they like disappear i can&#39;t find them after like an hour or so wut happens? do they sell out or something?

adamp2p
10-02-2003, 05:31 AM
Originally posted by Secret Squirrel@2 October 2003 - 06:09
U know all these systems that ur giving me they like disappear i can&#39;t find them after like an hour or so wut happens? do they sell out or something?
Just go here (http://www.dell.com/us/en/dfh/products/series_dimen_desktops.htm) and once your there choose dimension 8300. Then select the toggle bars for video card and use the 128mb option. Also make sure that you choose the toggle bar for the systems that are priced under &#036;1000. If you cant find it I am sorry but you must be mentally challenged. :rolleyes: