My Next Bluray Upload

[Lepgek]

Hi guys as you may or may not know i have just uploaded my first Bluray 25gb to usenet, i was wondering on suggestions for my next release.

Here is a list of what i have to offer for now


Fast and furious
2 fast 2 furious
Fast and furious Tokyo drift
Fast and furious 2009
Gone In 60 seconds
Madagascar
Madagascar 2
Xmen
Xmen2
Xmen3
Xmen wolverine
Ghostbusters
Bedtime stories
Bolt
Bugs life
Wall-e
Cars
Monsters Inc
Kung Fu panda
Men in black
Slumdog millionaire
Independence day
Blood diamond
The mask
Jay and silent bob strike back
The matrix
Labyrinth
Hellboy 2
Helloboy
Observe and report
Bee movie
Ice age
Ice age2
Paul blart mall cop
Galapagos
Coraline
Transformers
Transformers 2
The waterboy
Hitman
G.I joe
Indiana jones-kingdom of the crystal skulls
Max payne
Ironman
Fantastic 4
Snatch
You don't mess with the zohan
Zack and miri make a porno
Hotel for dogs
Fired UP
Blade
ice age 3 Dawn of the dinosaur
Year one
Angels and deamons
The Green Mile
Half Baked (HD-DVD Convert)
Drag me to hell
Monsters V Aliens
Up (2009)
Edward Scissorhands


I have noticed that there are no current copys of Ice Age Dawn of the Dinosaur Bluray and Disney UP (2009) There is one copy of Monsters v Aliens but its passworded.


Please Can you all post what you want and ill see what comes out most popular.


Thanks

[Beck38]

What I would do, since I guess that your current list is your 'favs', is to review (if you already haven't) the stuff uploaded over the past few months. Probably the best resource for doing this is Newzbin.

A hope you aren't taking 50gb BR's and 'stripping out' what you 'think' is immaterial (or for that matter stripping single layer 25G BR's). There's so much of that going on right now it's really discouraging. Tons of good stuff, rendered totally useless by this practice (and they really aren't saving very much transfer time doing it).

But like I said, you can get a good idea of what's already been done by reviewing the past, so to speak (and with retention times on most servers beginning to exceed 1 year....).

[Lepgek]

The films i have are mixture depending of the size of the origional disk, as i like a good quality film i try to keep the main film as high quality as i can, so some films have had all the menu and extras taken out but i try to leave the audio and subs alone if i can, Theres nothing worse than someone shrinking a fill bd50 down to 25gb leaving the whole menu and extras in whats the point in going bluray when all that does is shrink the film so much you might as well just watch the x264.
My rips are done to make the main film be the best possible quality as 90% of people will only watch the film and not the extras.

[Beck38]

Take a page from the near-term past, and what was done with DVD9's in the 'early days' (say circa 2000-200?, right up to right now).

I think you'd be surprised at how many BD50's, when one strips out the extras and such, have the 'main movie', complete with all the HD audio tracks (with Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD, in multiple languages and with multiple commentary tracks), is less than 25GB.

I try to tell folks that the number of folks that can decode these HD audio tracks are very few, as they require having one of the new HD audio decoding systems (receivers), EXCEPT for DTS-HD. I've explained this before to folks who don't understand, but the way DTS did DTS-HD was to make it an 'adjunct' or 'expansion' to the original DTS, whereas any old DTS decoder (that's been around for around 10 years now, and has been in all the reciever-decoders since then) can decode the 'core' DTS in that DTS-HD stream.

Unfortunately, Dolby didn't do the same 'trick' with TrueHD, it requires a brand new decoder chip.

Since the audio bit-rate is not variable (like video), but static, it chews up a lot of bits. Unfortunately, few BR discs have both types of HD audio, and quite a few have Dolby TrueHD only. There is a program that 'translates' any of the HD audio forms into either standard Dolby 5.1 or DTS 5.1, EAC3TO.

Lots of decisions to be made. I gather from your idea that you'd want to do stuff were you could keep the video 'untouched', and again, I think you (and folks) would be surprised at how many movies are below that threshold, particularly when the HD audio is 'translated' into '5.1', whether Dolby or DTS, playable on their current systems.

A LOT of folks are taking the Dolby TrueHD and converting it into DTS, simply because DTS bit rate is larger than 'standard' Dolby (usually 448kb/s v. 1500k+b/s), although DTS does have a 'half-rate' of 768kbps which some folk take advantage of, and non-music tracks (and even most music ones) and a top-flight system, the difference is small to non-existance.

BUT, DTS (in any form) is much better than Dolby, hands down, whether on SD discs, or in audio translated from the HD audio tracks.

So, the tools are there to 'strip out' the audio, and 'cut back in' a translated track. The commentary tracks, usually Dolby 2.0 (192-224kb/s), can also be processed into very compressed audio, I've seen OGG and AAC used.

One of the things you might keep in mind is whether the max number of folks are set up to play back any 'bizarre' things you might do, BUT folks (uh, like myself?) who are either dipping their toes (or jumping completely in!) have usually tweaked up to do just about anything.

I'm 'assuming' that you're doing BD25 sizes is because of the time involved in uploading, and would rather do 2 BD25's rather than 1 BD50.
But whatever the reasoning, charge ahead.

Personally, I d/l ONLY DVD9's, when taking SD. I split the extras v. main movie, recode the movie (if necessary), and choose whatever audio tracks I want (Dolby, DTS if available, and commentary). Maximum flexibility.

But the tools for doing this are very mature in the SD DVD world, and barely out of diapers in the BD/HD world.

[Lepgek]

I mainly chose BD25 because of the price of disks to buy a bd50 atm you might as well just go out and buy the film as it would most likley be about the same price, and do you really want to take the chance in burning a £7 disk to find out that the film does not play correctly or that the disk costered.
Most films will fit on to a bd25 without much re-encoding as alot of bd50 have Iver original and then unrated versions or tones of extras, Disney disks for example that have lots of extras but who really watches the extras i dont for sure im only intrested in the film and i would prefer a better quality film with better quality audio than a fancy menu and extras in how they made the film or a silly java game.

[AdamRav]

Ghostbusters

Thats my pick

[Lepgek]

Ghostbusters

Thats my pick

Thankyou will see if i got time this week to do it. might have UP bluray to do first

[Beck38]

I mainly chose BD25 because of the price of disks to buy a bd50 atm you might as well just go out and buy the film as it would most likley be about the same price, and do you really want to take the chance in burning a £7 disk

Prices in the US are far better (whip out the exchange rate calculator), with top quality (Vertabim inkjet printables around $6, other brands around half that for BD25, BD50 is north of $18, very expensive).



Most films will fit on to a bd25 without much re-encoding as alot of bd50 have Iver original and then unrated versions or tones of extras, Disney disks for example that have lots of extras but who really watches the extras i dont for sure im only intrested in the film and i would prefer a better quality film with better quality audio than a fancy menu and extras in how they made the film or a silly java game.

For posting, and for leeching, I prefer the entire disc, simply because I can process it and 'split' it to my own desires. Virtually all the 'extras' or 'bonus features' on most discs are in SD anyway, and can be easily processed using standard tools; this will change toward the future as the studios get ramped up to do those extras more in HD.

Again, you can take a clue from what's being done now. Tons of stuff 'Movie Only', just that the majority strip out things I would like, like commentary tracks, that take virtually no bits at all (especially when done in extremely compressed formats).

And with the high bit-rate HD audio (either TrueHD or DTS-HD) converting to DTS (full or half-rate) really is superb. But these are my 'personal' opinions, but I end up searching for a posting that does both (DTS plus commentary tracks), at a decent bit-rate (say 10Mb/s+) which yields around 12-18 GB, particularly when done in 1080P. But when that can't be found, then I try and find a full BR post, look up the source disc (for the DTS-HD track particularly, as I don't have any Dolby True-HD capability), and go from there.

A bit about 720P/1080P; there is a difference (other than the obvious)in the increased size and bit-rate. Even with my somewhat pitiful, first gen. HD display that only does 1080i, there is a very discernible difference between the two. And if I can see it, someone with one of the new 1080P displays can REALLY see it. But that comes back to 'touching' the video as little as possible recoding. Or 'stomping' on it, which a lot of the postings are, in the sub-10GB (or even sub 5GB!) range.

I currently store stuff on three (soon to be four) RAID NAS boxes, fed into PCH, but eventually want to translate to removable/burnable BR discs when the price gets a bit more moderate. At $6/disc, that translates into $240/TB, which is more than my RAID5/6 arrays, but the cheapo discs are half that, so do the math.

The BD25's are falling as I speak; even the Verbatim have gone down $1-2 in the last couple months, and the cheapo's are flirting with sub-$3.

[drokk54]

but who really watches the extras i dont for sure im only intrested in the film and i would prefer a better quality film with better quality audio than a fancy menu and extras in how they made the film or a silly java game

Indeed....... i'm with the 90% on this one......... never watch extra's.....

even "alternative" endings just confuse me......... (Rocky Balboa??!?)....

The 007 Movies (Blu's and Ult Editions have 'interesting' extra's... expecially the old 60's & 70 titles.....)......... but i'm just a bond fan !:blink:

Oh, And IRONMAN all the way........!

Oh Oh........ Voting war!.... i can see it coming!.......... lol

[SonsOfLiberty]

:lol: you should do your entire collection :)

[Beck38]

AT least 3/4 of those have 'already been done', but obviously not to the BD25-style standards that Lepgek proposes. Hopefully, captions/commentaries won't be stripped out, etc., and the main audio translated into DTS. Most I'll bet have the main movie <25GB, so it's all VERY doable.

Example in the other thread, btw.

[moleyman69]

I'd like to request that if you do recompress the video, if even just a tiny little bit, that it is mentioned in the nfo.

I personally like the current crop of remuxed blu-rays where the video is completely untouched and the HD audio is left intact and untouched too.

I store all my file on hard disc so I much MUCH prefer to have it all untouched.

As for which off your list - A Bug's Life for me (well, my son actually)

Cheers,

Moley

[Beck38]

I personally like the current crop of remuxed blu-rays where the video is completely untouched and the HD audio is left intact and untouched too.


I hope you aren't talking about the dim folks who don't understand that the DTS-MA (which they include) 'core' can be be played by any standard DTS decoder, so they use up bits for a DTS 'recode' (at 1.536Mb/s), then strip out the low-bit-rate commentary track(s).

[moleyman69]

Personally, for my situation, that doesn't bother me, as all my files are stored on hard disc. So long as the video and HD audio is left intact and untouched, that's all I'm worried about. In fact, I often remux the files again to removed the extra DTS-only/commentary tracks that they leave in.

For me, it's all about the quality :-)