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nanotek
10-06-2003, 05:08 PM
ok i have read lamsey's guide to ram but i am still clueless !maybe i missed something but can anyone answer these questions please ?

i want to get some more ram ,i can upgrade to 1 gb so i am looking for a 512 mb stick ,the stick that i have is 512mb pc 133 (ddram) so do i have to get a stick that is the same or could i possibly get a pc233 or even higher stick ?

would this work?

Kunal
10-06-2003, 05:12 PM
No you cant get any other RAM types except PC133 if you want 1GB of RAM.

nanotek
10-06-2003, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by Kunal@6 October 2003 - 17:12
No you cant get any other RAM types except PC133 if you want 1GB of RAM.
why is that ? a friend of mine installed a stick pc233 512 mb in my pc for testing purposes and the 2 sticks worked togeather ,did not seem to get any probs between the 2 dif sticks , and it said i had 1 gb of ram

Benno
10-06-2003, 05:41 PM
I've never heard of 133mhz ddr ram, dont you mean sd ram?
I only know of ddr200,266,333,400

You can run to different sticks but chances are that it will slow down everything if they have different speed.



No you cant get any other RAM types except PC133 if you want 1GB of RAM.

Not true

Xanex
10-06-2003, 05:43 PM
The pc233 ram will declock itself and will only run at pc133.

There is no point in getting anybetter ram (didnt think you could get pc233 sdram, thought pc150 was the top and thats overclocked pc133 anyway)

just buy a stick of 512pc133, its alot cheaper, just make sure u get the same CAS rating etc as ur current ram and ull be ok =)

You'll also have to check that your Mobo supports the faster ram or it will run at the lowest spec it can take. If it does just upgrade the whole lot, you wont notice much if any difference in speed with more than 512 of ram, just means u can lose the page file.

BTW what OS are you running.
Other specs from ur machine would be good too =)

g'luk

Xan

nanotek
10-06-2003, 05:59 PM
Originally posted by Xanex@6 October 2003 - 17:43
The pc233 ram will declock itself and will only run at pc133.

There is no point in getting anybetter ram (didnt think you could get pc233 sdram, thought pc150 was the top and thats overclocked pc133 anyway)

just buy a stick of 512pc133, its alot cheaper, just make sure u get the same CAS rating etc as ur current ram and ull be ok =)

You'll also have to check that your Mobo supports the faster ram or it will run at the lowest spec it can take. If it does just upgrade the whole lot, you wont notice much if any difference in speed with more than 512 of ram, just means u can lose the page file.

BTW what OS are you running.
Other specs from ur machine would be good too =)

g'luk

Xan
ok sorry forgot the specs so here they come : p4 2.0 gh,xp pro,512mb pc166 ddram 80gb hard drive

nanotek
10-06-2003, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by Benno@6 October 2003 - 17:41
I've never heard of 133mhz ddr ram, dont you mean sd ram?
I only know of ddr200,266,333,400

You can run to different sticks but chances are that it will slow down everything if they have different speed.



No you cant get any other RAM types except PC133 if you want 1GB of RAM.

Not true
sorry made a mistake with the specs of my ram : 512 mb pc166

hurrah 100 posts :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

DarthInsinuate
10-06-2003, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by nanotek@6 October 2003 - 18:02
the specs of my ram : 512 mb pc166
if you mean your memory is DDR and runs at 166mhz, that means you have pc2700 which is rated at 333mhz (166*2, hence double)

both modules should be the same speed ALWAYS

nanotek
10-06-2003, 07:40 PM
ok this is confusing so i just opened the pc and the exac specs are :512 mb ddr pc 3200 but i think the last post answered my question ! thnkx darthInsinuate :)

bigdawgfoxx
10-06-2003, 11:42 PM
Damn ive heard of alot of new stuff in this post...DDR PC133??? lol PC166....none of that exist i dont believe....but neway...i have PC100 slots. I bought a PC133 and i thought it would work fine...but it DIDNT work at all. What could be the problem? The company told me BOTH sticks had to run at the same speed...thats not what I hear here...Is it something to do with the CAC...or w/e that guy up there said? :huh:

DarthInsinuate
10-07-2003, 12:02 AM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@6 October 2003 - 23:42
i have PC100 slots
thats the problem

3RA1N1AC
10-07-2003, 01:05 AM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@6 October 2003 - 15:42
Damn ive heard of alot of new stuff in this post...DDR PC133??? lol PC166....none of that exist i dont believe....but neway...i have PC100 slots.  I bought a PC133 and i thought it would work fine...but it DIDNT work at all.  What could be the problem?  The company told me BOTH sticks had to run at the same speed...thats not what I hear here...Is it something to do with the CAC...or w/e that guy up there said? :huh:
i know it sounds complicated-- it's all about pin configuration. PC133 should work in PC100 slots (i've mixed 'em, myself, and it worked fine), but the computer will just bump it down to 100mhz instead of 133mhz. if you mix different speeds, even on a PC133 motherboard, it will run all RAM at the speed of the slowest one. if it's not working at all, it's prolly an incompatiblity between that brand of RAM and your motherboard-- just trade it in for a different brand.

i'm guessing you don't have a spare computer to test the PC133 with, so just tell the company it didn't work with your PC100 motherboard... that you think it was either incompatible or DOA but you don't know which, and you want to trade it for a different brand. they'll most likely let you get a different one, without much hassle.

bigdawgfoxx
10-07-2003, 02:13 AM
lol well i mean i sent it back and got my money back easily..tiger direct is awesome...newayz...yeah it was ULTRA ram..which i think is good? lol and i always hear it will run it on the slowest..but when i talked to a guy from tech they said that they had to be the same speeds....also what is that CAS thing that guy was talking about? "Make sure there the same CAS" ?? thanx man

3RA1N1AC
10-07-2003, 02:52 AM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@6 October 2003 - 18:13
lol well i mean i sent it back and got my money back easily..tiger direct is awesome...newayz...yeah it was ULTRA ram..which i think is good? lol and i always hear it will run it on the slowest..but when i talked to a guy from tech they said that they had to be the same speeds....also what is that CAS thing that guy was talking about? "Make sure there the same CAS" ?? thanx man
CAS Latency is a speed rating for RAM, that's much more specific than just mhz. it measures in nanoseconds a certain delay that happens in RAM. a 200mhz RAM stick with a lower CAS Latency should be slightly faster than a 200mhz RAM stick with a higher CAS Latency, for example.

as far as i know, it's not extremely important to match the CAS Latency between all your RAM sticks, but it can make a little bit of a performance & stability difference. if you're not a tech geek who obsesses over getting a couple more frames-per-second in video games, it's usually not even worth paying much attention to. it MIGHT be a good idea to match the CAS Latency between your RAM though, if your motherboard is just really sensitive about that.

i think a program like CPU-Z can help you figure out what CAS Latency your current RAM has.

Amarjit
10-09-2003, 05:46 PM
As mentioned previously, the maximum clock-speed of standard SDRAM is PC133. DDR RAM improves this to 333 and 400MHz, and the nVidia Quadro4 improves that to 1GHz (:w00t:), but that's gettin' off-topic.

If you currently have SDRAM installed, I wouldn't install RD RAM/DDR RAM, because it's most likely that the memory configuration was chosen with a motive behind it, most likely that your motherboard does not support DDR RAM. I was previously in need of a 512MB PC133 DIMM, cheap, and here is a link: http://myahead.com/go/look/product.show_product?v_id=3110.

nanotek
10-17-2003, 07:12 PM
been browsing some paperwork and i endeckt the specs of my board so i decided to post it as this could help to see what i nedd : my board specs are epox board 4pea series : so what could i need to get the most out of my board then ? (new question ) :)

bigdawgfoxx
10-18-2003, 12:51 AM
Is ULTRA good?? Thats what i bought with PC100 slots...the Ram was PC133, so I dont know why it didnt work?? Ne suggestions?