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10-01-2003, 07:28 PM

Music Sharing Decrease

Lawsuits Damp Down P2P Audience

LOS ANGELES -- Lawsuits launched against individuals for illegal file-sharing appear to have tempered activity on the more popular peer-to-peer networks, new U.S. research released this week shows.

Nielsen//NetRatings, which tracks Internet usage, said on Tuesday it found a 41 percent drop over the last three months in the audience for Kazaa, the leading music file-sharing service.
September 8, the Recording Industry Association of America, a group representing big labels like AOL Time Warner's Warner Music and Vivendi Universal's Universal Music Group, sued 261 people for illegal file-sharing.

"The RIAA is clearly sending a strong message to American Web users and the message appears to be working," said Greg Bloom, an analyst with Nielsen//NetRatings.

"With hundreds of individuals facing real lawsuits, the threat to music file-sharers is very serious," he said.

Since the week ending June 29, traffic to Kazaa has fallen 41 percent to about 3.9 million unique visitors from 6.5 million in the week ending September 21.

Traffic to Morpheus fell to 261,000 unique visitors in the week ending September 21 from 272,000 in the week ending June 29.

Meanwhile, the RIAA this week reached settlements with 64 people, including 12 with people not yet sued.

On Monday, several peer-to-peer networks unveiled a code of conduct to encourage responsible behavior among the millions of users and asked Congress to figure out a way record labels and other copyright holders can be reimbursed for the material traded online.

Meanwhile, other data released on Tuesday showed that as of August a vast majority of teens believed downloading music for free was morally acceptable.

The August 2003 Gallup Poll Tuesday Briefing Youth Survey, a premium service offered by the Gallup organization, found 83 percent of 517 teens, aged 13 to 17, found downloading free music was morally acceptable.

Gallup officials noted the RIAA's lawsuits in September may have raised awareness of the issue.

"We have to be a little cautious in interpreting this, but it does show that off the top of their heads in August, the vast majority of teenagers said, 'Sure, why not? It's perfectly moral to download,"' said Frank Newport, editor-in-chief of the Gallup Poll Tuesday Briefing.

"We do poll teenagers regularly and I think we'll use exactly the same question again soon and see if things have changed," he said.

SOURCE (http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,60654,00.html)

I don't believe any word from this shit ,so don't stop to download and share your files ,because this is only a strategy.Last night with Kazaa Lite 4.354.678 users so,where is the truth?

bryanskrantz

10-01-2003, 07:54 PM

oy vey. the RIAA is loosing the battle with the court. CONGRESS THEMSELVES ARE WORRIED ON WHAT KIND OF POWER THE RIAA HAS.

james_bond_rulez

10-01-2003, 08:05 PM

Originally posted by sharedholder@1 October 2003 - 19:28
Music Sharing Decrease

Lawsuits Damp Down P2P Audience

LOS ANGELES -- Lawsuits launched against individuals for illegal file-sharing appear to have tempered activity on the more popular peer-to-peer networks, new U.S. research released this week shows.

Nielsen//NetRatings, which tracks Internet usage, said on Tuesday it found a 41 percent drop over the last three months in the audience for Kazaa, the leading music file-sharing service.
September 8, the Recording Industry Association of America, a group representing big labels like AOL Time Warner's Warner Music and Vivendi Universal's Universal Music Group, sued 261 people for illegal file-sharing.

"The RIAA is clearly sending a strong message to American Web users and the message appears to be working," said Greg Bloom, an analyst with Nielsen//NetRatings.

"With hundreds of individuals facing real lawsuits, the threat to music file-sharers is very serious," he said.

Since the week ending June 29, traffic to Kazaa has fallen 41 percent to about 3.9 million unique visitors from 6.5 million in the week ending September 21.

Traffic to Morpheus fell to 261,000 unique visitors in the week ending September 21 from 272,000 in the week ending June 29.

Meanwhile, the RIAA this week reached settlements with 64 people, including 12 with people not yet sued.

On Monday, several peer-to-peer networks unveiled a code of conduct to encourage responsible behavior among the millions of users and asked Congress to figure out a way record labels and other copyright holders can be reimbursed for the material traded online.

Meanwhile, other data released on Tuesday showed that as of August a vast majority of teens believed downloading music for free was morally acceptable.

The August 2003 Gallup Poll Tuesday Briefing Youth Survey, a premium service offered by the Gallup organization, found 83 percent of 517 teens, aged 13 to 17, found downloading free music was morally acceptable.

Gallup officials noted the RIAA's lawsuits in September may have raised awareness of the issue.

"We have to be a little cautious in interpreting this, but it does show that off the top of their heads in August, the vast majority of teenagers said, 'Sure, why not? It's perfectly moral to download,"' said Frank Newport, editor-in-chief of the Gallup Poll Tuesday Briefing.

"We do poll teenagers regularly and I think we'll use exactly the same question again soon and see if things have changed," he said.

SOURCE (http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,60654,00.html)

I don't believe any word from this shit ,so don't stop to download and share your files ,because this is only a strategy.Last night with Kazaa Lite 4.354.678 users so,where is the truth?
blah blah blah whatever

I dont like to listen to american music anyway, they are all crap

DasScoot

10-01-2003, 10:16 PM

Originally posted by sharedholder@1 October 2003 - 19:28
I don't believe any word from this shit ,so don't stop to download and share your files ,because this is only a strategy.Last night with Kazaa Lite 4.354.678 users so,where is the truth?
Actually you just confirmed it. According to the article the average 3 months ago was 6.5 million.

internet.news

10-01-2003, 10:21 PM

Music Sharing Never Decrease - Sharing oyur thoughts openly is important and files!!! ALSO OFFLINE!!! That is what I will tell the guys if they take me to court!

And I will still share!! Yes... I share 1015 Files :) ...

thanks.

just my thoughts although I understand this copyright issues, but people
still buy cds, don't they? if you buy a cd you also support the artist so he can good music...

10-01-2003, 10:39 PM

I have never seen more than 5 million users online. An average of 6.5 million is total bullshit.

The average used to be around 4.3 million, now it is about 4 million. That is less than a 10% drop. And still more as napster on it's peek.

Benno

10-01-2003, 10:50 PM

What they dont write here is that they dont mean 6.5 millions users on kazaa, but 6 millions page hits for the kazaa homepage. Now they have a 41% drop in page visits. So Paul your page hits should have increased at about 41%. :lol:

Heres the article where they write that, but its in German. http://www.tecchannel.de/news/20031001/the...1001-12014.html (http://www.tecchannel.de/news/20031001/thema20031001-12014.html)

Switeck

10-02-2003, 04:39 AM

Just because they're on Kazaa doesn't mean they're sharing music anymore.

Maybe they're sharing other stuff instead... but probably they just turned sharing off and think they're 'being tough' towards RIAA for still being on Kazaa/KL++ at all!

Leeches do RIAA's work for them!
It makes the probability that the few remaining sources you get when searching for music MP3s are FAKES whenever those sharing music MP3s decreases.

Gre1

10-02-2003, 04:53 AM

A MTV newsperson just said that the sales for cd's are up again. "People are starting to buy music again" is what he said. It's good the RIAA scared some peeps so they would buy music so the attention would die down about P2P sharing until they don't care anymore.

DasScoot

10-02-2003, 05:37 AM

fastrider28

10-02-2003, 12:32 PM

Originally posted by Gre1@2 October 2003 - 04:53
A MTV newsperson just said that the sales for cd's are up again. "People are starting to buy music again" is what he said. It's good the RIAA scared some peeps so they would buy music so the attention would die down about P2P sharing until they don't care anymore.
People need to STOP buying CD's mow more than ever.. to put the RIAA in it's place, they recording industry needs to come down on the RIAA for what they are trying to do... Stop buying CD's everyone... BOYCOTT ON CD PURCHASES!!!

Gutter

10-03-2003, 05:23 PM

its the people that don't know how to file share safely that are going back to buying CDs.

remember that woman that PAID for Kazaa <_<

If she would have looked into it further she could have found kazaa lite for free
Or if she really spent some time looking for the best way to share music she might have found soulseek.

educate yourself

Switeck

10-04-2003, 12:32 AM

Originally posted by fastrider28@2 October 2003 - 07:32
People need to STOP buying CD's mow more than ever.. to put the RIAA in it's place, they recording industry needs to come down on the RIAA for what they are trying to do... Stop buying CD's everyone... BOYCOTT ON CD PURCHASES!!!People need to stop buying RIAA CDs but buy MORE independant artists and possibly small recording company CDs if the price is right.

Then when RIAA reports 'dwindling sales due to music piracy', the OTHER data figures will say 'INCREASED sales due to music SHARING'. And not only will they no longer have a leg to stand on, they will be hanging themselves because it will show THEY are at fault for their own losses.

Gre1

10-04-2003, 06:43 AM

Originally posted by fastrider28+2 October 2003 - 07:32--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (fastrider28 @ 2 October 2003 - 07:32)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Gre1@2 October 2003 - 04:53
A MTV newsperson just said that the sales for cd's are up again. "People are starting to buy music again" is what he said.  It's good the RIAA scared some peeps so they would buy music so the attention would die down about P2P sharing until they don't care anymore.
People need to STOP buying CD's mow more than ever.. to put the RIAA in it's place, they recording industry needs to come down on the RIAA for what they are trying to do... Stop buying CD's everyone... BOYCOTT ON CD PURCHASES!!! [/b][/quote]
No people need to buy cd's now so they will get off of the P2P back.

Sparkle1984

10-04-2003, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by Benno@1 October 2003 - 22:50
What they dont write here is that they dont mean 6.5 millions users on kazaa, but 6 millions page hits for the kazaa homepage. Now they have a 41% drop in page visits. So Paul your page hits should have increased at about 41%. :lol:

Heres the article where they write that, but its in German. http://www.tecchannel.de/news/20031001/the...1001-12014.html (http://www.tecchannel.de/news/20031001/thema20031001-12014.html)
Here's the Google translation of that link you gave us: They are talking about website page views decreasing, not the number of filesharers online.

Less Kazaa visitor because of RIAA complaints 16:49:39 (tecCHANNEL.de, 01,10,2003) the 261 copyright complaints of the Recording Industry Association OF America (RIAA) against US-American InterNet internet-Surfer show effect:  After collections of Nielsen/Netratings the number of visitors reduced Kazaa with the exchange stock exchange in the past three months by 41 per cent.  The RIAA had submitted 2003 copyright complaints on 8 September against 261 Internetsurfer, which had downloaded illegally music titles of one of the different file sharing services on their computers and had then continued to spread this Songs also still.  With 64 surfern the RIAA agreements had been able to obtain, their conditions however does not admit was given.  Against twelve this surfer had exerted, reports the RIAA thereby still no complaint the computer week.  Nielsen compared two weeks of the yearly 2003 with one another for its computation:  On the one hand on 29 June 2003 terminated, on the other hand those, which ran off on 21 September.  In the comparison June with the September week fell the number of the Visits on the Kazaa Website by 41 per cent.  In naked numbers:  Visited the Site in June if still 6.5 million InterNet internet-Surfer and music-exchange-willing, were in September only more 3.9 million.  Less spectacularly however the decrease of the Visits still noticeably was with Morpheus, another file sharing offerer.  In the same comparison period sank here the visitor frequency of 272.000 to 261.000 visitors.  Gallup Gallup-Institut, US-American Meinungsforschungsinstitut, possibly inquired a reason for the considerless shifting actions of music titles under Internetsurfern in an inquiry among young people at the age between 13 and 17 years:  Afterwards do not regard 83 per cent of 517 asked dte rodents it as morally despicable to download itself music titles from the InterNet on their own PCs without paying for this.  (Computerwoche/uba)

cappella(m)

10-04-2003, 06:56 PM

Yeah..that's true. I can german and that's really just about site visits and not about the number of filesharers online. But I also never seen 6,5 million users on kazaa. Normally there were and still are 4,0-4,5 million users online. The only thing that declined is the amount of gigabytes and files shared on kazaa. Earlier I think there were about 7.000.000+ gigabytes and now there are only 5.600.000+ gigabytes... or may be it's also not true..
Greetings from Italy

Sparkle1984

10-04-2003, 09:48 PM

Originally posted by cappella(m)@4 October 2003 - 18:56
Yeah..that's true. I can german and that's really just about site visits and not about the number of filesharers online. But I also never seen 6,5 million users on kazaa. Normally there were and still are 4,0-4,5 million users online. The only thing that declined is the amount of gigabytes and files shared on kazaa. Earlier I think there were about 7.000.000+ gigabytes and now there are only 5.600.000+ gigabytes... or may be it's also not true..
Greetings from Italy
Yes that's true, I remember about 3 months ago there was about 7 million gigabytes, but now there's only about 5 and a half, but the number of users is still round-about the same.
Conclusion: there are more leechers now than there used to be. :(

cappella(m)

10-05-2003, 11:55 AM

Thats really true.. Because some americans and germans suck to use kazaa may be because of this .. HEY U GUYS IF YOU COUNTINUE SO FAR SOON THERE'LL BE NO MUSIC AVAILABLE ONLINE . CONTINUE SHARING AND DONT GET LET YOU DOWN BY THIS ..ssholes !! I dont know in italy everyone continues to share.. Every of my friends continues sharing.. :o !!! quickly..

FuNkY CaPrIcOrN

10-05-2003, 12:09 PM

;) No.People just went to useing other Programs.Either it be SoulSeek, Direct Connect, IRC or whatever else is out there.

:P Kazaa is sooooooo last year. :P

cappella(m)

10-05-2003, 12:13 PM

But we need to keep kazaa. It's still the best and the fastest.. Emule sucks because it's slow and you've to wait 3 years until it connects you somewhere and then you have to wait 30 year until it downloads some big file with a speed of 20kbs maximum.. At kazaa I reached maximum speeds above 120 kb/s second..The only lack of kaza is that there are not such many files on it...like on Emule servers..I refuse to use other programs.. Most of them suck and they are not very quick.. WinMX also..
So GUYS continue sharing and may be use and IP Spoofer to hide your ip.. ! :rolleyes:

Sparkle1984

10-05-2003, 01:07 PM

Originally posted by cappella(m)@5 October 2003 - 12:13
But we need to keep kazaa. It's still the best and the fastest.. Emule sucks because it's slow and you've to wait 3 years until it connects you somewhere and then you have to wait 30 year until it downloads some big file with a speed of 20kbs maximum.. At kazaa I reached maximum speeds above 120 kb/s second..The only lack of kaza is that there are not such many files on it...like on Emule servers..I refuse to use other programs.. Most of them suck and they are not very quick.. WinMX also..
So GUYS continue sharing and may be use and IP Spoofer to hide your ip.. ! :rolleyes:
Yes, that's very true what you say about emule/edonkey, the queues to download stuff are far too long, and doesn't always connect very well.

K-Lite is always my favourite ever program !! :)

cosmic doobie

10-05-2003, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by cappella(m)@5 October 2003 - 12:13

So GUYS continue sharing and may be use and IP Spoofer to hide your ip.. ! :rolleyes:
Please recommend an IP Spoofer
I did not know there was one that will work on Kazaa :unsure: