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darkstate
03-04-2010, 03:07 PM
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Politics/Pix/pictures/2001/03/09/pub_lords2.gifUK Government defeated over measures to tackle online piracy
March 4, 2010 12:14 GMT

" The government has been defeated in the House of Lords over measures to tackle online piracy after opponents said the plans could hamper digital innovation.

Ministers want the power to change laws on online copyright in future without the need for further legislation. The Lords said the "blanket nature" of the clause was "objectionable". But their chosen replacement - giving courts the right to block internet sites which are infringing copyright - has also prompted criticism.

The government argued that the new Digital Economy Bill should include the power to amend copyright law to ensure legislation could cope with more technically advanced forms of piracy in the future.

But Google and Facebook were among the firms to express "grave concerns" about the provision, saying it could allow ministers to "increase monitoring of user data even where no illegal practice has taken place". "

:source: Source: Lords force rethink of government's online piracy plans (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/8549112.stm)

c0ld
03-04-2010, 09:46 PM
They have still given copyright holders the right to demand ISPs block access to infringing sites. Not good.

sagem
03-12-2010, 08:49 PM
hehe piracy wins again

peteleeds
03-18-2010, 10:48 AM
Legislation to tackle internet piracy, including bans for illegal file-sharers, has been passed by the Lords. The Digital Economy Bill is now expected to be rushed through the Commons before the general election.
Peers had earlier rejected a bid by ministers to include wide-ranging powers over future online piracy law.
But despite criticism, the government said it was still committed to giving courts the power to block websites which are infringing copyright.
The bill, put forward by Business Secretary Lord Mandelson, has been welcomed by the music industry because it includes plans to suspend the internet accounts of people who persistently download material illegally.
But firms such as British Telecom, Google and Facebook say that would be unfair and illegal file-sharers should be fined instead of cut off.
Earlier this month, peers defeated the government when they rejected a clause giving ministers the power to change laws on online copyright in future without the need for further legislation.
'Unintended consequences'
But their chosen replacement - a measure allowing courts to use injunctions to force internet service providers (ISPs) to block certain websites - also prompted criticism from companies, consumer rights campaigners and academics.
They argued it would lead to "blocking based on accusation rather than a court injunction" and could shut down sites like Google and YouTube.
Liberal Democrat media spokesman Lord Clement-Jones, who led the moves for the replacement clause, offered "clarifications and improvements" during the bill's third reading on Monday evening.
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Jim Killock
Open Rights Group


He did not, however, put them to the vote.
Instead, junior business minister Lord Young of Norwood Green said the Lib Dem amendment was incompatible with the EU Technical Standards Directive.
He said it would "not be capable of being enforced" and could lead to "unforeseen and unintended consequences".
But Lord Young told peers: "It is our intention to try to bring forward, as the bill moves to the Commons, a clause that would seek to ultimately achieve the same effect."
This would include a power for the secretary of state "to bring forward regulations to achieve the desired effect of site blocking", he added.
And it would allow for "proper consultation and consideration of the evidence for the need and the proportionality of the measure".
Lord Young said his offer was a "sincere and constructive commitment" and he had "tried to address the genuine concerns that have been expressed".
Lord Clement-Jones, while warning of "many a slip between cup and lip", agreed to wait for the government's amendment.
Amendment wording
Jim Killock, executive director of the Open Rights Group, said Lord Mandelson was "preparing to rush through this draconian legislation without democratic debate".
"We are calling for massive campaign of citizens to demand that their MPs debate this dangerous bill."
Last week, it emerged that the wording of the Lib Dem amendment was almost identical to a draft written by the BPI, which lobbies on behalf of the British music industry.
The BPI said opposition parties "saw it as a good framework for what they wanted to put down" .
Chief executive Geoff Taylor welcomed the bill's passing, adding: "It is vital for the future of the UK's creative sector that the Digital Economy Bill is adopted."
But Andrew Robinson, from Pirate Party UK, which campaigns on the issue, said: "The public will not respect a law that was quite literally written by the record industry, for the record industry.
"As it stands, the bill is fatally flawed, and fundamentally unjust."

Xiomax
03-26-2010, 06:13 PM
Piracy rulez

Speedo
03-26-2010, 10:27 PM
You people haven't had a working government for years. Why so suprised?