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thedrocks16
10-16-2003, 12:37 AM
My sister was just sent this and she was wondering how serious it is. She uses the ip blocker and changed her port on her kazaa lite.

This message is being sent to all Faculty, Staff, and Students by
_______________________, with approval of the Office of the Vice
Provost.

To the Campus Community:

All of us have heard about the recent actions taken by the recording
and motion
picture industries to stop what they perceive as illegal copying of
music and
movies through peer-to-peer (P2P) file sharing programs. These
industries and
other content providers take seriously their interests. Materials such
as
music and movies continue to be protected by copyright even when freely
available on the Web.

The law that applies to these issues is copyright law, and, in
particular, the
Digital Millennium Copyright Act. The DMCA sets out procedures
copyright
owners can follow to put a stop to infringing activities. It allows
copyright
owners to formally notify an alleged infringer's internet service
provider
(ISP) to take action against the alleged infringer or itself become
liable for
the alleged infringements. For faculty and staff and students using
University
provided digital and internet connections, the University is the ISP.
The DMCA
also permits the copyright owner to require the ISP to reveal the
personal
identity of the alleged infringer, so that the copyright owner can sue
the user
directly.

Over the past year, the ________________________, like most other
colleges and
universities, has received DMCA notices alleging copyright infringement
over
University computing networks. The University does not tolerate or
condone
copyright infringement over University networks. Many University
faculty and
staff hold copyrights in their scholarly or professional work and
artistry, and
just as their rights need to be protected, so do others around the
world
deserve equal protection of their rights. Furthermore, large-scale
file
sharing can severely burden University servers and systems, making it
more
difficult and costly to meet the legitimate needs of University systems
users.

Granting access to University computer connections for email and
internet use
carries with it certain conditions. Those conditions include that
students,
faculty, and staff will not use them in ways that violate others'
copyright
interests. We ask that you abide by those conditions. Those who do not
may
face disciplinary action and permanent bans from access to University
computing
systems. This could be devastating to students performing coursework
and
faculty and staff completing job assignments.

The University's computing policy regarding compliance with copyright
law is
available at ________________________________________.
Please
review it. In addition, the American Council on Education has issued
an
informative white paper on peer-to-peer file sharing, which we commend
to your
reading. It is available at:
__________________________________________.

Sincerely,

_____________
Vice Provost




If you have questions or concerns about this issue, please reply to
___________________________.

jesraptora
10-16-2003, 12:47 AM
Yeah, my college is setting it up where if they find a file sharing program on your computer, they have the right to go through all your files and delete the ones they don't think you should have. I'm glad I live off campus this year.

Krynn

james_bond_rulez
10-16-2003, 12:53 AM
set your port as high as possible , something above 10000 is good

also get a removable hdd tray, put all your downloaded files in there.

so it's easy to get the hdd during "emergency" lol

they have NO right to search your computer unless they have a proper search warrent.

it's illegal to do that without a court order

good luck and happy p2p :D

Dan Man
10-16-2003, 12:59 AM
Of course it's not illegal - it's their network, they can attach whatever conditions they want to its use. And I can understand why they'd want to make sure they publicise as many disclaimers as possible. Anyway, as if it's going to stop anyone. I don't condone these measures, but it is their prerogative.

james_bond_rulez
10-16-2003, 01:13 AM
Originally posted by Dan Man@16 October 2003 - 00:59
Of course it's not illegal - it's their network, they can attach whatever conditions they want to its use. And I can understand why they'd want to make sure they publicise as many disclaimers as possible. Anyway, as if it's going to stop anyone. I don't condone these measures, but it is their prerogative.
not if the university is willing to go to court with me for violating my privacy. just because i am on their network doesn't give them the right to search my computer.

the eula only says that you cannot run servers of sorts but it doesn't give them the right to search your computer IF they "think" you have file sharing.

what they do is run period scans of your traffic, ports like 20, 21, 23, 25 ,110, 1214, you get the idea.

set your sharing ports above 10000 will evade most of these scans plus if you are careful just change ip regularly.

thedrocks16
10-16-2003, 01:17 AM
Alright thanks for all the help

Dan Man
10-16-2003, 01:37 AM
What happens if you're using a college computer, then can they search your files which are on their servers?

james_bond_rulez
10-16-2003, 02:04 AM
Originally posted by Dan Man@16 October 2003 - 01:37
What happens if you're using a college computer, then can they search your files which are on their servers?
college computers? what r u talking about?

i meant your personal computer that you bring to your campus dorm and connect it to the school network

they can't search shit from other terminals if you are smart enough to use a firewall.

DasScoot
10-16-2003, 04:50 AM
Originally posted by james_bond_rulez+16 October 2003 - 01:13--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (james_bond_rulez @ 16 October 2003 - 01:13)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Dan Man@16 October 2003 - 00:59
Of course it&#39;s not illegal - it&#39;s their network, they can attach whatever conditions they want to its use. And I can understand why they&#39;d want to make sure they publicise as many disclaimers as possible.&nbsp; Anyway, as if it&#39;s going to stop anyone. I don&#39;t condone these measures, but it is their prerogative.
not if the university is willing to go to court with me for violating my privacy. just because i am on their network doesn&#39;t give them the right to search my computer.

the eula only says that you cannot run servers of sorts but it doesn&#39;t give them the right to search your computer IF they "think" you have file sharing.

what they do is run period scans of your traffic, ports like 20, 21, 23, 25 ,110, 1214, you get the idea.

set your sharing ports above 10000 will evade most of these scans plus if you are careful just change ip regularly. [/b][/quote]
Maybe your eula says they can&#39;t search your computer. Many (most?) colleges make you sign an agreement saying basically they can do whatever they want, or they disconnect your internet.



drock, I&#39;d suggest she shut it off while she&#39;s still on campus. Regular ISPs don&#39;t give a shit what you do with their connections, colleges on the other hand can be as tough as the RIAA is.

bryanskrantz
10-16-2003, 02:19 PM
because of the RIAA colleges are taking steps to prevent them from even thinking about suing them. and trust me, it may be invasion of privacy but your computer is on their server even if you have a comp in your dorm, they do have the right to look at your computer because its a public server. THEREFORE, they do not need a search warrent. if it was a private server or a desentralized server, then its a different story.

Wizzandabe
10-16-2003, 02:36 PM
Im glad I dont live on a campus, Few.

fr600
10-16-2003, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by Wizzandabe@16 October 2003 - 20:36
Im glad I dont live on a campus, Few.

Whats that "Few"???

Mosfos
10-17-2003, 02:02 AM
Originally posted by bryanskrantz@16 October 2003 - 14:19
your computer is on their server even if you have a comp in your dorm
Using what you just said, if they came to delete your files(which I think is total bs and illegal) you could just unplug your ethernet cable, and they would not be able to touch you computer.

Rip The Jacker
10-17-2003, 05:49 AM
Originally posted by fr600+16 October 2003 - 11:51--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (fr600 @ 16 October 2003 - 11:51)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Wizzandabe@16 October 2003 - 20:36
Im glad I dont live on a campus, Few.

Whats that "Few"??? [/b][/quote]
I think he means "phew", as a sign of relief.

DasScoot
10-17-2003, 06:03 AM
Originally posted by Mosfos+17 October 2003 - 02:02--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mosfos @ 17 October 2003 - 02:02)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bryanskrantz@16 October 2003 - 14:19
your computer is on their server even if you have a comp in your dorm
Using what you just said, if they came to delete your files(which I think is total bs and illegal) you could just unplug your ethernet cable, and they would not be able to touch you computer. [/b][/quote]
If you kept it disconnected for the rest of the semester, sure.

bryanskrantz
10-17-2003, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by DasScoot@17 October 2003 - 06:03
Using what you just said, if they came to delete your files(which I think is total bs and illegal) you could just unplug your ethernet cable, and they would not be able to touch you computer.

it is not illegal and its not totally bullsiht. they do not want viruses crawling around in thier servers that can infect all of the other comps in the campus.

Mosfos
10-18-2003, 12:17 AM
If another person had their computer open to a virus attack from the network then they deserve to get a virus. Still deleting files against your will is bs.

DasScoot
10-18-2003, 12:58 AM
Originally posted by bryanskrantz+17 October 2003 - 15:01--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bryanskrantz @ 17 October 2003 - 15:01)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-DasScoot@17 October 2003 - 06:03
Using what you just said, if they came to delete your files(which I think is total bs and illegal) you could just unplug your ethernet cable, and they would not be able to touch you computer.

it is not illegal and its not totally bullsiht. they do not want viruses crawling around in thier servers that can infect all of the other comps in the campus. [/b][/quote]
I didn&#39;t say that :lol:

james_bond_rulez
10-18-2003, 01:20 AM
let&#39;s put things clear

if anybody deletes my files without my permission, right or not i am still cutting their fucking hands off :lol:

damn fools

bryanskrantz
10-18-2003, 01:43 AM
oy. quoted wrong again. damnit&#33;

abu_has_the_power
10-19-2003, 01:38 AM
james_bond_rulez is rite, get a harddrive tray and put all ur illegal stuff on that harddrive. all canadians think alike :lol: :D . (i&#39;m a canadian living in chicago) ;)

when u dl, dl to ur fixed harddrive, then transfer it to ur tray hd, and take that out when u dl. so they&#39;ll only c the one dl, and not all ur shit. works like a charm. should try it if ur paranoid like me. i have a tray, just too lazy to put it in.