SqN is Officially Dead

[PancakeWaffles]

All you haters can rejoice, for SqN has died.


* roon3y has changed the topic to: R.I.P SqN
<YamaY> What The F*ck
<polcan> R.I.P SqN rly?
<roon3y> crap
<roon3y> we need 40$
<jamesos868> :o
<TheBeat> rip?
<TheBeat> why?
<TheBeat> Masquerade
<Rezident> Because the server wasn't payed, and need like 40$
<GraveNoX> SqN is gone ?
<Kid> yeah ..

I for one will miss SqN though. :(

[anon]

So it died because no one had 40 bucks? I'll wait for the jokes about that.

[snagit]

So it died because no one had 40 bucks? I'll wait for the jokes about that.

Why did SqN die?
Because nobody had 40 bucks!

ROFLMFAO!!! :lol:

[Burnsy]

A site died all for the sake of $40???

Who exactly was running it? :blink: And why would you run a site if you couldn't provide your own server fees... relying on donations maybe isn't the best way to go about things, they're never guaranteed...

I've never even heard of SqN... who were they and what did they offer?

[anon]

I've never even heard of SqN...

Ratio-free music tracker.

[Cabalo]

Under 16 people with good photoshop skills opening secretive trackers left and right. This won't be the last one to close due to a few bucks short on donations.

[Tv Controls you]

$40..... If you own a BT site I think you should be able to pay off $40 in case of a low donation month or something.

He should have made announcements that he couldn't pay for it way before he missed the payment. It is fully the owners fault for letting the site get that far ran down.

[susiserken]

IMO the site was pretty much doomed when they couldnt scratch together 100$ some time ago cant say im surprised at all.

[Burnsy]

It is fully the owners fault for letting the site get that far ran down.

Totally agree, and it's ok to make mistakes, just as long as they don't happen again kinda thing...

If they're 16-ish and kids like has been mentioned then I'm sure they'll be back with something else... maybe when the pocket money rises in line with inflation :P (j/k)

[Rart]

He should have made announcements that he couldn't pay for it way before he missed the payment. It is fully the owners fault for letting the site get that far ran down.

I thought they did?

Anyways, I'm not in the least bit surprised.

It goes to show how much a new tracker that focuses solely on exclusivity and leetness rather than developing a large core userbase can survive in this world.

So much for a "community" tracker eh? Where was their "community" when the tracker needed it the most?

[Tv Controls you]

Rart I was under the impression that he didn't make an announcement due to the surprised reaction of members in the chat log posted.
He obviously didn't make it known that he was in the hole for last months payment as members were completely surprised when it got shutdown.

I am not a member of the site (or wasn't.. past tense), so I can't confirm anything.

[Quarterquack]

Second time this happens, I'd say good riddance. I don't understand how tracker staff put together don't have 40$.

[Funkin']

If it were me, I would have made up a lie. I would have told people it was because the RIAA was hounding me, or something along those lines. Definitely would not have made it known that the closure was due to me not having a few measly dollars in my pocket.

How embarrassing for the owner...

[Rart]

Perhaps he thinks that this way he can get a couple extra bucks from some sympathizers.

[Burnsy]

Perhaps he thinks that this way he can get a couple extra bucks from some sympathizers.

Bit late for that now if it's closed... would be even more embarrassing coming back now imo

[Slickerey]

It's not dead.

They're having "maintenance". :rolleyes:

[Zac090]

Under 16 people with good photoshop skills opening secretive trackers left and right. This won't be the last one to close due to a few bucks short on donations.

+1

Yes they had already asked for donations a couple of times,last month they just managed to survive,so no surprises

RIP:(

[Cabalo]

Maintenance again ? :eyebrows:

[1000possibleclaws]

Classic way for an amateur tracker to go out. Couldn't have ended better (aka more memorable, that's what you were going for, right?) Thanks for brightening my evening SqN, now you can go down with the legends. :happy:ScN, ScL, SqN..

[PancakeWaffles]

lol they are saying maintenance now, well I would blame this on incorrectness as they did say they would be changing servers again...

[b3owulf]

"Mom, please, only 40 bucks, it's the last time, pleeeeease!!!" - that's how the process of maintenance looks like, I guess.

[Cut-Copy-Paste]

"Mom, please, only 40 bucks, it's the last time, pleeeeease!!!" - that's how the process of maintenance looks like, I guess.

:lol:

[Glitterstep]

I thought they did?

Anyways, I'm not in the least bit surprised.

It goes to show how much a new tracker that focuses solely on exclusivity and leetness rather than developing a large core userbase can survive in this world.

So much for a "community" tracker eh? Where was their "community" when the tracker needed it the most?

+1000000


lol they are saying maintenance now, well I would blame this on incorrectness as they did say they would be changing servers again...

This is seriously now gonna hurt them big time,users who have read this thread will most probably seek a better tracker!


All you haters can rejoice, for SqN has died.



We never hated SqN,I personally dint like the way they went running their tracker.They wanted to be a "community tracker" and went on to recruit members from a BT community forum :P.
I still wouldn't waste my time and efforts on a tracker that's has very little scope of surviving.


"Mom, please, only 40 bucks, it's the last time, pleeeeease!!!" - that's how the process of maintenance looks like, I guess.


:lol:

[Wassup]

sqn is dead , :blink: :(:(:(

[The_Martinator]

Big surprise!!! NOT.

I never did join, though, since I heard it was a tracker with all kinds of music, but in reality it was mostly trance and its variations (don't know the names, sorry).

My conclusion: trance maniacs are poor. :lol:

PS: I don't think being very poor is something to laugh about. In this case it prolly was a kid, but nowadays I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't.

[Zac090]

"Mom, please, only 40 bucks, it's the last time, pleeeeease!!!" - that's how the process of maintenance looks like, I guess.
lol :lol:

[Swift]

roon3y staff it's obvious

[n00bz0r]

roon3y staff it's obvious
:lol:

[DarkK1d]

Sorry for SqN. 40$, not that much, but..

[Cabalo]

"Mom, please, only 40 bucks, it's the last time, pleeeeease!!!" - that's how the process of maintenance looks like, I guess.
:lol:
Someone is going to spend the rest of the month without money for milk and cookies in the afternoon break at school.

[Glitterstep]

:lol:

[Funkin']

"Mom, please, only 40 bucks, it's the last time, pleeeeease!!!" - that's how the process of maintenance looks like, I guess.

:lol:



I never did join, though, since I heard it was a tracker with all kinds of music, but in reality it was mostly trance and its variations (don't know the names, sorry).


This is the reason I never joined either. Most new music trackers are FULL of nothing but mainly electronic music. I guess it's because they take their releases straight from the scene.

[anon]

If it were me, I would have made up a lie. I would have told people it was because the RIAA was hounding me, or something along those lines. Definitely would not have made it known that the closure was due to me not having a few measly dollars in my pocket.

Perhaps it was a last-resort tactic to make users feel guilty about not donating and make them finally give the necessary forty dollars. :unsure:

[VinX]

duh , how many more times will noobs post SqN dead if the tracker goes down for maintenance .. so like any other tracker goes to maintenance .. people say its dead .. duh ...

its not dead , it will be back in ~3 days

[roby17]

i don`t miss this tracker aniway,i know all owners from there super uber l33t wtf

who need sqn if we have TT,MT,WAflles,what,pedro,etc

come on guys for 40 $ this site die,what a shame on this owners

[anon]

who need sqn if we have TT,MT,WAflles,what,pedro,etc

All of which keep track of ratios. Perhaps the ratio-free aspect of SqN was attractive to some.

[Rart]

...and that's what Demonoid/Soulseek/Public trackers are for. It really does not take that long to download an mp3 file, you don't need the "best" speeds associated with a private tracker (although with such a small userbase, finding decent speeds may be even rarer on a site like SqN).

[th0r]

Under 16 people with good Photoshop skills opening secretive trackers left and right.I'll admit their style sheet was really nice.

Can anyone give me screenshots of this tracker or is it gone for good?

[Rart]

http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bittorrent-tracker-reviews-189/t-sqnight-review-392432

[Slickerey]

who need sqn if we have TT,MT,WAflles,what,pedro,etc

All of which keep track of ratios. Perhaps the ratio-free aspect of SqN was attractive to some.

I've heard rumors about Pedro's and TT being very easy to seed at. Same with E.

[anon]

Well, Pedro's has an anti-overseeding rule, doesn't it? No idea about the rest, since I'm not there.

[TraLaLa]

All of which keep track of ratios. Perhaps the ratio-free aspect of SqN was attractive to some.

I've heard rumors about Pedro's and TT being very easy to seed at. Same with E.

those rumors helps you to sleep good at night, if you are not there nothing is for sure and you will still use sites like the poor sqn

[cinephilia]

k1-TrAvp_xs

:cry:

[n00bz0r]

I've heard rumors about Pedro's and TT being very easy to seed at. Same with E.

those rumors helps you to sleep good at night, if you are not there nothing is for sure and you will still use sites like the poor sqn
They are really easy to seed provided you are in the habit of seeding for a good couple of weeks after grabbing torrents.

[System]

http://i48.tinypic.com/2i9qlgz.jpg

[karachidude]

If they dont visit FST,how did they know...hmmm

[A]

If they dont visit FST,how did they know...hmmm
Word of Mouth is powerfull

[karachidude]

ofcourse it is :D

[Castronaut]

It's FST's fauled they had downtime!!! :( :( :(

[Quarterquack]

How does having jobs/family/kids justify not even having 100$? It's not like they made the tracker and all of a sudden they were required to pay a bill. They knew what they were getting into when they made the tracker, they knew the responsibility they were taking, and they clearly knew that the cheaper the hosting, the more possible for them to handle the costs. When a tracker nearly dies because grown adults cannot scramble 100$ even when they all pitch in, something's wrong.

Either that, or they themselves aren't sure if the tracker will remain alive, so none of them wanted to invest in the tracker. They simply wanted the users to maintain it for them.

[WhoopDeDoo]

Who cares either way? CoExist is a better ratioless tracker then SqN.

[Zac090]

lol @ higher education,looks like they are trying to convince themselves more than us

[Hnng]

Yeah,sure...nonexist, with 0 activity on forum (1-2 members maxim), few torrents uploaded daily, peers ~5k... :/
sqn>ce ,but i prefere scenesound.

[cinephilia]

demonoid>other ratioless music trackers

[Cabalo]

Yeah,sure...nonexist, with 0 activity on forum (1-2 members maxim), few torrents uploaded daily, peers ~5k... :/
sqn>ce ,but i prefere scenesound.

Disagree. Ratioless music sites = expected fail.
The concept of long retention and massive user uploads only works due to the seeding difficulty. When you remove that out of the equation, there goes the content.

[Qlix]

... So how is it going to be? Is it dead or will it come back? If it is, ETA?

[pretend]

1. 'SqN is Officially Dead' - first post here.
2. 'SqN is gonna live' - staff post on PiN.
Too much of 'official' information :ermm: Or too many staff members.

[PancakeWaffles]

Staff members, it was the IRC topic for a few days lol.

[Zac090]

Too much of 'official' information :ermm: Or too many staff members.kids
:whistling

[necrolic]

only 40$ :S

[1000possibleclaws]

Qlix is worried whether or not to remove this site from his 'l33t site' bookmarks folder. I think it's urgent, someone please give him an ETA!

[VinX]

Qlix is worried whether or not to remove this site from his 'l33t site' bookmarks folder. I think it's urgent, someone please give him an ETA!


HAHA :rofl:

l33t , i have come across this word a thousand times recently ... makes me sick :dry:

[PancakeWaffles]

lol 1337? barely anyone could get in if they wanted to, all they had to do was a short ass interview which is like 10% of how long What's is, plus invites are easy to obtain.

[cinephilia]

invites are easy to obtain but no one wants them so in the end, the userbase is inevitably small... then they can brag about being 1337 ! :P

[DonkeyPacker]

"Mom, please, only 40 bucks, it's the last time, pleeeeease!!!" - that's how the process of maintenance looks like, I guess.
:lol:
Someone is going to spend the rest of the month without money for milk and cookies in the afternoon break at school.
I neeeeeeeeeeeeeever have money for milk and cookies anymore.

[Zac090]

Qlix is worried whether or not to remove this site from his 'l33t site' bookmarks folder. I think it's urgent, someone please give him an ETA!

Me too :(

[Glitterstep]

invites are easy to obtain but no one wants them so in the end, the userbase is inevitably small... then they can brag about being 1337 ! :P

lmao... :lol:

[C-mos]

ahahaha , nice job ffs.

[ragincajun77]

Yeah,sure...nonexist, with 0 activity on forum (1-2 members maxim), few torrents uploaded daily, peers ~5k... :/
sqn>ce ,but i prefere scenesound.

Haha, you must not be a member or you just don't get the purpose of our site (i.e. Coexist). We never intended on indexing scene releases. 95% of scene music releases are spam or V2 trance shit. If that floats your boat then more power to you, but it is not what we had in mind when we formed CE.

We built the tracker based on the idea of having a small group of members sharing the albums they enjoyed so others could try it out and possibly discover some cool new music. Go take a look at the browse page at sqn (if it's still open) and tell me what percentage is within the Electronica genre. Also, what percentage is V2.

Coexist has been online for just under a year and is presently at 1297 members. During that time 4964 albums have been uploaded (90% of which are non-scene releases). Presently, there are 2946 active torrents on the browse page. Of the 5,000 torrents that have been uploaded to CE only 959 were V2. We have had 1426 V0 uploads, 764 flac, 941 320 kbs.

There have been 9766 forum posts, which means that, on average, there are 26.75 forum posts per day.

Finally, I must mention our irc. If you are a member of Coexist, I would suggest you try out our irc channel. Our irc channel exemplifies the tight-knit community of music lovers that embodies the purpose behind CE.

Btw, if the above is perceived as blasting Sqn, then I apologize in advance. The staffers of sqn are also members of CE (even though they have never invited me to their tracker :whistling) and I mean no ill will and wish them all the best.

[Funkin']

Haha, you must not be a member or you just don't get the purpose of our site (i.e. Coexist). We never intended on indexing scene releases. 95% of scene music releases are spam or V2 trance shit.

So true. And judging by the many reviews that I've seen of Sqn, it looks like this is what the site is full of(not to mention most new music sites). Of course I could be wrong since I'm not a member and don't plan on being one...

[PancakeWaffles]

Well as an uploader at SqN I never uploaded trance as I hate it too much to download it; and only maybe 10% of what I do upload was spam.

[ragincajun77]

Well as an uploader at SqN I never uploaded trance as I hate it too much to download it; and only maybe 10% of what I do upload was spam.

Why would you upload spam at all? Just curious....not trying to be an ass.

[n00bz0r]

Well as an uploader at SqN I never uploaded trance as I hate it too much to download it; and only maybe 10% of what I do upload was spam.

upload spam?
:huh:

[1000possibleclaws]

Well as an uploader at SqN I never uploaded trance as I hate it too much to download it; and only maybe 10% of what I do upload was spam.

upload spam?
:huh:

I assume he meant 10% of his uploads are random scene rips of electronic/trance promo dj singles? :unsure: Assuming he used the word in context with rajincajun77's post.


IMO this type of uploading is worth less than not doing it at all. It's a 'flaw' of auto-uploading bots, unless, of course, you are a trance aficionado, or a dj.

[PancakeWaffles]

Because the spam I do upload is things I personally like. Also nothing wrong with simply more content, sure it's not A+ content but it's good content none the less.

[1000possibleclaws]

What is there to love with a few remixes and radio edits? I'd think it a bit overambitious to upload that kind of stuff unless you already upped the specific albums first and got good feedback from that. You don't even see that stuff make it on What.cd for the most part.

[PancakeWaffles]

Well when I am referring to spam I am mostly referring to singles and bootlegs, only time I upload singles is if it's a song that I like, and I upload bootlegs depending on simply what it contains, sometime they will have unique content at the time so it's worth uploading.

Also that shouldn't all fit on one sentence but too lazy to fix.

[1000possibleclaws]

Bootlegs are amazing. Check out EZTorrents(dimeadozen) of you want good flac soundbounds, probably mostly for rock type bands. It's the best source I've found yet. ZOMB-tracker is decent as well, and has some stuff that isn't on EZTorrents, vice versa.

[NkFy]

so after all SQN its closed or no? the staff say YES .. in irc channel NO ...after all in PiN they say SQN will be back...

[VinX]

Well as an uploader at SqN I never uploaded trance as I hate it too much to download it; and only maybe 10% of what I do upload was spam.

upload spam?
:huh:

http://ticklemykittens.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/spam.jpg

[KS-202]

This just announced in their IRC. The news is not good, they've apparently lost all torrents.


"We finally got an answer from our hosting firm and it's not good. All the torrents are lost due to hdd failure. SqN has to change to regain its status but this requires time(weeks). If you want to have a part in the change pm any staff member and suggest away(new categories, themes, etc)."

[Cabalo]

This is probably a great opportunity for them to become even more secretive.

[VinX]

too saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad

>.<

[thisguy]

:cry: RIP SQN I will always remember your free ratio :happy:

[PancakeWaffles]

So they shall revive as level 10 tracker, and I can trade away my invites for FTN right?

[anon]

Just FTN? :huh: