Is Rave Just Mindless Crap ?

[Neo 721]

Other people may think differently, but to me rave is just an excuse for people who have bad taste and no talent and only the ability to push buttons that make sounds.

[4play]

have you ever been off your tits in a rave, well until you tried it you should not slagg off the people that make the music for it. B)

[3rd gen noob]

i don't want to answer, largely due to the fact that if i do, i'll seem a hypocrite in the whole rap is music topic, but yes

[Cygnuz-Y]

And you think, people need talent to do Trance, techno? :unsure:


I DO!

[FuNkY CaPrIcOrN]

:D I have nothing against Techno, Electronica, Techno-Tribal, Electro, Acid Techno, Neo-Electro, Techno-Dub, Progressive Electronic, Detroit Techno, Electro-Acoustic, Electric Chicago Blues, or Electro-Techno. :D

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by FuNkY CaPrIcOrN@2 October 2003 - 19:34
:D I have nothing against Techno, Electronica, Techno-Tribal, Electro, Acid Techno, Neo-Electro, Techno-Dub, Progressive Electronic, Detroit Techno, Electro-Acoustic, Electric Chicago Blues, or Electro-Techno. :D
what about acid house then?

:rolleyes:

[Jayhawk]

Originally posted by 3rd gen noob+2 October 2003 - 13:37--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3rd gen noob @ 2 October 2003 - 13:37)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-FuNkY CaPrIcOrN@2 October 2003 - 19:34
:D I have nothing against Techno, Electronica, Techno-Tribal, Electro, Acid Techno, Neo-Electro, Techno-Dub, Progressive Electronic, Detroit Techno, Electro-Acoustic, Electric Chicago Blues, or Electro-Techno. :D
what about acid house then?

:rolleyes: [/b][/quote]
acid isnt so cool the other stuff is though

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by KwahyaJ@2 October 2003 - 19:41
acid isnt so cool the other stuff is though
what about deep house then?

[Jayhawk]

Originally posted by 3rd gen noob+2 October 2003 - 13:43--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3rd gen noob @ 2 October 2003 - 13:43)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-KwahyaJ@2 October 2003 - 19:41
acid isnt so cool the other stuff is though
what about deep house then? [/b][/quote]
dont think i know my deep house

[TheDave]

anyone can make a professional sounding dance or rave track in ejay. and i mean anyone

doesnt that say something

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by TheDave@2 October 2003 - 19:47
anyone can make a professional sounding dance or rave track in ejay. and i mean anyone

doesnt that say something
even george bush?

:o

:rolleyes:

[Jayhawk]

Originally posted by 3rd gen noob+2 October 2003 - 13:50--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3rd gen noob @ 2 October 2003 - 13:50)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-TheDave@2 October 2003 - 19:47
anyone can make a professional sounding dance or rave track in ejay. and i mean anyone

doesnt that say something
even george bush?

:o

:rolleyes: [/b][/quote]
he is an exception to every rule

[ezyryder]

Even George Bush isn&#39;t an exception to the rule. Let&#39;s give an example.


Track 1: Generic Boob boob boop tut beep drum beat all the way through
Track 2: synth 1 going da da da da dad da da da da da doooo dad da da
track 3 synth 2 (nothing until 4 bars in) plays synth notes usualy 16ths in tripplets, a lot of octaves going on.
track 4: 16 bars later, picks up a really cheesy bit to get louder for 4 bars, then song resets


repeat till end of song.

get an attractive, bad singer female... hey you&#39;ve got a number one hit&#33;

[3rd gen noob]

where&#39;s the strongbad link?
the techno one, it&#39;s brilliant... :D

edit: here it is

http://www.foowack.com/files/sounds/sbtechno.mp3

[Snee]

Sure, there is a lot of crap out there but every once in a while something brilliant comes along.

The rest of the time, it is crap, but I would certainly not categorize the entire genre as worthless.

[ezyryder]

hahah, that is excellent. I liked his rock guitar one too.

[ezyryder]

I am not a fan of dance, as you may have well guessed. I do think when the "dance" music has things such as trumpets, sax, double bass, guitars, piano and some synths in there and drum kit, with various other drums and someone mixing, then you can get some good creations. the stuff just done on the computer, i find (personally, don&#39;t flame) terrible. I better get more open minded, for my brother in law to be is getting some record deal and he does all this dance what-nots. I would admit, his stuff is musical, nothing like what you hear in the charts, nothing at all.

[namzuf9]

Come on. I mean check out The Prodigy&#39;s early stuff. Pure genius.

Yeah anyone can press a few buttons.
But cant anyone pluck a few strings with one hand while placing their fingers in set locations with the other? Or press a few keys? Or bang a stick against a streched piece of plastic,leather, sythetic material thingy?

Anyone can do it. Its how its done that makes it a hit or miss.

[zacspeed]

have you ever been off your tits in a rave, well until you tried it you should not slagg off the people that make the music for it.
So what your saying is that to appreciate the music, you must first ingest a bin liner full of pharmaceuticals?
Doesn&#39;t really say a lot about the music does it?
:lol:

[Gre1]

Yeah, but wouldn&#39;t mind going to a party :lol:

[Celerystalksme]

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[[B][O][T]]

http://www.mcbriens.net/liam/img/smilies/no.gif

:angry:

BOT

[Adster]

its crap ;)

[Celerystalksme]

Originally posted by [B][O][T]@3 October 2003 - 12:30
http://www.mcbriens.net/liam/img/smilies/no.gif

:angry:

BOT
:(

http://www.mcbriens.net/liam/img/smilies/yes.gif

http://www.klboard.ath.cx/style_images/1/icon12.gif

[Adster]

yes rememre I think BOT is from that part in Europe where techno is huge&#33;&#33;

[AussieSheila]

Originally posted by FuNkY CaPrIcOrN@2 October 2003 - 19:34
:D I have nothing against Techno, Electronica, Techno-Tribal, Electro, Acid Techno, Neo-Electro, Techno-Dub, Progressive Electronic, Detroit Techno, Electro-Acoustic, Electric Chicago Blues, or Electro-Techno. :D
B) Well, I think it&#39;s all crap and acid house is the worst.

;) Just my opinion.

[FuNkY CaPrIcOrN]

Originally posted by AussieSheila+3 October 2003 - 06:35--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (AussieSheila &#064; 3 October 2003 - 06:35)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-FuNkY CaPrIcOrN@2 October 2003 - 19:34
:D I have nothing against Techno, Electronica, Techno-Tribal, Electro, Acid Techno, Neo-Electro, Techno-Dub, Progressive Electronic, Detroit Techno, Electro-Acoustic, Electric Chicago Blues, or Electro-Techno. :D
B) Well, I think it&#39;s all crap and acid house is the worst.

;) Just my opinion. [/b][/quote]
:P That was basically put up as a Joke.I was trying to put up as much related Music as I could think of.....Ran out. :P

;) But really I have nothing against it.What do People really call Rave Music?I mean somebody might consider Nine Inch Nails Rave Music simply because it has some of the same beats.

[4play]

hey acid house is cool :angry:

why limit yourself to one type of music when there are so many out there.

prodigy are an excellent example of what the british rave scene has to offer. music for the jilted generation is an awesome album and always will be. B)

[nanotek]

i do come from europe and yes electronic music is big here :D rave was pretty huge at the start of the nineties and it does take some talent to make .Ever heard of cosmic baby ? check out "thinking about myself" 1992 -can be found on slsk &#33; listen to it and then tell me u only need to push a few buttons to make it then&#33;



also check out : any old mixes from derrick may (acid house) can also be found on slsk B)

[Snee]

I&#39;m pretty keen on Fluke and Chemical brothers, they aren&#39;t really typical rave in my opinion though.

[Neo 721]

I come from europe too and I know that anything artificial never lasts for long.

[Neo 721]

I come from europe too and I know that anything artificial never lasts for long. Some of it may be considered exellent, but in 5 years time it won&#39;t.

[Neo 721]

sorry double post. :angry:

[Celerystalksme]

don&#39;t ya mean triple post :rolleyes:

[Person]

Rave music is great I watched a program that once claimed you can feel the same high from rave music as drugs & as the 2 go hand in hand it&#39;s like double fun&#33; :lol:

[Adster]

wow teh reulsts are close

[Celerystalksme]

this one could go down to the wire :)

[Will_518]

What do you mean go down to the wire?
Why did those members get banned? i don&#39;t understand.
And, yes, i do listen to rave. techno, acid... And whatever that other thing is called.

[mondaeo]

Come on. I mean check out The Prodigy&#39;s early stuff. Pure genius.

Yeah anyone can press a few buttons.
But cant anyone pluck a few strings with one hand while placing their fingers in set locations with the other? Or press a few keys? Or bang a stick against a streched piece of plastic,leather, sythetic material thingy?

Anyone can do it. Its how its done that makes it a hit or miss.

but to push a few button only requires a certain taste in music considering what you are pushing buttons for. i dont think you can compare pushin buttons to playing a guitar or playin the drums. to play the drums you have to have rhythm and timing, to make dance "music" you only have to push keys and have an opinion. but each to thier own and if you choose to like something its up to you and nobody should try to change your opinion

[netweiser]

dont listen 2 rave so i wouldnt know ;)

[Neo 721]

Techno/synthasized music can be orginised into several catagories try not to get them mixed up.

[bennyboy2002]

rave is not crap at all :angry: its one of the best musics around in my opinion its doesnt just take a few buttons to make a track ya know u try and release atrack in the scene from ejay and see how far u get the ravers wud chew u up and spit u out. its the roky goff shit thats crap its so depressing atleast rave makes u wont to get up and have a gud dance rather than kill the person next to you iv been lisening to rave UPRISING for about 8yrs now and i never get sick of it with every different set there is a different world of massive tunes at one point it nearly rule the country of england now hardore is back for gud
BIG SHOUGHT OUT TO THE DINNINGTON AND UPRISING CREW :)

[mondaeo]

rave is not crap at all :angry: its one of the best musics around in my opinion its doesnt just take a few buttons to make a track ya know u try and release atrack in the scene from ejay and see how far u get the ravers wud chew u up and spit u out. its the roky goff shit thats crap its so depressing atleast rave makes u wont to get up and have a gud dance rather than kill the person next to you iv been lisening to rave UPRISING for about 8yrs now and i never get sick of it with every different set there is a different world of massive tunes at one point it nearly rule the country of england now hardore is back for gud
BIG SHOUGHT OUT TO THE DINNINGTON AND UPRISING CREW :)

i did say it was all personal opinion but due to this blokes attitude and discrimination against certain music genres i must say he has to learn to spell&#33; i mean &#39;shought&#39;? puh-lease&#33;&#33;&#33; and &#39;roky goff&#39;? do you actually spell like that or is it just &#39;hardcore net chat&#39; as youll probablys call it? and that &#39;roky goff&#39;(im assuming its rocky goth) doesnt make you want to kill the person next to you if its depressing it makes you want to kill yourself if its depressing&#33; if it were to make you kill the person next to you it would be psycopthic or sociopathic(i think but i could be wrong). so please listen up in english lessons and dont call &#39;rok&#39; shit when you like rave, the pathetic excuse for a music genre that only succeeds in amusing &#39;doped up&#39; or &#39;buzzin&#39; kiddies in rave clubs. thank you and good night

[fightthelaw]

^sry every1s not a supar spellar like you.

What is rave exactly, i like alot of electronic music atb,daft punk, utah saints, trance control, chicane ext... but what is rave? is that just any dance music or does it have a specific sound?

[Neo 721]

Talk about assuming that your taste reflects everyone.

[Person]

Originally posted by fightthelaw@8 October 2003 - 00:44
^sry every1s not a supar spellar like you.

What is rave exactly, i like alot of electronic music atb,daft punk, utah saints, trance control, chicane ext... but what is rave? is that just any dance music or does it have a specific sound?
Type in &#39;Happy Hardcore&#39; & download some of that it will answer your question.

[Adster]

look sliek most ppl think its crap

[safrole]

I&#39;ve been to a few raves in my time. The most interesting one I can recall was inside a large turn of the century warehouse in a capitol city. The sound I was following from set to set was not the typical 4-on-the-floor house, and it wasn&#39;t d&b, it was just totally underground breakbeat-mix turntablism. I remember these two guys in the bottom of the building with four turntables, they blew my mind because they we&#39;re literally playing their beat patterns and melodys with scratch techniques. They even imitated a 4-on-the-floor with some jazz breaks just to get a laugh-cheer from the crowd. I thought they were talented because they were great at what they were doing.
I don&#39;t know about &#39;rave&#39; music, though. That&#39;s vague. Maybe this debate is about mainstream vs underground..... or inexperienced people making lackluster tracks vs veteran dj&#39;s.

[Celerystalksme]

Originally posted by Adster@9 October 2003 - 11:27
look sliek most ppl think its crap
http://www.mcbriens.net/liam/img/smilies/yes.gif

don&#39;t forget the mindless bit :lol:

[Neo 721]

"Mindless" you could be right maybe i should get rid of that part.

[CrumbCat]

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[Gun-Ryo]

Hey fucker. you may not like it. but not all of us listen to nsync and metallica the black album. stop dissing shit. its popular so people like. its called freedom fuckface and stop being such a mindless dick. go download your country or whatever shit you like and stop dissing people cuz they dont worship you like a holy fucking jesus

[Celerystalksme]

Originally posted by Gun-Ryo@10 October 2003 - 11:18
Hey fucker. you may not like it. but not all of us listen to nsync and metallica the black album. stop dissing shit. its popular so people like. its called freedom fuckface and stop being such a mindless dick. go download your country or whatever shit you like and stop dissing people cuz they dont worship you like a holy fucking jesus
^what he said :rolleyes:

someone woke up with PMS today... :D

[just_for_shiz]

Originally posted by Celerystalksme+10 October 2003 - 02:19--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Celerystalksme @ 10 October 2003 - 02:19)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Gun&#045;Ryo@10 October 2003 - 11:18
Hey fucker. you may not like it. but not all of us listen to nsync and metallica the black album. stop dissing shit. its popular so people like. its called freedom fuckface and stop being such a mindless dick. go download your country or whatever shit you like and stop dissing people cuz they dont worship you like a holy fucking jesus
^what he said :rolleyes:

someone woke up with PMS today... :D [/b][/quote]
looks like it...chill out buddy or youll be banned before you know it

[Gun-Ryo]

Yeah sorry ... maybe just a little bit too much truth for a single person to handle :) but really i am sick and tired of people who dont give &#036;hit a chance and degrade it

[Neo 721]

BTW i dont like matalica they suck, but you should look at the results of the poll that was started and you will see what people think of Rave

[nanotek]

Originally posted by bennyboy2002@7 October 2003 - 21:15
rave is not crap at all :angry: its one of the best musics around in my opinion its doesnt just take a few buttons to make a track ya know u try and release atrack in the scene from ejay and see how far u get the ravers wud chew u up and spit u out. its the roky goff shit thats crap its so depressing atleast rave makes u wont to get up and have a gud dance rather than kill the person next to you iv been lisening to rave UPRISING for about 8yrs now and i never get sick of it with every different set there is a different world of massive tunes at one point it nearly rule the country of england now hardore is back for gud
BIG SHOUGHT OUT TO THE DINNINGTON AND UPRISING CREW :)
yeh oldskool rules B)

[Neo 721]

This post has went alot further than i expected, it shows you what a dramatic title does for you.

[infamousalbo101]

Originally posted by Neo 721@4 October 2003 - 22:24
sorry double post. :angry:
u didnt double post u lier :P

it doesnt say This post has been edited by Neo 721 on 10 October 2003 - 23:48

so that means u just posted then went back and posted agian Lier

[Gun-Ryo]

hey guess what? i like metallica too, wow thought we were only people who sat around listening to techno??? no were multi talented wow&#33; your brain didnt let u expand that far did it. that maybe you just cant enjoy music without lyrics because ur brain only lets you go that far

[Neo 721]

About the double post, after i made a mistake on the post i tried to stop it before it went through, but I obviosly didnt so it doubled when it was sent through. BTW about the Lyics I like music that doesent have Lyrics ever heard of the Shadows, their from the 70&#39;s i dought you have.

[Gun-Ryo]

Good Job Neo, You&#39;ve Proven Yourself A Complete Ignorant Moron, Now Stop Trying To Defend Yourself

[bennyboy2002]

mondeao where do u live u need to sort yur head out m8 who cares how people spell its not a fakin english lesson ya know or are mummy and daddy teachers and constantly putting u under pressure to perform :P
dont start threads about a music genre being crap and u wont get replies like this :angry:

[Will_518]

neo, i think you should stop covering up that double post thing; by my count you have posted 4 times in total just to say one thing. The more post you do the more stupid you&#39;ll appear to be.
hey i don&#39;t see why techno is crap, it&#39;s like a drug&#33;
[No spelling mistakes in this one&#33;]

[Neo 721]

Fine&#33;&#33; Iam sorry about the double post thing whats the big deal?
As the topic title how do you change it again?

[ForbiddenDNA]

Hell, no, raving requires alittle talent..

[Chame1eon]

Who cares how much talent it takes a long as it sounds good? and imo some of it does.

[morkgrey]

it is mindless crap alright...