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abu_has_the_power
10-07-2003, 02:45 AM
so far so good. raised clock from 200 to 210, from 2.4 to 2.52

temp is the same!!
i'm so happy

now, should i keep going?

i have p4 2.4 ghz 800fsb
and 865ape

should i keep going? in my bios, it says the highest is 233, but some people with 2.4's go up to 266. wats up with that?

abu_has_the_power
10-07-2003, 02:47 AM
anyone feel like directing me towards the rite path? should i oc some more? and y my bios says max 233

zapjb
10-07-2003, 03:40 AM
If you go to far you'll fry either & or your mobo & CPU. You decide. ;)

abu_has_the_power
10-07-2003, 03:44 AM
many people with my cpu (2.4c) has oced it to at least 3ghz on stock cooling
and rite now, my temp is still 37deg C idle. when i play academy, it's actually lower than before, only 48 when it used to be around 50

_John_Lennon_
10-07-2003, 04:08 AM
I take it those Intel Chipsets lock the multipliers on their motherboards?

Stupid Intel, Im glad AMD doesnt have any of the other chipset companies do that, sigh.


Isnt there a way to unlock the multiplier on the boards anyway? Surely there has to be a way.

Keikan
10-07-2003, 04:35 AM
Personally i only overclock when i can't meet any more systemrequirements for games

abu_has_the_power
10-07-2003, 04:42 AM
i have a horrible 3dmark score of like 1289 somethng like that!! it sucks. adn i have a gforce fx 5200, i'd expect a bit better than that. read overclockers.com and go to forums, and there's at least 50+ people who have a 2.4c and oced it to at least 3.0 or higher

zapjb
10-07-2003, 04:46 AM
I bet if you put it back to stock settings your 3dmark score will be closer to 5000.

abu_has_the_power
10-07-2003, 01:05 PM
y is tat?

lynx
10-07-2003, 01:32 PM
Your agp and pci speeds are out of spec, and that is screwing them up.

You need to lock the agp speed to 66MHz (which will lock the pci speed too), but I can't guarantee that it is possible with your motherboard, or what the actual terminology used is going to be.

There is another thread here (http://www.klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=71881) about this very subject.

abu_has_the_power
10-08-2003, 12:38 AM
how do i lock it to 66mhz? in bios?

abu_has_the_power
10-08-2003, 05:44 AM
Originally posted by zapjb@7 October 2003 - 04:46
I bet if you put it back to stock settings your 3dmark score will be closer to 5000.
well, actually, my 3dmark2003 score is 1407
and my 3dmark2001 is: 6429

is that low or high?
btw, these r after my oc to 2.6ghz and a tiny bit of tweaking on the gforce fx 5200

RedRival
10-08-2003, 06:09 AM
I need to overclock my pretty shitty comps for future purposes.

1.7ghz - how do you overclock it to go faster
gf4 mx 440 - overclock to ?

abu_has_the_power
10-08-2003, 12:59 PM
http://www.caneage.com/modules.php?op=modl...&artid=7&page=1 (http://www.caneage.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=7&page=1)

read that to oc ur vd card

and go into bios to oc ur cpu. but watch out for temps. get a temp monitor software and keep is running

adamp2p
10-08-2003, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power+8 October 2003 - 06:44--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abu_has_the_power @ 8 October 2003 - 06:44)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-zapjb@7 October 2003 - 04:46
I bet if you put it back to stock settings your 3dmark score will be closer to 5000.
well, actually, my 3dmark2003 score is 1407
and my 3dmark2001 is: 6429

is that low or high?
btw, these r after my oc to 2.6ghz and a tiny bit of tweaking on the gforce fx 5200 [/b][/quote]
What is your aquamark3 score?

Why don&#39;t you overclock higher? To 3 GHz? Can your memory handle it?

abu_has_the_power
10-08-2003, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by adamp2p+8 October 2003 - 14:04--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (adamp2p @ 8 October 2003 - 14:04)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@8 October 2003 - 06:44
<!--QuoteBegin-zapjb@7 October 2003 - 04:46
I bet if you put it back to stock settings your 3dmark score will be closer to 5000.
well, actually, my 3dmark2003 score is 1407
and my 3dmark2001 is: 6429

is that low or high?
btw, these r after my oc to 2.6ghz and a tiny bit of tweaking on the gforce fx 5200
What is your aquamark3 score?

Why don&#39;t you overclock higher? To 3 GHz? Can your memory handle it? [/b][/quote]
i&#39;m a little confused. how can i tell if my mem can handle it? and rite now, my idle is 38-40. is that high?

adamp2p
10-08-2003, 06:41 PM
What are your RAM specs? AIDA32 should tell you that.

abu_has_the_power
10-08-2003, 10:14 PM
i get 2739 read and 1078 read. this is single channel memory. my comp manufacturing put the wrong mem in and they are sending me the dual channel. it&#39;ll arrive in 2-3 days.

are these the specs ur looking for?

netweiser
10-08-2003, 10:18 PM
how do u overclock?

i have a amd athlon xp 1.4ghz

adamp2p
10-08-2003, 10:50 PM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@8 October 2003 - 23:14
i get 2739 read and 1078 read. this is single channel memory. my comp manufacturing put the wrong mem in and they are sending me the dual channel. it&#39;ll arrive in 2-3 days.

are these the specs ur looking for?
Memory Module Properties
Module Name Micron Tech. 8VDDT3264AG-40BC4
Serial Number
Module Size 256 MB (1 rows, 4 banks)
Module Type Unbuffered
Memory Type DDR SDRAM
Memory Speed PC3200 (200 MHz)
Module Width 64 bit
Module Voltage SSTL 2.5
Error Detection Method None
Refresh Rate Reduced (7.8 us), Self-Refresh
Highest CAS Latency 3.0 (5.0 ns @ 200 MHz)
2nd Highest CAS Latency 2.5 (6.0 ns @ 166 MHz)

Memory Module Features
Early RAS# Precharge Not Supported
Auto-Precharge Not Supported
Precharge All Not Supported
Write1/Read Burst Not Supported
Buffered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported
Registered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported
On-Card PLL (Clock) Not Supported
Buffered DQMB Inputs Not Supported
Registered DQMB Inputs Not Supported
Differential Clock Input Supported
Redundant Row Address Not Supported

Memory Module Manufacturer
Company Name Micron Technology, Inc.
Product Information http://www.micron.com/products/category.jsp?path=/DRAM

Nope, these are specs from AIDA32.

abu_has_the_power
10-08-2003, 10:53 PM
under which option do i find this?

DarthInsinuate
10-08-2003, 10:53 PM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@8 October 2003 - 14:58
i&#39;m a little confused. how can i tell if my mem can handle it? and rite now, my idle is 38-40. is that high?
i think 60 under load is high, to test if you&#39;re processor and memory are okay when overclocked you can get Sandra and use the burn-in tests

adamp2p
10-08-2003, 11:40 PM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@8 October 2003 - 23:53
under which option do i find this?
Use AIDA32. It is a free program. Look under motherboard properties.

bigdawgfoxx
10-08-2003, 11:57 PM
I got a 64MB GeForce 4 MMX....not worth overclocking? just a little? to say mine is overclocked lolol?? also...what is a good program I can use to see my CPU and GPU temps...thanx...also can someone list what is a high temp for the CPU and GPU

BTW...i have no cooling on the GPU...or any case fans...

3rd gen noob
10-08-2003, 11:59 PM
mine doesn&#39;t have a serial number...did i steal it? :rolleyes:

Memory Module Properties
Module Name Corsair CMX512-3500C2
Serial Number None
Module Size 512 MB (2 rows, 4 banks)
Module Type Unbuffered
Memory Type DDR SDRAM
Memory Speed PC3200 (200 MHz)
Module Width 64 bit
Module Voltage SSTL 2.5
Error Detection Method None
Refresh Rate Reduced (7.8 us), Self-Refresh
Highest CAS Latency 2.5 (5.0 ns @ 200 MHz)
2nd Highest CAS Latency 2.0 (6.0 ns @ 166 MHz)

Memory Module Features
Early RAS# Precharge Not Supported
Auto-Precharge Not Supported
Precharge All Not Supported
Write1/Read Burst Not Supported
Buffered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported
Registered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported
On-Card PLL (Clock) Not Supported
Buffered DQMB Inputs Not Supported
Registered DQMB Inputs Not Supported
Differential Clock Input Supported
Redundant Row Address Not Supported

Memory Module Manufacturer
Company Name Corsair Memory, Inc.
Product Information http://www.corsairmicro.com/main/products.htm

go to motherboard>spd, abu

abu_has_the_power
10-09-2003, 12:00 AM
tanks:

Memory Module Properties
Serial Number None
Module Size 256 MB (1 rows, 4 banks)
Module Type Unbuffered
Memory Type DDR SDRAM
Memory Speed PC3200 (200 MHz)
Module Width 64 bit
Module Voltage SSTL 2.5
Error Detection Method None
Refresh Rate Reduced (7.8 us), Self-Refresh
Highest CAS Latency 2.5 (5.0 ns @ 200 MHz)

Memory Module Features
Early RAS# Precharge Not Supported
Auto-Precharge Not Supported
Precharge All Not Supported
Write1/Read Burst Not Supported
Buffered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported
Registered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported
On-Card PLL (Clock) Not Supported
Buffered DQMB Inputs Not Supported
Registered DQMB Inputs Not Supported
Differential Clock Input Supported
Redundant Row Address Not Supported


and heres #2:

Memory Module Properties
Serial Number None
Module Size 256 MB (1 rows, 4 banks)
Module Type Unbuffered
Memory Type DDR SDRAM
Memory Speed PC3200 (200 MHz)
Module Width 64 bit
Module Voltage SSTL 2.5
Error Detection Method None
Refresh Rate Reduced (7.8 us), Self-Refresh
Highest CAS Latency 2.5 (5.0 ns @ 200 MHz)

Memory Module Features
Early RAS# Precharge Not Supported
Auto-Precharge Not Supported
Precharge All Not Supported
Write1/Read Burst Not Supported
Buffered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported
Registered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported
On-Card PLL (Clock) Not Supported
Buffered DQMB Inputs Not Supported
Registered DQMB Inputs Not Supported
Differential Clock Input Supported
Redundant Row Address Not Supported


wat do u think. do i need to change the ration thing?

3rd gen noob
10-09-2003, 12:01 AM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@8 October 2003 - 23:57
I got a 64MB GeForce 4 MMX....not worth overclocking? just a little? to say mine is overclocked lolol?? also...what is a good program I can use to see my CPU and GPU temps...thanx...also can someone list what is a high temp for the CPU and GPU

BTW...i have no cooling on the GPU...or any case fans...
don&#39;t overclock unless you need to
use motherboard monitor for cpu/motherboard temps
safe temp for cpu anywhere from 35-55 degrees celsius
anything under 50 for gpu, depending on spec

abu_has_the_power
10-09-2003, 12:20 AM
Originally posted by 3rd gen noob+9 October 2003 - 00:01--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3rd gen noob @ 9 October 2003 - 00:01)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@8 October 2003 - 23:57
I got a 64MB GeForce 4 MMX....not worth overclocking? just a little? to say mine is overclocked lolol?? also...what is a good program I can use to see my CPU and GPU temps...thanx...also can someone list what is a high temp for the CPU and GPU

BTW...i have no cooling on the GPU...or any case fans...
don&#39;t overclock unless you need to
use motherboard monitor for cpu/motherboard temps
safe temp for cpu anywhere from 35-55 degrees celsius
anything under 50 for gpu, depending on spec [/b][/quote]
how did u check ur vd card temp? is there a software for that?

3rd gen noob
10-09-2003, 12:22 AM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@9 October 2003 - 00:20
how did u check ur vd card temp? is there a software for that?
my new card came bundled with a hardware monitor
not sure if you can get other software to check though

adamp2p
10-09-2003, 12:36 AM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@9 October 2003 - 00:57
I got a 64MB GeForce 4 MMX....not worth overclocking? just a little? to say mine is overclocked lolol?? also...what is a good program I can use to see my CPU and GPU temps...thanx...also can someone list what is a high temp for the CPU and GPU

BTW...i have no cooling on the GPU...or any case fans...
You can easily overclock the geforce with the freeware RivaTuner. You can also soft mod your geforce into a Quadro; however, I don&#39;t recommend it.

bigdawgfoxx
10-09-2003, 01:19 AM
I have no GPU cooling or case fans...should i definently not overclock with no airflow?

Also, Adam...what is the diff between a Quadro and a Geforce? i mean i know the Quadro cost way more..but why? lol thanx man

_John_Lennon_
10-09-2003, 01:43 AM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@8 October 2003 - 20:19
I have no GPU cooling or case fans...should i definently not overclock with no airflow?

Also, Adam...what is the diff between a Quadro and a Geforce? i mean i know the Quadro cost way more..but why? lol thanx man
airflow is key to keeping things cool.


ALso, could you give some links guys on softmodding and overclocking Geforce cards? I just used Rage3d Tweak on my Radeon, but havnt went looking for Nividia overclocking progs.

adamp2p
10-09-2003, 01:50 AM
Forget the Quadro bit. The Quadro is a card marketed to CAD folks. I actually tried the mod on my dad&#39;s computer (Geforce MX440 SSE), and it does not work; it works better with the plain geforce 4 cards.

The following is a copy/paste from guru3d.com


Yes it&#39;s finally here. You can force the professional Quadro4 family on your normal GeForce4 without soldering on the PCB to force the Device_ID, all that with a little software patch and a little help from some anonymous friends that is.
read more about it here (http://www.guru3d.com/rivatuner/)

Soft Quadro is a registry mod that is built into the Riva tuner. Get it even if you do not want to do the mod. You can do low level overclocking, hardware level overclocking and LOD bias settigs.

I installed Riva Tuner on my dad&#39;s computer he has your exact card I think. It works really well. I wish there was such a utility for ATI (well actually Rage3d tweak is great, but the user interface of Riva Tuner a bit nicer in my opinion).

abu_has_the_power
10-09-2003, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by _John_Lennon_+9 October 2003 - 01:43--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (_John_Lennon_ @ 9 October 2003 - 01:43)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@8 October 2003 - 20:19
I have no GPU cooling or case fans...should i definently not overclock with no airflow?

Also, Adam...what is the diff between a Quadro and a Geforce? i mean i know the Quadro cost way more..but why? lol thanx man
airflow is key to keeping things cool.


ALso, could you give some links guys on softmodding and overclocking Geforce cards? I just used Rage3d Tweak on my Radeon, but havnt went looking for Nividia overclocking progs. [/b][/quote]
an even easier way to oc ur nvidia is to go to:
http://www.caneage.com/modules.php?op=modl...&artid=7&page=1 (http://www.caneage.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=7&page=1)

dl the registry thing, and follow some very easy instructions

DarthInsinuate
10-09-2003, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@9 October 2003 - 13:09
dl the registry thing, and follow some very easy instructions
the &#39;coolbits&#39; driver-level overclocking tool is a bit irritating - the screen does this annoying blinking thing at startup

Rivatuner allows low-level overclocking so you don&#39;t get that

abu_has_the_power
10-09-2003, 09:52 PM
yea, i sometimes get that screen flickering thing. how do i remove it?

DarthInsinuate
10-09-2003, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@9 October 2003 - 21:52
yea, i sometimes get that screen flickering thing. how do i remove it?
reset your clocks to default, and use Rivatuner&#39;s low-level clock settings instead of coolbits

abu_has_the_power
10-09-2003, 11:08 PM
how hot will the card get? like just a little bit of tweaking?

abu_has_the_power
10-09-2003, 11:20 PM
Detonator 5.08 or higher NVIDIA reference drivers for Windows 2000 / Windows XP.

where do i get a driver like that? i have like 45.23 or something

and the thing is hollowed out. wtf?

here&#39;s a scrnshot:

http://www.freewebs.com/ihaveabu/rivatuner%20prob.JPG

DarthInsinuate
10-09-2003, 11:23 PM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@9 October 2003 - 23:08
how hot will the card get? like just a little bit of tweaking?
it shouldn&#39;t get any hotter than if you over clocked with coolbits

Detonator 5.08 - sounds like an ancient driver, Rivatuner should support any Nvidia card

abu_has_the_power
10-09-2003, 11:26 PM
Detonator 5.08 or higher NVIDIA reference drivers for Windows 2000 / Windows XP.

where do i get a driver like that? i have like 45.23 or something

and the thing is hollowed out. wtf?

here&#39;s a scrnshot:

http://www.freewebs.com/ihaveabu/rivatuner%20prob.JPG

abu_has_the_power
10-09-2003, 11:59 PM
help?

adamp2p
10-10-2003, 12:00 AM
Abu--the drivers you have currently are the newest available for Nvidia, and if not, go to Nvidia&#39;s website and download them there. What card do ya have? Maybe you have the new Nvidia cards that do not permit you to overclock. If you happen to have the 5200 series, I would advise dumping that into the garbage altogether.

Abu, you seem like a real computer freak like me; why don&#39;t you get an ATI card?

abu_has_the_power
10-10-2003, 12:11 AM
yea, i have a gforce fx 5200. i don&#39;t plan on spending anymore money. and yes, it does support ocing. u can oc the mem frequency and stuff

adamp2p
10-10-2003, 12:14 AM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@10 October 2003 - 01:11
yea, i have a gforce fx 5200. i don&#39;t plan on spending anymore money. and yes, it does support ocing. u can oc the mem frequency and stuff
Well Abu, I may actually be wrong about that Nvidia fx 5200 card being crap. That is just what I have read. I am very curious as to what kind of Aquamark score you get with your card.

Why don&#39;t you download Aquamark3 and see what kind of score you get to see if it is or is not really garbage. Bust out some benchmarks and specs and show us what your system is make of. That is how we on the board know what you really have. Take a lookie at my Aquamark thread last week. Me and 3rd gen noob posted our specs there. We both scored above 30,000 in Aquamark3. If you score even 20,000 I would honestly be impressed.

You obviously know how to post a screenshot, so post one after you benchmark.

What I advise you do is run the benchmark at least twice without any overclocking, and then try at least twice for each clock freqency. Start with something safe like a 5% overclock and move up to 10% and so on, 10% should be safe. See if you get any image abberations. Continue overclocking until you run into artifacting, etc. And have fun&#33;

learn where to download aquamark3 and show us your score (http://www.aquamark3.com/)

Your friend B)

abu_has_the_power
10-10-2003, 01:04 AM
thanks. i have 3dmark 01 and 03 scores on hand
if u want them:
3DMARK03: 1407
3DMARK01: 6429

i&#39;ll run aquamark soon

L0rD_S0tH
10-10-2003, 03:47 AM
hmmmmm.....in the "whats this" dialog in rivatuner it says it doesn&#39;t support the FX series of cards. Guess I&#39;m stuck with coolbits.

Oh yeah I got the fx5200 as well.

My aquamark scores are:

GFX-957
CPU-7757
Total-9028.

Not the worst score but not the best either. The fx5200 isn&#39;t that good of a card but it&#39;ll work for me for the moment. <_<

Once I get the money I&#39;ll probably get a RADEON 9600 XT, but I just can&#39;t afford &#036;200 right now. :(

Now if some of ya&#39;ll wanted to donate some money to the "get Soth a good GFX card" fund, I could probably make things happen......LOL :lol: :D :lol:

imported_Catracho
10-10-2003, 04:41 AM
How do u overclock a CPU? Do u go to BIOS and change some settings or do u actually have to do some changes to the CPU itself. Thanks

abu_has_the_power
10-10-2003, 04:52 AM
u change in bios. and yea, 5200 isn&#39;t very good, but it&#39;ll play hl2 for sure, and doom 3 at 3-6 fps, so far is ok. when i get money, which looks like never, i&#39;ll get either a radeon 9500 pro, or the high end ones if they r cheap

L0rD_S0tH
10-10-2003, 04:57 AM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@9 October 2003 - 22:52
and yea, 5200 isn&#39;t very good, but it&#39;ll play hl2 for sure, and doom 3 at 3-6 fps, so far is ok.
yeah it can play recent games so thats about all I wanted. Granted I generally gotta put the settings on medium but it&#39;s better than nothing. I wouldn&#39;t say its a bad card...especially not for the price. I&#39;ve certainly had no problems with it so thats always a plus.

adamp2p
10-10-2003, 04:57 AM
Originally posted by L0rD_S0tH@10 October 2003 - 04:47

Once I get the money I&#39;ll probably get a RADEON 9600 XT, but I just can&#39;t afford &#036;200 right now. :(

Now if some of ya&#39;ll wanted to donate some money to the "get Soth a good GFX card" fund, I could probably make things happen......LOL&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :D&nbsp; :lol:
I would donate to your cause, as it is legit, but I am a little short on dough myself.

I actually only paid &#036;140 and got a Radeon 9500 non pro card with the help of Omega&#39;s catalyst set, I converted it into a 9500 pro.

I don&#39;t really spend any money on cool clothes and other bullsh*t as my main concern is a having a badass computer because I use it so much and love it. As a teen I did more dope than anybody I know so I feel comfortable being a computer nerd these days.

The reason why I like the Aquamark3 score is becuase it reflects how well your computer will perform in future games.

The Radeon 9600 XT you could still get for &#036;160 US. Save your dough. It will be a f*cking thrill when you finally get that kind of boost. I never knew what gaming really was until I got my 9500. It is like a virtual reality...so real.

Thanks for the cool thread. B) B)

abu_has_the_power
10-10-2003, 05:22 AM
anyone have the serial for aquamark?

adamp2p
10-10-2003, 05:42 AM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@10 October 2003 - 06:22
anyone have the serial for aquamark?
You don&#39;t need it to run the benchmark.

abu_has_the_power
10-10-2003, 05:47 AM
my scores at 1024*768

GPU: 777
CPU: 8084
7411

sucks balls

abu_has_the_power
10-10-2003, 05:49 AM
Originally posted by L0rD_S0tH@10 October 2003 - 03:47
hmmmmm.....in the "whats this" dialog in rivatuner it says it doesn&#39;t support the FX series of cards. Guess I&#39;m stuck with coolbits.

Oh yeah I got the fx5200 as well.

My aquamark scores are:

GFX-957
CPU-7757
Total-9028.

Not the worst score but not the best either. The fx5200 isn&#39;t that good of a card but it&#39;ll work for me for the moment. <_<

Once I get the money I&#39;ll probably get a RADEON 9600 XT, but I just can&#39;t afford &#036;200 right now. :(

Now if some of ya&#39;ll wanted to donate some money to the "get Soth a good GFX card" fund, I could probably make things happen......LOL :lol: :D :lol:
u overclock ur gpu rite? i&#39;m at stock mhz. i should oc it, but can&#39;t get rivatuner to work. should i use the driver overclocking options? that&#39;s the same as using coolbits, but i can&#39;t get the low settings thing to work in rivatuner

adamp2p
10-10-2003, 08:25 AM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@10 October 2003 - 06:47


sucks balls
Abu, you are funny.

That is a good thing, though. I had a geforcemx 420 for a year; let me tell you--it was a good thing. When I finally did get a good card (not GREAT) it was like entering a new universe.

I guess you could say it like this--the time I spend with a lower end card made it so I could really appreciate medium-high end. You see if I always had a good card then I would never know the difference...so when you do upgrade it will be true extacy for you, my friend. :)

adamp2p
10-10-2003, 08:27 AM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@10 October 2003 - 06:47
my scores at 1024*768

GPU: 777
CPU: 8084
7411

sucks balls
Show us your link

see this thread, as it shows mine and 3rd gen noobs aquamark3 score AND our system specs (http://www.klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=71631)

L0rD_S0tH
10-10-2003, 04:47 PM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@9 October 2003 - 23:49
u overclock ur gpu rite? i&#39;m at stock mhz. i should oc it, but can&#39;t get rivatuner to work. should i use the driver overclocking options? that&#39;s the same as using coolbits, but i can&#39;t get the low settings thing to work in rivatuner
Yeah its OCed. I used coolbits, I wanted to use rivatuner but it appears as if it doesn&#39;t support the FX series of cards. My core clock is at 280MHz and my memory clock is at 451MHz. I can&#39;t go over 451MHz on the memory without artifacts or errors, I could go higher on the core clock but I read somewhere that going over 280MHz would be bad for the card as the core clock creates a lot of heat when you raise it. Plus I don&#39;t think it affects the card&#39;s performance nearly as much as the memory clock frequncies anyway.


BTW

Here&#39;s my aquamrk3 score site:

Soth&#39;s Aquamark3 Scores (http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_userhome.php)

adamp2p
10-10-2003, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by L0rD_S0tH+10 October 2003 - 17:47--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (L0rD_S0tH @ 10 October 2003 - 17:47)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@9 October 2003 - 23:49
u overclock ur gpu rite? i&#39;m at stock mhz. i should oc it, but can&#39;t get rivatuner to work. should i use the driver overclocking options? that&#39;s the same as using coolbits, but i can&#39;t get the low settings thing to work in rivatuner
Yeah its OCed. I used coolbits, I wanted to use rivatuner but it appears as if it doesn&#39;t support the FX series of cards. My core clock is at 280MHz and my memory clock is at 451MHz. I can&#39;t go over 451MHz on the memory without artifacts or errors, I could go higher on the core clock but I read somewhere that going over 280MHz would be bad for the card as the core clock creates a lot of heat when you raise it. Plus I don&#39;t think it affects the card&#39;s performance nearly as much as the memory clock frequncies anyway.


BTW

Here&#39;s my aquamrk3 score site:

Soth&#39;s Aquamark3 Scores (http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_userhome.php) [/b][/quote]
Lord Soth, you did not post the correct page. Click the link that says "view" and copy the URL of the page with the single score sheet.

L0rD_S0tH
10-10-2003, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by adamp2p@10 October 2003 - 12:38
Lord Soth, you did not post the correct page. Click the link that says "view" and copy the URL of the page with the single score sheet.
You talking about this page?

Aquamark Score (http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?runID=1447129517)

adamp2p
10-10-2003, 08:28 PM
Originally posted by L0rD_S0tH+10 October 2003 - 21:05--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (L0rD_S0tH &#064; 10 October 2003 - 21:05)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-adamp2p@10 October 2003 - 12:38
Lord Soth, you did not post the correct page. Click the link that says "view" and copy the URL of the page with the single score sheet.
You talking about this page?

Aquamark Score (http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?runID=1447129517) [/b][/quote]
Yes, very nice. The cool thing about that page is that it shows your whole system specs. ;) It helps up readers to better understand your result. B)

Also Lord Soth, I noted that your CPU is clocked over 3 GHz but your CPU score is less than mine.

What really gets me is the fact that you have such a powerful CPU, and not a very powerful GPU at all. What are your upgrade plans and when?

What is your CPU default clock?

abu_has_the_power
10-10-2003, 09:40 PM
Originally posted by adamp2p+10 October 2003 - 08:27--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (adamp2p @ 10 October 2003 - 08:27)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@10 October 2003 - 06:47
my scores at 1024*768

GPU: 777
CPU: 8084
7411

sucks balls
Show us your link

see this thread, as it shows mine and 3rd gen noobs aquamark3 score AND our system specs (http://www.klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=71631) [/b][/quote]
i&#39;m gona oc my gpu tonite, and post a new aquamark score (site too, if i can figure out how it works) later tonite.

L0rD_S0tH
10-10-2003, 09:59 PM
Originally posted by adamp2p@10 October 2003 - 14:28
Yes, very nice.&nbsp; The cool thing about that page is that it shows your whole system specs.&nbsp; ;)&nbsp; It helps up readers to better understand your result.&nbsp; B)

Also Lord Soth, I noted that your CPU is clocked over 3 GHz but your CPU score is less than mine.

What really gets me is the fact that you have such a powerful CPU, and not a very powerful GPU at all.&nbsp; What are your upgrade plans and when?

What is your CPU default clock?
hmmmm.....I actually chose not to overclock my cpu, (don&#39;t think I know enuff to do it right, which would probably explain why my CPU score is low, I&#39;m just studying stuff on the net and trying learn how) but you&#39;re right, my FSB was still overclocked, so I went back into my bios and manually put it back to 2.8GHz. I guess when you press the "return to default" button (F5) in my bios it resets everything but my FSB. LOL

I plan on upgrading my GPU as soon as I can. Like I said I really cant afford to at the mo, unfortunately (school isn&#39;t cheap :rolleyes: ). My goal is to upgrade to the radeon 9600 XT within 6 months, but who knows how that&#39;ll pan out.

*edit*
I redid the aquamark3 becnhmark after reseting my CPU and I see my cpu score did, in fact, improve.


New Score (http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?runID=1453985377)

adamp2p
10-10-2003, 11:50 PM
Lord Soth,

You did not enter the right URL for the newer score.

Message:
The user, that has made this measurement, has set it to be private. If you know him, you can tell him to set it to "public" on his overview page.

L0rD_S0tH
10-11-2003, 12:06 AM
whoops sorry bout that. It should work now.

adamp2p
10-11-2003, 12:57 AM
Check out this score&#33; 37,000 (http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?runID=1458168219)

TheFilePirater
10-11-2003, 01:04 AM
i dont have anything against ocing, but the thing is WHY?????, why not buy a better g-card or proccesser, cuz if u dont kno wat ur doing u could end up messing iit up

Triadcool
10-11-2003, 01:10 AM
i dont have anything against ocing, but the thing is WHY?????, why not buy a better g-card or proccesser, cuz if u dont kno wat ur doing u could end up messing iit up

And waste a lot of money&#33;

adamp2p
10-11-2003, 01:31 AM
I don&#39;t understand what you guys are trying to say.

I overclock my card to what I know is safe, and through using all important logic.

I know what my memory can take and what it cannot. I know what my core can take and what it cannot.

I learn about things before I attempt them. Just like before I take a lady to bed, I like to know what (who) else has been up her skirt.

I save money by overclocking. I paid &#036;140 US for my Radeon 9500 non pro card and it scores higher than its &#036;200 dollar brother at its own speeds. For one thing, I do not get any artifacting at those speeds I tried. I learned that the memory clock cannot go any higher than 280 MHz without errors. Now I am finding the core to be able to handle up to and over 360 MHz. That might be because of the new Catalyst 3.8 Omega driver set. I scored when I got the same RAM chips that are in the Radeon 9500 pro, so I know it can easily do its speeds.

The reason why I got the card I got is because I knew it was possible to do what I did, and the risk I took paid off. Taking chances is something you should learn to do. It makes you feel alive.

If you don&#39;t know what youre doing, then don&#39;t play. ;)

L0rD_S0tH
10-11-2003, 02:11 AM
Originally posted by TheFilePirater@10 October 2003 - 19:04
i dont have anything against ocing, but the thing is WHY?????, why not buy a better g-card or proccesser, cuz if u dont kno wat ur doing u could end up messing iit up
simple answer:

computer geek

Plain and simple, only people who like to push there systems are interested in OCing. Some people can get P4 3.2GHz processor and they&#39;ll still overclock it. In fact they&#39;ll get it just to see how far they can push it. I am very comfortable OCing my vid card, like adamp2p mentioned, I studied and learned everything I could before doing it and even then I took every precaution to make sure i didn&#39;t screw things up.

I&#39;m looking into to OCing my CPU, as you can see from my post above I hadn&#39;t quite figured out what I was doing yet so I went back to my stock speed. The key is that I never pushed my CPU too hard so I, really didn&#39;t have to worry about blowing it. On top of that I monitored it very closely to ensure it did not overheat, or act up. I realize I don&#39;t know what I&#39;m doing yet, and I&#39;ll not attempt again until I learn. Besides the best way to learn anything is through trial and error. The key is to make sure the "errors" aren&#39;t going to be detrimental. Moderation is the key.....I think. :lol:

adamp2p
10-11-2003, 02:14 AM
I like your thoughts, Lord Sith. Very well organized. Nice thread.

http://www.mcbriens.net/liam/img/smilies/w00tbrows.gif

I wish I could overclock my cpu, but as I went cheap and got a dell, that is not really a possibility.

abu_has_the_power
10-11-2003, 04:45 AM
Originally posted by adamp2p@11 October 2003 - 02:14
I like your thoughts, Lord Sith.&nbsp; Very well organized.&nbsp; Nice thread.

http://www.mcbriens.net/liam/img/smilies/w00tbrows.gif

I wish I could overclock my cpu, but as I went cheap and got a dell, that is not really a possibility.
wat r ur specs again adamp2p?

adamp2p
10-11-2003, 04:57 AM
Pentium 4 3.00 GHz 800MHz Front Side Bus HT enabled |Intel i875P Canterwood |Dual 120 GB Western Digital Caviar 7200 rpm, 8 MB Cache in RAID 0| 1024 MB Dual Channel DDR 400| Sapphire Radeon 9500 128 MB soft mod to pro 9500 | 48X Samsung CDRW 16X Liteon Variable CD Rom | Sony FD Trinitron 21&#39; Multiscan E540|MS Optical Mouse| MS Natural enhanced keyboard| Creative Inspire 5200 5.1 6 speaker surround |Soundblaster Live&#33; 5.1 WinXP Home SP1

L0rD_S0tH
10-11-2003, 05:07 AM
Originally posted by adamp2p@10 October 2003 - 20:14
I wish I could overclock my cpu, but as I went cheap and got a dell, that is not really a possibility.
Yeah I prolly shouldn&#39;t OC either and likely won&#39;t now that I know the limitations of my mobo. I got a ASUS P4S800 MOBO. My multiplier is locked of course (damn intel :angry: ) and while I can increase my clock speed there&#39;s no real AGP/PCI fix (impossible to lock to 66/33 MHz) and I can get only 1.6 V for the CPU.

Oh well, I should be happy with what i got. I&#39;d like to get a new MOBO but I really want a new vid card first. At least the P4S800 support 8x agp and 800MHz FSB Intel Pentium 4 with HT technology.

So much hardware so little money. LOL :lol:

Keikan
10-11-2003, 05:18 AM
102mhz gee wish i could do that, but the p2 is locked

L0rD_S0tH
10-11-2003, 05:31 AM
Originally posted by adamp2p@10 October 2003 - 18:57
Check out this score&#33; 37,000 (http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?runID=1458168219)
BTW thats one hechuva score. really puts my crappy fx5200 into perspective.

Thanks alot

LOL :lol:

adamp2p
10-11-2003, 05:43 AM
Hey man, and I swear there was virtually no image problems at that clock. I tried playing Midnight Club 2 at those settings (my new favorite game, thanks to a suggestion by 3rd gen noob).

I am about to go to this restaraunt to pick up some take out. When I come back I am going to go back to those exact settings and see if I can maintain the same stability.

Oh, and a tip: disable your virus protection before entering a game. Serious resource hogs&#33;

abu_has_the_power
10-11-2003, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by adamp2p@11 October 2003 - 05:43
Oh, and a tip: disable your virus protection before entering a game. Serious resource hogs&#33;
y does the explorer thing take up 20000kb? and ccap (norton av 2004) takes up 10000kb. wat&#39;s up with that? y so much for explorer?