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hidalgo
03-09-2010, 02:07 PM
As many of you I am looking more for quality HD rips than speeding releases from the scene with crappy bitrates, average 8500kbps on 1080p releases lately.

Now, my question is to know if all good HD rips from groups such as ctrlhd, esir, wiki, eureka,... are joining the NG servers or we just get a bunch of them?

if i run a search on esir for 1080p, i get very few posts
http://www.binsearch.info/index.php?q=esir+1080p&m=&max=100&adv_g=&adv_age=600&adv_sort=date&minsize=6000&maxsize=&font=&postdate=

same for eureka, http://www.binsearch.info/index.php?q=eureka+1080p&m=&max=100&adv_g=&adv_age=600&adv_sort=date&minsize=6000&maxsize=&font=&postdate=

is this because the groups are releasing less? or we get less of them joining the NGs?

for example the last movie of clooney, the only release available on NGs is the cinefile one (8559kbps) (except the full blu-ray).
Are there other releases around in the private trackers?

thanks guys :-)

Beck38
03-10-2010, 02:37 AM
You are either searching wrong, or that index site (binsearch?) is a bit lean on their indexing.

The amount of 1080P stuff, recoded to >10Kb/s, is so massive that I've filled up one 10TB Raid array and am about to start on my second (this over about 6 months). All the major folks/groups. I don't touch ANYTHING other than NG's, it's simply not worth it.

And, I usually don't get anything without DTS audio (from TrueHD OR DTS-HD-MA), AND with heavy emphasis on those that include all the commentary tracks and such. Doing so, I STILL fill my connection up 24x7. Last month exceeded 1.5TB. Obviously have NO limits.

Best search site: NZBMatrix
Secondardy: Newzbin

Most decent folks put out comprehensive nfo's, those that don't I avoid unless it's the only one of that movie.

But meanwhile, I find myself still about around 500 days back PLUS grabbing stuff. At some point, I'll catch up, but don't hold your breath.

Update (somewhat):

If you're talking about 'up in the air' movie (Clooney), it literally just got released YESTERDAY, so only those folks who got a 'jump the gun' copy had access to it. Wait a couple weeks, and they'll start showing up (both the full-rip's and the x264 recodes).

There are a fair amount of 'full rips' but not that many, due (obviously) to the size and time requirements. VERY FEW people have access to extreme upload speeds, esp. in the U.S., or have the patience to post something that takes a week or so (50GB).

iLOVENZB
03-10-2010, 11:36 AM
Now, my question is to know if all good HD rips from groups such as ctrlhd, esir, wiki, eureka,... are joining the NG servers or we just get a bunch of them?

if i run a search on esir for 1080p, i get very few posts
http://www.binsearch.info/index.php?q=esir+1080p&m=&max=100&adv_g=&adv_age=600&adv_sort=date&minsize=6000&maxsize=&font=&postdate=

same for eureka, http://www.binsearch.info/index.php?q=eureka+1080p&m=&max=100&adv_g=&adv_age=600&adv_sort=date&minsize=6000&maxsize=&font=&postdate=

is this because the groups are releasing less? or we get less of them joining the NGs?

for example the last movie of clooney ...
Are there other releases around in the private trackers?

It's usually the fillers (on IRC) who download from the groups FTP or torrent site and then post it to Usenet.

There is in fact 1080p's of Up In The Air on private trackers

http://toptorrents.org/search/up-in-the-air.html


You are either searching wrong, or that index site (binsearch?) is a bit lean on their indexing.[1]

The amount of 1080P stuff, recoded to >10Kb/s, is so massive that I've filled up one 10TB Raid array[2]

If you're talking about 'up in the air' movie (Clooney), it literally just got released YESTERDAY...[3]

There are a fair amount of 'full rips' but not that many, due (obviously) to the size and time requirements. VERY FEW people have access to extreme upload speeds, esp. in the U.S., or have the patience to post something that takes a week or so (50GB).[4]

[1] Yeah, BinSearch doesn't index all groups, but then again most are posted in a.b.hdtv.x264 or a.b.x264

[2] I do hope you mean 10mb/s :P

[3] Actually CiNEFiLE pred it over 14days ago.

[4] You sure you're looking hard enough? If you are then request it (EFNet: #alt.binaries.hdtv.x264)

Beck38
03-11-2010, 02:33 AM
[4] You sure you're looking hard enough? If you are then request it (EFNet: #alt.binaries.hdtv.x264)

The problem with the 'full' Blu-Ray HD stuff coming out of Europe (Region B, or the far east, Region C), is that the discs usually don't have the dir/dp/cast commentaries, due to copyright restrictions.

So, I stick to the Region A releases (mostly), which unfortunately are a small percentage posted next to those areas of the world with FAR better internet connectivity. But there are things (from those regions) that aren't currently available in RegA (but without any extras like the commentaries) so I have to live with it until it gets released (to RegA).

In fact, I'm sucking just such a disc (full 40GB) that is released in Europe, but not in N. Am. Unfortunately, again, there are dir/cast commentaries on the SD version, and probably will be on the BR version here, IF and WHEN it ever gets released. So I'll have to to a lot of messing around to 'make it better' now, or wait until the actual RegA release.

Thems the breaks.

And oh, yep, a slight mistake ordering mr. finger(s) to hit the right key, I meant 10Mb/s! Although the 'really' good action flick stuff from excellent recoders are in the 15mb/s+ range, or BR25.

whiteboy
03-12-2010, 05:26 PM
No a lot of the stuff that is coming from HDbits (which is where most of the stuff the OP is talking about originates. Does not hit NG. As far as searching for esir. They hardly release these days. There are a ton of new groups releasing on hdbits, CtrlHD still does quite a bit but its more tv shows and blu rays it seems.

There is plenty of quality stuff on NG though. Also stuff from groups that you dont see on torrent sites so you get a nice selection.

Solariz
03-28-2010, 04:07 PM
The amount of 1080P stuff, recoded to >10Kb/s, is so massive that I've filled up one 10TB Raid array and am about to start on my second (this over about 6 months).

Talk about being dedicated to a cause :yup:

MultiForce
03-29-2010, 02:30 AM
The amount of 1080P stuff, recoded to >10Kb/s, is so massive that I've filled up one 10TB Raid array and am about to start on my second (this over about 6 months).

Talk about being dedicated to a cause :yup:

Got to be retired(retarded?) or something :whistling

Beck38
03-29-2010, 05:44 AM
Talk about being dedicated to a cause :yup:

Got to be retired(retarded?) or something :whistling

I retired right after my 50th. Actually, the paperwork was in some 3+ months before. Shows you what REAL dedication is!

For the really good flicks, I lean toward NO recode at all (~2-30+GB). Sucks up disc space like crazy.

But the tools for processing all this are just getting good. Real Good. The only thing I'm lacking right now, is something that will give one the ability to play the movie (in a window) while 'tweaking' the audio delay, this for taking audio from a different source (like a commentary) that for whatever reason isn't on the HD release.

That way, one could figure out the 'off-set' (to where one gets to lip-sync) and plug that figure into one of the recoder programs. A couple folks have done it with high-end s/w programs, but I don't think I'm going that route.

MultiForce
03-29-2010, 03:35 PM
Got to be retired(retarded?) or something :whistling

I retired right after my 50th. Actually, the paperwork was in some 3+ months before. Shows you what REAL dedication is!

For the really good flicks, I lean toward NO recode at all (~2-30+GB). Sucks up disc space like crazy.

But the tools for processing all this are just getting good. Real Good. The only thing I'm lacking right now, is something that will give one the ability to play the movie (in a window) while 'tweaking' the audio delay, this for taking audio from a different source (like a commentary) that for whatever reason isn't on the HD release.

That way, one could figure out the 'off-set' (to where one gets to lip-sync) and plug that figure into one of the recoder programs. A couple folks have done it with high-end s/w programs, but I don't think I'm going that route.

Seems like I got work to do if I have to keep up then but I need a faster connection before I can ditch the rips. So far they are good enough for me though as long as I go for 1080p.

Solariz
03-29-2010, 03:51 PM
Seems like I got work to do if I have to keep up then but I need a faster connection before I can ditch the rips. So far they are good enough for me though as long as I go for 1080p.

I have compared a few good 1080p rips to full BluRays on my 50" HDTV and picture wise I cannot tell which is witch.
Only reason to go for the full discs would be for the audio I would think

iLOVENZB
03-30-2010, 07:16 AM
Seems like I got work to do if I have to keep up then but I need a faster connection before I can ditch the rips. So far they are good enough for me though as long as I go for 1080p.

I have compared a few good 1080p rips to full BluRays on my 50" HDTV and picture wise I cannot tell which is witch.
Only reason to go for the full discs would be for the audio I would think

Because them 'good' 1080p are usually just remux's of the Full BD (Usually only one to two audio streams).

whiteboy
03-30-2010, 02:09 PM
I have compared a few good 1080p rips to full BluRays on my 50" HDTV and picture wise I cannot tell which is witch.
Only reason to go for the full discs would be for the audio I would think

Because them 'good' 1080p are usually just remux's of the Full BD (Usually only one to two audio streams).
An encode is an encode and a remux is a remux. 2 different things. If it is x264 it is not a remux. Most remux's are clearly marked. And most 1080p releases are encodes.