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I've been looking at internal TB drives as I'm in the market to purchase one in a day or two. However, I'm noticing quite a few sites that don't list drive RPM speeds.
For example, I found this (http://www.frys.com/product/5933104) drive at my local Fry's but with barely any specs listed at all. I Googled the model number and found a link to Samsungs website. Surely they would have the specs listed, right? Nope.
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/hdd/productmodel.do?type=61&subtype=78&model_cd=440#
I'd like to buy the drive but, not if it's a 5400 RPMer. Am I missing something?
No, I don't think you are.
If you look at the equivalent Spinpoint F (HD103UJ) which has a stated rotational speed of 7200rpm you see that the average latency is 4.17ms.
Compare that with the drive you looked at and you see that the average latency is 5.52ms.
7200 x 4.17 / 5.52 = 5439
It will use (marginally) less power at 5400rpm which allows them to put it in the Ecogreen bracket, but more likely it is simply that something doesn't meet the tolerances required to run reliably at 7200rpm
Detale
12-02-2009, 06:55 PM
Pretty sure this (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152173) is your drive on Newegg and it has it listed as 5400 bud
Thanks for that, fellows.
Could you recommend a good TB drive that I can use for backups? I'll be backing up 250GB of music, some apps, maybe some other media, etc...
I'd like to buy two of them as I could use the extra space to begin with. That being said, I'd like to watch the price a bit.
Are they all pretty much the same? Should I just pick out a SATA, 32MB cache, 1 TB, 7200RPM drive of any major brand name and then just find the lowest price?
Detale
12-02-2009, 11:42 PM
I'd say go with Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148433)I have 2 of them and I bought one for a friend and haven't had a problem at all. also it has a decent Newegg rating and the price isn't too bad either
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148433)
MadIrish
12-03-2009, 06:25 AM
The earlier mentioned Samsung F1's are also very solid drives imo; fast, quiet and reliable.
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F1 HD103UJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152102)
Bought.
edit... :pinch:
The Seagate one. I came here to post and madirish slipped in right before me.
I saw that Samsung one as well. I already have a Seagate and it's run well for several years now so I just stuck with that brand. Thanks for the input tho'.
Bought.
edit... :pinch:
The Seagate one. I came here to post and madirish slipped in right before me.
I saw that Samsung one as well. I already have a Seagate and it's run well for several years now so I just stuck with that brand. Thanks for the input tho'.
Great series of drives. I have 2 of the 500 GB 7200.12 running in raid 0, works like a charm. No problems, completely silent, drives (and previous gens, ie 7200.11/10) have never failed on me.
Now if I could only get my ATI cards to not sound like a fricking jet engine...
Detale
12-04-2009, 02:16 PM
Water cool 'em! ;)
Bought.
edit... :pinch:
The Seagate one. I came here to post and madirish slipped in right before me.
I saw that Samsung one as well. I already have a Seagate and it's run well for several years now so I just stuck with that brand. Thanks for the input tho'.
The seagate one you picked is nice. That and Samsung's F3 are both built around 500GB platters and I've been looking at them for a while. I've got a WD 1TB Greenpower* like that, but it's slower.
Decided on WD blacks, though, but right now you still can't be sure which drive you're getting with a WD black, there are both single and dual platter 500GB drives about with the same model number :dabs:
*Aka the mystery-RPM series, choked somewhere between 5400 and 7200.
SonsOfLiberty
12-07-2009, 12:36 AM
I have dual WD MyBooks (the black ones), a 500GB and 1TB both stable and run pretty quick on Win7, just using standard USB 2.0, external though, but they are great for backing up, just have a dual setup up of shitty internals, since I never store anything on them (partition them as well) and I can just plug and play with them....will be adding another TB soon, and will be getting a internal 1TB or bigger and dumping my old duals, but I will stay with WD nothing but good luck here with them.
MadIrish
12-08-2009, 02:58 AM
Now if I could only get my ATI cards to not sound like a fricking jet engine...
If you ever do, please let me know how ;)
I've been debating this - http://www.quietpc.com/gb-en-gbp/products/ultragrade/ac-acc-xtreme-4870x2, not so much for the heat as the noise reduction. Problem is I bought a top end card to last and I really can't afford to break it after less than 18 months :lol:
Detale
12-08-2009, 02:17 PM
You can adjust the fan speed in catalyst guys. The ATI in my HTPC doesn't sound bad at all. This (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102770) is my card.
Seems to be running fine, and quiet. Silent actually.
Transferred over 220GB of music in 40 minutes. I thought it was going to take a lot longer than that. :huh:
Detale
12-09-2009, 06:20 AM
Skiz did you run any HDD tests at all? I use sisoft sandra now and like it alot.
MadIrish
12-09-2009, 06:35 AM
You can adjust the fan speed in catalyst guys. The ATI in my HTPC doesn't sound bad at all. This (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102770) is my card.
Is that a reference cooler?
I've tried messing with the fan speed in catalyst, and with custom profiles, and I've come to the conclusion that the reference 4870x2 just has a pathetic fan system/design . Its the one big flaw with ATI's top end cards, especially the dual gpu ones, which I notice they still haven't fixed with the new 5970 (why's that not 5870x2?) - see bottom of this review (http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews.php?reviewid=890&pageid=23)
Seems to be running fine, and quiet. Silent actually.
Transferred over 220GB of music in 40 minutes. I thought it was going to take a lot longer than that. :huh:
That does seem pretty fast. :)
Skiz did you run any HDD tests at all? I use sisoft sandra now and like it alot.
What would I be testing it for? :unsure:
I just had to post about this.
This thread started out as me looking for a TB drive to utilize as a backup. I have 215GB of music as well as various folders I don't want to loose (everything from college, various PSDs, etc).
I started doing backups two Monday's ago I believe. Today, when I got back into town and fired up my PC, there was a lot of clicking noise coming from computer, and now the original drive isn't showing up in My Computer.
Talk about good timing... :O
Detale
12-27-2009, 04:59 AM
Damn man thats great. It's very rare to hear a success story about a HDD going bad. Glad it was you bro ;)
alpharomiyo
12-27-2009, 05:28 AM
go for a Western Digital Caviar Black ... I have it --
its faster than the Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 interms of rotational latency
both have the same seek latency
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