View Full Version : Best idea a tracker ever had?
KushBlow
08-03-2009, 06:44 AM
Except no ratio what are some cool features or ideas have you seen implemented on trackers?
For me it's probably the "clubs" on fsc. Haven't been able to experience it but being in say the fight club for example sounds really intriguing.
May be...
FSC(Games and clubs)+SCT(nice pretime)+GFT(no ratio, nice design)
Funkin'
08-03-2009, 06:55 AM
Share Index and Seed Points(more sites need to implement systems like these). Or even bonus points.
C-mos
08-03-2009, 07:00 AM
we all know that fsc has the best ideas
^^)
Glitterstep
08-03-2009, 07:25 AM
Maybe Pretome and PTN for its gold points system and Blackjack!!And for being a ratio free tracker!!
C-mos
08-03-2009, 07:32 AM
glitterstep ..blackjack and gold /cash / points//are everywhere :).not the first and surely not the last .
ftn is a ratio free tracker too :/
n00bz0r
08-03-2009, 07:37 AM
FSC has always been implementing cool ideas..
watch out for more to come.. :D
Glitterstep
08-03-2009, 07:39 AM
glitterstep ..blackjack and gold /cash / points//are everywhere :).not the first and surely not the last .
ftn is a ratio free tracker too :/
OOps dint really know that.....Anyway,because of blackjack and poker im very acive on pretome..lol!!...
filenetworks
08-03-2009, 07:43 AM
Sparvar - Invite applications require users to insert a code to their profile page on other trackers when providing ratio proof . Makes it near impossible to fake them.
BitShock - Has a guest account where users can try the tracker before registering. Would help to minimize number of folks who sign up to have a look around and never use the site again.
^^ now those two i've never heard of.how does that code thing work exactly coz it still sounds fakeable to me?
1000possibleclaws
08-03-2009, 08:32 AM
Sparvar - Invite applications require users to insert a code to their profile page on other trackers when providing ratio proof . Makes it near impossible to fake them.
Not the first site to do that. The other site has never been mentioned on FST afaik so I won't spoil it for everyone, but yeah you had to be PU on a certain tracker and it involved some sort of code in the aforementioned tracker when making an app. ;)
edit: on to the topic, I think gazelle's notification system is the most innovative and useful thing done for tracker's recently.
The_Martinator
08-03-2009, 08:52 AM
Share Index and Seed Points(more sites need to implement systems like these). Or even bonus points.
+1 I agree with both of those. Both are great for people like me that have slow up speed but make up for it by seeding for a long time.
redMonster
08-03-2009, 09:00 AM
The bounty system on requests introduced by What.cd/Gazelle
The bounty system on requests introduced by What.cd/Gazelle
Also the entire Gazelle project. Everything's so organized and clean. :)
C-mos
08-03-2009, 10:46 AM
gazelle = phail :unsure:
cinephilia
08-03-2009, 12:43 PM
Karagarga's MoM (Masters of the Month)
C-mos
08-03-2009, 01:19 PM
ptn had the idea 2
That1Guy
08-03-2009, 04:14 PM
Definitely the share index system. imo it still pwns the typical "no ratio system" and I believe it was around before trackers started going "no ratio".
brento
08-03-2009, 04:25 PM
Definitely the share index system. imo it still pwns the typical "no ratio system" and I believe it was around before trackers started going "no ratio".
I agree with you. It keeps people seeding old files so they will not die.
realityhd
08-03-2009, 04:54 PM
The thing that makes torrenting cool to me is knowing that if something is released, that I will have the opportunity to download it from my primary site soon after it is released. So I think a scene site that races almost all the content I want (don't care about porn 0day or music). FTN fell off a bit, missing many releases lately or coming late. SCT and as far as I remember SCC are the tops when it comes to this. TL will also get it, but later of course and it's rampant with noobs and ads.
I didn't think the clubs at FSC were anything great. They have a few club based uploads and a forum but it's nothing too interesting or active (last year at least, but then again, the whole place seemed kinda dead to me). The FunSpace was kinda lame too. I know there are a lot of fanboys here but I didn't see what the fuss was about at FSC. But I'm a dick so maybe that's my problem.
^^ now those two i've never heard of.how does that code thing work exactly coz it still sounds fakeable to me?
It's even more secure than providing a profile link because that profile link will then have a long alphanumeric code in the info section of the profile which is not fakable unless you had a friend put the code in that very profile link you provided.
https://wigornot.com/f/ "The Site" is the other one that uses it. It's an ok under the radar forum-based tracker with a seemingly unique community. They ran a promo on what a while back.
https://wigornot.com/f/ "The Site" is the other one that uses it. It's an ok under the radar forum-based tracker with a seemingly unique community. They ran a promo on what a while back.
The site must be one of the worst trackers I've ever visited. :dabs:
realityhd
08-03-2009, 05:13 PM
Yeah it seems to be filled with hipsters and emos.
Cabalo
08-03-2009, 05:14 PM
no ratio = TPB as a pioneer
Mugur
08-03-2009, 05:17 PM
Can someone be so kind to explain the share index system to me?
Can someone be so kind to explain the share index system to me?
The Share Index system is unique to FSC, and was designed to help those that find it hard to seed back enough to maintain a healthy ratio. For each 24 hours of connectivity, members earn a ratio 0.10 for each active torrent. That means that even if no one leeches from a seeder, within 10 days of sharing he will have a ratio of at least 1.0 on that torrent! This special ratio is called a Share Ratio, and is basically a bonus, added to the traditional up/down file ratio.
The Share Ratio is added to the member's file ratio to create a combined ratio, which is called a Share Index. The Share Index is the defacto measure of sharing on the site. If you are partially successful in seeding some data back, the Share Ratio for that torrent will help to boost the file ratio. All this goes into the Share Index.
Source: WTAW List
Yoann64
08-03-2009, 05:21 PM
Goem (free leech slot) and BCG (SP).
brightsid
08-03-2009, 06:57 PM
Gazelle for specialized trackers was(is) a fantastic project. Ftn's non ratio system was something new (although I'm not sure they were the first ones). I like Hdbits advanced search options. Sharing bonus systems are good as long as they are simple
Ftn's non ratio system was something new (although I'm not sure they were the first ones).
Nope, they were not the first one to introduce it.
ca_aok
08-03-2009, 08:23 PM
+1 on Gazelle, especially for music trackers.
mrnobody
08-03-2009, 09:56 PM
browse page w/ torrents, seeders, leechers etc :wanko:
BitShock - Has a guest account where users can try the tracker before registering. Would help to minimize number of folks who sign up to have a look around and never use the site again.
I have not tested this but that should be very easy to do.
Just remove 1 line from the top of browse.php (or any other page you want them to see)
loggedinorreturn();
and then anyone can view it, even if they try to download a torrent, they cant as they will not have a passkey.
But i think you will find that most trackers prefer not to let just anyone view what they have, which is the reason, as far as i am aware, only this tracker actually does it.
and if you mean a guest account, like i have an account, that will be easy as well.
just create an account and tell ppl the user/pass, (keyword for us) stop them from downloading/uploading/posting etc etc, and just let them sign in with it.
Which tbh i have never even thought of before until now lol
And it may stop 1000s of members joining up and never using their account, if they can see what it is like first.
PS: In answer to the ops question, and everyone knows what i am going to say. SP mod with our Hit and Run system, to me we cant have one without the other.
TP635
08-04-2009, 01:47 AM
I like to see a tracker where members can earn bonus from downloading and not just seeding. Combine that with some form of h&r rules; it can increase the trackers' activities.
Funkin'
08-04-2009, 09:58 AM
I like to see a tracker where members can earn bonus from downloading and not just seeding.
As would I. This was actually brought up on another track. Hopefully the staff took notice and will implement such a system. This would be a fresh new way to promote more leeching.
n00bz0r
08-04-2009, 11:27 AM
I like to see a tracker where members can earn bonus from downloading and not just seeding.
As would I. This was actually brought up on another track. Hopefully the staff took notice and will implement such a system. This would be a fresh new way to promote more leeching.
A tracker thats under dev is gonna implement something never ever seen before..and yeah, downloading activity is taken in account as well in the complex and kinda holistic algorithm being developed and tested.. :happy:
ya all will get to know about it in good time.. :yup:
The_Martinator
08-04-2009, 11:34 AM
As would I. This was actually brought up on another track. Hopefully the staff took notice and will implement such a system. This would be a fresh new way to promote more leeching.
A tracker thats under dev is gonna implement something never ever seen before..and yeah, downloading activity is taken in account as well in the complex and kinda holistic algorithm being developed and tested.. :happy:
ya all will get to know about it in good time.. :yup:
Have you cleared up your inbox, mate? :lol:
mrnobody
08-04-2009, 11:52 AM
I like to see a tracker where members can earn bonus from downloading and not just seeding. Combine that with some form of h&r rules; it can increase the trackers' activities.
some tracker give out karma/bonus for downloading (along with uploading and seedling) if that's what you mean :unsure:
I like to see a tracker where members can earn bonus from downloading and not just seeding. Combine that with some form of h&r rules; it can increase the trackers' activities.
I can't remember which tracker it is, but it uses total traffic, that encourages leeching. :ermm:
And it may stop 1000s of members joining up and never using their account, if they can see what it is like first.
Probably the most logical reason for a tracker to implement this feature.Its no need for people to sign up to trackers only to find out they aren't anything close to their tastes(happened to me with extremebits somebody told me it was a music tracker),a guest account for test driving sounds like a good feature.Though i figure with trackers inclination towards being mysteries this is highly unlikely to take off.
A little offtopic but does anybody know what these sites are all about?
http://www.schizostick.com/d/http://www.tgclub.org/
TP635
08-04-2009, 01:21 PM
I like to see a tracker where members can earn bonus from downloading and not just seeding. Combine that with some form of h&r rules; it can increase the trackers' activities.
some tracker give out karma/bonus for downloading (along with uploading and seedling) if that's what you mean :unsure:
I have not come across one; can you name the tracker. if that is possible.
I like to see a tracker where members can earn bonus from downloading and not just seeding. Combine that with some form of h&r rules; it can increase the trackers' activities.
I can't remember which tracker it is, but it uses total traffic, that encourages leeching. :ermm:
You may be referring to perome; which use total traffic rather that down/up ie ratio, but give credit only to seeding but not dl.
Never heard of perome. Must be another tracker I'm referring to. :P
n00bz0r
08-04-2009, 02:51 PM
A tracker thats under dev is gonna implement something never ever seen before..and yeah, downloading activity is taken in account as well in the complex and kinda holistic algorithm being developed and tested.. :happy:
ya all will get to know about it in good time.. :yup:
Have you cleared up your inbox, mate? :lol:
yea its empty.. :shifty:
Swepsycho
08-04-2009, 02:54 PM
Have you cleared up your inbox, mate? :lol:
yea its empty.. :shifty:
i hate disabled privs... can`t send u pm....
n00bz0r
08-04-2009, 04:06 PM
yea its empty.. :shifty:
i hate disabled privs... can`t send u pm....
i wonder why would you want to PM me after i "disappointed ya wid my lies".. :ermm:
but either way..i guess its FST at its best. :fst:
cinephilia
08-04-2009, 04:16 PM
actually, the best idea a tracker ever had was inviting me to be a member.
Cabalo
08-04-2009, 04:17 PM
Have you cleared up your inbox, mate? :lol:
yea its empty.. :shifty:
polish your arse, it's about to be kissed. :happy:
The_Martinator
08-04-2009, 04:54 PM
actually, the best idea a tracker ever had was inviting me to be a member.
:lol: Good one. At least you're modest.
yea its empty.. :shifty:
polish your arse, it's about to be kissed. :happy:
Don't worry, I don't need to kiss his (anymore). :P Nice try, though, lol.
yea its empty.. :shifty:
polish your arse, it's about to be kissed. :happy:
:lol:
Funkin'
08-04-2009, 08:13 PM
A tracker thats under dev is gonna implement something never ever seen before..and yeah, downloading activity is taken in account as well in the complex and kinda holistic algorithm being developed and tested.. :happy:
ya all will get to know about it in good time.. :yup:
Well, that's great a new tracker is trying something new. And this will be fine for people that are interested in joining new trackers. But I really wish a few existing sites would implement such a system since some aren't really looking to join any others(especially another 0day/general tracker).
Share Index and Seed Points(more sites need to implement systems like these). Or even bonus points.
yep, fsc and bcg pwns with those features. any kind of bonus is a half win though. freeleech slots are also great.
DV8type
08-05-2009, 12:13 AM
Personally, FunSpace w/ the personal trackers mod. And the clubs are always fun. Tokens, FunArcade, gifts....All found in one place.
and much more to come..... :O
gionman
08-05-2009, 01:00 AM
a forum that manifest into a tracker once certain/unknown criteria are met
Cabalo
08-05-2009, 05:37 AM
a forum that manifest into a tracker once certain/unknown criteria are met
jeez, u really suck up to get into revolt...
this is not the first thread, you guys check this out: http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bittorrent-invite-giveaways-and-requests-90/t-revolt-screen-and-brief-review-198792/page3#post3265475
one year old bump to suck up, and now this post... ffs, don't make it so obvious, it doesn't make it any funnier.
n00bz0r
08-05-2009, 06:55 AM
a forum that manifest into a tracker once certain/unknown criteria are met
touche..
some people just don't give up.. :facepalm:
The_Martinator
08-05-2009, 08:00 AM
Yep, that was pretty obvious, lol.
Seedpoints on BCG!
For ratio whores... it only takes you up to a 1 ratio and it leaves your actual ratio as crap, so they will still want to seed.
The more you upload the less time you have to stay on the torrent, so it discourages you from capping your bandwith.
And the seeding time is based on torrent size so bigger files need to be seeded longer.
And at the same time, allowing this ratio free type mechanism encourages more downloading and more peers!
KushBlow
08-08-2009, 04:58 AM
Personally, FunSpace w/ the personal trackers mod. And the clubs are always fun. Tokens, FunArcade, gifts....All found in one place.
and much more to come..... :O
Gifts too? This operation you have going sounds more fun than MSN :O.
I like to see a tracker where members can earn bonus from downloading and not just seeding. Combine that with some form of h&r rules; it can increase the trackers' activities.
some tracker give out karma/bonus for downloading (along with uploading and seedling) if that's what you mean :unsure:
But is this karma bonus for traffic activity big enough to make a difference?
Also sorry rart but I just noticed this so I made a motivational pic for shits and giggles.
http://i31.tinypic.com/qqzkld.jpg
Haha. That bastard. I'll have to find some way to get back at him. Its been a rather slow day and I've been a bit bored...
brento
08-08-2009, 12:08 PM
The guy who's idea it was to go ratioless obviously didn't know what a great idea he had or else he would have copyrighted it.
Intr4ns1t
08-08-2009, 06:02 PM
The guy who's idea it was to go ratioless obviously didn't know what a great idea he had or else he would have copyrighted it.
What kind of pirate would he be then though? :P
beethoven
08-08-2009, 09:17 PM
best: account parking
worst: ratioless tracker
worst: ratioless tracker
Why do you think so? A ratiofree tracker both helps and improves the activity on the site astonishingly (at least the one I'm on).
The guy who's idea it was to go ratioless obviously didn't know what a great idea he had or else he would have copyrighted it.
What kind of pirate would he be then though? :P
Don't be so sure it was a pirate who came up with it.
beethoven
08-08-2009, 09:43 PM
Why do you think so? A ratiofree tracker both helps and improves the activity on the site astonishingly (at least the one I'm on).
as far as i have experienced, ratioless usually comes with a rule like 'seed for 72 hours', with as a result that older torrents are bad seeded.
I may be wrong, and maybe it's perfect for some, but i haven't seen the advantages over a tracker with ratio
Why do you think so? A ratiofree tracker both helps and improves the activity on the site astonishingly (at least the one I'm on).
as far as i have experienced, ratioless usually comes with a rule like 'seed for 72 hours', with as a result that older torrents are bad seeded.
I may be wrong, and maybe it's perfect for some, but i haven't seen the advantages over a tracker with ratio
It variates from tracker to tracker (like everything else in the world variates). The bad seeded part is true on some well known 0day trackers, but that's not the case on a tracker I know. No seedingrules exist but yet members keeps seeding their files for months, and some members even for years. :)
KushBlow
08-08-2009, 10:18 PM
Why do you think so? A ratiofree tracker both helps and improves the activity on the site astonishingly (at least the one I'm on).
I also think the users and staff play a big role in accomplishing this. If you have friendly staff, dedicated users and few/none rotten apples this works greatly in it's favor. And the "tracker you know" has succeeded in this.
Funnily enough, in 2007 sometime, i made a staff thread saying we should try ratio free, lets just say most of the staff thought I was mad, torrents would die overnight, everyone would hit and run, members only seeded for PU/SPU (well saying as though we got rid of those and have not seen a drawback in the above, that was rubbish) etc etc.
But as you know, we never actually went for it, even though I wanted to (and i still think it will work, but we have other plans now)
brento
08-09-2009, 02:23 AM
Funnily enough, in 2007 sometime, i made a staff thread saying we should try ratio free, lets just say most of the staff thought I was mad, torrents would die overnight, everyone would hit and run, members only seeded for PU/SPU (well saying as though we got rid of those and have not seen a drawback in the above, that was rubbish) etc etc.
But as you know, we never actually went for it, even though I wanted to (and i still think it will work, but we have other plans now)
IMHO, I don't think it would be a great idea on your tracker Stoi. You guys got tons of super-rare stuff there (a good bit of which id down to 1-3 seeders) and I feel like a large number of seeds would be gone if you would switch to ratioless.
In other words, why fix what isn't broken? Your SP system is awesome.
I believe a well fleshed out bonus system to encourage seeding could make it possible for older torrents to survive on ratioless trackers.
Well, we would have kept the SP system and the hit and run script, we just would have not shown up and down ratios (which would be the easiest to code atm lolcompared to these achievement tables.)
You need to keep ratios lol, users will stay on torrents longer to increase epeen!
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