A question to the ScT staff leader Feeling

[OlegL]

Hi, Feeling. I have a question. When will you do your next invite giveaway? I know that the ScT rules forbid invite offers on FST and on private tracker forums. But would I be allowed to request an invite to ScT in the invite request section of FST? I know that ScT people would have to donate money in order to buy an invite. As things stand now, I can't find anyone who would donate money to purchase an invite and then invite me. So, please do another invite giveaway. Maybe I'll be fortunate enough to receive an invite from you. Thanks for reading it and please answer the questions that I have here.

[andy316]

It wont happen.fact.

[n00bz0r]

rofl..nay.. this is not funny! :slap:

[Cabalo]

was there ever a giveaway at FST ? :mellow:

[OlegL]

was there ever a giveaway at FST ? :mellow:

Yes. But non-staffers would never be allowed to do giveaways here because the ScT rules specifically forbid them. Hopefully, after reading this thread, Feeling will agree to do another giveaway; otherwise, I will still have to look for someone who will agree to donate to ScT to purchase an invite for the purpose of inviting me.

[eram]

sounds strange that the staff would do giveaways but make rules against them.i doubt that there have been one.

[OlegL]

There was one: http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bittorrent-invite-giveaways-and-requests-90/t-giving-away-few-sct-invites-287860 . But a non-staffer would never be allowed to offer invites like that.

[deadalive1]

Not going to happen and not everyone has to donate to receive invites......

[OlegL]

Not going to happen and not everyone has to donate to receive invites......

But at least one invite giveaway has happened here in the past, so what makes you think it won't happen again in the future?.. And I even have less chances to be invited to ScT by someone who doesn't have to donate to receive invites than through someone who has to donate.

[susiserken]

As things stand now, I can't find anyone who would donate money to purchase an invite and then invite me.

Why should anyone donate 20 euros and give you an sct invite for free? :rolleyes:

[OlegL]

As things stand now, I can't find anyone who would donate money to purchase an invite and then invite me.

Why should anyone donate 20 euros and give you an sct invite for free? :rolleyes:

There is no reason why anyone who doesn't know me should do this. That's why I am hoping Feeling will do another invite giveaway here.

[k_ichigo]

Not going to happen and not everyone has to donate to receive invites......

But at least one invite giveaway has happened here in the past, so what makes you think it won't happen again in the future?.. And I even have less chances to be invited to ScT by someone who doesn't have to donate to receive invites than through someone who has to donate.

i believe the giveaways happened when sct used to give out invite/s to users (N.s if feeling is going to feel very generous again, but hey its worth a try i guess), and now they're not free, and im sure most ppl up their free inv, unless someone saved it for this long, and even if they did, i doubt they'll just give it to you after saving it for this long.

not being mean, just letting you know how things work since you seem fairly new.

:fst:

[OlegL]

Okay, I guess that means this thread is useless and Feeling will repeat the same thing that you just said if he sees this thread. So, please close it if it's useless.

[leech]

DjGrrr will probably finish the new design before Feeling does another giveaway. Both will never happen.

ps if you couldn't handle HDBits atmosphere SCT would not be a good community fit.

[k_ichigo]

not discouraging you but did you see the requirements he had for the giveaway, you needed to have a seedbox.... seedbox = money (monthly fee)


p.S you can close the thread or leave it open its up to u, but if you want to close it it's under thread tools.

[OlegL]

Yeah, I have a seedbox... I will leave this thread open and hopefully, Feeling will agree to do another giveaway after seeing it.

[megabyteme]

It doesn't sound like it will happen. The atmosphere may (or may not) be to your liking and the pay-for-invites thing doesn't set well with a lot of us.

However, I thought your question/request was a sincere one. Good luck, OlegL! :)

[hotshot6473]

If you have money for a seedbox then you can simply donate for somebody you trust so they can invite you. Why would Feeling change the current system just to make you a member.

As of right now FST is in the shitter in terms of reputation for pretty much all established torrent trackers.

The only options you really have is to pay for an invite or join Sceneaccess through What.cd or Waffles which is better or basically the same in every aspect as ScT.

[OlegL]

Good luck, OlegL! :)

Thanks.

[leech]

I'd do the transaction just like I've bought them through others and for others in the past. Everyone's doing it. But I'm not allowed to pm and the staff here would probably find this as selling invites. So do what everyone else does.

Go on IRC and find someone you know has SCT. Chat them up about SCT and how you hear it's awesome. Ask them to do the transaction for you, sending them money via paypal that they then transfer. Then enjoy the best torrent site online.

[1000possibleclaws]

The site has been hovering around capacity for awhile now. It hardly makes sense for any staff to give away invites when the system they have in place is working fine and there is no demand for more members.

[OlegL]

Go on IRC and find someone you know has SCT. Chat them up about SCT and how you hear it's awesome. Ask them to do the transaction for you, sending them money via paypal that they then transfer. Then enjoy the best torrent site online.

Well, I guess I will have to find someone who I will really trust if I want this to happen. Thank you, guys, for your responses.

[sez]

This thread sucks.At what point does it turn into sct vs THE MIGHTY GATEWAY TO THE SCENE?

[leech]

SCC is hardly a contender although it has made some big strides in the last year. Its the poor man's SCT, but SCT has no true peers.

[sez]

SCC is hardly a contender although it has made some big strides in the last year. Its the poor man's SCT, but SCT has no true peers.


i herd once that scc uploaded a torrent so fast that the scene didnt even have it so they stoles it and uploaded to ftps and then scc auto uploaded it again and still beat sct.
:lol:

[susiserken]

This thread sucks.At what point does it turn into sct vs THE MIGHTY GATEWAY TO THE SCENE?

i sort of agree with you, you get the same stuff on TL for example. Exept for porn and the great packs, but you get that elsewhere anyways. :cool:

[Rart]

As TSOL said, memberbase has been hovering near full for a very long time, and I don't think there were be any need to recruit in the near future.

In addition, its extremely unlikely that feeling would recruit here, more likely in some PU tracker forum.

[hotshot6473]

SCC is hardly a contender although it has made some big strides in the last year. Its the poor man's SCT, but SCT has no true peers.

Thats gotta be one the stupidest responses I have seen on this board in while. SCC has been ahead of SCT for a while now.

Granted we are talking a few seconds apart in some areas but in terms of keeping a ratio and content SCC is the king as of right now.

[Rart]

While you could debate over which is better, you can find SCC invites more easily at PU forums where they do recruitment.

[IdolEyes787]

Granted we are talking a few seconds apart in some areas but in terms of keeping a ratio and content SCC is the king as of right now.

They have a Monarchy for something like that ? Guess I should pay attention more ,I always assumed an Oligarchy.

[hotshot6473]

Granted we are talking a few seconds apart in some areas but in terms of keeping a ratio and content SCC is the king as of right now.

They have a Monarchy for something like that ? Guess I should pay attention more ,I always assumed an Oligarchy.

http://www.answers.com/topic/king

2nd definition

[Duckater]

Why is the pre time to general people so important, why is it so important to be on 1337 trackers why is it important to boast about them once on them?

[hotshot6473]

The people that boast that they are on them are idiots.

I generally won't be active on a 0day site unless it has a fast pre time. Why be a member of a site that just steals shit from the other sites that have fast pre times. Why not cut out the middle man.

Unless a site has great user created content or specializes in a certain area then it should be trying to compete with the best. If they don't have access then they should shutdown if they are a 0day site because there really isn't any need for them.

[Duckater]

The people that boast that they are on them are idiots.

I generally won't be active on a 0day site unless it has a fast pre time. Why be a member of a site that just steals shit from the other sites that have fast pre times. Why not cut out the middle man.

Unless a site has great user created content or specializes in a certain area then it should be trying to compete with the best. If they don't have access then they should shutdown if they are a 0day site because there really isn't any need for them.

I agree about the ones that boast being idiots :)
The other sites to me aint stealing it, torrenting is about sharing, if they are stealing aint you?
If all the slower so called 0day sites where to shut down where would all there members go that use them sites?

So basically only 1 part of that I agree with :)

[IdolEyes787]

They have a Monarchy for something like that ? Guess I should pay attention more ,I always assumed an Oligarchy.

http://www.answers.com/topic/king

2nd definition

So SCC is like Justin Timberlake when he was with 'N Sync? :unsure:

[hotshot6473]

http://www.answers.com/topic/king

2nd definition

So SCC is like Justin Timberlake when he was with 'N Sync? :unsure:

Actually yes that is a good example



The people that boast that they are on them are idiots.

I generally won't be active on a 0day site unless it has a fast pre time. Why be a member of a site that just steals shit from the other sites that have fast pre times. Why not cut out the middle man.

Unless a site has great user created content or specializes in a certain area then it should be trying to compete with the best. If they don't have access then they should shutdown if they are a 0day site because there really isn't any need for them.

I agree about the ones that boast being idiots :)
The other sites to me aint stealing it, torrenting is about sharing, if they are stealing aint you?
If all the slower so called 0day sites where to shut down where would all there members go that use them sites?

So basically only 1 part of that I agree with :)

Can you tell me what the point is of having dupe files being released everywhere at a slow pace when sites that can release things fast already exist? I see it as a complete waist of bandwidth and they are really only probably looking to get donations or recognition when they have a shitty site compared to others

[KushBlow]

http://www.answers.com/topic/king

2nd definition

So SCC is like Justin Timberlake when he was with 'N Sync? :unsure:

Eccentric example....

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z156/donutmikey/Funny/facepalm_implied.jpg

[Intr4ns1t]

Can you tell me what the point is of having dupe files being released everywhere at a slow pace when sites that can release things fast already exist?

Because not everyone can get into those high speed sites, as evidenced by user limits.

[hotshot6473]

Can you tell me what the point is of having dupe files being released everywhere at a slow pace when sites that can release things fast already exist?

Because not everyone can get into those high speed sites, as evidenced by user limits.

Everybody on What.cd and Waffles can get on SCC. Everyone on HDBits can get on GFT. It really isnt that hard to get into TL or RevTT or PTM which don't have the best pre times but get everything in a respectable amount of time.

[Duckater]

[QUOTE=IdolEyes787;3294037]


Can you tell me what the point is of having dupe files being released everywhere at a slow pace when sites that can release things fast already exist? I see it as a complete waist of bandwidth and they are really only probably looking to get donations or recognition when they have a shitty site compared to others

OK so all the members they have who cannot get onto these 1337 sites and enjoy the communities on those sites where they ment to go to get there stuff?
I think there are too many trackers about these days but saying they should all close is taking it way to far :)
Imho some of the smaller trackers have a far better community spirit than the 1337 trackers any way.

So over all your statement is self centered :shit:

[hotshot6473]

OK so all the members they have who cannot get onto these 1337 sites and enjoy the communities on those sites where they ment to go to get there stuff?
I think there are too many trackers about these days but saying they should all close is taking it way to far :)
Imho some of the smaller trackers have a far better community spirit than the 1337 trackers any way.

So over all your statement is self centered :shit:

Lol its not self-centered. I am not even talking about myself?

I just don't see the need for them when there are sites like SCC that are not that hard to get on if you are a good person and give an effort on sites that will give you access to them.

We aren't talking about communities here. That has nothing to do with the sites content.

[Intr4ns1t]

Because not everyone can get into those high speed sites, as evidenced by user limits.

Everybody on What.cd and Waffles can get on SCC. Everyone on HDBits can get on GFT. It really isnt that hard to get into TL or RevTT or PTM which don't have the best pre times but get everything in a respectable amount of time.

Again, not everyone can get into those sites either. The truth is, most of the more desirable sites allow entry based on your merits( the level of skill to be determined by your inviter) and if you are at the bottom of the ladder, you must demonstrate an avid nature toward BT in general to get most people to "risk" their invite privileges due to the need for proof that someone will be a good user.

It's a vicious cycle that has been a major detriment to the entirety of BT imho. If you don't feel the desire to download massive amounts of data you don't care about, you are much less likely to be able to get the trust necessary to gain entry, barring the social aspect that is the only recourse for the folks with no money for seedboxes or invites.

[hotshot6473]

Everybody on What.cd and Waffles can get on SCC. Everyone on HDBits can get on GFT. It really isnt that hard to get into TL or RevTT or PTM which don't have the best pre times but get everything in a respectable amount of time.

Again, not everyone can get into those sites either. The truth is, most of the more desirable sites allow entry based on your merits( the level of skill to be determined by your inviter) and if you are at the bottom of the ladder, you must demonstrate an avid nature toward BT in general to get most people to "risk" their invite privileges due to the need for proof that someone will be a good user.

It's a vicious cycle that has been a major detriment to the entirety of BT imho. If you don't feel the desire to download massive amounts of data you don't care about, you are much less likely to be able to get the trust necessary to gain entry, barring the social aspect that is the only recourse for the folks with no money for seedboxes or invites.

On FST right now I don't think many people trust other people anymore which I completely understand. It really isn't like it used to be. Other sites like TPS and TR however have really great communities that will be a little more trusting if you are active there and show them that you are worthy.

[Duckater]

Lol its not self-centered. I am not even talking about myself?

I just don't see the need for them when there are sites like SCC that are not that hard to get on if you are a good person and give an effort on sites that will give you access to them.

We aren't talking about communities here. That has nothing to do with the sites content.

Sorry self centered was bit OTT

Yes people may be able get into scc, tl, rev, ipt etc quiet easily but some of the people on the sites you are on about want to be on them sites for the community and dont want to trawl around a lot of sites for torrents so request them at the smaller lesser known ones.
Plus who are we to tell people that they should get onto those trackers?
Also with the amount of small trackers about these days I dont think getting rid of them all is gonna be possible as the trackers you mentioned could not cope with all the people on them.

By the way what size/type of site would you say should go.
Be involved with a smaller site I am wondering if it fits into the catagory of ones you would close?

[kallieb]

Imho some of the smaller trackers have a far better community spirit than the 1337 trackers any way.

Absolutely 100% true on that statement.The sites I've dropped over the years, are the very same sites that most of the bittards are just drooling over to get in and it makes no sense.

Pre-times.. c'mon you guys. Who gives a rats turd whether you get a rip 5 mins after release or 6. Does that make a site good??? Seriously. How often do we really care, or need, to have something on the second. Death and birth are about the only things where precise time matters. The rest is discretionary ;)

[Intr4ns1t]

Again, not everyone can get into those sites either. The truth is, most of the more desirable sites allow entry based on your merits( the level of skill to be determined by your inviter) and if you are at the bottom of the ladder, you must demonstrate an avid nature toward BT in general to get most people to "risk" their invite privileges due to the need for proof that someone will be a good user.

It's a vicious cycle that has been a major detriment to the entirety of BT imho. If you don't feel the desire to download massive amounts of data you don't care about, you are much less likely to be able to get the trust necessary to gain entry, barring the social aspect that is the only recourse for the folks with no money for seedboxes or invites.

On FST right now I don't think many people trust other people anymore which I completely understand. It really isn't like it used to be. Other sites like TPS and TR however have really great communities that will be a little more trusting if you are active there and show them that you are worthy.

I am speaking beyond FST tbh. I agree about TPS and TR being nice places, but they still encourage that meritorious system of trust.

Wouldn't it be lovely if we could just say "hey, I'd like to invite you to www.insert-random-site-here.com" instead of "Hey, I'd like to invite you to www.insert-random-site-here.com, BUT, I need some proof that you are a great user and will reflect positively on me with your activity on that site, and I also need proof that you aren't a trader/cheater/dupe/seller or disliked by anyone who can put the brakes on my personal bt career."

[Duckater]

You hit the nail on the head with the end of your statement my personal bt career. to many members of trackers see it almost like a career when to me it is a hobby, there are far more import things in llife than BT :)

[hotshot6473]

On FST right now I don't think many people trust other people anymore which I completely understand. It really isn't like it used to be. Other sites like TPS and TR however have really great communities that will be a little more trusting if you are active there and show them that you are worthy.

I am speaking beyond FST tbh. I agree about TPS and TR being nice places, but they still encourage that meritorious system of trust.

Wouldn't it be lovely if we could just say "hey, I'd like to invite you to www.insert-random-site-here.com" instead of "Hey, I'd like to invite you to www.insert-random-site-here.com (http://www.insert-random-site-here.com), BUT, I need some proof that you are a great user and will reflect positively on me with your activity on that site, and I also need proof that you aren't a trader/cheater/dupe/seller or disliked by anyone who can put the brakes on my personal bt career."

That would be nice but that is not reality. It is really a simple ladder system. You have to climb each step along the way in order to get where you want to be.

I learned that like most other people. I requested sites that I "wanted" but knew it was going to be a long shot and guess what I didn't get them. I got them from making a few good friends and making sure that I was a good user on sites so I would have access to their invite forums.

[kallieb]

^^ I wish it were that simple, seriously, but I've been stung in an invite tree before because of bad choices by someone within the chain, and if the site has a scorched earth policy in relation to invites, I will definitely be cautious. Not because my membership is all precious and means the world to me. I have perspective on this issue; but I have enough respect for others that may be affected by my choices, and in that regard I'm not ready to hand out invites with a randomness of candy at Halloween.

[Intr4ns1t]

That would be nice but that is not reality. It is really a simple ladder system. You have to climb each step along the way in order to get where you want to be.

And that was my original point, regarding why the smaller, slower sites need to exist. So the guys at the bottom of the ladder can start somewhere. ;)

[Duckater]

Before I had several issues and was away from the BT scene for about 9 months I was a member of a few of the so called 1337 sites and was on them b4 I even joined here or any sort of site like here, in fact at the time I was mostly using the sites that you are saying should be closed down, lot of the members on those so called sites you want to close down dont use places like here probably only a member of a few of those sorts of trackers and do not require anything else so why should they close?

[OlegL]

Okay, please close this thread because I was able to get what I wanted! It looks like I can't close it myself using the thread tools, even though someone here said the "thread tools" gives you the option of closing a thread.

[hotshot6473]

You should be starting at either IPT, TL, PTM, RevTT or TB. That is plenty to choose from and all easily got.

Next start being active at either FST, TPS or TR and make friends/ good posts.

Next use proofs from those starter sites for something like What.cd and Waffles.

Finally build up your ratio on the sites by uploading 0day and new music in order to be promoted to poweruser. Go to the poweruser forums to take advantage of all they have to offer.

[OlegL]

There is no point in keeping this thread open because I was invited to ScT after requesting an invite on a private tracker forum. Please close it.

[kallieb]

Sorry m8, the balloon appears to have left the ground in so far as this thread. Interesting convo though, you have to grant it that

Congrats on your invite. Do post back in a few months time and tell us if it's all what you thought it was, and if you really are happy with what you found. Cheers :)

[Duckater]

You should be starting at either IPT, TL, PTM, RevTT or TB. That is plenty to choose from and all easily got.

Next start being active at either FST, TPS or TR and make friends/ good posts.

Next use proofs from those starter sites for something like What.cd and Waffles.

Finally build up your ratio on the sites by uploading 0day and new music in order to be promoted to poweruser. Go to the poweruser forums to take advantage of all they have to offer.

1: You saying we should close down our tracker that is about 75% 0day stuff?

2: Do you realise how many trackers there are about that have over say 4,000 members?
I will admit some of those members will be on a few of the smaller trackers.

I also feel you have not looked at the smaller/lesser known trackers and if you did you would realise how much need there is for them :)

[OlegL]

Congrats on your invite. Do post back in a few months time and tell us if it's all what you thought it was, and if you really are happy with what you found. Cheers :)

Thanks. Yes, in a few months, I will describe my experience there.

[hotshot6473]

You should be starting at either IPT, TL, PTM, RevTT or TB. That is plenty to choose from and all easily got.

Next start being active at either FST, TPS or TR and make friends/ good posts.

Next use proofs from those starter sites for something like What.cd and Waffles.

Finally build up your ratio on the sites by uploading 0day and new music in order to be promoted to poweruser. Go to the poweruser forums to take advantage of all they have to offer.

1: You saying we should close down our tracker that is about 75% 0day stuff?

2: Do you realise how many trackers there are about that have over say 4,000 members?
I will admit some of those members will be on a few of the smaller trackers.

I also feel you have not looked at the smaller/lesser known trackers and if you did you would realise how much need there is for them :)

Well I don;t know anything about your tracker. But if it is a 0day site and not really anything else then I don;t see the point as said before. If it is more specialized and has a focus then I am all for it. A site with a purpose and focus is somthing I always respect because certain people will fit in there and possibly create a good community.

However if it is a site trying to be another TL or SCT with no access to fast pre times then yes I think it should just go away.

[kallieb]

pre-times.. pre-times... i want to slit my wrists.

What is the big deal, seriously. Can someone answer that. I ask not to be a jerk. I have never quite figured out the appeal of pre-times and why it matters that one site is a minute faster than another ergo its a better site.

sorry to hijack the thread, but I've heard pre-times lauded so many times, and I just don't get it???

[Duckater]

25% is mma with over a 1000 snatches on aff's release of ufc 103
Our pre times aint bad and no we not get a lot of our stuff from other torrent sites
But I do think you should at least visit some of the smaller sites and see the community spirit they have as well as some of the non scene stuff they upload even if it is only a small percentage of there uploads before making comments that they should be closed as no need, when there is a real need which by visiting a few and spending some time you will see what I mean :)

No offence ment m8 but how can you comment that sites that are nearly all 0day stuff should close when ones I go on are more of a community (and that applies to 90+%) of the smaller lesser known site. There is a real need for them on that fromt :)

[hotshot6473]

pre-times.. pre-times... i want to slit my wrists.

What is the big deal, seriously. Can someone answer that. I ask not to be a jerk. I have never quite figured out the appeal of pre-times and why it matters that one site is a minute faster than another ergo its a better site.

sorry to hijack the thread, but I've heard pre-times lauded so many times, and I just don't get it???

Well often with good pre-times comes the fact that the site is hooked up to an auto. If it is on an auto it will miss very little 0day content and you will have access to everything as it is released. If a site is generally not on an auto it is prone to miss some things and it is just generally a bunch of uploaders grabbing things over at other sites and putting them up on their own whenever they feel like it.

[Duckater]

pre-times.. pre-times... i want to slit my wrists.

What is the big deal, seriously. Can someone answer that. I ask not to be a jerk. I have never quite figured out the appeal of pre-times and why it matters that one site is a minute faster than another ergo its a better site.

sorry to hijack the thread, but I've heard pre-times lauded so many times, and I just don't get it???

I agree m8, what I find worse is the amount of people who wants be on 1337 trackers or boast they are on 1337 trackers. What gets to me more than anything tho are the ones that say they want a xxx 1337 tracker for the community.
What a crock of :shit: that is I mean how can they know what a community is to there liking before going on the site. Also to me the lesser known non 1337 sites I go on have far superiour communities than most the trackers mentioned in this thread so far.

And maybe we should start a thread 1337 tracker communities vs. lesser known tracker communities

[eldiesel]

If you have money for a seedbox then you can simply donate for somebody you trust so they can invite you. Why would Feeling change the current system just to make you a member.

As of right now FST is in the shitter in terms of reputation for pretty much all established torrent trackers.

The only options you really have is to pay for an invite or join Sceneaccess through What.cd or Waffles which is better or basically the same in every aspect as ScT.

exactly.

Good Luck

[IdolEyes787]

[QUOTE=Intr4ns1t;3294060]

Other sites like TPS and TR however have really great communities that will be a little more trusting if you are active there and show them that you are worthy.

Worthy of what ? I hope that you are talking about trust because otherwise you sound a little silly.


pre-times.. pre-times... i want to slit my wrists.

What is the big deal, seriously. Can someone answer that. I ask not to be a jerk. I have never quite figured out the appeal of pre-times and why it matters that one site is a minute faster than another ergo its a better site.

sorry to hijack the thread, but I've heard pre-times lauded so many times, and I just don't get it???

I agree the torrent contains the same thing whether you have access to it today ,tomorrow or a week from now.Nothing lost nothing altered ,it isn't the least bit better for being available a little sooner.
In fact if anything the delay gives you a better chance to determine if you really want to view/play it.

[n00bz0r]

And maybe we should start a thread 1337 tracker communities vs. lesser known tracker communities
that would result in a surge in solicited PMs, and crappy requests.
that'd be fun..:lol:

[Benjamin]

pre-times.. pre-times... i want to slit my wrists.

What is the big deal, seriously. Can someone answer that. I ask not to be a jerk. I have never quite figured out the appeal of pre-times and why it matters that one site is a minute faster than another ergo its a better site.

sorry to hijack the thread, but I've heard pre-times lauded so many times, and I just don't get it???

So I can watch entourage quicker.

[KushBlow]

pre-times.. pre-times... i want to slit my wrists.

What is the big deal, seriously. Can someone answer that. I ask not to be a jerk. I have never quite figured out the appeal of pre-times and why it matters that one site is a minute faster than another ergo its a better site.

sorry to hijack the thread, but I've heard pre-times lauded so many times, and I just don't get it???

So I can watch entourage quicker.

I was just gonna post that! :D

We entourage fanboys need it right away. It's like a routine before bed on Sundays. In this case a slower pre-time would interfere with my sleep routine, which leads to subsequent routine breakdowns.

I have exaggerated a bit.

[sear]

There's also the issue of security. If all the little trackers closed and the community was left with three or four behemoth money making machines then it just makes everyone that much more vulnerable. These sites are already in the cross-hairs so having them as the only sites would be a mistake. The more sites there are then the more time an effort it takes for the MPAA and RIAA to shut them down. There's safety in numbers.

There's also the fact that not everyone wants to be on some massive money making e-penis site that only cares about pre-times. If the smaller sites have members than there's a need for them. Simple really.

[KushBlow]

Also, could you name at least one of these e-peen sites that only care about pres? I was under the impression that they were community or security oriented.

[sez]

pre-times.. pre-times... i want to slit my wrists.

What is the big deal, seriously. Can someone answer that. I ask not to be a jerk. I have never quite figured out the appeal of pre-times and why it matters that one site is a minute faster than another ergo its a better site.

sorry to hijack the thread, but I've heard pre-times lauded so many times, and I just don't get it???

pre-times is all that matters for a scene tracker just like it does for the scene as a whole and thats exactly how it should be so I agree with whoever said those who steal torrents should gtfo.Even the names should sell it for you 0-day,0-sec etc.Why it should matter isn't relevant just know its a culture thing.

[sear]

Also, could you name at least one of these e-peen sites that only care about pres? I was under the impression that they were community or security oriented.

I'd rather not because I don't wish to offend, but I'd say in my experience you're wrong about the second part of your statement. Just to be clear I wasn't talking about e-peen in the 'levels' FST sense as this generally has nothing to do with the sites themselves rather people's perceptions of them. I meant it in the more traditional ego-driven sense of the expression.

[hotshot6473]

Also, could you name at least one of these e-peen sites that only care about pres? I was under the impression that they were community or security oriented.

I'd rather not because I don't wish to offend, but I'd say in my experience you're wrong about the second part of your statement. Just to be clear I wasn't talking about e-peen in the 'levels' FST sense as this generally has nothing to do with the sites themselves rather people's perceptions of them. I meant it in the more traditional ego-driven sense of the expression.

While I think the e-peen attitude aspect of certain sites is not really welcomed, I have to give them props in what they can do. If they run one of the best 0day torrent sites in the world in terms of pre-time and content selection then they can act however they want.

They provide a service that only very few other sites in the world can offer which makes them special. I completely understand why people want them and why people don't want to risk losing them by inviting a stranger from a message board.

[sear]

Of course, couldn't agree more. It's just not for everyone that's all.

[killercam101]

This thread belongs with the piles of letters for santa ..congrats kid you've been good this year but telling santa if you don't give me a present you'll go out and buy it is B A N A N A S.I hope in the end you do end up paying more than 20 euros for an invite. I'll thank you now for paying the server cost*.

Pre-times only matter to those looking to buffer accounts and grab the "swarm" or if you still use eztv.The tv show will be there tomorrow ...and probably the week after. Yet this pre-time competition has been good in terms of getting more trackers to step up the quality of releases and times considering at one time ScT was at the top now people can easily name 3-4 trackers with similar speeds.

ScT is a good tracker but lets not get carried away.

[lisabritpop]

Sorry m8, the balloon appears to have left the ground in so far as this thread. Interesting convo though, you have to grant it that

Congrats on your invite. Do post back in a few months time and tell us if it's all what you thought it was, and if you really are happy with what you found. Cheers :)

many ppls here seems stray off the topic :(

hey m8...if you've got a invite there...Please accept my sincere congratulation....if not....try your best to make a sincere friend in SCT.Good luck

[Polarbear]

I hope he doesn't get banned, come back to FST and then have a HDBits and ScT staff rant syndrom.

[Disme]

I agree with the pré-time being a bit silly.

Many of the people saying pré-times are important are living in parts of the world where you have a massive time-difference (at least I do).

Now let's take a show like weeds or entourage ... I like to watch those, but must say I will not stay awake until 4 am just to watch the show the minute it appears on the fastest 0-day-trackers.

What do those 0-day/pré-time freaks do when they have to go to a party or so ... they stay at home because they have to watch the newest entourage or so???

[hotshot6473]

What do those 0-day/pré-time freaks do when they have to go to a party or so ... they stay at home because they have to watch the newest entourage or so???

Who goes to a party on Sunday night? :huh:

[Polarbear]

I agree with the pré-time being a bit silly.

What do those 0-day/pré-time freaks do when they have to go to a party or so ... they stay at home because they have to watch the newest entourage or so???

Why goes to a party on Sunday night? :huh:

Do pretime wankers and tracker racers go to parties at all? :huh:

[Benjamin]

What do those 0-day/pré-time freaks do when they have to go to a party or so ... they stay at home because they have to watch the newest entourage or so???

Here in America people stay home and watch HBO on sunday night.

[IdolEyes787]

What do those 0-day/pré-time freaks do when they have to go to a party or so ... they stay at home because they have to watch the newest entourage or so???

Here in America young males under the age of 22 stay home and watch HBO on Sunday night.

Edited for accuracy.

[hotshot6473]

Well I assume most people around the world do not go out and party on Sunday nights or probably even some week nights. I would kill myself if I had to go to work with a hangover.

[IdolEyes787]

Take drugs.:idunno:

[Benjamin]

Come on broski, I have class on Mondays, I have to stay fresh.

[OlegL]

I hope he doesn't get banned, come back to FST and then have a HDBits and ScT staff rant syndrom.

Let's think about positive things, instead of something negative. :)

[IdolEyes787]

Come on broski, I have class on Mondays, I have to stay fresh.

Take other drugs.

Brown nose.:happy:

[Disme]

Well I assume most people around the world do not go out and party on Sunday nights or probably even some week nights. I would kill myself if I had to go to work with a hangover.

You're not getting my point ... it's not about a sunday or a saturday ... it doesn't matter what day it is.

It doesn't have to be limited to partying either... I was actually asking if the people that value the pré-times so much, would for example deny or cancel some kind of party or family-dinner/celebration because their tv-show is about to be pré'd that night.

I have difficulties understanding people that would do that.

I meant to find the reasoning behind the fact you value a movie or a tv-show that much that you HAVE to watch it the minute it get's pré'd.

Bottom line is I have no problem waiting a day or even a week to watch something since it is just entertainment ...

[The_Martinator]

Well I assume most people around the world do not go out and party on Sunday nights or probably even some week nights. I would kill myself if I had to go to work with a hangover.

You're not getting my point ... it's not about a sunday or a saturday ... it doesn't matter what day it is.

It doesn't have to be limited to partying either... I was actually asking if the people that value the pré-times so much, would for example deny or cancel some kind of party or family-dinner/celebration because their tv-show is about to be pré'd that night.

I have difficulties understanding people that would do that.

I meant to find the reasoning behind the fact you value a movie or a tv-show that much that you HAVE to watch it the minute it get's pré'd.

Bottom line is I have no problem waiting a day or even a week to watch something since it is just entertainment ...

I thought about that too. Since I don't care about pre times, I always wonder to what extent other people do. But I think the example made by Disme is an extreme and I can't imagine a lot of people doing it.

[sez]

Well I assume most people around the world do not go out and party on Sunday nights or probably even some week nights. I would kill myself if I had to go to work with a hangover.

You're not getting my point ... it's not about a sunday or a saturday ... it doesn't matter what day it is.

It doesn't have to be limited to partying either... I was actually asking if the people that value the pré-times so much, would for example deny or cancel some kind of party or family-dinner/celebration because their tv-show is about to be pré'd that night.

I have difficulties understanding people that would do that.

I meant to find the reasoning behind the fact you value a movie or a tv-show that much that you HAVE to watch it the minute it get's pré'd.

Bottom line is I have no problem waiting a day or even a week to watch something since it is just entertainment ...

Couldn't help it though I must admit it was kinda cute :lol:
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/1426/cimg0153so2.jpg
back on topic.I agree that pre-time whores need some sort of psych evaluation so as to determine which ones are genuinely mental and which ones are whores for genuine reasons(read slow it'll make sense).If you upload to RS then trust me pre-times are everything,the slower you are the less points you'll likely accumulate but if you are fast,you'll max out your daily point allocation in as little as two hours.So yeah some people do have reasons ;)

[Disme]

Couldn't help it though I must admit it was kinda cute :lol:

You're not first who 'confronts' me with this :lol:

Did you ever wonder how much time it took me to post that?

My daughter makes drawings and/or paintings all the time so I just had to pick one out of the paper-basket, put my name and a sentence on it, I took a picture of it and upped it on RS...

Took me about 1 minute to get something that people pay $ 20 nowadays :happy:

[deadalive1]

I thought about that too. Since I don't care about pre times, I always wonder to what extent other people do. But
It's about the e-peen, don't you know that it gives people a rise that they got a file 1 second faster than the next person or site? :whistling

[hotshot6473]

I thought about that too. Since I don't care about pre times, I always wonder to what extent other people do. But
It's about the e-peen, don't you know that it gives people a rise that they got a file 1 second faster than the next person or site? :whistling

Its not about e-peen for most people. I won't be active on a site that does not do a quality job getting out releases.

[Benjamin]

Well I assume most people around the world do not go out and party on Sunday nights or probably even some week nights. I would kill myself if I had to go to work with a hangover.

You're not getting my point ... it's not about a sunday or a saturday ... it doesn't matter what day it is.

It doesn't have to be limited to partying either... I was actually asking if the people that value the pré-times so much, would for example deny or cancel some kind of party or family-dinner/celebration because their tv-show is about to be pré'd that night.

I have difficulties understanding people that would do that.

I meant to find the reasoning behind the fact you value a movie or a tv-show that much that you HAVE to watch it the minute it get's pré'd.

Bottom line is I have no problem waiting a day or even a week to watch something since it is just entertainment ...

You seriously know anyone who does this? That's some OCD shit. That's why bittorent is useful because you don't always have to be there when your favorite show airs, you can always download it later. I'm just saying when I am not busy, I like to get my show quick after it releases.

[deadalive1]

That is a copout...

That's like when a guy says to a girl "it isn't you, it's me" or when someone says it isn't about the money (when in fact it is almost always about the money).

[hotshot6473]

That is a copout...

That's like when a guy says to a girl "it isn't you, it's me" or when someone says it isn't about the money (when in fact it is almost always about the money).

Lol why is it a copout. I want my stuff as fast as possible with really no interruptions when it comes to 0day. It's really not that hard to understand. For a 0day there are really only 2 things go into its quality. Speed and amount of content uploaded. If a site can't compete in these two areas and doesn't have any other purpose then ti is simply not a quality site.

I don't sit around all day and wait for shit to be released but if I am online and I see something get pre'd on a irc channel and a site isn't getting it and others are then I just find that frustrating. Especially with TV shows and 360 games.

[KushBlow]

Yeah I get why some of you don't care about pretimes, but no need to call other people pre whores because of it.

Example: I wait for Entourage to pre on Sundays because I don't have HBO. The pre is usually around 12am. Note that it's a Sunday and I have class on Monday. In this case I search for a good pre time. The other sites that pre it an hour or 2 late would be too much for me as I get up at 7. And with a good pre I watch it until around 1am, afterwards going to sleep.

Could I watch it on Monday the next day? Yes I could but why wait for something that's readily available. Do I go to parties, or hang out with people? No, because it's a Sunday evening and I've partied too hard on Saturday.

So in my dilemma the pre-time does matter. Otherwise I don't give a shit.

[Tokeman]

Pretimes dont matter much to me, except for the same example as above. But for me, as long as its within an hour, no sweat.

I have noticed a few releases that are not 'scene', but always make it onto my 0 day trackers since there doesn't seem to be a 'scene' capper, sometimes taking days to be up'd, forcing me to find the source to get a same day release. But if it wasn't a 24+ hour delay, I wouldn't have cared.

[IdolEyes787]

Yeah I get why some of you don't care about pretimes, but no need to call other people pre whores because of it.

Example: I wait for Entourage to pre on Sundays because I don't have HBO. The pre is usually around 12am. Note that it's a Sunday and I have class on Monday. In this case I search for a good pre time. The other sites that pre it an hour or 2 late would be too much for me as I get up at 7. And with a good pre I watch it until around 1am, afterwards going to sleep.

Could I watch it on Monday the next day? Yes I could but why wait for something that's readily available. Do I go to parties, or hang out with people? No, because it's a Sunday evening and I've partied too hard on Saturday.

So in my dilemma the pre-time does matter. Otherwise I don't give a shit.

Face facts God does not want people to watch Entourage.After all he is a wise and benevolent deity.
:angel1:

[Cabalo]

here goes my very important contribution to the topic as it goes now:

1. yes, i do go out sometimes on sunday. for the record, only a couple of places are open at night, and that's where most of the "night" people meets, especially strippers, whose clubs are always closed at sunday and have nowhere to go party on their day off. yes, sunday is great fun.

2. i never ever used a IRC channel to see if something got pre'd . I've quit IRC since 1995, when i was a 19 year old boy, because even back then i noticed it was ruining my social life. so i uninstalled the good old mirc.

3. pre-times mean shit to me. if i was a no lifer, and spent all my day in front of my home computer, maybe, and only maybe, it could assume some importance to me. The way i do it now, i go check the torrent sites a maximum of 2 times per day,usually going there only once to put to download what interests me and was released during the previous day.

4. glad to see you around here, Disme, the belgian !

[KushBlow]

Yeah I get why some of you don't care about pretimes, but no need to call other people pre whores because of it.

Example: I wait for Entourage to pre on Sundays because I don't have HBO. The pre is usually around 12am. Note that it's a Sunday and I have class on Monday. In this case I search for a good pre time. The other sites that pre it an hour or 2 late would be too much for me as I get up at 7. And with a good pre I watch it until around 1am, afterwards going to sleep.

Could I watch it on Monday the next day? Yes I could but why wait for something that's readily available. Do I go to parties, or hang out with people? No, because it's a Sunday evening and I've partied too hard on Saturday.

So in my dilemma the pre-time does matter. Otherwise I don't give a shit.

Face facts God does not want people to watch Entourage.After all he is a wise and benevolent deity.
:angel1:

But I still manage to watch it, just not without the pretime conflict.

And you getting religous, interesting :). I just hope it doesn't transorm to the likes of this;

http://www.thepeoplescube.com/images/rallies/OMS_Shizlam.jpg

[IdolEyes787]

God informs me that She doesn't like to be mocked.

[Night0wl]

Yeah I get why some of you don't care about pretimes, but no need to call other people pre whores because of it.

Example: I wait for Entourage to pre on Sundays because I don't have HBO. The pre is usually around 12am. Note that it's a Sunday and I have class on Monday. In this case I search for a good pre time. The other sites that pre it an hour or 2 late would be too much for me as I get up at 7. And with a good pre I watch it until around 1am, afterwards going to sleep.

Could I watch it on Monday the next day? Yes I could but why wait for something that's readily available. Do I go to parties, or hang out with people? No, because it's a Sunday evening and I've partied too hard on Saturday.

So in my dilemma the pre-time does matter. Otherwise I don't give a shit.

This! Different shows, a little later and on weeknights, but ultimately the same dilemma. I suffer from insomnia.

[Intr4ns1t]

What do those 0-day/pré-time freaks do when they have to go to a party or so ... they stay at home because they have to watch the newest entourage or so???

Who goes to a party on Sunday night? :huh:

I went a house party on a sunday not too long ago. There were only about 300 people there...

[deadalive1]

Who goes to a party on Sunday night? :huh:

I went a house party on a sunday not too long ago. There were only about 300 people there...
Just a little gathering of friends huh.....:P

[Intr4ns1t]

I went a house party on a sunday not too long ago. There were only about 300 people there...
Just a little gathering of friends huh.....:P

I can assure you, it was very serious like and studious, yeah, studious...:whistling

[Benjamin]

here goes my very important contribution to the topic as it goes now:

1. yes, i do go out sometimes on sunday. for the record, only a couple of places are open at night, and that's where most of the "night" people meets, especially strippers, whose clubs are always closed at sunday and have nowhere to go party on their day off. yes, sunday is great fun.

2. i never ever used a IRC channel to see if something got pre'd . I've quit IRC since 1995, when i was a 19 year old boy, because even back then i noticed it was ruining my social life. so i uninstalled the good old mirc.

3. pre-times mean shit to me. if i was a no lifer, and spent all my day in front of my home computer, maybe, and only maybe, it could assume some importance to me. The way i do it now, i go check the torrent sites a maximum of 2 times per day,usually going there only once to put to download what interests me and was released during the previous day.

4. glad to see you around here, Disme, the belgian !

You are such a keyboard jockey. I can tell by the way you post, you are glorifying yourself while putting down other people, cool guys don't do that. You're just showing everyone what a miserable life you have.

[va3156]

lol this season of Entourage sucks anyway :dry: