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Detale
11-25-2009, 01:43 AM
Ok so I know it seems shallow but I neeeeed some black ram. (DDR2 1066) around $100 for 4 gigs max) I returned some unneeded stuff and I have a store credit ;)

I'm looking at these three (unless someone has another suggestion)

Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 4GB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146785)

CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145256)

or
OCZ Reaper HPC 4GB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227289)



Opinions at all?

clocker
11-25-2009, 02:04 AM
I wouldn't touch Mushkin.
It's a shame...they're local to me and I used to deal with them direct (still have a stash of Mushkin promotional material around somewhere) but about five years ago the product went to shit and wasn't compatible with hardly anything.

Of the three you list, I'd go with OCZ.

And yes, it IS shallow.
But I understand...otherwise I'd recommend my personal fave, Patriot.

Detale
11-25-2009, 02:47 AM
I did look at the patriot this one to be specific

Patriot Gamer Series 4GB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220439)

but it only has 1 review on Newegg so I wasn't sure about it.

EDIT: just saw these

Patriot Viper II 4GB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220426)

S!X
11-25-2009, 03:07 AM
Of the three you list, I'd go with OCZ.

And yes, it IS shallow.
But I understand...otherwise I'd recommend my personal fave, Patriot.

OCZ is pretty good stuff, haven't had any problems with my pc3200 stuff. They have a good warranty & customer support as well.

FreakinWeasel
11-25-2009, 03:10 AM
Corsair is industry standard and trusted by millions of users. I would go for that.

Cabalo
11-25-2009, 03:12 AM
One question, probably a stupid one: are you going to use those mems to OC ? Or are you going to use them at default settings?
This is what makes all the difference when picking ram.

Detale
11-25-2009, 05:30 AM
I would say a light oc C

Cabalo
11-25-2009, 06:15 AM
If you're going for a light OC, then go for the cheapest ones.
The price really comes into play when you want to achieve certain goals in OC, which are dependable on how far you can push their FSB. For light OC, any of the current chips will do. Hell, I even used transcend cheapo sticks to OC a celeron dual core from 1.6ghz to 2.9ghz. (OK, i used a divider, but nevertheless... )

Snee
11-25-2009, 02:01 PM
I'd go with the dominators out of those. Although that's mostly because it's the only brand out of those I've had much experience with. And last I looked Corsair did have the ram OC world record (not that that matters much, but still).

If you're not gonna OC much you could always go with xms2 for DDR2, though, the cheaper ones with the plain black hs. Those are really good value, IMO.

I put some into a build a while back and have no complaints.

Currently using twelve gigs (6x2GB) of XMS3 (DDR3) as well, and they're prime- and occt-stable with tighter timings (8-8-8-22 instead of 9-9-9-24) and a very mild OC at stock voltage. Very happy with them.

EDit: Never go with a shit brand if there are options from a decent manufacturer within your budget range, btw, even if it means paying a little more. There's always at least a measure of quality control you can rely on if it's corsair or patriot or whatever, even if it's their most low-budget option.

Detale
11-25-2009, 11:47 PM
Clocker, why would you recommend Patriot, just curious like.

clocker
11-26-2009, 12:30 AM
I've used it in over ten builds now...it always works, it's relatively cheap and, in my own PC, it has overclocked very well.

Like most of my recommendations, the Patriot is based on personal experience.
This doesn't mean I don't like Corsair, just that I've never used it myself.
My buddy Eric likes the OCZ that he has (sorry, no clue about specifics), so I would recommend it with a caveat.

peat moss
11-26-2009, 04:23 AM
I have the OCZ Reaper I liked the idea of the heat pipes , I only paid $75 .00 CDN tho .

peat moss
11-27-2009, 02:35 AM
I was playing around with Sis Sandra and CPUz to read my memory clock speed and was a little confused why mine reads 800 MHz not 1066 ?

Found a interesting thread on memory tho ,called memory assessment speed using CMD prompt .

Here :

http://www.sevenforums.com/performance-maintenance/5400-whats-your-memory-assessment-speed.html

Detale
11-27-2009, 08:17 AM
You most likely have to set it to 1066 and up the voltage to 2.1 I had to do this with all my Gskill memory on my gigabyte boards (3 sets of each)

peat moss
11-28-2009, 01:25 AM
@ Delale , thank you for the info . I have a Asus P5K SE , I'll search that out . :)

Detale
11-28-2009, 02:37 AM
Well what kind of ram do you have bud?

MadIrish
11-28-2009, 03:28 AM
Ok so I know it seems shallow but I neeeeed some black ram. (DDR2 1066) around $100 for 4 gigs max) I returned some unneeded stuff and I have a store credit ;)

I'm looking at these three (unless someone has another suggestion)

Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 4GB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146785)

CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145256)

or
OCZ Reaper HPC 4GB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227289)



Opinions at all?

I'd say the OCZ myself, I have those exact same sticks and they've been very sound with quite a hefty overclock.

peat moss
11-28-2009, 04:43 AM
Well what kind of ram do you have bud?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227289

I tried the ram 1066 setting and the voltage but " Blue Screen " was what I got . Its not a biggie ,was just playing around .Thank god I write down what changes I made to Bios settings .

Thinking my mobo may not support changes ? Funny tho as I found a site that was Asus specific . Running Win7 64 and quite happy but bumped memory to 8 gb and maybe thought I'd see some earth shattering improvement . :D Hey all is good but why not fart around ? ;)

http://forums.hexus.net/hexus-hardware/110267-c2d-overclocking-guide-beginners-p5k-add.html

clocker
11-28-2009, 05:53 AM
I think the biggest bang-per-dollar improvement will come not from running slightly faster RAM but from speeding up the storage- specifically the hard drive access time, which means solid state.

I too run 8GB and can't see much- if any- difference when the CPU and RAM are overclocked compared to the bump when run in RAID0 or on my SSD.
It's nice to have that much memory since it means you can eliminate RAM from consideration...and memory has been so cheap there was no reason not to go nuts.

Beyond a certain point though, RAM quantity- and even quality- ceases to be a bottleneck and one must look elsewhere for improvements that can actually be noticed.
I think storage access time is that metric.

peat moss
11-28-2009, 04:36 PM
You hit the nail on the head , Clocker . I see that under Windows Experience Index , I have 7.1 To 7.6 scores but Disk Data transfer rate is only 5.8 bringing down my score .

Snee
11-28-2009, 04:52 PM
You hit the nail on the head , Clocker . I see that under Windows Experience Index , I have 7.1 To 7.6 scores but Disk Data transfer rate is only 5.8 bringing down my score .

I've got a 7.6 on hd performance, with two striped ssds, and not slow ones either.

I'm a bit surprised my hd performance isn't maxed out, but I guess it might be the storage drive bringing it down. Either way, if you get one or two, feel free to tell me your score. I was thinking maybe I need to tweak something.

Detale
11-29-2009, 06:53 AM
Well what kind of ram do you have bud?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227289

I tried the ram 1066 setting and the voltage but " Blue Screen " was what I got . Its not a biggie ,was just playing around .Thank god I write down what changes I made to Bios settings .

Thinking my mobo may not support changes ? Funny tho as I found a site that was Asus specific . Running Win7 64 and quite happy but bumped memory to 8 gb and maybe thought I'd see some earth shattering improvement . :D Hey all is good but why not fart around ? ;)

http://forums.hexus.net/hexus-hardware/110267-c2d-overclocking-guide-beginners-p5k-add.html


Great link man. Did you try 2.1 and 2.2 voltage on your ram? Also did you manually set the timings to 5-5-5-18? Usually if you can change your settings it means your board will support it. What board do you have?

Snee what SSD's do you have? I think I'm going to wait until after Xmas to get one, maybe 2 ;)

clocker
11-29-2009, 03:01 PM
You hit the nail on the head , Clocker . I see that under Windows Experience Index , I have 7.1 To 7.6 scores but Disk Data transfer rate is only 5.8 bringing down my score .

I've got a 7.6 on hd performance, with two striped ssds, and not slow ones either.

I'm a bit surprised my hd performance isn't maxed out, but I guess it might be the storage drive bringing it down. Either way, if you get one or two, feel free to tell me your score. I was thinking maybe I need to tweak something.
Wow, I want.

I think it's likely that MS adjusted the scoring algorithm to allow for advances in hardware. When first introduced in Vista, it was possible to max out the Experience Index with current hardware, so when new stuff came out there was nowhere to go with the score.

peat moss
11-29-2009, 04:17 PM
@ Detale , the link I posted is my Mobo and CPU , that's what I found so interesting . Asus P5K SE and Intel Q6600 , but timings for ram is already 5 5 5 18 in Sissoft Sandra .

Detale
11-29-2009, 05:29 PM
Yours as in you took those pics?

peat moss
11-29-2009, 07:26 PM
Yours as in you took those pics?

No same set up .

Detale
12-01-2009, 12:39 AM
OK so then did you try both 2.1 and 2.2 voltages when you set it to 1066?

peat moss
12-01-2009, 01:42 AM
No , think I'll just leave well enough alone .

Detale
12-01-2009, 04:52 AM
Thats cool man. i'm holding off on new ram for a bit as I don't "need" it really it was an aesthetic thing and I'm fighting the urge.

S!X
12-01-2009, 05:48 AM
Thats cool man. i'm holding off on new ram for a bit as I don't "need" it really it was an aesthetic thing and I'm fighting the urge.

I don't see why G-skill 1000 ram is so hideous that you'd need to swap it out for something else. ;)

http://www.degeneratepoker.com/e8500/g_skill_ddr2_1000_small.jpg

clocker
12-01-2009, 12:11 PM
I'm fighting the urge.
If you need some pointers about fighting urges, watch Twilight.

Detale
12-01-2009, 02:02 PM
:D clocker, did you use those ramsinks for anything yet?

Six, they're not hideous I just wanted them to look snappy in my new build because it's black/white themed. (which has been on hold for a godamn week now due to various reasons)

clocker
12-01-2009, 02:07 PM
No...want 'em back?

Detale
12-02-2009, 01:59 AM
LOL, na man. I just love to see what you do with stuff like that. In case you didn't know you're like my idol. :ghey:

clocker
12-02-2009, 02:40 AM
A difficult burden to bear...I am unworthy.

Not unappreciative mind you, just unworthy.

S!X
12-02-2009, 03:15 AM
Six, they're not hideous I just wanted them to look snappy in my new build because it's black/white themed. (which has been on hold for a godamn week now due to various reasons)

Ah, I see... well in that case I'd go with the OCZ reapers :01:

Detale
12-02-2009, 06:29 AM
As I said I'm going to hold off. I am going to be using the Corsair Ram cooler so you can't even really see them much and to get 8 gigs it'll be about $200 not a huge deal but now these damn SSD clerics have me thinking about getting 2 of those to raid. so the $200 would go towards that then.

Any advice on a SSD at all anyone?

Snee
12-03-2009, 04:47 PM
Snee what SSD's do you have? I think I'm going to wait until after Xmas to get one, maybe 2 ;)
A pair of Corsair X32s. I got them to use just for my OS, the idea was to get a pair of striped velociraptors for games, but I ended up using a greenpower WD 1TB drive, whilst waiting for single platter WD Blacks to hit the market. There's no real logic behind that, except that I really like doing raid arrays of different kinds.

If I was getting some SSDs now I'd get X128s or P64s, though. The P-series are all the same speed, whereas the sub-128GB X-series are somewhat slower. (The X32s have the indilinx controller though, which should may mean the performance degradation is slower, and they will have TRIM support with a future firmware update.)

I like Corsair, me, that's the real motivation behind getting those drives in particular.

EDit: (You may wanna check out the latest Intel drives as well.) And look at this. (http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3631) It's a few months old, but may be worth a read.