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mogadishu
10-11-2003, 02:31 AM
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?...tion=19-116-139 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?description=19-116-139)

i need a pretty cheap mb.. but obviously not a crappy one. Dont really want to spend more than 50 on the mb, as i still have to buy ram and want to keep my total purchase under 250.

Thanks.

mogadishu
10-11-2003, 02:37 AM
also, anyone know anything about ecs motherboards? i see them being advertised a lot.

The Kiler
10-11-2003, 02:37 AM
Originally posted by mogadishu@10 October 2003 - 21:31
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?...tion=19-116-139 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?description=19-116-139)

i need a pretty cheap mb.. but obviously not a crappy one. Dont really want to spend more than 50 on the mb, as i still have to buy ram and want to keep my total purchase under 250.

Thanks.
Microcenter the other day had a 256 SDram for sale for only 14 dollars!! (Orginal price 34 dollars)

Check out Microcenter.. it's cool

adamp2p
10-11-2003, 02:38 AM
I don't know why you are considering getting the P4 @ 2.4 GHz with the 533 fsb. That is a rather unitelligent purchase, in my opinion. That chip does not support hyperthreading.

It would be a far better purchase to get an AMD Athlon Barton XP 2500+ for appx. $80 USD; that way you could get an excellent motherboard. That Intel chip you want is beaten by that particular chip in almost every benchmark I have seen.

It is your choice, though.

bigdawgfoxx
10-11-2003, 03:45 AM
How the hell do you exspect to buy a P4 at 2.4 Ghz a mobo and ram for 250...dont seem possible to me really..unless u dont want much ram...buy the 2500+ like adam said...great value! leave u about 150 for mobo and ram...

mogadishu
10-11-2003, 05:47 AM
i dont want an amd..

adamp2p
10-11-2003, 05:49 AM
Originally posted by mogadishu@11 October 2003 - 06:47
i dont want an amd..
I want to throw away my money...make sense to you? Didn't think so. Intel is clearly the loser at that level. There is no argument about that. But it is your wasted money not mine. Cheers. B)

mogadishu
10-11-2003, 06:05 AM
Originally posted by adamp2p+11 October 2003 - 00:49--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (adamp2p @ 11 October 2003 - 00:49)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-mogadishu@11 October 2003 - 06:47
i dont want an amd..
I want to throw away my money...make sense to you? Didn&#39;t think so. Intel is clearly the loser at that level. There is no argument about that. But it is your wasted money not mine. Cheers. B) [/b][/quote]
no i understand that amd give u more bang for ur buck, and i was planning on getting one.. then i read this and saw the video. Overheating (http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20010917/index.html)

does the new amd athlon xp&#39;s fix this? I really dont want to end up with a fried motherboard.

mogadishu
10-11-2003, 06:11 AM
if the 2500 indeed is safe enough.. this looks like a great deal. i know this mb is quality.

http://www.partspc.com/store/product3448.html

mogadishu
10-11-2003, 06:16 AM
http://www.bzboyz.com/store/product298.html

this is an amazing deal, but the mb is the only thing that makes me wonder if its not owrth it

james_bond_rulez
10-11-2003, 06:29 AM
rofl that&#39;s fucking funny

cpu went up in smoke :lol:

adamp2p
10-11-2003, 06:42 AM
mogadishu--a wise chice. I would not worry yourself about the overheating bit if you do not plan on overclocking your CPU. You could have quite a powerful system for a very cheap price going the AMD route. For specifics on what particular parts to buy, I highly recommend the forums of X-Bitlabs.com. They are a very knowledgeable group--especially regarding building a system from scratch and knowing what is good hardware. Just post your question in the general hardware forum. They were the ones who tipped me off the the Radeon non-pro that I got that performs like the 9500 pro.

Cheers, again.

your friend

mogadishu
10-11-2003, 06:42 AM
Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@11 October 2003 - 01:29
rofl that&#39;s fucking funny

cpu went up in smoke :lol:
lol yea... u can see why i am a bit hesitant

mogadishu
10-11-2003, 06:43 AM
Originally posted by adamp2p@11 October 2003 - 01:42
mogadishu--a wise chice. I would not worry yourself about the overheating bit if you do not plan on overclocking your CPU. You could have quite a powerful system for a very cheap price going the AMD route. For specifics on what particular parts to buy, I highly recommend the forums of X-Bitlabs.com. They are a very knowledgeable group--especially regarding building a system from scratch and knowing what is good hardware. Just post your question in the general hardware forum. They were the ones who tipped me off the the Radeon non-pro that I got that performs like the 9500 pro.

Cheers, again.

your friend
thanks, ill have to give that forum a try.

adamp2p
10-11-2003, 06:47 AM
Dude, those are example of CPUs without HEATSINKS&#33; No wonder they fried, dude&#33;

mogadishu
10-11-2003, 07:00 AM
Originally posted by adamp2p@11 October 2003 - 01:47
Dude, those are example of CPUs without HEATSINKS&#33; No wonder they fried, dude&#33;
yea, but the p4s didnt.. and things get knocked off.

adamp2p
10-11-2003, 07:59 AM
Originally posted by mogadishu+11 October 2003 - 08:00--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (mogadishu &#064; 11 October 2003 - 08:00)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-adamp2p@11 October 2003 - 01:47
Dude, those are example of CPUs without HEATSINKS&#33; No wonder they fried, dude&#33;
yea, but the p4s didnt.. and things get knocked off. [/b][/quote]
Don&#39;t sit there and wait for the heatsink to fall off there, my friend...that might be too suspenseful...

lynx
10-11-2003, 11:34 AM
Yes, heatsinks do fall off occasionally, but the suggestion that you should have to check your heatsink once a month is pure scaremongering and mischief-making.

I&#39;ve known heatsinks fall off 3 times in my long experiences with systems that needed them, and they were all on Intel machines. It&#39;s no wonder they need extra thermal protection if their heatsinks fall off all the time.

Did you notice the temp the P4 was running at with the heatsink removed? 29C. And what temp do P4&#39;s normally run at? About the same temp I believe. So how much throttling back is taking place that we don&#39;t know about? Maybe that&#39;s the real reason Amd keep beating Intel in the performance stakes - maybe Intel&#39;s 2.4GHz processors are being automatically throttled back to 2GHz or less.

mogadishu
10-11-2003, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by lynx@11 October 2003 - 06:34
Yes, heatsinks do fall off occasionally, but the suggestion that you should have to check your heatsink once a month is pure scaremongering and mischief-making.

I&#39;ve known heatsinks fall off 3 times in my long experiences with systems that needed them, and they were all on Intel machines. It&#39;s no wonder they need extra thermal protection if their heatsinks fall off all the time.

Did you notice the temp the P4 was running at with the heatsink removed? 29C. And what temp do P4&#39;s normally run at? About the same temp I believe. So how much throttling back is taking place that we don&#39;t know about? Maybe that&#39;s the real reason Amd keep beating Intel in the performance stakes - maybe Intel&#39;s 2.4GHz processors are being automatically throttled back to 2GHz or less.
yes, but thats a good thing. wouldnt u rather have your cpu throttle back than go up in smoke?

bigdawgfoxx
10-11-2003, 06:05 PM
That first deal you saw with the Asus Mobo and the 2500+ is awesome&#33; i would get it in a heart beat&#33; leaves u 100 bux for ram&#33;&#33;&#33;...you can easiily get 512MB with that&#33;

lynx
10-11-2003, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by mogadishu@11 October 2003 - 16:54
yes, but thats a good thing. wouldnt u rather have your cpu throttle back than go up in smoke?
If I had a processor that was throttling back in normal use, I would want it to go up in smoke so that I could go out and get one that ran at full speed all the time.

Heatsinks only fall off if they are badly designed or not fitted properly in the first place.