Leech Vs. Share [Archive] - FileSharing Talk

GMC0529

09-30-2003, 10:58 PM

Comment....
for those who prefer not to share....at least move files from your shared folders so those of us who DO follow the principle of file sharing. Nothing is more irritating than doing a file search, trying to start a download and finding that the file is unavailable.
This doesn't mean I agree with leeching, just getting tired of trying to find a needle in a haystack sometimes.
Still new to Kazaa....this may have been suggested before.

Something to think about.....

3rd gen noob

09-30-2003, 10:59 PM

this doesn't make sense

asmithz

09-30-2003, 11:01 PM

Originally posted by 3rd gen noob@30 September 2003 - 14:59
this doesn't make sense
He saying if your not going to share atleast move it out of your shared folder so that it dosent show up in a search, and you get you hopes up.

3rd gen noob

09-30-2003, 11:02 PM

Originally posted by Shad0w Hacker+30 September 2003 - 23:01--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Shad0w Hacker @ 30 September 2003 - 23:01)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-3rd gen noob@30 September 2003 - 14:59
this doesn't make sense
He saying if your not going to share atleast move it out of your shared folder so that it dosent show up in a search, and you get you hopes up. [/b][/quote]
yeah, i got the message, but do non-shared files actually show up in search?

:blink:

asmithz

09-30-2003, 11:03 PM

Originally posted by 3rd gen noob+30 September 2003 - 15:02--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3rd gen noob @ 30 September 2003 - 15:02)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Shad0w Hacker@30 September 2003 - 23:01
<!--QuoteBegin-3rd gen noob@30 September 2003 - 14:59
this doesn't make sense
He saying if your not going to share atleast move it out of your shared folder so that it dosent show up in a search, and you get you hopes up.
yeah, i got the message, but do non-shared files actually show up in search?

:blink: [/b][/quote]
Yeah they show up, thats what sucks.

3rd gen noob

09-30-2003, 11:06 PM

Originally posted by Shad0w Hacker@30 September 2003 - 23:03
Yeah they show up, thats what sucks.
well, you learn something new every day then...

asmithz

09-30-2003, 11:09 PM

Originally posted by 3rd gen noob+30 September 2003 - 15:06--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3rd gen noob @ 30 September 2003 - 15:06)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Shad0w Hacker@30 September 2003 - 23:03
Yeah they show up, thats what sucks.
well, you learn something new every day then... [/b][/quote]
The only reason i know is becuase i had a file that had 2 soiurces and it just sat there not connecting. If his download slots were full it would remotley que me. Also i check to see if he was sharing any files and nope. I may be wroung but i am pretty sure they show up.

GMC0529

09-30-2003, 11:56 PM

Originally posted by Shad0w Hacker+30 September 2003 - 23:09--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Shad0w Hacker @ 30 September 2003 - 23:09)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by 3rd gen noob@30 September 2003 - 15:06
<!--QuoteBegin-Shad0w Hacker@30 September 2003 - 23:03
Yeah they show up, thats what sucks.
well, you learn something new every day then...
The only reason i know is becuase i had a file that had 2 soiurces and it just sat there not connecting. If his download slots were full it would remotley que me. Also i check to see if he was sharing any files and nope. I may be wroung but i am pretty sure they show up. [/b][/quote]
All the better the reason to remove them from shared folders.... at least then you would have an idea of what files are ACTUALLY available for download......

Correct me if I'm wrong.....

<_<

asmithz

09-30-2003, 11:57 PM

I think its a pretty good idea.

balamm

10-01-2003, 12:01 AM

Originally posted by GMC0529@30 September 2003 - 16:56

All the better the reason to remove them from shared folders.... at least then you would have an idea of what files are ACTUALLY available for download......

Correct me if I'm wrong.....

<_<
Your Wrong ;)

Shared = Shared
Available = Available

If it ain't shared, It ain't visible or available. Not in any list.

Unless it's a fake list.

And you don't want to stay connected to that source for long anyway.

Switeck

10-01-2003, 12:01 AM

Originally posted by Shad0w Hacker@30 September 2003 - 18:09
The only reason i know is becuase i had a file that had 2 soiurces and it just sat there not connecting. If his download slots were full it would remotley que me. Also i check to see if he was sharing any files and nope. I may be wroung but i am pretty sure they show up.
The remote queue DOES have a upload limit -- beyond which you'll just go directly to more sources needed instead of remotely queued.

GMC0529

10-01-2003, 12:05 AM

Originally posted by balamm@1 October 2003 - 00:01
<_<
Your Wrong ;)

Shared = Shared
Available = Available

If it ain't shared, It ain't visible or available. Not in any list.

Unless it's a fake list.

And you don't want to stay connected to that source for long anyway. [/quote]
Thx for the info....hoping this is the case...just seems to be more and more frequent than I like....

;)

asmithz

10-01-2003, 12:07 AM

Yeah its getting that way, it gets anoying.

GMC0529

10-01-2003, 12:44 AM

Originally posted by Switeck@1 October 2003 - 00:01
The remote queue DOES have a upload limit -- beyond which you'll just go directly to more sources needed instead of remotely queued.
Any idea then why I will sit remote queued for a file for hours...only to get a 'more sources' message once I get 'connected'??? I usually then pause the download and resume...this usually puts me back in the queue again.

:huh:

Switeck

10-01-2003, 12:49 AM

Originally posted by balamm+30 September 2003 - 19:01--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (balamm @ 30 September 2003 - 19:01)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-GMC0529@30 September 2003 - 16:56

All the better the reason to remove them from shared folders.... at least then you would have an idea of what files are ACTUALLY available for download......

Correct me if I'm wrong.....

<_<
Your Wrong ;)

Shared = Shared
Available = Available

If it ain't shared, It ain't visible or available. Not in any list.

Unless it's a fake list.

And you don't want to stay connected to that source for long anyway. [/b][/quote]
I think if someone is sharing at the time they finished downloading a file, they would report it shared to their Supernode -- which might then report that file as shared by them for 5-15 minutes after they quit sharing it.

If they're never sharing, it won't become even temporarily reported as shared.

The search results you get are ALWAYS based on old news -- often a few minutes old to possibly an hour old.
It takes infinite bandwidth to keep everything instantly updated.

GMC0529

10-01-2003, 12:56 AM

Originally posted by Switeck@1 October 2003 - 00:49
I think if someone is sharing at the time they finished downloading a file, they would report it shared to their Supernode -- which might then report that file as shared by them for 5-15 minutes after they quit sharing it.

If they're never sharing, it won't become even temporarily reported as shared.

The search results you get are ALWAYS based on old news -- often a few minutes old to possibly an hour old.
It takes infinite bandwidth to keep everything instantly updated.
Makes sense..... still a pain though.

<_<

Switeck

10-01-2003, 02:44 AM

Originally posted by GMC0529+30 September 2003 - 19:44--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (GMC0529 @ 30 September 2003 - 19:44)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Switeck@1 October 2003 - 00:01
The remote queue DOES have a upload limit -- beyond which you'll just go directly to more sources needed instead of remotely queued.
Any idea then why I will sit remote queued for a file for hours...only to get a 'more sources' message once I get 'connected'??? I usually then pause the download and resume...this usually puts me back in the queue again.

:huh: [/b][/quote]
The person you've connected with may have set uploads to 'unlimited' bandwidth and it's causing droppy behavior or they have 20+ to unlimited uploads allowed at once. Nothing ever finishes and lots of connections break due to lack of bandwidth.

Sparkle1984

10-01-2003, 02:43 PM

I think it would be a good idea that if a file you're trying to get is in Remotely Queued status, you could find out what number in the queue you are. Or is it not possible? I think on the edonkey network they do tell you what number you are.

Adster

10-01-2003, 02:50 PM

http://www.maddenmania.com/forums/images/smilies/distrub.gif

...........

Sparkle1984

10-01-2003, 03:13 PM

Originally posted by Adster@1 October 2003 - 14:50
http://www.maddenmania.com/forums/images/smilies/distrub.gif

...........
Who you shaking your head at?? Me?! :lol:

Adster

10-01-2003, 03:20 PM

no shaking my head on the original post

GMC0529

10-01-2003, 03:27 PM

Originally posted by Adster@1 October 2003 - 15:20
no shaking my head on the original post
Why????

:huh:

zohebakhtar007

10-01-2003, 09:06 PM

Originally posted by 3rd gen noob@30 September 2003 - 22:59
this doesn't make sense
im with you

GMC0529

10-02-2003, 02:19 AM

Yeah...I'm a NOOB... I guess I asked for it by posting in the first place.

:rolleyes:

Switeck

10-02-2003, 04:15 AM

Originally posted by GMC0529@1 October 2003 - 21:19
Yeah...I'm a NOOB... I guess I asked for it by posting in the first place.
The original post didn't make much sense, but your follow-up posts show there's a few very thorny issues that even the experts don't know all the answers too.

Nobody knows or can tell how to see what position in the queue they are. (when remotely queued)

Even I'm guessing why you'd be in a queue for such a long time, drop, get need more sources, and then pause and resume and instantly get queued again to the same person.

You can try messaging the person you're getting queued to if you can click quick enough when it's trying to connect but just before it goes into the remotely queued state and ask them if there's any problems on their end.

Might want to recommend Kazaa Lite++ if they don't have it. :)

GMC0529

10-02-2003, 09:29 PM

Originally posted by Switeck@2 October 2003 - 04:15
You can try messaging the person you're getting queued to if you can click quick enough when it's trying to connect but just before it goes into the remotely queued state and ask them if there's any problems on their end.

Might want to recommend Kazaa Lite++ if they don't have it. :)
Yeah... I've tried messaging, but got no responses so far...thanks for the help though. If I do happen to find out what the prob is, I'll make sure I let ya know.

Thnx again

;)