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raf111
10-01-2003, 02:44 AM
Yes, it is happening my friends... Some of you were too sceptical to believe that the Riaa can be stopped, maybe that news flash will make a believer out of you, or at least you might be a little more "open minded".

Yes my friends, Christmas isn't everyday, but it's near and...
<singing>
Santa Claus is comming to youuuuuu&#33;&#33;&#33;



NEWS&#33;&#33;&#33;9/30/03 Beginning of an end of RIAA etc.&#33;&#33;&#33; (http://www.thebighack.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=77&mode=thread&order=1&thold=0)

Gavin Halcyon
10-01-2003, 03:52 AM
As a lawyer myself (not in the USA by the way) i find that the canadian option (the fees in the cd-rīs) is good, but for what i was able to understand from the article you linked me to, thatīs even better.

Just a little and unnoticeable question. . . how do i eat it&#33;&#33;&#33;???

Simple plain words for a "not-so-educated-about-technical-pc-language" kind of guys would be appreciated.


Gavin.

DasScoot
10-01-2003, 04:48 AM
Sounds like just another P2P to me.

RealitY
10-01-2003, 06:15 AM
Interesting...

Bobohiotk
10-02-2003, 02:48 AM
This is interesting. I think I get the gist of this, but maybe not. If I&#39;m correct, here&#39;s a simplified conceptualization. Using the metaphor of music notation as an example, OFF is akin to taking a song, breaking it up into very fine elements, these elements being so ordinary (such as the individual pieces comprising a song like a 1/4 note) and then having many other songs decomposed likewise. Since there are many songs with the &#39;same quarter note&#39;, there is no way of proving that each of the elements are part of an identifiable copyrighted material.

Put another way, imagine that one took 10 copyrighted manuscripts and shredded them into very fine pieces. How would anyone be able to prove that the fine paper pieces are part of a copyrighted manuscript? Very cool concept. Thanks for the info.

thedirtyd
10-02-2003, 02:59 AM
i think this is a sweet idea. and if it works kazaa lite should somehow support it in their program.

Meehowski
10-02-2003, 03:10 AM
Q.E.D.

Gavin Halcyon
10-02-2003, 03:31 AM
Thanks for the "plain terms" explanation.

Maybe the dirty d is right, if kazaa lite find a way to support it, itīll be a kick in the . . . you know where to those guys trying to stop filesharing, at least until some smart guy developes a law against it.

Thanks again.

Gre1
10-02-2003, 04:30 AM
I could have sworn I posted in this topic but I see it must be a new one. Like I said before why would u want to try to bring down the RIAA, there would be no good music anymore.

raf111
10-02-2003, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by Gre1@2 October 2003 - 04:30
I could have sworn I posted in this topic but I see it must be a new one. Like I said before why would u want to try to bring down the RIAA, there would be no good music anymore.
First you gotta ask yourself a question... What is RIAA...?
It&#39;s the corruption behind the entertainment industry. It&#39;s the people that have always been taking advantage of artists...So that&#39;s what they want to anihilate... There will be some other ways to support artists, like even label controlled by the Government... We already pay taxes, besides there will still be a lot of profits, to even patch up budget holes...

Also...
This is how their revoulutionary system supposed to work...
http://thebighack.org/modules.php?op=modlo...=article&sid=78 (http://thebighack.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=78)


There is more I&#39;ve found... :D
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,54812,00.html
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=10229

And also you might consider signing those three petitions...
Reclaim the Public Domain (http://www.petitiononline.com/eldred/petition.html) Sign it&#33;&#33;
To: U.S. Congress, RIAA, All Record Companies, Spoiled Artists Sign it&#33;&#33; (http://www.petitiononline.com/riaawar/petition.html)
Take a Stand Against the Madness; Stop the RIAA&#33;Sign it&#33;&#33; (http://www.eff.org/share/petition/)


if anyone knows any hacker group that is willing to participate in the "Big hack" let them know, and tell them to contact Mods at the "Big hack".
They are still recruting new groups every day and they want to have groups from around the world...

To unite, means to be unstoppable and victorius...

Gre1
10-02-2003, 07:24 PM
I see no artists that is good worried about the RIAA, in fact most likely they support the RIAA for trying to stop their music from being download. Also, the RIAA doesn&#39;t take advantage of artists.

flying tiger
10-04-2003, 04:19 AM
hi i have been reading all kinds of posts alll over this forum about riaa. well im getting pissed off about it just sitting here. i had kazaa lit for a while but then stopped because of the riaa. its not right they meake us pay 15 dollars for a cd. that has songs on it. i am against the riaa all the way because it is not right what they do. like some people say we should buy more cds to lower the price. nooo. the cd companys are just money hogs they will keep it the same price or maybe even raise it. i am getting kazaa back now and i hope it is as secure as i hope it is. because i dont want any stupid person talking to me about im in trouble for listening to something i didnt pay for.

thank you for your time.

SodiumChloride
10-04-2003, 04:35 AM
Originally posted by flying tiger@3 October 2003 - 21:19
the cd companys are just money hogs they will keep it the same price or maybe even raise it
One company slashed prices not too long ago. Was it Columbia?

flying tiger
10-04-2003, 04:42 AM
all i am saying is that the riaa needs to stop. also is kazza secure enough for this. will it block all riaa users. if not how can i?

Sparkle1984
10-04-2003, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by flying tiger@4 October 2003 - 04:42
all i am saying is that the riaa needs to stop. also is kazza secure enough for this. will it block all riaa users. if not how can i?
It doesn&#39;t guarantee to block them all, but if you have version 2.4.2 or higher, and keep the IP blocker in the Tools updated frequently, you will have some protection at least. :)

raf111
10-05-2003, 05:07 AM
Originally posted by Gre1@2 October 2003 - 19:24
I see no artists that is good worried about the RIAA, in fact most likely they support the RIAA for trying to stop their music from being download. Also, the RIAA doesn&#39;t take advantage of artists.
As far as I&#39;m concerned, RIAA is just an organization sponcored by the CD labels etc. owners, to fight with growing filesharing. Now some artists, just signed under it , which might have been a suicide for them(check here) (http://www.boycott-riaa.com/membership.php), because fans where disgusted by the fact, that their idols were going to hunt and punish the "hands that feed them", because besides sharing most also bought their CD&#39;s. Some artists, like...hmmm... I think Chuck D from "Public enemy" was suporting file sharers, saying that it&#39;s nothing new, people always were getting stuff off of the radio, or copying something from a friend.

Now by saying RIAA takes advantage of artists, I meant the corruption, the CD labels owners etc.
And If you skeptical... go there...
http://www.boycott-riaa.com/facts/truth.php

It&#39;s obious, they are trying to fight. It&#39;s not like they will not be able to put food on the table because of the file sharing, but they are terrified that they might loose their private jets... aaawwwww... poor them... :rolleyes: :P :lol:

all i am saying is that the riaa needs to stop. also is kazza secure enough for this. will it block all riaa users. if not how can i?

About that... well... I&#39;ll reffer you to this link again, this might be an answer for you... follow this link...

NEWS&#33;&#33;&#33;9/30/03 Beginning of an end of RIAA etc.&#33;&#33;&#33; (http://forums.shareaza.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7082)It&#39;s a link to a thread where discussion about it takes place.

...and in there you will find more links on the subject and links to the actual "Big Hack" site...


As a lawyer myself (not in the USA by the way) i find that the canadian option (the fees in the cd-rīs) is good, but for what i was able to understand from the article you linked me to, thatīs even better.

Just a little and unnoticeable question. . . how do i eat it&#33;&#33;&#33;???

Simple plain words for a "not-so-educated-about-technical-pc-language" kind of guys would be appreciated.


Gavin.

If you, or anyone else still needs some more explanation on how it works, you can join the "Big Hack" forum, and post your question there. They&#39;re really nice and will gladly answer any of your questions.
Also If you want, I can Invite one of their "hack masters" to join our discussion, but I don&#39;t want to trouble them too much, so it might be better if you post your question at Shareaza&#39;s forum (link above), since I&#39;ve already asked one of them to answer some questions people might have...
And as a lawyer, you might bring a lot different perspective to this interesting debate... I&#39;d love to see you there. :)