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Infested Cats
10-10-2003, 12:17 AM
Vatican: condoms don't stop Aids (http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,4770493-106925,00.html)

"The Catholic Church is telling people in countries stricken by Aids not to use condoms because they have tiny holes in them through which the HIV virus can pass - potentially exposing thousands of people to risk."

...contrary to ALL scientific evidence.

Not content with using moral arguments against condoms, they're actually prepared to lie in order to prevent people from using them. They'd rather see people die than 'sin'.

Guillaume
10-10-2003, 12:20 AM
Originally posted by Infested Cats@10 October 2003 - 01:17
Vatican: condoms don't stop Aids (http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,4770493-106925,00.html)

"The Catholic Church is telling people in countries stricken by Aids not to use condoms because they have tiny holes in them through which the HIV virus can pass - potentially exposing thousands of people to risk."

...contrary to ALL scientific evidence.

Not content with using moral arguments against condoms, they're actually prepared to lie in order to prevent people from using them. They'd rather see people die than 'sin'.
Haven't been in church for a while... but isn't lying a mortal sin? :unsure:

summerlinda
10-10-2003, 12:23 AM
http://members.shaw.ca/wenpigsfly/smileys/hang.gif

Lamsey
10-10-2003, 12:23 AM
Originally posted by Gurahl@10 October 2003 - 00:20
Haven't been in church for a while... but isn't lying a mortal sin? :unsure:
Not if you do it in the Name of God.

sArA
10-10-2003, 12:25 AM
It appears that the Fundamentalist Catholic view is that contraception is wrong and that every act of sexual intercourse should have the opportunity to make a new Catholic.

It therefore seems that the actions of the Vatican indicate that they would rather make HIV infected babies, leading to eventual dying out of a generation, than permit a temporary lull in Catholic births.........hmmmmmm strange, do I suspect a self defeating philosophy??

Biggles
10-10-2003, 12:28 AM
I think they are talking about the old ones made from aadvark intestines and string. They can get a bit pourous after you have used them a few times. :blink:

kAb
10-10-2003, 12:38 AM
omg what MORONS

yes the virus is very small and could pass through, but what the virus is INSIDE cannot pass through the condom.


you cant stop people from having sex.

and condoms are the safest way besides abstinence to stop STD's

Biggles
10-10-2003, 12:42 AM
Is this actually official Vatican nonsense or did Father Dougal accidently find his way into the press office? :unsure:

JONNO_CELEBS
10-10-2003, 12:45 AM
Well.....you don't really need my reply as you know what I think of the chirch and all that so I'll just say.......


















WTF?????? <_<

Jonno B)

SodiumChloride
10-10-2003, 01:45 AM
Didn&#39;t a pope invent hell in order to scare people into fighting in the crusades?
There was a show about religions on the History Channel...

TheMusicMan
10-10-2003, 02:11 AM
"Condoms Don&#39;t Stop Aids" - maybe praying does ? lol

Well I think that&#39;s a smart move of them since well umm if they say it does help then maybe people would start asking for money and that&#39;s a thing that they would not like since they need the money for themself.

Btw: I don&#39;t believe in anything higher, and I am with no church since for me that&#39;s all just a "money maker" org. It&#39;s just sad that the church has so much power and have the "right" to get monthly fees (in some countries) even if you don&#39;t want to choose any religion.

Just my 5.7 cents

Spendog
10-10-2003, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by Gurahl@10 October 2003 - 00:20
Haven&#39;t been in church for a while... but isn&#39;t lying a mortal sin?
Not if you`re a catholic... you can just go to confession and then all`s forgiven&#33;

Me, cynical?

Mr. Mulder
10-10-2003, 05:52 PM
Catholicism <_<

MetroStars
10-10-2003, 05:56 PM
flame if u will, but i hate religion and every thing that goes with it...

darker is a 100% right when he says the church is a money making org.

Snee
10-10-2003, 05:59 PM
Originally posted by SodiumChloride@10 October 2003 - 02:45
Didn&#39;t a pope invent hell in order to scare people into fighting in the crusades?
There was a show about religions on the History Channel...
Naw, last I heard the idea of hell was imported from the fenicians, or rather their religion.

@kab: could you clarify your statement, "the virus is very small and can&#39;t pass through, but what the virus is INSIDE cannot pass through the condom"???

I thought that while the integrity of the latex was not enough to prevent stray molecules to pass through, larger clusters like a virus or a cell couldn&#39;t pass through.

Your statement sounded (to me)as if the condom didn&#39;t block the virus as a unit, but the DNA/RNA it carries. While I don&#39;t want to critisize, it really confuses me. :huh: :blink:

huuramis
10-10-2003, 06:03 PM
its like they are trying to kill of there own type of people by making them all get aids.

DanB
10-10-2003, 07:13 PM
WTF??&#33;&#33;?&#33;?&#33;?&#33;?&#33;?&#33;?&#33;?&#33;

Gemby!
10-10-2003, 08:58 PM
i dunno - maybe the pope was taking dope pmsl :D :D :D :D :D

it rymes :P

ScotchGuy
10-10-2003, 09:56 PM
So now the church is killing people by giving them bad advice and they&#39;re raping young boys?

Catholicism has reached new levels of horrible.