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ultimatejester
10-16-2003, 08:55 PM
Yes, SATA is a step forward

No, ATA is fine

thks to the mod who created poll
3rd gen noob
10-16-2003, 09:00 PM
well, when i was in a lan with a friend of mine, we were getting transfer rates of approx 10.5mB/sec constantly

mostly due to his s-ata drive

i think s-ata is a good performance boost, but not the real answer for the future
{I}{K}{E}
10-16-2003, 09:00 PM
no....
fr600
10-16-2003, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by {I}{K}{E}@17 October 2003 - 03:00
no....

What do u mean???
3rd gen noob
10-16-2003, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by fr600@16 October 2003 - 21:25
What do u mean???
i'd guess he means 'no', but i'm not sure... :rolleyes:
DarthInsinuate
10-16-2003, 09:56 PM
no, because I'm cheap, possibly if i want to use multiple drives, which i probably won't, so, no, meaning no i will not buy a SATA drive, although smaller cables do sound nice...
ultimatejester
10-17-2003, 01:15 AM
Originally posted by DarthInsinuate@16 October 2003 - 21:56
no, because I'm cheap, possibly if i want to use multiple drives, which i probably won't, so, no, meaning no i will not buy a SATA drive, although smaller cables do sound nice...
same here.
sparsely
10-17-2003, 01:37 AM
they haven't even saturated the full bandwidth of ATA yet...

just like AGP cards. <_<
Wolfmight
10-17-2003, 02:04 AM
I already got a Sata on my mobo.. Just no Sata HD.. :(
they cost quite some also
DWk
10-17-2003, 02:58 AM
i have 2 s-ata cables and ports on my mobo.... i just dont have any/know any/need any s-ata hdds...

so whatever lol

DWk
kurtsl0an
10-17-2003, 03:07 AM
Originally posted by DWk@17 October 2003 - 02:58
i have 2 s-ata cables and ports on my mobo.... i just dont have any/know any/need any s-ata hdds...

so whatever lol

DWk
on ur p2 400? - lol.
Wolfmight
10-17-2003, 03:26 AM
Originally posted by kurtsl0an+16 October 2003 - 21:07--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kurtsl0an @ 16 October 2003 - 21:07)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-DWk@17 October 2003 - 02:58
i have 2 s-ata cables and ports on my mobo.... i just dont have any/know any/need any s-ata hdds...

so whatever lol

DWk
on ur p2 400? - lol. [/b][/quote]
not cpu.. the motherboard
Virtualbody1234
10-17-2003, 03:45 AM
Well the title and the poll question are not the same.

your Next Computer, Will You Go, SATA for your storage
For my next computer, I say: (http://www.mcbriens.net/liam/img/smilies/yes.gif Yes, SATA is a step forward)


Will you go SATA with your next HD upgrade?
For my next HD upgrade, I say: (http://www.mcbriens.net/liam/img/smilies/no.gif No, ATA is fine)
Evil Gemini
10-17-2003, 10:45 AM
WTF is a SATA ?? a super ata or something ???
3RA1N1AC
10-17-2003, 10:55 AM
Originally posted by neattairoski@17 October 2003 - 02:45
WTF is a SATA ?? a super ata or something ???
serial ata. it&#39;s supposed to have better throughput and lower resource-hogging than ata. and the slim cables are a very nice perk.

i dunno, though. when i first heard about sata, i was really excited about the idea, and it still sounds like a step forward... but early reviews said the increase in HD read/write speed was minimal on single drives, and the improvement was mostly in the area of stripe RAIDs.

have SATA controllers developed to a point yet, that single drives benefit much? if not, i guess i&#39;d wait a while until the benefit extends beyond RAIDs. although i&#39;d really love to get rid of the nasty tangle of IDE ribbon cables in my PC. four hard drives, a CD-RW, a DVD-RW, a SCSI ZIP, a floppy... as you can imagine, it&#39;s a mess and i&#39;m just not willing to invest in rounded cables for all of it.
james_bond_rulez
10-17-2003, 11:23 AM
what about SCSI controller cards and SCSI hdds? how much faster were they supposed to be?
3RA1N1AC
10-17-2003, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@17 October 2003 - 03:23
what about SCSI controller cards and SCSI hdds? how much faster were they supposed to be?
not sure how they compare to sata, but much better than ata. like ata, SCSI does make gradual improvements over the years. but for some reason, it&#39;s extremely expensive. the cost of manufacturing SCSI components is prolly just a lot higher than ata & sata because it&#39;s a hardware-based controller rather than software-based (i.e. the CPU does most of the work in an ata setup). might have something to do with why SCSI is primarily aimed at servers rather than PCs.

the only reason i have any SCSI in my PC at all is because my old ZIP sucked (used the printer port, it was sooooo slow), so i got a used SCSI one from ebay for like 10 bucks... and a friend was able to "borrow" a SCSI controller for me, from his computer job where they upgraded & replaced their PC/server stuff all the time and they just threw all their old parts in a "junk" room. but building a new SCSI-based PC would just be ridiculous &#036;&#036;&#036;.
DWk
10-17-2003, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by kurtsl0an+17 October 2003 - 03:07--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kurtsl0an @ 17 October 2003 - 03:07)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-DWk@17 October 2003 - 02:58
i have 2 s-ata cables and ports on my mobo.... i just dont have any/know any/need any s-ata hdds...

so whatever lol

DWk
on ur p2 400? - lol. [/b][/quote]
no actually my pc is athlon xp 1800+.....with an msi kt4 ultra mobo....it includes 2 s-ata ports and cables.... read my sig ;)

DWk
ilw
10-17-2003, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by 3rd gen noob@16 October 2003 - 22:00
i think s-ata is a good performance boost, but not the real answer for the future
Why not? the initial standard is just the beginning like USB 1.0 , the speeds it can do are I think already limited by the hard drive, not by the SATA standard, If i remember well i read somewhere that they&#39;ve already got the next speed upgrades all planned out, but hard drives will have to get faster first.
sparsely
10-18-2003, 01:03 AM
Originally posted by 3RA1N1AC
it&#39;s a mess and i&#39;m just not willing to invest in rounded cables for all of it.

Invest?
A rounded IDE & Floppy cable set is like, 10-15&#036; :rolleyes:
bigdawgfoxx
10-18-2003, 01:16 AM
How the HELL is this thing 50-50???? SATA is better...its like USB 1.0 and USB 2.0??? I mean cmon SATA IS BETTER&#33; and not more exspensive&#33; like 10 bux&#33; (talking about the 7200 models of course&#33; ....SATA is better..DUH
3RA1N1AC
10-18-2003, 01:17 AM
you did read how much stuff i said i have installed, right? i&#39;d need to buy at least 3 IDE cables and a floppy cable. and they&#39;d need to be long because my drives & IDE connectors are pretty far apart. it starts adding up.

personally, when i&#39;ve got a spare &#036;40-&#036;50 lying around (once you add up the cost of ordering the cables online even from some of the cheapest places, plus tax since most PC companies are in the same state as me, plus shipping)... the first thought that comes to mind isn&#39;t "oh boy, now i can buy rounded cables&#33;" ;)
3rd gen noob
10-18-2003, 01:17 AM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@18 October 2003 - 01:16
How the HELL is this thing 50-50???? SATA is better...its like USB 1.0 and USB 2.0??? I mean cmon SATA IS BETTER&#33; and not more exspensive&#33; like 10 bux&#33; (talking about the 7200 models of course&#33; ....SATA is better..DUH
the performance increase isn&#39;t that big...
your comparison of usb1.0 and 2.0 is a little far-fetched... :rolleyes:
bigdawgfoxx
10-18-2003, 01:26 AM
Yeah 3rd gen you are right its not that big, but still why not go with the latest and fastest stuff? Plus rounded cables for better airflow..if your that concered about airflow lol
DarthInsinuate
10-18-2003, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@18 October 2003 - 01:26
but still why not go with the latest and fastest stuff?
so we can save our money for buying the latest, fastest stuff that are actually faster
Evil Gemini
10-18-2003, 11:12 AM
I found this site that explains the differences between the Serial ATA and Parallel ATA and compares the speeds.

http://tech-report.com/reviews/2003q1/ata-...ro/index.x?pg=1 (http://tech-report.com/reviews/2003q1/ata-comparo/index.x?pg=1)
Lamsey
10-18-2003, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@18 October 2003 - 01:26
if your that concered about airflow lol
The better the airflow, the cooler the components, the better the reliability/longevity of the computer.
Benno
10-18-2003, 11:39 AM
I wouldnt buy sata now because its just to early, but it will defenitely increase in performance and then im sure gonna buy it with my next mobo upgrade.
Evil Gemini
10-18-2003, 01:35 PM
On that site it sais that an ATA hdd is 100Mbs and a S-ATA is 150Mbs. I would buy one but my moboard doesnt support S-ATA.

I wonder if there is like a PCI-to-S-ATA because i know you can get the PCI-to-IDE cards.
bigdawgfoxx
10-18-2003, 03:25 PM
Neat, I&#39;m pretty sure that you can buy PCI cards that give you a SATA conector. SATA is better and the future....its like 10 bux more, cmon how can u go with the old stuff
Neo 721
10-18-2003, 10:42 PM
The big thing to watch for is Serial SCSI which will allow everyone to laugh at S/ATA. but for now SATA will do.