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clocker
10-21-2003, 01:38 AM
Just ordered it today, should be here by Thursday (I hope).
http://www.thermaltake.com/images/cases/products/xaser3/whiteSeries/v2000%2B.jpg
Specs (http://www.thermaltake.com/xaserCase/xaser3/2000plus.htm)

She comes bundled with a Thermaltake 420W PSU.

Now I'm thinking of upgrading my motherboard. Any suggestions?
I have a AMD AthlonXP 2600+ CPU already and a gig of PC2700 RAM. If possible I would like to use this heatsink/fan...
http://www.3dnews.ru/documents/5828/diff.jpg
The Zalman 7000A, but it difficult to find a board which will accept it.
The alternative is another Zalman product...
http://www.amdmb.com/images/ccc2/zalman-6000.jpg.

My primary interest right now is to build a quiet machine. In the (semi-near) future I would like to explore either a watercooling solution or a Peltier cooler, but right now I need to try to stay with air cooling.

So I would really like a board with the 4 mounting holes around the processor base so I can upgrade my cooling later. Many maufacturers seem to be dropping this feature for some reason.

I am open to suggestions and would appreciate any advice.

Target price for the mobo is $100-150 US ( preferably closer to the low end of course).

I don't really want to go nuts with the chip/board combo as the technology is changing fast. My case should be good for quite a while ( I hope) and will accept the newer generation of boards so it is easily upgradable.

The floor is open...
TheFilePirater
10-21-2003, 01:48 AM
:D holy fuck!!!, super computers dont even have heatsinks that big!!

nice fucking case 2, although i like mine better, thats just me... :rolleyes:
bigdawgfoxx
10-21-2003, 01:49 AM
Whats up with the alternative cooler? It doesn't have any fan!? The first one looks really good, but what socket will it fit in? Any thermaltake fan and heatsink combo will do great! Is that Zalman one just extra quite or what?
3RA1N1AC
10-21-2003, 01:51 AM
LOL. does that thing transform into a robot, or what? :lol:

j/k. if it looks good in your room, that's all that matters. i've got sort of a riceboy case, too. ;)
TheFilePirater
10-21-2003, 01:52 AM
but my case is better... :D
3RA1N1AC
10-21-2003, 01:53 AM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@20 October 2003 - 17:49
Whats up with the alternative cooler? It doesn't have any fan!? The first one looks really good, but what socket will it fit in? Any thermaltake fan and heatsink combo will do great! Is that Zalman one just extra quite or what?
hmm... i believe it is possible to put a fan on that Zalman heatsink? but it might not be necessary, depending on what CPU you use it with. those Zalman flower things are supposed to be really efficient.
3RA1N1AC
10-21-2003, 01:56 AM
Originally posted by TheFilePirater@20 October 2003 - 17:52
but my case is better... :D
i've actually got one really similar to yours, from the same company. the front is slightly different, and the lights are just blue instead of rainbow colored. but it's basically the same.
clocker
10-21-2003, 02:04 AM
The Zalman "flower" heatsink uses a 92mm fan that is mounted on a separate bracket.
My case has 2x 80mm fans mounted on the side, blowing directly on the mobo and heatsink, so it's (theoretically) possible that I won't need the Zalman fan.

It will depend on the board.

Board suggestions?
bigdawgfoxx
10-21-2003, 02:09 AM
FilePirater, I really don't believe your case is better. His case cost like 130, and yours only cost 50. They have them at a LAN place in my town, there alright, but the thermaltake is better.
3RA1N1AC
10-21-2003, 02:12 AM
any Nforce 2 Ultra 400 board with the MCP-T controller (for onboard sound) should go really well with that CPU. i dunno what brand to suggest, though... i've got a Gigabyte, but i admit it was a bit too expensive compared to other brands. hardcore PC hobbyists usually sing praises for Abit and Asus.
Virtualbody1234
10-21-2003, 04:11 AM
That's a really nice High-end case.
Problems with The Zalman 7000A, I've heard that the fans fail and you cannot replace just the fan (not universal).
The Zalman 'flower' coolers are not very efficient. (Not very much airflow happens down near the cental core where it's needed the most)

Check out the Thermalright SLK-900U Heatsink. It lets you put a 92mm fan. You can choose the fan you want and it's easily replaceable.

http://www.silentpcreview.com/modules.php?...artid=72&page=1 (http://www.silentpcreview.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=72&page=1)

http://www.silentpcreview.com/files/images/slk900/900%2B800.jpg

As for a new motherboard... What do you have now?
Wolfmight
10-21-2003, 04:12 AM
http://www.amdmb.com/images/ccc2/zalman-6000.jpg
HOLY !@#$%* that's huge. :blink:

that case is SLICK. I want to make one of those Fancy Smancy Water Cooled External HD with fadeing light case someday. (when i got some extra bucks hehe.. i need some teenager job. I do ebay wholesaleing right now.. some of u peeps prob bought some of my computer parts.)
Cygnuz-Y
10-21-2003, 04:14 AM
I think that case is cool, but i preffer buying a new normal case and do your own moddification to it... B)
clocker
10-21-2003, 04:42 AM
Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@20 October 2003 - 21:11


As for a new motherboard... What do you have now?
Right now I have a Biostar M7 VIT Pro.

I'm reading a big review of 20 copper HSFs and it is quite enlightening.
I admit that I was very influenced by the esthestics of the two HSFs that I first posted. Too much art backround... :P
Virtualbody1234
10-21-2003, 04:54 AM
Why do you want to upgrade the motherboard now?

Would'nt it be better to wait a bit to see if the 64 bit systems take off?
clocker
10-21-2003, 05:05 AM
Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@20 October 2003 - 21:54
Why do you want to upgrade the motherboard now?

Would'nt it be better to wait a bit to see if the 64 bit systems take off?
Probably.

Keeping the same board would also allow me to make some direct comparisons of my cooling solutions also.

Not to mention it would be cheaper...
3RA1N1AC
10-21-2003, 05:08 AM
Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@20 October 2003 - 20:54
Why do you want to upgrade the motherboard now?

Would'nt it be better to wait a bit to see if the 64 bit systems take off?
i thought clocker was building the system from scratch and already had about half of the parts. imho from a KT400, an Nforce 2 Ultra 400 would still be a nice upgrade if he's got a little bit of cash to throw around.
sparsely
10-21-2003, 05:11 AM
ooh!
/me has Case Envy :o

...but if I could get any one I wanted, I'd get this:

http://www.thecoolingshop.co.uk/tcs/catalog/6070.jpg (http://www.thecoolingshop.co.uk/tcs/comersus_viewitem.asp?idproduct=689)
clocker
10-21-2003, 05:23 AM
Thanks guys.
You both make valid points.
My current setup is only 2 1/2 months old and basically, I just flat out enjoyed the assembly process.
If I get a new board I can leave one of HDDs in the old box and have almost a complete system to try and sell. Add chip and you're set.
If I keep the Biostar I can just part out the old ( 2 months :lol: ) case and PSU,
keep both HDDs and the optical drives and wait and see how things shake out.
I suspect though that the 64 bit stuff will be criminally expensive for quite a while...

Maybe I'll get this instead... (http://www.thermaltake.com/coolers/aquarius/a1681.htm)
Billy_Dean
10-21-2003, 05:43 AM
Another point you should take into consideration Clocker is the cooling effect of the case, which is solid aluminium. I have one very similar, older version, I have 2 case fans at the back sucking air out, and one at the front blowing in. My case is COLD all the time, and just a standard heatsink.


:)
abu_has_the_power
10-21-2003, 06:07 AM
nice case. if u gona put athlon 2600, ur waste a perfect case. get a better cpu and oc it. or get a p4 2.4c and oc that, if ur gona use that crazy heatsink
clocker
10-21-2003, 11:15 AM
Abu, I hardly consider the 2600 to be a waste of a good case, but that's what makes the world go round, eh?
I really don't know enough about OCing yet to feel comfy and quite frankly, being an old bastard has made me cautious.
I'm far more interested in silence than blazing speed.
clocker
10-21-2003, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by Billy_Dean@20 October 2003 - 22:43
Another point you should take into consideration Clocker is the cooling effect of the case, which is solid aluminium. I have one very similar, older version, I have 2 case fans at the back sucking air out, and one at the front blowing in. My case is COLD all the time, and just a standard heatsink.


:)
Cold? Really?

I've read competing theories about this and can't wait to see.

One of the main attractions of this case was the fan layout. I hope that with all of the options I can get excellent airflow at a low fanspeed.
Billy, do you happen to know if the aluminum is anodized? Are fingerprints a problem?

As a point of interest, I saw a case at my local comp shop yesterday that had been special ordered for a guy. The skin was polished aluminum but all the drive bays and structure was cast magnesium! A good sneeze would blow it over. A bit pricey- bare it was over $300. But very cool.
Billy_Dean
10-21-2003, 12:46 PM
My case takes no fingerprints, and wipes down easily. It is heavy tho, but so what. If you want to keep the noise down, the case comes with fan temperature controls. The front of mine is fluted, so i can position my front fan across the HDD's, it then sucks air up from the bottom.

A good buy, when you upgrade, keep the box, stick the old bits in a cheap one.

Oh, and mod the fuck out of it. Does yours have a side window or a decal window?

:)
clocker
10-21-2003, 01:21 PM
Mine has a side window.
What is a "decal" window?

Is your case quiet?
What kind of PSU are you using?


Edit: Weight is really not much of an issue for me, either. I rarely backpack with it... ;)
abu_has_the_power
10-21-2003, 01:24 PM
Originally posted by clocker@21 October 2003 - 11:15
Abu, I hardly consider the 2600 to be a waste of a good case, but that's what makes the world go round, eh?
I really don't know enough about OCing yet to feel comfy and quite frankly, being an old bastard has made me cautious.
I'm far more interested in silence than blazing speed.
u make good point, but since u have crazy heatsink, abu says u oc ur cpu. abu not familiar with amds, but if u get p4 2.4c, u can go up to 3.5-3.8 ghz with stock, and some people go up to 4.5 with water cooling. abu says u should oc ur cpu. if u gona use huge ass heatsink, oc ur cpu. or else, abu confused, y would u buy a huge ass heatsink? :huh:
clocker
10-21-2003, 01:31 PM
Well Abu, clocker says that with a huge ass HSF he can get good cooling without having to generate a hurricane force airflow.
Clocker thinks that this would be a good thing.

Clocker wonders why you are so sold on the whole "overclocking" thing and remembers that only about a week ago you didn't seem to know sh*t about it.

Clocker questions your qualifications to be such an advocate...
Lamsey
10-21-2003, 01:34 PM
Lamsey thinks that abu should stop talking in the third person and go and read up on hardware, seeing as he clearly hasn't a clue.
clocker
10-21-2003, 01:38 PM
Lamsey,
Clocker thinks you may be right.
I'll ask him when next we speak...
Virtualbody1234
10-21-2003, 01:49 PM
Clocker, since I now see that you don't want to overclock and that you just want quiet then don't spend a fortune on cooling. You could just put a 80mm fan at a lower RPM using a fan adaptor. That's what I did. See here. (http://www.klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=31516&hl=) The pictures don't do it justice, and since then I have redone it with polished aluminum. :)

I think that Billy_Dean is right in saying that that case should run cool and it's probably well insulated for sound also.

Virtualbody1234 is thinking that Lamsey's thinking is right. :lol:

Btw. I don't believe in overclocking. I believe in reliability, stabillity and silence. http://www.mcbriens.net/liam/img/smilies/thumbsup.gif
Lamsey
10-21-2003, 01:55 PM
If you do go for a new motherboard, you might want to consider an Asus board - they tend to have fan-throttling features that will automatically strike a balance between cooling the CPU and spinning fast.
So you'll always be as quiet as possible.


The Asus A7N8X Deluxe (2nd edition) is the best mobo there is for Athlons IMO, and it supports this feature.
Billy_Dean
10-21-2003, 02:03 PM
A Decal window is in the shape of something fancy, a lightning flash, for instance, or a hawk, etc. as opposed to a whole side window.

My case can be noisy if i let it, as its on 24 hours a day for days on end sometimes, I tend to have all the fans going. So thats 3 case fans, psu fan, cpu fan and graphics card fan. But I grew up under the flight path at Heathrow so I'm used to that amount of noise! Seriously tho, you can have them thermostatically controlled so they only come on when needed.

My psu came with the case, it runs on some special bearing and is silent, or near enough, 430 watt I believe.


:)
clocker
10-21-2003, 02:03 PM
Yes, I am familiar with your fan adaptor and applaud your ingenuity.
I saw a further addition to your concept ( sorry, can't remember where, if I run across it again I'll send you the link) which involved making a adaptor to fit the outboard side of the fan and ducting cool air from the outside of the case. The results were pretty amazing.

I am considering using noise suppression pads inside the case also.
Virtualbody1234
10-21-2003, 02:14 PM
a adaptor to fit the outboard side of the fan and ducting cool air from the outside of the case

Wow. That's cool because I have been trying to do that same thing myself. (Flexible tube to the back of the case.) I still havn't perfected it yet. :(
clocker
10-21-2003, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@21 October 2003 - 07:14

a adaptor to fit the outboard side of the fan and ducting cool air from the outside of the case

Wow. That's cool because I have been trying to do that same thing myself. (Flexible tube to the back of the case.) I still havn't perfected it yet. :(
Yep.

This setup has two identical adaptors. One mounts to your heatsink fan and the other to a fan mounted on your case wall/back. The wall fan intakes air from outside and blows it through the duct to the heatsink fan. This kit also includes a chimney ( essentially just a shroud) mounted to the exhaust area of your PSU. It directs the hot air from your power supply straight up so it won't get sucked back into your case.
The drop in temp using this setup was 5-6C. Not too shabby.


Edit: this is not the exact product I was talking about, but identical in concept and execution...Fan duct (http://www.casecooler.com/suovairdu.html)
Virtualbody1234
10-21-2003, 02:50 PM
I was thinking to try reversing the direction of airflow so that the heat from the heatsink gets sucked right out the case. It would help with the case temps as well. That's my next experiment.

Another thing I have done is I have cut two 80mm holes in the floor of my case and used these:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/images/SKUimages/medium/C250-3506-rn.jpg

as a grill. It allows for great airflow. :) I also built a box that my tower stands on. The box houses my router and external modem. It also has two 80mm holes on top that align with the holes on the bottom of my case. The whole unit can be rolled around, I put it on casters.
Billy_Dean
10-21-2003, 02:55 PM
Try this (http://www.overclockers.com/tips77/)


:)
clocker
10-21-2003, 07:43 PM
Thanks to all of you for your help/advice.

In a couple of days I'll post some pics and we can continue our cooling discussion...
Virtualbody1234
10-21-2003, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by clocker@21 October 2003 - 14:43
Thanks to all of you for your help/advice.

In a couple of days I'll post some pics and we can continue our cooling discussion...
Cool!

I'll be there! :D
clocker
10-21-2003, 07:48 PM
Good, I'd hoped you would be.
clocker
10-23-2003, 06:48 AM
http://galleries.vinyamar.com/ps/show.php?id=2nxChLG945s3aLCl2PpNqmUh7&ext=.jpg
http://galleries.vinyamar.com/ps/show.php?id=9G6VDzaGzXSHrj7koIxB5up4&ext=.jpg

Well, it's here.

Already started screwing around with it.
Tomorrow I'll go pick up the heatsink, I've decided on the big Zalman.
Motherboard ( thanks for the recommendation Lamsey) will be in Friday and then the real fun begins.

I'm going to machine some extra standoffs to tie the heatsink support brackets into the wall that the motherboard sits on. That heatsink is over twice as heavy as AMD recommends so extra support can't hurt. In the reviews that I read no one complained of problems, but what the heck, I've got the material and I've got lathes so I may as well.

The case seems quite well constructed and it has a lot of nice features so I'm very excited about getting it all put together. There are already a shitload of wires just from the seven fans and it's gonna be tough routing everything nicely. Should be interesting.

Will post pics of the heatsink tomorrow.
Billy_Dean
10-23-2003, 09:18 AM
No scimping on this case now Clocker, I want to see some serious modding here.

OverClockers (http://www.overclockers.com/tips1066/) (Rather Apt :) )

And this place looks cool ....

E-Powerhouse. (http://epowerhousepc.com/cgi-bin/store/EPHstore.cgi?user_action=link&link=mainpage)

Maybe we should start a thread on case modding, get peoples pics and ideas.


:)
3RA1N1AC
10-23-2003, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@21 October 2003 - 05:49
Btw. I don't believe in overclocking. I believe in reliability, stabillity and silence.
i think overclocking can be a good thing if you are on a very strict budget and you're able to buy a CPU which is widely known to achieve crazy 24/7 overclocks and maintain stability. for instance, if you can only afford a $50 CPU, but you find one that can be overclocked to the levels of a much more expensive chip without a huge investment in cooling... then by all means, go for it (but go about it wisely, and don't rush in headfirst unless you want to kill the CPU).

i wouldn't bother overclocking expensive equipment, though. guess i'm just not hardcore enough. :rolleyes:
ilw
10-23-2003, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by 3RA1N1AC@23 October 2003 - 12:30
i wouldn't bother overclocking expensive equipment, though. guess i'm just not hardcore enough. :rolleyes:
I'd love to overclock expensive stuff, I'm just not rich enough :(

Btw clocker whats the blue ribbon in the picture for? Good choice on the case btw. I'm not sure I would have gone for the flower cooler (even though it looks spanky), but I'm sure it'll be fine.
jay973
10-23-2003, 11:45 AM
Ive just bought the Lian-Li "fish tank" case.Has anyone heard the good/bad points about it.I didnt research before buying cos my wife was with me and she just railroaded me into buying it,anything for a quiet life! :)
lynx
10-23-2003, 12:15 PM
The Lian-Li cases are generally reckoned to be pretty good, if a little expensive, and should do waht you want. The wife on the other hand sounds very expensive and doesn't do what you want.

Keep the case, get rid of the wife. :lol:
clocker
10-23-2003, 12:49 PM
Originally posted by Billy_Dean@23 October 2003 - 02:18

Maybe we should start a thread on case modding, get peoples pics and ideas.



This (http://www.bit-tech.net/article/114/1) is the most amazing modding article that I've run across yet.
This guy is a true artist.
Be prepared to spend some time...
jay973
10-23-2003, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by lynx@23 October 2003 - 12:15
The wife on the other hand sounds very expensive and doesn't do what you want.

Keep the case, get rid of the wife. :lol:
Thats the best advice Ive had all week! :lol: :lol:
Virtualbody1234
10-23-2003, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by clocker+23 October 2003 - 07:49--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 23 October 2003 - 07:49)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Billy_Dean@23 October 2003 - 02:18

Maybe we should start a thread on case modding, get peoples pics and ideas.



This (http://www.bit-tech.net/article/114/1) is the most amazing modding article that I&#39;ve run across yet.
This guy is a true artist.
Be prepared to spend some time... [/b][/quote]
That&#39;s an awsome mod at that bit-tech web site.
clocker
10-23-2003, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@23 October 2003 - 07:25

That&#39;s an awsome mod at that bit-tech web site.
Isn&#39;t it though?

He takes the concept of "anal-compulsive" to new levels...

I wish the second installment would come out, I really would like to see what&#39;s next.
Cygnuz-Y
10-23-2003, 04:00 PM
There is a review of that case HERE (http://www.tech-mods.net/reviews.php?op=showcontent&id=55)
clocker
10-24-2003, 05:31 PM
OK, this will probably be my last post in this thread.

I think we should start a new topic specifically about case/hardware modifications and less about my particular case. Put on your thinking caps and try to come up with a good topic title- keep in mind that I hope it will stay viable (and visible) for a while.

Anyways....I spent quite a bit of time last night trying to get my wiring sorted. The seven fans alone, not to mention the "case open/shut" switch and the wiring from the case front, etc. contribute to a real potential for a rat&#39;s nest (no offence, Rat Mod).

The fans are a particular problem as this case has a fan control panel so all the wiring has to homerun to one location. Plus, for some unknown reason, all the fan connectors are big, clunky Molex 4-pins with double headers at one end (presumably to accommodate daisy chaining several fans to one control rheostat). The connectors on the control panel are the typical little 3-pin guys.

So I decided to bite the bullet and cut/spliced/soldered/heat wrapped the fan wiring directly to the 3-pin connectors so now all the fan pairs have no intermediate Molex connector blocks to deal with. This could be a prob if one fan from a pair decides to die, but the risk is worth the flexibility I thought.

At this point all the fans are wired and connected. All of the wiring tucks neatly away and I&#39;m happy with the result. I&#39;d post a pic, but I really don&#39;t see the point- the whole idea was not to be able to see any of my work. In later ( hopefully more interesting) pics, the lack of exposed wiring should be obvious.

I am at a standstill ATM, as my new mobo is not in my hot, sticky hands yet, so I am unable to determine where the rest of my wiring needs to go or the best way to get it routed. As I have to be able to drill the wall behind the MB to install the support standoffs for my monsterous heatsink I am loath to make any final decisions until I see how that goes.

Which brings up a question...my fan control panel also has a digital temp display,intended to show CPU temps. To achieve this I&#39;m supposed to sandwich a thermistor between the CPU and it&#39;s socket. This makes me a little nervous. Have any of you guys ever done this? My new board is supposed to have a fairly accurate temp sensor onboard and I&#39;m considering using the thermistor as a temp sensor for temps inside the case and leaving the CPU temps to the MB display.
I&#39;m interested in opinions on this.

Finally, I am also thinking of removing altogether the bay that is supposed to hold the HDDs. As I do not plan on installing a floppy drive I can mount two HDDs in that bay. The thinking here is that the two front fans are directly in the path of the HDD bay, I suppose that their main function is supposed to be providing airflow over the drives. I already have twin fan coolers mounted directly on the HDDs so I really don&#39;t need this extra cooling. My HDD temp rarely exceeds 20C as it is. If I remove this bay the air from the front fans will have an unobstructed path back into the case. Just toying around with the idea so far. I would have to drill out several rivets to accomplish this, but the unit would be reinstallable with screws at a later date should I desire.

OK then, that&#39;s it so far.

I&#39;ll keep my eye on this thread for any replies. Don&#39;t be shy (I know I don&#39;t have to tell you that, BD...), I value any and all input.
Cygnuz-Y
10-24-2003, 07:47 PM
FINALLY some one interested in PC Case mods like me.... :D


I dont think you have to put the sensor in there, why dont you put the sensor in the processor&#39;s heatsink....

You can find all the info about Case mods HERE (http://www.gideontech.com)

They have a forum in there, ask the people there, they might now... B)
clocker
10-25-2003, 01:58 AM
Update...

It&#39;s Friday night (MST) and the damn motherboard did not come today. All I can do is wait and hope it shows up tomorrow. Until it is here I am dead in the water.

Shucks. :angry:
Billy_Dean
10-25-2003, 02:10 AM
Personally clocker, I wouldn&#39;t use a third party temp thingamebob on the CPU, your mobo was designed to do that.

If you use a CPU sensor elswhere, isn&#39;t the temperature range going to be a little high to be useful?


:)
clocker
10-25-2003, 02:34 AM
Originally posted by Billy_Dean@24 October 2003 - 19:10


If you use a CPU sensor elswhere, isn&#39;t the temperature range going to be a little high to be useful?


:)
I&#39;m not sure that I understand.
I think that the supplied thermistor is just a generic temp sensing device. If I just tape it to a casewall somewhere I&#39;m hoping to get a reading on the ambient temps inside the case.

Then, using a cheap digital thermometer outside the case, I hope to gather enough data to see how my future cooling modifications work. To begin with I can just play with the settings of the various fans and see how that effects the cooling efficiency balanced against the noise generation.

At least that&#39;s the plan.
kurtsl0an
10-25-2003, 02:40 AM
hey clocker, i have a cool case but it has 4 blue led colored case fans and is loud as schmell - could i buy a case like ur&#39;s and make it quieter?

i didn&#39;t think i cared about how loud it was, until i got this thing&#33;
clocker
10-25-2003, 03:10 AM
Originally posted by kurtsl0an@24 October 2003 - 19:40
hey clocker, i have a cool case but it has 4 blue led colored case fans and is loud as schmell - could i buy a case like ur&#39;s and make it quieter?

i didn&#39;t think i cared about how loud it was, until i got this thing&#33;
That&#39;s why I&#39;m doing this.

We&#39;ll find out.
kurtsl0an
10-25-2003, 03:17 AM
Originally posted by clocker+25 October 2003 - 03:10--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 25 October 2003 - 03:10)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-kurtsl0an@24 October 2003 - 19:40
hey clocker, i have a cool case but it has 4 blue led colored case fans and is loud as schmell - could i buy a case like ur&#39;s and make it quieter?

i didn&#39;t think i cared about how loud it was, until i got this thing&#33;
That&#39;s why I&#39;m doing this.

We&#39;ll find out. [/b][/quote]
coo - u lemme know&#33; i luv quietness&#33;
Billy_Dean
10-25-2003, 03:27 AM
What I meant was, wouldn&#39;t a sensor designed to measure the temp of a cpu be different to one designed to measure the ambient temp inside the case, the difference in temp of the two is huge. It&#39;s like, a thermometer to take our temperature would be different to one to measure the temp of an oven.

Anyway, you won&#39;t have any cooling probs, you could overclock the shit out of what you&#39;ve got, and still have none.

Of course, if you really want COOL, forget the fans, forget the water coolers, you want this. (http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20001221/index.html)

:)
kurtsl0an
10-25-2003, 03:30 AM
i don&#39;t even care bout heat so much, i don&#39;t overlcock my shit. i just want some friggin SILENCE&#33; - :D
clocker
10-25-2003, 03:52 AM
Originally posted by Billy_Dean@24 October 2003 - 20:27
What I meant was, wouldn&#39;t a sensor designed to measure the temp of a cpu be different to one designed to measure the ambient temp inside the case, the difference in temp of the two is huge. It&#39;s like, a thermometer to take our temperature would be different to one to measure the temp of an oven.

Anyway, you won&#39;t have any cooling probs, you could overclock the shit out of what you&#39;ve got, and still have none.

Of course, if you really want COOL, forget the fans, forget the water coolers, you want this. (http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20001221/index.html)

:)
Don&#39;t know about the sensor range.
Time will tell.

Vapochill rocks&#33;
A bit out of my price range though.

Ain&#39;t technology grand?
Detale
02-18-2009, 08:38 AM
HOLY OLD HARDWARE THREAD BATMAN!!!! Clocker what case was it the link isn't there anymore. LOL and what did Billy Dean get banned for?
clocker
02-18-2009, 01:19 PM
I have no idea.
It may have been a Thermaltake Xazer(?)...the first higher-end case I ever bought.
Total POS, last Thermaltake product I ever used.
Detale
02-20-2009, 03:51 AM
Like this one?
http://www.dcs-online.biz/shop/images/imagess/9305.jpg

seems a bit flashy for you man :P I guess when i grow up I'll like the more streamlined cases myself.
clocker
02-20-2009, 12:40 PM
No, that's a later version.
Mine would have been even more gawdawful.
ryan20021982
02-21-2009, 02:24 AM
From the link it looks like maybe this one?


http://i.neoseeker.com/a/xaser3_v2000a/v2000a.jpghttp://i.neoseeker.com/a/xaser3_v2000a/frontPanel.jpg
clocker
02-21-2009, 03:18 AM
Yup, that's the one.

Yikes.
Detale
02-21-2009, 04:36 AM
What ever happened to that bad boy? You still have it don't you? ADMIT IT!!!
clocker
02-21-2009, 05:01 AM
No.
It was crushed.

Seriously, crushed.
Detale
02-21-2009, 07:05 AM
Like in a good way?
http://image3.clips4sale.com/accounts18/1921/clip_images/boots%20crushing%20computer%20mouse.gif
clocker
02-21-2009, 01:07 PM
Err, no.

In a thorough and complete but non-sexually fetishized way.
Detale
02-21-2009, 06:51 PM
Com now man you must tell.