Spartacus :Blood and Sex ..I mean Sand

[IdolEyes787]

Totally a waste of time - sort of a hodgepodge of Glatiator,300 and Caligula with the fight scenes strangely being the least compelling part.
Notable for the over the top violence, badly out of place expletives, explicit nudity and not much else.

Overall I'd give it a 4/10
The over-use and blatant ripoff of the 300 slow-mo monochromatic violence highlighted by the bright red splatter of blood started off old and got irritating very quickly - a case of style over( and instead of) real tension.
Also not much about the character Spartacus to cheer for at this point other than he has an incredibly hot wife who like every other woman (and man - yes there is male full frontal) loses her clothes( and has sex ) at every opportunity.

That fact along with getting to finally see Lucy Lawless's tits is basically ( at this time) my sole reason to continue watching.
Shallow yes but there are worse ways to spend my time than watching beautiful women getting naked.
Heroes for example.

[Totti]

Naked Hollywood actresses always are a good reason for watching a shit move :)

[IdolEyes787]

It's a series

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1442449/

and it's already been greenlit for a second season without even one episode aired yet.

[Totti]

A shame that shit like that is on Tv and yet Jericho was taken off the air!

[IdolEyes787]

They made the mistake of not getting Ashley Scott naked.If they had it would have been good for another year or two.:rolleyes:

yHxn8mTpAJU

[Totti]

I agree with you a total rip off of 300 and Gladiator shallow....

[pone44]

I didn't see Spartacus Blood and Sand. :P
It does look like a rip off of 300, HBO's Rome and The Tudors all in one.


I'll give the first few episodes a chance. There is nothing else to watch on Sunday or Monday nights.

[Cabalo]

Not bad for a 41 year old...

http://www.celebstudio.net/greatfakes/fake-lucy_lawless-484-preacher.jpg
She Wishes...

[Carnios]

I loved Rome. 300 and gladiator were good too, so I'll be giving it a try for sure.

Downloading it now. :)

[CVSTOS]

Yep it looked good. Will see on 22.01.2010 :)

[pentomato]

it looks more like a game than a movie

[jhowar4]

Saw the first two episodes...seriously those Romans are like rabbits. Sex for celebration, Sex just cause, even Sex while having an idle chat.

[Cabalo]

Sex for celebration, Sex just cause, even Sex while having an idle chat.
ah, those were the times :smoke:

[megabyteme]

Violence, sex, nudity, men in tight leather (er..I mean, men with swords and bulging muscles fighting and getting dirty and sweaty) and conquering other men evil.

Looks fuckin' awesome watchable.

[IdolEyes787]

(http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=beard)Sometimes a sword isn't just a sword .

Mrs MBM


(http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=beard)Coincidentally to Spartacus Erin Cummings and Lucy Lawless co-star in this.

(http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=beard)http://www.bitchslapmovie.com/

(http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=beard)Sex sells and I'm buying.
(http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=beard)

[megabyteme]

:lol:

I guess my twins will be goatees...:P

[iLOVENZB]

You have a fan club IdolEyes787

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1442449/board/nest/154504170
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1442449/board/nest/155539914

[clocker]

Coincidentally to Spartacus Erin Cummings and Lucy Lawless co-star in this.

http://www.bitchslapmovie.com/

Xena is in there for about 45 seconds and even knowing when to look, is almost unrecognizable.
There are other attractions however and I thought Bitch Slap was great.

[Carnios]

It's a good show so far. We'll see if it can live up to Rome.

[IdolEyes787]

There are other attractions however and I thought Bitch Slap was great.

I enjoyed the way the story was sort of told in reverse but otherwise I didn't like it anywhere as much as I thought I would.This is a bit of a horndog comment but it was a cop-out to promote/center the whole thing on the ( considerable ) sex appeal of the leads and then never as a film ( except for the violence) never get past first base.

On the whole it reminded me of Sin City just with bigger breasts and even less point.

[MagicNakor]

On the whole it reminded me of Sin City just with bigger breasts and even less point.

Damning indeed.

:shuriken:

[brightsid]

Just watched the first 2 eps. Well you are right, although naked women are more interesting than Heroes there is a big BUT. Rome had naked women but it was historical accurate. Just hope there are more new ladies coming next weeks

[Aggvispen]

I will give a couple of episodes and then deside if I'm gona continue to watch it or not. Hard to deside right now to be honest.

[Canuck604]

I love this show although its historical accuracy is well ... "Look a naked chick"!

[iLOVENZB]

Just watched the trailer, reminds me of Gladiator/300. Might wait for better sources to download.

[mr. nails]

so, i finally made it thru the 1st episode. took 4 tries. i hate the dialog, the over use of the slow mo is badly done (too repetitive) and i can't say i like the acting either. the only good thing that's came out of this so far is that i felt like playing Titan Quest as soon as he put on that helmet of his.

while i don't mind tits in my movies using them to sell this series isn't something that's gonna save it imo. i could just watch porn. so far i've watched ep1 & 2. i thought 2 was the better episode, but the show has to start somewhere? i guess i'll watch episode 3 now and see wtf. lol, mostly so i can move it out of my "to watch" folder.

edit*

episode 3 was ok for this series. i'm still not used to the silly blood cg effects tho. best part of ep3 was when blond gladiator dude was told to fuck sum chic. if i was ever pulled out of formation and "told" to fuck sum chic that woulda been a nice treat.

[iLOVENZB]

Most TV shows=Shit CGI.

[Sanka113]

Yeah the first episode was funny in a bad way. The second and third episodes toned the action a bit, making it less over-the-top than in the first episode. As long as they continue to develop the story, and have sensible action scenes, I'll stick with it.

[hoodevil]

I love the sex and violence in this tv serie.

[TraLaLa]

the latest episode was pretty damn good

[mr. nails]

season 1 is over and i thought it was pretty damn good minus the 1st episode. not sure if i just wasn't ready for this series or i didn't like it for other reasons, but it ended quite well. it's too bad that Andy Whitfield was diagnosed with non-Hodgkins Lymphoma. seeing how of his misfortune season 2 is delayed indefinitely. plans of a prequel series is in talks, but other than that it may be over for the champion.

[IdolEyes787]

Yeah I was totally wrong with the initial impression.The producers themselves even went as far as to say that they had little time to prepare and the first episode was more of an experiment than anything.
Anyway somewhere along the line it turn into a pretty great series with a truly compelling story to tell.
The finale sort of underwhelmed me though which is surprising ,or maybe due to the fact ,that I was looking forward to it so much.

I was really shocked that they killed of Batiatus since both according to historical accounts and the movie he survived to play a major role in things later.
As for Spartacus' final fate who knows since history is pretty vague on that one.

[TBDown]

it's Great See the Blood Feel in the Arena and watch alot of sex
but the next season call revenge (i hope see mira Again)
by the way (spartacus actor have cancer now So maybe the Next season may late)

[kiemcun]

I hope see Aurelia again :x

[hoodevil]

I hope see Aurelia again :x

yes, but naked.

[Que]

I hope see Aurelia again :x

yes, but naked.+1

Hope the next season will be as good as the first one, one of the best tv-series i've seen in a long time... perhaps even better than stargate: universe :)

[huncky]

A shame that shit like that is on Tv and yet Jericho was taken off the air!


exactly my friend

[iLOVENZB]

I've only seen the first two episodes and found it historically inaccurate, over dramatized and no real plot. Did the episodes improve over the season?

[IdolEyes787]

The producers themselves admit that the first episode wasn't all that they wanted it to be.It was apparently quickly shot with little pre-production due to the network looking to get the series on the air as soon as possible ( hence the overly done "300' effects and lack of character development).

Really though the whole thing takes about 4 -6 episodes to get going so if you aren't prepared to hang in there for that long you might as well quit right now.
Btw others may have a different opinion but as much as I ended up enjoying the series I thought the finale sort of sucked and looking at "historical fact" I can't see next year possibly being as good as this one.

[Beeker]

i enjoyed this series i hope they make season 2

[yoco]

It was damn good first season. Yea, maybe they overdid it with the blood thing, but overall it was very good, and looking forward to season 2.

[mr. nails]

there is NO 2nd season and if there ever will be it's a LONG way off.

as for the prequel to the 1st season it starts shooting this summer and is scheduled to air january 2011 for a 6 part episode.

[iLOVENZB]

nails doesnt one of the characters got cancer?

[MagicNakor]

The main guy (Andy Whitfield/Spartacus) has non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, so they've delayed the shooting of the second season.

:shuriken:

[iLOVENZB]

/me waits for rips of Spartacus.Blood.And.Sand.S01

[sharemore]

good tv show.

[Nufek]

I would consider this as one of the best series I've ever seen :D

[IdolEyes787]

Update on Whitfield and Spartacus .Sad news all around.

From Deadline Hollywood and originating network Starz

'Spartacus' Star Andy Whitfield's Cancer Is Back: Won't Return Next Season To Series

"This shocking news that he needs aggressive treatment for a recurrence of cancer was made public today by Starz cable network and the Spartacus: Blood and Sand star himself, Andy Whitfield. He was first diagnosed with treatable Stage 1 non-Hodgkin lymphoma in early March. But recently the actor had been in remission and training hard for Season 2. He even attended the Spartacus panel at Comic-Con where he said he felt "better than ever". His first diagnosis put production on hold for the next season while he underwent treatment. He was given a clean bill of health in May. To bridge the two seasons of Spartacus, Starz greenlighted the prequel Spartacus: Gods of the Arena, which is now filming in New Zealand and will premiere in January as planned. However, the future of the mothership series is unclear. Production on the second season was supposed to start soon. Here is the network's statement:

Andy Whitfield, star of Starz's "Spartacus: Blood and Sand," has been advised by his doctors to immediately resume aggressive treatment for a recurrence of cancer, as a result of which he will not be returning for the series' second season, which was tentatively set to air in September 2011.
"It's with a deep sense of disappointment that I must step aside from such an exceptional project as Spartacus and all the wonderful people involved. It seems that it is time for myself and my family to embark on another extraordinary journey. Thank you sincerely for the support so far," said Whitfield.
"Our hearts and prayers are with Andy and his family during this difficult time," said Starz President and CEO Chris Albrecht. "Andy is not only an incredible actor whose portrayal of Spartacus made an indelible impression on Starz audiences, he is also an amazing human being whose courage, strength, and grace in the face of adversity have inspired all of us."
No decisions have yet been made about the future of the series. "Right now, we just want to extend our concern and support to Andy and his family," said Carmi Zlotnik, Managing Director, Starz Media. "We will address our programming plans at some later date."
Starz still plans to air the prequel to Spartacus: Blood and Sand in January 2011. Entitled Spartacus: Gods of the Arena, it focuses on the House of Batiatus before Spartacus arrives in Capua and stars returning cast members John Hannah, Lucy Lawless, Peter Mensah and Manu Bennett, along with newcomer Dustin Clare.

[nye]

This series is absolutely epic, so freaking masculine. Bummer about the actor. Looking forward to the prequel in January though.

[iLOVENZB]

Might be a little short without Andy Whitfield ;).

How are they going to do the prequel?

[Disme]

I watched the first ep and was really disgusted with this series!!!

The acting was like yek, special effects like an extreme low-budget movie, bad 300- and/or Rome-clone ...

It was really awfull ... Xena-Warrior-slut was prolly even better (although I didn't watch that either).

Yes, yes, yes ... I read that it gets better in the 5 other pages of this post, but I doubt I will be able to keep watching for 5 or 6 eps untill it gets 'better'.

[IdolEyes787]

Might be a little short without Andy Whitfield ;).

How are they going to do the prequel?

It's suppose to be a six-part prequel focusing on the "House of Batiatus" and the Ludus before Spartacus arrived with John Hannah ( Batiatus), Lucy Lawless(Lucretia) being the stars. Other returning actors include Peter Mensah (Doctore), Manu Bennett (Crixus), Antonio Te Maioha (Barca), Nick E. Tarabay (Ashur), Lesley-Ann Brandt (Naevia) ." New characters –most notably the gladiator who was champion of the House of Batiatus before Spartacus or even Crixus – who will help fill in the story about the people and politics in the House of Batiatus and ancient Capua as a whole".

Of course that may all change now with Andy Whitfield no longer being able to continue as planned.I doubt if they with shelve the show entirely though seeing as it was the best preforming series ever for Starz and "the highest rated show for the 18-49 demographic among all cable networks for 12 of the 13 Fridays on which it aired " .Money talks as they say.


Read more: Spartacus Prequel to Start Shooting this Summer - ComingSoon.net (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=65899#ixzz10p2PhS6g) http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=65899#ixzz10p2PhS6g


Obviously this teaser was just pasted together from existing footage but at least it gives you some sense of the thing and who is going to be predominately featured.
(http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=65899#ixzz10p0gTpld)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB_H3HyosCA

[nye]

From what I understand, the prequel will be airing in January and is well under way in production. The "second" series remains postponed, as it has been for some months now.

[gravey]

It is not a bad show, but I really hated all those silly blood effects, it relaly took away from the show itself IMO. It took a while for me to get into it by the 4th episode I was hooked.

I know it is different shows but I still loved Rome on Hbo 10x better then Spartacus.

[nye]

Totally disagree. I thought the ridiculous blood effects and slow motion all tied very neatly into the general crudeness of the show...I think we all know what I mean by that.

[iLOVENZB]

Biography?

OMGWTFROFLMOAF!!!

[IdolEyes787]

Biography?

OMGWTFROFLMOAF!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biography

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartacus

He said biography not documentary.

[[Cod3]Flush3R]

I saw the full season. A waste of time....full of total nudity.

[IdolEyes787]

I saw the full season. A waste of time....full of total nudity.

I'm sorry but it's either a waste of time or full of nudity ,I don't really think that it can be both.

[iLOVENZB]

^^^ Perv :eyebrows:

Anyway, my boxset came yesterday. So far I've only watched Disc 1. I can feel the pace picking up after the 3rd episode. Acting still hasn't improved. We'll see what happens as the episodes progress.

Erin Cummings ... :blink:

[IdolEyes787]

^^^ Perv :eyebrows:

Anyway, my boxset came yesterday. So far I've only watched Disc 1. I can feel the pace picking up after the 3rd episode. Acting still hasn't improved. We'll see what happens as the episodes progress.

Erin Cummings ... :blink:

Ironic thing is that I'm hardly what you would consider a porn guy . I just find it mildly offensive the way that a lot of US shows sell sex but hypocritically cocktease it the whole time so as not to enrage ( or lose the ad revenue from) the holier than thou, blood is OK but skin isn't , Middle American ,gun-toting, kill the bastards if they don't agree with us , zealots.( Not that you were being serious )

As for Erin Cummings ever seen Bitch Slap ? Kind of interesting in an unhinged Tarantino sort of way and I believe that clocker gave it a thumbs up.

[Snee]

^^^ Perv :eyebrows:

Anyway, my boxset came yesterday. So far I've only watched Disc 1. I can feel the pace picking up after the 3rd episode. Acting still hasn't improved. We'll see what happens as the episodes progress.

Erin Cummings ... :blink:

Ironic thing is that I'm hardly what you would consider a porn guy . I just find it mildly offensive the way that a lot of US shows sell sex but hypocritically cocktease it the whole time so as not to enrage ( or lose the ad revenue from) the holier than thou, blood is OK but skin isn't , Middle American ,gun-toting, kill the bastards if they don't agree with us , zealots.( Not that you were being serious )

As for Erin Cummings ever seen Bitch Slap ? Kind of interesting in an unhinged Tarantino sort of way and I believe that clocker gave it a thumbs up.

He would, fan of the mindless action flick that he is.


As for Spartacus, I've seen the first season, and up to episode V of the prequel.

The good:

*Lucy Lawless nearly being a serious actress.
*Hot chix with noods.
*I can actually imagine that ancient Rome might have been that way, wrt the value they put on human lives, and the intriguing douchebags, not to mention the decadence. So, uhm, a measure of historical accuracy.

The bad:

*The terrible effects added to the fighting, mainly the blood splashes. That doesn't add to the credibility one iota.
*The writing. Who's bad and who's good sometimes feels very black and white. Although not all the time. And some of the situations people get into seem odd. But wtf do I know, I didn't exactly grow up in ancient Rome.
*Sometimes things seem to be written in purely for shock value. Shocking people is fine, but being obvious about it I don't particularily like

The funny:

*The roman english. I mean, I can see why they're doing it, or at least I think I do. Ie, they're trying to show a people who've adopted mannerisms that don't always ring true to their nature. But it often sounds silly.
*Batiatus. I mean, I'm not saying they casted him badly, but sometimes I forget myself and smile at who's saying all those things.
*How some characters are just too extreme to feel real.
*It makes me all varm and fuzzy inside thinking of all the moralfags who must be having aneurysms over the show.

I could go on, I suppose. But to sum it up, I quite like it. It's not the best thing I've seen by far, and if they do another turnabout and the second season gets cancelled, I'm not likely to miss it (ffs, they're gonna replace the actor playing the main character, if that's not a recipe for disaster I don't know what is), but it's watchable. For the women if nothing else.

[clocker]

So guys, if I say that I thought Rome was great, do you think I'd like this?

[IdolEyes787]

Hard to say as the two are definitely birds of a different feather.
Spartacus is like the gladiators portrayed within, all about the show and not overly concerned about making a mess in producing it .
Like Snee says more melodrama than rumination on ethics .

What if does have going for it besides the sex and violence is that the story charges ahead so briskly that you aren't given much time to worry about how silly the whole thing is.
Not an actor's series , not writer's series either, really more like Nascar with tits.

Anyway I think Rome was more or less a high point for this sort of thing, more interesting but less cerebral than I ,Claudius- F1 to Blood and Sands Nascar if you will .

Btw I've also watching the prequel and as I wrote on another site the fact that the series is so one-note ("Grr revenge.Jupiter's cawk you betrayed me .I'll be back to kill you just as soon as I have sex with that slave " ) , as entertaining as that one note may be is starting to show.

[clocker]

Hmm, maybe I'll give it another go.
Right after I inhaled Rome (in a two day marathon), I "obtained" Sparticus but only made it through half of the first episode.
Perhaps it's worth a second chance.

[IdolEyes787]

Hmm, maybe I'll give it another go.
Right after I inhaled Rome (in a two day marathon), I "obtained" Sparticus but only made it through half of the first episode.
Perhaps it's worth a second chance.

Everyone says the same thing that the show only really begins to kick in around the third episode .
The producers themselves admit that they didn't have sufficient prep time after being green-lit and that the first couple of episodes where more experimentation than finished product.
Anyway whether you want to invest that much time into something that you may end up not liking is entirely up to you.

[clocker]

Ill just start with episode 3 and see what happens.

[mr. nails]

imo, just start season 2 first and if u dig what's going on start season 1. doing this won't ruin anything and it will prob shape the story a lot better. also, the way season 2 is filmed it what season 1 shapes to be.

[iLOVENZB]

I enjoy watching one after the other instead of weekly intervals. I wait for the packs to come out.

Any news on when the Bluray of the prequel is set to be announced? Might look into getting a steel box if my purse allows me. [ See what I did there? ]

[Snee]

imo, just start season 2 first and if u dig what's going on start season 1. doing this won't ruin anything and it will prob shape the story a lot better. also, the way season 2 is filmed it what season 1 shapes to be.

So wait another six months or so, until season 2 starts airing? Oh, and what's the future like?



Hmm, maybe I'll give it another go.
Right after I inhaled Rome (in a two day marathon), I "obtained" Sparticus but only made it through half of the first episode.
Perhaps it's worth a second chance.

Everyone says the same thing that the show only really begins to kick in around the third episode .
The producers themselves admit that they didn't have sufficient prep time after being green-lit and that the first couple of episodes where more experimentation than finished product.
Anyway whether you want to invest that much time into something that you may end up not liking is entirely up to you.

I actually started off with the first four episodes of the prequel, which I downloaded on a whim. When I ran out of those I was hooked already.

Watching through the initial episodes wasn't much of a bother then, though it took me a while to like Spartacus himself as a character. But on the flipside, watching the prequel first gave Crixus a little depth. Like the man from the future above is probably trying to say, it gets better that way. Especially since the last episode of the prequel should be available any time now.

[iLOVENZB]

Part of me wishes they'd stuck with Spartacus having schizophrenia. The plot could have multiple twist and turns.

I just finished Disc 2, working my way through them and then re-watching the episodes that have commentary.

There was a lot of effort into editing that gets overlooked by viewers. For instance we all knew that most of the sets were in a studio with a green screen but did we know that the ludus training scenes were shot on different days to the dialogue scenes with Batiatus on the balcony?

It might not seem of importance to some but the time that had to go with setting the correct lighting and shadows so the two sets didn't look discombobulated must of been painstakingly tiresome.

[shipwreck]

Jupiter's cock, this was more entertaining than expected.

[Xon91]

Agreed, shipwreck. I totally loved this show no matter what you say OP.

[IdolEyes787]

Agreed, shipwreck. I totally loved this show no matter what you say OP.

I'm glad you didn't exceed my incredibly low expectations and bother to read the whole thread or anything. :mellow:

http://filesharingtalk.com/threads/386433-Spartacus-Blood-and-Sex-..I-mean-Sand?p=3437650&viewfull=1#post3437650

[hunt885]

i see it was good show
i loved it

[Snee]

Series the best +5. Enjoys!

[your_creator]

this is now one of my favorite shows "how he stares with his teeth"

[Xon91]

Agreed, shipwreck. I totally loved this show no matter what you say OP.

I'm glad you didn't exceed my incredibly low expectations and bother to read the whole thread or anything. :mellow:

http://filesharingtalk.com/threads/386433-Spartacus-Blood-and-Sex-..I-mean-Sand?p=3437650&viewfull=1#post3437650

Ya, sry =) I had not read the whole thread before my last post, but I have now :o
It's fun to see how everyone slaughters the first, and some, the second episode but then turn to love the show. :)

I just cant imagine a season w\o Andy Whitfield (will give it a try tho)
Watching the prequels right now and like stated earlier.. Watching these first would probably make season one even more awesome =)

[storm7]

i enjoyed this series and now i'm waiting for season2

[shipwreck]

Juno's cunt, 'Gods of the Arena' wasn't too shabby either.

Wonder how many seasons they can squeeze out of the the whole Spartacus story though.

[Frankthetank1]

So is the cancer patient better now?

[iLOVENZB]

No, to my knowledge Andy wasn't in Gods of the Arena.

[IdolEyes787]

No, to my knowledge Andy wasn't in Gods of the Arena.

The rumour of a cameo was not true and his "appearance" was limited to that of a ( previously shot) glimpse in the epilogue ( I think).

[vndiesel07]

I loved Rome. 300 and gladiator were good too, so I'll be giving it a try for sure.

I'm Downloading it now.

[IdolEyes787]

Sad news, the re-occurrence of cancer in Andy Whifield proved to much.

http://www.ivpressonline.com/entertainment/ktla-spartacus-star-andy-whitfield-dies,0,1519299.story

[mueller]

It was good except for the excessive porn

[IdolEyes787]

I congratulate you on your sensitivity.

[mueller]

lmao Im being serious I know it was common in that day and age and historically correct but cmon

[iLOVENZB]

cmon what? You expect them to be throwing pillows at each other?

[thebazzla]

Sad news, the re-occurrence of cancer in Andy Whifield proved to much.

http://www.ivpressonline.com/entertainment/ktla-spartacus-star-andy-whitfield-dies,0,1519299.storysad news indeed i thought he was terrific in Spartacus and i only watched one episode of Spartacus: Blood and Sand which i thought was dreadful BTW.

[iLOVENZB]

I thought the same bazz. I stuck with it though because all them Americans swore blind it was excellent. IT DID!!11! Stick with it until around the 3rd-4th ep, if you dont like it then ditch it.

Favourite ep would have to be "The Pits" episode.

[thebazzla]

i do know that it sometimes takes a while with all new series to get your interest ILOVENBZ. it had a few sticky episodes in it but don't most of them.but overall thought it had good potential.
i knew that the actor was suffering from cancer but didn't know how bad it was. and the second series was being put back all the time .
then they come up with the Spartacus: gods of the arena spin off which i thought was dreadful BTW.
i couldn't tell you anything about it as i stuck around for the 1st episode and ditched it big style

[IdolEyes787]

lmao Im being serious I know it was common in that day and age and historically correct but cmon

Your post being directly following ,I was referring to your insensitivity regarding Andy Whitfield's death.:mellow:

[mjmacky]

Your post being directly following ,I was referring to your insensitivity regarding Andy Whitfield's death.:mellow:

Who the fuck is Andy Whitfield?

[mr. nails]

Season 3 is still getting the go for as much as I know. Season 3 will be entitled, "Spartacus: Vengeance".

RIP Andy!

[Glod]

Spartacus had a razor sharp plot and brilliant acting. Yes, violence and sex featured prominently in the episodes, but what else would you expect within the training grounds for muscular, scantily clad men who fought for their only chance at freedom and were doted on by slave girls? That's right, sex and violence. However, if anyone believes those were the real heart of the story, they weren't paying attention. This was the story of a failure to tame the will of men, the consequences of greed and betrayal, the indomitable desire to be free at any cost; the allure of a roaring crowd, the death of a brother, the shame of a son and his seething rage towards his father; the twisting of friends into enemies and the eternal struggle for power and prosperity.

Spartacus is a story about life and its many brutalities. I would rank it as a personal favorite and a great victory of acting and storytelling. Dismissing it on account of sex and violence seems to be a cheap cop-out and reveals an inability to gaze underneath the surface of what appears at first glance to be yet another shallow series.

[IdolEyes787]

Spartacus had a razor sharp plot and brilliant acting. Yes, violence and sex featured prominently in the episodes, but what else would you expect within the training grounds for muscular, scantily clad men who fought for their only chance at freedom and were doted on by slave girls? That's right, sex and violence. However, if anyone believes those were the real heart of the story, they weren't paying attention. This was the story of a failure to tame the will of men, the consequences of greed and betrayal, the indomitable desire to be free at any cost; the allure of a roaring crowd, the death of a brother, the shame of a son and his seething rage towards his father; the twisting of friends into enemies and the eternal struggle for power and prosperity.

Spartacus is a story about life and its many brutalities. I would rank it as a personal favorite and a great victory of acting and storytelling. Dismissing it on account of sex and violence seems to be a cheap cop-out and reveals an inability to gaze underneath the surface of what appears at first glance to be yet another shallow series.

I hate to break it to you but it was a shallow series entirely about gratuitous sex and violence.The fact that some of the actors managed to imbibe it with a sense of something more is a testament to both their talent and their passion and not some loftier, imagined goal of the producers.
Seriously the guy did Dollhouse for God's sake.

[Glod]

Spartacus had a razor sharp plot and brilliant acting. Yes, violence and sex featured prominently in the episodes, but what else would you expect within the training grounds for muscular, scantily clad men who fought for their only chance at freedom and were doted on by slave girls? That's right, sex and violence. However, if anyone believes those were the real heart of the story, they weren't paying attention. This was the story of a failure to tame the will of men, the consequences of greed and betrayal, the indomitable desire to be free at any cost; the allure of a roaring crowd, the death of a brother, the shame of a son and his seething rage towards his father; the twisting of friends into enemies and the eternal struggle for power and prosperity.

Spartacus is a story about life and its many brutalities. I would rank it as a personal favorite and a great victory of acting and storytelling. Dismissing it on account of sex and violence seems to be a cheap cop-out and reveals an inability to gaze underneath the surface of what appears at first glance to be yet another shallow series.

I hate to break it to you but it was a shallow series entirely about gratuitous sex and violence.The fact that some of the actors managed to imbibe it with a sense of something more is a testament to both their talent and their passion and not some loftier, imagined goal of the producers.
Seriously the guy did Dollhouse for God's sake.

I mentioned nothing about producers, and we can at least agree upon the quality of the acting, though that wouldn't have been adequately demonstrated without an appropriately complex story. Each of the characters had motives that guided their actions, some of which led them into frequent disputes involving violence, but I don't recall any scene in which one of them committed an act of aggression simply for the sake of it. I consider Spartacus to be great for avoiding that trap and managing to provide understandable reasons for such actions. I've never heard of Dollhouse, and a work should be judged on its own merit, not previous works by the same creator.

[IdolEyes787]

I hate to break it to you but it was a shallow series entirely about gratuitous sex and violence.The fact that some of the actors managed to imbibe it with a sense of something more is a testament to both their talent and their passion and not some loftier, imagined goal of the producers.
Seriously the guy did Dollhouse for God's sake.

I mentioned nothing about producers, and we can at least agree upon the quality of the acting, though that wouldn't have been adequately demonstrated without an appropriately complex story. Each of the characters had motives that guided their actions, some of which led them into frequent disputes involving violence, but I don't recall any scene in which one of them committed an act of aggression simply for the sake of it. I consider Spartacus to be great for avoiding that trap and managing to provide understandable reasons for such actions. I've never heard of Dollhouse, and a work should be judged on its own merit, not previous works by the same creator.

I said some of the actors ,notably the lately passed Andy Whitfield. Most of the other actors portraying the other main characters range from John Hannah's passable Batiatus to seriously bad aka Lucy Lawless' Lucretia.Somewhere Shakespeare is rolling over in his grave becasue Lady Macbeth she ain't .

Anyway after perusing your other posts I assume you will disagree with what I wrote but as for Spartacus being more than just cable friendly pulp fiction as you seem to have a tendency to over-think things. Putting more meaning into them than the creator ever intended.Makes for ,I'm sure many the lively talk around the dinner table but as once said, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.:mellow:

Btw I'm not trying to disparage Spartacus which has a certain undeniable visceral appeal .To further desecrate literature - a cigar may be just a cigar but a good cigar is a smoke.

[Glod]

I mentioned nothing about producers, and we can at least agree upon the quality of the acting, though that wouldn't have been adequately demonstrated without an appropriately complex story. Each of the characters had motives that guided their actions, some of which led them into frequent disputes involving violence, but I don't recall any scene in which one of them committed an act of aggression simply for the sake of it. I consider Spartacus to be great for avoiding that trap and managing to provide understandable reasons for such actions. I've never heard of Dollhouse, and a work should be judged on its own merit, not previous works by the same creator.

I said some of the actors ,notably the lately passed Andy Whitfield. Most of the other actors portraying the other main characters range from John Hannah's passable Batiatus to seriously bad aka Lucy Lawless' Lucretia.Somewhere Shakespeare is rolling over in his grave becasue Lady Macbeth she ain't .

Anyway after perusing your other posts I assume you will disagree with what I wrote but as for Spartacus being more than just cable friendly pulp fiction as you seem to have a tendency to over-think things. Putting more meaning into them than the creator ever intended.Makes for ,I'm sure many the lively talk around the dinner table but as once said, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.:mellow:

Btw I'm not trying to disparage Spartacus which has a certain undeniable visceral appeal .To further desecrate literature - a cigar may be just a cigar but a good cigar is a smoke.

John Hannah had one of the more impressive performances, I thought. He could be downright vicious and succeeded in conveying a deep-seated resentment towards his father and anyone who set him back on the road to power and wealth. Even so, he dealt that lethal hand of his with pragmatic subtlety and cunning throughout the series. I could cite examples, but you presumably saw those scenes and already judged them for yourself.

Bear in mind that the meaning of the story is what I personally took away from it, regardless of whether or not the creator intended it as such. Even if he were only interested in attracting audiences via sex and violence, that wouldn't detract from the story or my level of appreciation for it, and I firmly believe that blasting Spartacus for supposed shallowness is to miss out on the complex activity beneath. However, we are in clear disagreement, so I'll say that a cigar might just be a cigar to you, but it could hold additional meaning for someone else. Since we're using quotes now, one man's trash is another man's treasure.

[mjmacky]

Bear in mind that ... one man's trash is another man's treasure.

Will you guys stop digging through my trash, I was thinking there was a bear around.

[zizo22]

as you said it's just blood and sex and sex and sex again
very bad acting it's like porn tv show

umbrella rihanna ............. the best :)

[mjmacky]

umbrella rihanna ............. the best :)

Is that the new accessorized version of her that came out? I think it's a cheap knock off of Weather Anchorwoman Superhero Not Wet.

[IdolEyes787]

From the red carpet of last night's premiere of Spartacus :Vengeance the new female "fighter".

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When asked what he thought about facing a woman in the Arena Spartacus replied "Well whatever the outcome I'm glad I ate her.

[IdolEyes787]

I watched the first episode of Vengeance and what struck me was how unlikable all characters are when they aren't tethered to a plot that inherently instils some sympathy.
That and I don't remember the way they seem determined to do every fight scene in slow motion as being nearly as annoying.The whole point of slow mo is to accentuate something but here there is such a preponderance that all it does is suck the life from the action.

[Stabber]

Well i find thew new season to be more costly , i mean with visual effects and the sex scenes . It will take some time to get used to the new spartacus , i don't find him very good at his role

[IdolEyes787]

OK the "torture the slave scene" was a little more than I really bought into the series for.:dabs:
I don't watch crap like Saw or Hostel because I'm not a big fan of pointless sadism.

[mjmacky]

pointless sadism.

That was the phrase I was looking for to describe those mentioned film series.

[CQ1ST]

My babie's momma is into this show with a vengeance, and totally infatuated with this actor Pana Hema Taylor, who could've been a primo gangsta if it weren't for this shit


www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KsoMxGP_4k

Is Lucy Lawless a "big-time actor" where you're all from? I heard that Zena was a cult hit, and I guess that would mean a bit of a following for this show too?

[IdolEyes787]

Is Lucy Lawless a "big-time actor" where you're all from? I heard that Zena was a cult hit, and I guess that would mean a bit of a following for this show too?

C lister at best.Except for this show and Xena which her conveniently were /are both produced by husband Rob Tapert her greatest claim to fame was a reoccurring roll on BSG and having her top fall down while singing The Star Spangled Banner at an Anaheim Ducks hockey game.

[Burnsy]

Am not really enjoying this new series at all... I don't think the 'new' Spartacus is a touch on Andy Whitfield, and for some reason am just not getting into the whole plot the way I did with the previous 2 series

[Frankthetank1]

how can you not like blood, tits, more blood, sex, more blood, ass, more blood, & death? I think it is pretty comical how gory they make every fighting scene and then show some titties in the middle of it...

[Burnsy]

Whoa, whoa, whoa... where did I say I didn't like all those delights??? :lol:

Just think the storyline/actors/acting is a little bit sheee-ite this time round, and not really getting into it... in fact I downloaded episode 5 last night and am sat on here typing shit instead of watching it... wouldn't have happened before with the previous 2 series :lol:

[IdolEyes787]

Whoa, whoa, whoa... where did I say I didn't like all those delights??? :lol:

Just think the storyline/actors/acting is a little bit sheee-ite this time round, and not really getting into it... in fact I downloaded episode 5 last night and am sat on here typing shit instead of watching it... wouldn't have happened before with the previous 2 series :lol:

I was feeling pretty much the same but episode 5 proved to overcome the annoying characters and bad acting and was terrifically apocalyptic. Whoever directed it deserves some credit for infusing the climatic battle with both a ton of energy and a bit of suspense.
Probably back to meh after this but at least it showed that the series when done well can still work.

[Burnsy]

Well I best bugger off for the night and watch this episode 5 then...

[IdolEyes787]

Season 2 finale aka Bloodbath Part Deux.
Actually the series is following remarkably closely to reported History so I wonder if at the very end the producers opt for hope(Spartacus' ultimate fate unknown) or resolution (a la Kubrick)
Anyway while watching that I had to wonder if there has ever been another series that approached the violence of this one?

[manker]

I've just watched the finale to Vengeance.

What an absolutely fantastic franchise this is. If you're a guy, it appeals to you on a number of levels - mostly very base levels but what has struck me is how closely tethered to various historical accounts this depiction of Spartacus has remained. Historical dramatisations have always been one of my favourite genres but what often sets them apart from one another is how subtle the nods to documented events and characters are. You get to thinking how the writers will depict a certain character or event and I've usually been pleasantly surprised with Spartacus. Particularly with Vengeance since the previous two series weren't so ruled by past events.

I loved the episode where they brought down the arena, everyone did, it was best episode in all three of the series. Absolutely gripping and I can't think of anything to top it, entertainment wise, from any other genres within the last few years.

What was unfortunate was the absence of one lead performer throughout the whole thing. I've heard so many people say that the new Spartacus isn't a patch on Andy Whitfield, but I think the new dewd's acting is slightly better. His presence and the intensity conjured up by the production team has grown on me throughout the series to such an extent that he is an eminently more believable Spartacus than Andy Whitfield ever was.
The reuniting of Oenomaus and Gannicus which was facilitated by Spartacus close to the conclusion was cheesy but I think the feel-good factor was needed to temper the deaths of so many main characters and the apparent hopelessness of their situation.

What they did with the historically unremarkable Glaber was fantastic, giving him a burning raison d'être and necessarily giving him both military and political nous so that he could be a worthy nemesis for Spartacus. Both his and Ashur's demise paves the way for the really heavy Roman hitters to have a crack at Spartacus and his merry men in the next series. I just worry how the pitched battles will be worked in, I understand that they're rather difficult to properly co-ordinate on television budgets.


Lastly, why are there so many Australians in it.

[IdolEyes787]

Lastly, why are there so many Australians in it.

They work cheap and don't require shower facilities since they are comfortable in their own filth.

Anyway I sort am divided on the "new" Spartacus.I think the problem that people have with him(McIntyre) is that he lacks some of the masculinity of Whitfield .I do agree though that he carries off the big inspirational speeches that were so much part of that cycle than I think Whitfield could have.

As for the battle scenes , most everything is already shot in front of bluescreens so I suppose it's just a matter of how much the network/producers are willing to invest to make it believable.
Also obviously history-wise and as dire as things were, up until this point Spartacus has just been annoying the periphery of Rome .From now on everything has to get big ,whether the series can accommodate that or not.

[manker]

Lastly, why are there so many Australians in it.

They work cheap and don't require shower facilities since they are comfortable in their own filth.

Anyway I sort am divided on the "new" Spartacus.I think the problem that people have with him(McIntyre) is that he lacks some of the masculinity of Whitfield .I do agree though that he carries off the big inspirational speeches that were so much part of that cycle than I think Whitfield could have.

As for the battle scenes , most everything is already shot in front of bluescreens so I suppose it's just a matter of how much the network/producers are willing to invest to make it believable.
Also obviously history-wise and as dire as things were, up until this point Spartacus has just been annoying the periphery of Rome .From now on everything has to get big ,whether the series can accommodate that or not.
Yeah, I'm interested to know how they're going to show him and his followers tramping up and down Italy - because I'm not sure what they were up to and it seems as if no one really knew wtf he was thinking. Also, up until now, we're asked to suspend disbelief such that Spartacus and his men can easily defeat trained soldiers of a similar or greater number, so it will be interesting to see how that's worked in with the more famous battles being won with overwhelming numerical advantages in favour of the rebelling slaves.

I just googled McIntrye as I didn't know his name before. He's an Aussie too ffs.
Looks like you were right :smilie4: