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jderu
04-01-2010, 09:34 PM
I never had 1 hit&run anywhere,
Never cheated anywhere,
Always i respected every community

I have over 2 years my account on whatcd;
with about 61GB upload 29Gb download

it's pretty hard to do a buffer so i downloaded mostly on freelech torrents/ freeleech events

and today i was going to download some stuff being freeleech also to have a nice buffer, i don't mind seeding for weeks non-stop

i think i downloaded (not all completed) about 130 lossless albums; more interested in good quality now :P

i lost a external hdd so i have to redownload all lost music....

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3416/tgvcddd.jpg

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/9216/rgnhytttttttt.jpg

-> sort by upload amount in utorrent -so it can be visible /all only whatcd


http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/708/stattttttdjkdefefe.jpg
Crap already past 12 midnight so the upload amount for yesterday got reset... anyway over 10 000 hours with utorrent, program started 166 times at max.; but that are my stats

> i stopped uTP connections, i hear it's bad in 2.0

I even have the irc log; because i don't believe this i still think is an april's fools or something;

They gived me no chance to explain, totally ignored me...
So i ask an whatcd mod, admin plese can you look into, see that i seed, i have everything in order... if need ask me anything on PM or something

I done nothing to deserve this treatment; today i reached ~66,3 Gb upload after two years there, (some torrents uploaded in the past deleted for inactivity) and 1 uploaded recently which is still active and seeding .


i seed 24/7 if my internet connection doesn't drop
i use the same port always
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9263/de3r4454545cccccc.jpg

anon
04-01-2010, 09:43 PM
Another "What.cd banned me" thread, heh. Wait for WhatMan or another mod to see this.

What did they tell you on IRC, exactly?

jderu
04-01-2010, 09:45 PM
i was ignored or something, i want a fair processing like everyone, more proofs i offered here so that should be enough to create an opinion

if i downloaded with 3MB/s that counts as faking? :))

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4601/irccch45746358734543.jpg

Tokeman
04-01-2010, 09:48 PM
Wheres the beginning of the convo?

jderu
04-01-2010, 09:49 PM
you want it in print screen on text?

i edited with mspaint mails and some data...

i was totally ignored, well that what i think

give an innocent man a chance

Tokeman
04-01-2010, 09:51 PM
He says you offered screen shots etc, but thats not in the convo, so there was obviously discussion above what you pasted. I was asking where that was? Maybe theres insite there? You are showing 1/2 of your IRC convo, for all we know, he told you why just above that.

jderu
04-01-2010, 09:53 PM
i put screenshots ONLY here; will post everything; i know you don't believe me....

too bad

edit: should i post here? or PM

anyway why disabled when i seed 24/7 same ports, got read of the old router so i use now my old mac address

here a total of 5 more print screens;
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7670/ircconvvv1.jpg

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/5158/ircconvvv2.jpg

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/2816/ircconvvv3.jpg


http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/9870/ircconvvv4.jpg


http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/1854/ircconvvv5.jpg

this last part already posted here

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4601/irccch45746358734543.jpg

so i lost my hdd got another, with this freeleech oportunity was my chance to get some albums back

my utorrent works non-stop, where is the justice if i get disabled for seeding/leeching and keeping so many torrents alive....

All i search with this is to get my account back and enabled, so i need your help

link to number 2; i don't know why is not showing above where i put it before...
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/5158/ircconvvv2.jpg

Tv Controls you
04-01-2010, 11:19 PM
All i search with this is to get my account back and enabled, so i need your help

Sickofjesus is one of the staff that still come around here, I think I scared off the rest.

Hide all other information pertaining to other torrent sites, because they will redistribute your personal information to other trackers without your consent. (just warning you)

jderu
04-01-2010, 11:37 PM
thank you TV Controls you should i private message him or wait for the resolve?


I only hoped that here they will be more friendly and see that i'm not a cheater, i don't hit &run, i hope i proved that, i'm more that the average p2p user,

i don't find this fair, didn't happen to me to get disabled, only for inactivity i left those accounts to get disabled/deleted because i didn't use them anymore,
but never like this... i'm feeling like i should get a lawyer so he can talk to them :( also i feel disappointed if i was contacted on PM, asked, i only have 1 post there, maybe 2-3 thank you comments, never insulted anyone...

I don't see leeching in one day 130+ torrents as a crime (i explained here i lost my old external hdd), i have a 2 years account; if they don't like being leeched could easily pun a slot limit for downloads...

Tv Controls you
04-01-2010, 11:43 PM
I only hoped that here they will be more friendly and see that i'm not a cheater, i don't hit &run, i hope i proved that, i'm more that the average p2p user,

i don't find this fair, didn't happen to me to get disabled, only for inactivity i left those accounts to get disabled/deleted because i didn't use them anymore,
but never like this... i'm feeling like i should get a lawyer so he can talk to them also i feel disappointed if i was contacted on PM, asked, i only have 1 post there, maybe 2-3 thank you comments, never insulted anyone...

Pming him won't help, I would go to the disabled channel and tell them to come here, but I'm like 5x ip banned lol. They will show up here, trust me.

They are under the assumption that they never make a mistake when someone is disabled, so it is highly likely you won't get your account re enabled.

anon
04-01-2010, 11:45 PM
Not that you can PM sickofjesus here anyway, his account hasn't reached full privileges.

jderu
04-01-2010, 11:45 PM
* Connect retry #99 irc.what-network.net (6667)
-
-s2.what-network.net- *** Banned, if you believe this is in error, please contact a staff member on What.CD or have someone ask on your behalf on this network.

i wonder how do i contact now a staff member...

this is ruining my reputation...

i hope they come here or PM me to ask any proofs necesary

Tv Controls you
04-01-2010, 11:55 PM
jderu we both knows why you are disabled so lets no play games anymore.

Favorite quote lol.

Jderu have you logged on to what.cd on any other computer other than your own house where you seed from?

jderu
04-01-2010, 11:59 PM
i have a dynamic IP atm
i changed ISPs before in 2 years dunno maybe 3-4 times, i work in another town for summer i go home it depends,
that was never a problem anywhere, I only login ONLY from my laptop same ports, same OS, same browser, never shared accounts, same torrents are seeding for months or weeks;

that is not a reason to disable, i only want that big lossless community whatcd is big so finding rare stuffs there i like is nice,... i share back, there is no problem for me

but that's all i managed on what in 2 years and 1 moth....
61 GB and today +5GB with a total of 195 torrents seeding/leeching
on utorrent: Downloading is left 43 from whatcd to download... some partial downloaded... some on standby

Tv Controls you
04-02-2010, 12:01 AM
i have a dynamic IP atm
i changed ISPs before in 2 years dunno maybe 3-4 times, i work in another town for summer i go home it depends,
that was never a problem anywhere, I only login ONLY from my laptop same ports, same OS, same browser, never shared accounts, same torrents are seeding for months or weeks

Have you recently used a different ip address is what I mean.

Trust me I believe you did nothing wrong, they may have just linked your account with someone elses. (that's how they screwed me)

IdolEyes787
04-02-2010, 12:01 AM
Not that you can PM sickofjesus here anyway, his account hasn't reached full privileges.

Someone should look into that and make the obvious exception.

Slickerey
04-02-2010, 12:08 AM
Someone should look into that and make the obvious exception.

Too bad you're not a mod here anymore. :ermm:

Where's Cabalo and the other staffers? :naughty:

jderu
04-02-2010, 12:11 AM
Have you recently used a different ip address is what I mean.

Trust me I believe you did nothing wrong, they may have just linked your account with someone elses. (that's how they screwed me)

No, only my isp with a slow bad router; now no more router so it wont disconnect me;
i have this isp from january "RDS", (2010 till now) dynanic ip
- from September to January i had "pronetit.ro" (2009) fixed ip
- before that my own home ISP for the hole summer (that was reall slow speed :( 2009 summer) was fixed ip...
-and before last summer was RDS, from last year's january to summer i think july (2009) also dynamic ip
- 2008 - i had also rds but another location may 2008 till december 2008) dynamic ofcourse

Thank you all for your support, i don't think you can ban people for having dynamic ip's it's just too much of a gable if one gets a blacklisted ip he is done for...

Tv Controls you
04-02-2010, 12:20 AM
Thank you all for your support, i don't think you can ban people for having dynamic ip's it's just too much of a gable if one gets a blacklisted ip he is done for...

They didn't ban you for having a dynamic ip. They will probably try saying you got kicked for ratio watch, trading, or cheating.

jderu
04-02-2010, 12:24 AM
trading? :)) no that can't be
they took my invites last year, never they said who of my invitees what they done...

can't punish me twice let alone by disable (they took the invites once) how will i bring others? anyway i don't invite no one it's safer i think, and no much posts even here on FST, no trading stars nothing like that :))
so no trading can be invoked

usually those who invited me on some trackers got disabled, but i'm there taking the test of time
and i wasn't disabled even if my inviter got disabled or something

66Gb upload /29Gb download.. in 2 years... seeding for months; ratio 2+ i think... it's not much... but i tried to build a buffer by seeding lucky i found some free torrents that helped a bit, maybe someone will grab what i have... thou seedboxes kill anything
i hope someone can reenable this hard worked account...

FreeCandy
04-02-2010, 12:57 AM
2 years you spend seeding on tracker, and that is how they say "thanks" to you?
I am not member there, and i don't want to be, ever! :noes:

But why ban without explanation? Did you use some kind of scripts for cheating? Maybe they have scripts for detecting cheating, or that script is wrong or you really cheat.
I would love to see moderator of what here, with explanation.

Even if i am not member on what, they fall down in my eyes forever.
Tracker with i don't want to have any business. :ermm:

7th
04-02-2010, 01:04 AM
If his IP is dynamic, I understand he changed IP but this should be normal.

Is uTorrent 2.0 permitted at what already? I'm not a member there but I think they don't. =/

The would explain all the red arrows in the uTorrent screens.

IdolEyes, now you're GREEN! =P

jderu
04-02-2010, 01:05 AM
do not accuse me of cheating; look at all print screens, there is no script, only utorrent working for days, weeks non-stop

for me is not hard to prove my seeding, my times, my buffer; all explained in screenshots

edit:
they promoted utorrent 2.0 so yes is used there

Slickerey
04-02-2010, 02:15 AM
If that is the case, then chances are that because you have a dynamic IP, your IP address was changed and maybe you were given the IP address of another trader/cheater, so they assumed that you were that same person with a duplicate account.

It's a wild guess, but it can happen to anyone.

thisguy
04-02-2010, 02:21 AM
obviously you did somthing bad 2.0 is banned but i dont think they would have been stuck up like that unless you cheated or somthing, perhaps someone else had access to your axx

sheriff 01
04-02-2010, 02:42 AM
@ OP - Do you have a younger brother that may have logged into your account and cheated your ratio just to help you out. Lmao!!!

God how i love that story, it never gets old!!!

dackel
04-02-2010, 03:24 AM
hmm... imo you seem to be a good member at what (seeing your screenshots).

i/we don't know the "whole" background of the story but it seems that you have broken one of their "golden" rules [like others before (no teasing intended)].

your best bet will be to wait for whatman's or sickofjesus reply.

jderu
04-02-2010, 04:47 AM
i think i covered this already, no one used this account but me,
i can't take finger prints from my laptop but i can assure you no one else got access to this account, it's mine, my laptop for home use, only i use it, same mail from the beginning, ports and all of that



i broke no rule,
i'll continue to printscreen with mspaint until any doubt is gone
my utorrent is running, running and running i hope uploading too :P

if i wasn't right will i'll do this for no reason? i have no brother also i work in another town...

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/9025/1sdweretrgg.jpg
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/7947/2fdsgdgtrrrrr.jpg

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/2370/3sdertrrrrr.jpg

any staff that can help me, there is no cheating, there is no reason why this account is not in good standing

i only need 9 hours to reach 11 000 hours with utorrent

Cabalo
04-02-2010, 05:27 AM
Most probably you might have been banned for being at a tree, somewhere downstream from an invite seller. It has happened somewhat often lately.



Someone should look into that and make the obvious exception.

Too bad you're not a mod here anymore. :ermm:

Where's Cabalo and the other staffers? :naughty:
Here !!
I can't promote users (only demote them).

jderu
04-02-2010, 05:58 AM
don't think so, didn't invited anyone over a year
i was downloading with ~3MB/s the big pack (Bach), some have good internet speeds, i think i uploaded at that pack about 2GB at about 150kbps and then they disabled my account

from the utorrent statistics you can clearly see i don't use uTP connections only TCP

i've seen the howto here on FST about disabling uTP connections the users talked about it (but i wasn't given no chance to explain, i was nothing asked on irc...)

all i managed was 66 GB upload in 2 years!!!, really low buffer, so i thought seeding for months 200 torrents or more will really help

probably because i didn't took mainstream albums, or stuff that is known by many

Bucharest
http://www.speedtest.net/result/769170965.png

London 2 tests
http://www.speedtest.net/result/769176760.png
http://www.speedtest.net/result/769176369.png

Stockholm 2 tests
http://www.speedtest.net/result/769175066.png
http://www.speedtest.net/result/769174567.png

New York 2 tests
http://www.speedtest.net/result/769179353.png
http://www.speedtest.net/result/769180192.png

Felixer
04-02-2010, 10:05 AM
your state is better than mine,
don't see a reason to ban you if you didn't cheat...

maybe they just made a mistake....thought you were cheating or something...

human make mistakes, staffs are human..

but not everyone will admit his/her mistake tho, so good luck :P

jderu
04-02-2010, 11:07 AM
all i wanted was a fair chance to recover my account (you can see in the irc screens some guy was lucky - he convinced that he was alright) -- I seed/leech 195 more than he was

why can't i have a fair chance...

(all i ask a chance to recover my account - nothing else)

all my printscreens are more than enough to convince anyone

lysine
04-02-2010, 12:06 PM
all my printscreens are more than enough to convince anyone

screenshots don't really prove anything. the tracker has the http logs and can see all of the announces your client has made to the tracker. perhaps these showed an abnormality.

it could also have nothing to do with your torrenting activity on the site. personally, I think you were caught cheating. like mn mentioned, why are you so quick to post screenshots, etc...?

this should be an interesting one to read if the what staff decide to give their side of the story.

cinephilia
04-02-2010, 12:09 PM
all my printscreens are more than enough to convince anyone
you already said that several times... now calm down a bit and wait patiently for the final answer.

jderu
04-02-2010, 12:52 PM
cheating :)) 66Gb in 2 years
what do you want? camrecorder on utorrent?
he said nothing on irc, only i was trying to get my account back,
not even finished this torrent and disabled me; i'm seeding everything even now; of course is unregistered torrent pass

(was taken as i saw my torrents become red)
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3416/tgvcddd.jpg


taken now

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/7243/d456677ffff.jpg


edit:
anyway what i'm trying to prove is Utorrent was last started on 15 march 2010 since then works non-stop, never stopped this client; i changed the router so i login through pppoe so i got another IP but utorrent was still running and it is now
hmm probably will have to do a movie on utorrent

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/4927/rtyfrgthyhy.jpg



And yes cinephilia you are right, will wait for their response :(

Tv Controls you
04-02-2010, 02:25 PM
jderu just calm down and wait for a mod to come.

ca_aok
04-02-2010, 02:28 PM
cheating http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/../../images/smilies/smile.gif) 66Gb in 2 years
Not every cheat uploads 2PB in a day, just the idiots. The screenshots don't really prove much... also, why is there a bar in the IRC log mid conversation with mn, and how come unlike the other logs you can't see the rest of the window? Just out of curiosity, maybe it's an mIRC thing. None of us can see your stats anyway to verify that since handily you had paranoia 5 turned on.

jderu
04-02-2010, 03:36 PM
just answering to ca_aok

after waiting some time i put timestamp ON (irc option), so i'll know at what time i was asked/my turn, i left to buy me some chocolate and stuff from a local store
So 30-40 minutes i was away... (if i wasn't leaving i would have no reason to turn timestamp On... - so was just luck)

will do a movie if you need proof of irc, use PM -i have the irc window on
yes paranoia lvl5 after SCT was shut down i use privacy everywhere i can

anon
04-02-2010, 04:27 PM
yes paranoia lvl5 after SCT was shut down i use privacy everywhere i can

Paranoia won't protect you for that matter. It'll only hide some details (stats, current activity, snatches, etc.) from non-staff members.

Slickerey
04-02-2010, 04:32 PM
Take a screenshot of your computer's entire screen with the µTorrent window open.

Never mind, you already did that.

Tv Controls you
04-02-2010, 04:37 PM
Could you snap a picture of the cheat client your using?

WhatMan
04-02-2010, 04:52 PM
I suspect that jderu and qdo0obp are friends. They showed up in the disabled channel at the same time, posted at this forum at the same time, and even like the same cheating tools.

We can be nice to disabled people - even cheaters. But not when they lie to us. That's just disrespectful.

Tv Controls you
04-02-2010, 04:57 PM
I suspect that jderu and qdo0obp are friends. They showed up in the disabled channel at the same time, posted at this forum at the same time, and even like the same cheating tools.

We can be nice to disabled people - even cheaters. But not when they lie to us. That's just disrespectful.

Banning people off assumptions again are we, whatman?

You were really nice to jderu.... Bullshit.. Your staff didn't even have the decency to tell him why he was banned.
Talk about disrespect... this guy has seeded for you guys for 2 years!

jderu
04-02-2010, 05:11 PM
I suspect that jderu and qdo0obp are friends. They showed up in the disabled channel at the same time, posted at this forum at the same time, and even like the same cheating tools.

We can be nice to disabled people - even cheaters. But not when they lie to us. That's just disrespectful.

i did not lied,

i even done a video with the irc and utorrent as another proof, i can seed, i have the original client

http://rapidshare.com/files/371204677/someunimportantstuff.rar.html

my stats show more than enough
11003 hours on utorrent; was online from 15.03 until now, i'm still online, same port on utorrent, my old mac addres, just Ip changen the rest is the same; i do have a dynamic ip... ; some speed tests on other pages...

edit:
no i don't know him, i want my account back, did you read anything? -that is all, my account back

my utorrent2.0 is from official page, totally ignored even here, now


what more can i do? a fair chance like the others, seeding/leeching 195 torrents
i'm disabled but i'm still seeding back; i done nothing wrong to nobody :(

i can hold 200 torrents, as i said uTP was disabled by instructions from here, saying that utorr 2.0 has some problems...

WhatMan how can i prove that i didn't cheat?

Polarbear
04-02-2010, 05:46 PM
An banned user who assumedly cheated
A cheater who developes tools so that others can cheat
And a sysop who detects those tools.

All in one thread. Happy Easter! :lol:

jderu
04-02-2010, 06:08 PM
i offered proof, you only insulted me bringing nothing, why is that :(

did you do this with others? for fun or on a hunch... i'll disable this one

just say the torrent's name and watch my video or i'll print screen more, no matter if my laptop brokes i'll buy another, i seed, i can seed even more

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8821/seeeeeeeemytime.jpg

isn't nice when someone knows more than you?
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6963/ut20jderustatssss.jpg

how can someone ignore the last launched, was online all this time, using one port :(

do the right thing... please
how can i as a user, after all this everything, so i tried so much to recover my account, i can't even get an answer...

emperorIX
04-02-2010, 06:21 PM
I suspect that jderu and qdo0obp are friends. They showed up in the disabled channel at the same time, posted at this forum at the same time, and even like the same cheating tools.

We can be nice to disabled people - even cheaters. But not when they lie to us. That's just disrespectful.

Banning people off assumptions again are we, whatman?

You were really nice to jderu.... Bullshit.. Your staff didn't even have the decency to tell him why he was banned.
Talk about disrespect... this guy has seeded for you guys for 2 years!

Lol, what assumption are you referring to? The likely correct assumption that he was cheating along with his "friend"?

Seriously, if someone were trying to cheat me, I would have shown him a lot less respect than he received in the disabled channel. What do cheaters expect?

jderu, I have seen few people on here who were actually innocent and when it was shown that they did do nothing wrong, their accounts were re-enabled, as you witnessed and pointed out in the disabled channel.

I would refrain from listening to someone like TVControlsYou. He creates dupe accounts (What) and tries to sell invites (Waffles), then cries foul when he's caught. I don't know about anyone else, but I have absolutely no respect for invite/account sellers.

He reminds me of a little dog yipping at your heals whenever he takes part in these What disabled threads, trying so hard to get your attention.

Tv Controls you
04-02-2010, 06:34 PM
Lol, what assumption are you referring to? The likely correct assumption that he was cheating along with his "friend"?

Yes.... Under what grounds is that even nearly a legitimate reason to list as stacking evidence.
I know it may have been confusing when I referred to an assumption created by what.cd Staff members, as I would be inclined to agree that they do assume alot.
I'm sorry for not specifying.

I will disregard all your ignorant comments pertaining to me as you seem to know nothing, and arguing would lead no where.

IdolEyes787
04-02-2010, 06:50 PM
I suspect that jderu and qdo0obp are friends. They showed up in the disabled channel at the same time, posted at this forum at the same time, and even like the same cheating tools.

We can be nice to disabled people - even cheaters. But not when they lie to us. That's just disrespectful.

Banning people off assumptions again are we, whatman?

You were really nice to jderu.... Bullshit.. Your staff didn't even have the decency to tell him why he was banned.
Talk about disrespect... this guy has seeded for you guys for 2 years!

Since I don't have all the facts I will refrain from passing judgment on anyone here but I have a little bit of experience when it comes to people attempting to pass a lie off as the truth and I have to agree with WhatMan on this one all , all the denied similarities happening purely at random stretches the limit of plausibility .
Under similar circumstances here my first thought would actually have been that both accounts are the same person and the onus would be on the OP to prove otherwise.

Tv Controls you
04-02-2010, 06:51 PM
Under similar circumstances here my first thought would actually have been that both accounts are the same person and the onus would be on the OP to prove otherwise.

A mod should check if they are dupe accounts on here.

jderu
04-02-2010, 07:03 PM
lol, i was disabled because i have an unlikable flag they hate, and won't analyze speed connections seed time...

will move to another country if this is more plausible

it's impossible this can't be happening, gaved you speed tests, anything what you need so you can form an opinion based on facts,

and lets go by guessing
i only proved that whatcd lied; what did whatcd staff do? helped? even looked at my profile?

if i'm right doesn't matter anyway, but i'm innocent, i think i proved that all in the open

If this proves a lost cause i want everyone to know that i did not received a fair processing or even a chance...

seeding 11k hours it's not crap, it matters to me;
i know the truth, justice is blind or lost interest after a while

IdolEyes787
04-02-2010, 07:03 PM
Under similar circumstances here my first thought would actually have been that both accounts are the same person and the onus would be on the OP to prove otherwise. A mod should check if they are dupe accounts on here.

Sometimes that's impossible to prove and nothing can be done without proof. With experience though you tend to get a feeling for that sort of thing and more times than not you are proven right somewhere further down the road.
Of course I could throw a marble in the air around here and have it come down and hit six or seven cheaters so maybe I'm over-estimating my own skill.

Tv Controls you
04-02-2010, 07:11 PM
lol, i was disabled because i have an unlikable flag they hate, and won't analyze speed connections seed time...

That's an automatic g line, saying that what.cd is racist. lol

brightsid
04-02-2010, 07:35 PM
In the cases of qdo0obp and jderu, they can come to the What.CD IRC and ask for me. However, one lie, and they'll be banned from the network. I don't have time to waste with liars.

You have a chance. Don't waste it

arpit60
04-04-2010, 12:52 PM
there staff are like that only !

cinephilia
04-04-2010, 01:37 PM
I suspect that jderu and qdo0obp are friends. They showed up in the disabled channel at the same time, posted at this forum at the same time, and even like the same cheating tools.

We can be nice to disabled people - even cheaters. But not when they lie to us. That's just disrespectful.

Banning people off assumptions again are we, whatman?

You were really nice to jderu.... Bullshit.. Your staff didn't even have the decency to tell him why he was banned.
Talk about disrespect... this guy has seeded for you guys for 2 years!
read again. the guy has been banned for cheating in the first place.
his assumptions have just strengthened him in his conviction.

xisabella
04-05-2010, 01:50 AM
in my mind if you does not lay for tracker. this will never show out.

fairtrader
04-05-2010, 06:00 PM
^Sell yourself for English classes.


somebody had to say it.:(

sez
04-05-2010, 07:12 PM
If it were upto me,I'd probably re-enable him.This guy is funny as fuck lol(went to buy chocolate? :lol: )
And probably coz he might be innocent and say that he wasn't,he aint acting like somebody who would repeat the same mistake again.Lesson learnt and things move on.

zedruslan
04-06-2010, 05:58 PM
thay said - you know what you was banned for
its not fair - why i was banned? they even didn't say for what

anon
04-06-2010, 06:12 PM
thay said - you know what you was banned for

There's an extremely high chance they think you've cheated. I guess your only chance now is going to their IRC and not telling them "lies" - for example, the fact you didn't.

kukushka
04-06-2010, 08:14 PM
- be straight with us
- we know what you did, and you know it too
- no, i don't
- you're a liar, bye-bye
even if user really knows what he did, somehow i still get some catch-22 feeling from such dialogue...

WhatMan
04-09-2010, 10:16 PM
[23:31] --> jderu has joined this channel ([email protected]).
[23:31] <WhatMan> Hi, jderu.
[23:31] <jderu> hy
[23:31] <WhatMan> What's your username on sb-innovation?
[23:31] <jderu> sb?
[23:31] <jderu> a lol
[23:32] <jderu> i think is ------
[23:32] <WhatMan> Oki. Which user class are you?
[23:32] <jderu> account there for emule client
[23:32] <jderu> lower
[23:32] <jderu> 10 -20 posts i think
[23:33] <jderu> link you?
[23:33] <WhatMan> Sure.
[23:33] <jderu> 1 sec
[23:33] <WhatMan> What does the emule client do?
[23:34] <jderu> http://www.sb-innovation.de/members/------/
[23:34] <jderu> edonkey
[23:34] <jderu> no p2p
[23:34] <WhatMan> Yeah, but why do you use sb-i's emule client?
[23:34] <jderu> different sharing
[23:34] <jderu> cause i do nut know how to use the normal emule
[23:35] <jderu> used morphxt too
[23:35] <WhatMan> You only know how to use sb-innovation's emule client?
[23:35] <jderu> i mean the normal client you have to wait
[23:35] <jderu> the modified clients have no waiting
[23:36] <jderu> no waiting time
[23:36] <jderu> i do not dare to use anything on my trackers
[23:36] <jderu> as you see i seed if needed
[23:37] <jderu> and not only here
[23:39] <WhatMan> [quote by jderu on sb-i about multiplying his upload credit by 2 and showing up on a snatchlist]
[23:39] <WhatMan> What's all this about?
[23:40] <jderu> a test for weir client
[23:40] <jderu> weird clinet
[23:40] <jderu> do not worry
[23:40] <WhatMan> Whose snatch list?
[23:40] <jderu> rotorrent.ro
[23:41] <WhatMan> So you cheated on rotorrent.ro?
[23:41] <jderu> no
[23:41] <jderu> that client was used normal
[23:41] <WhatMan> So you multiplied your upload by 2 on rotorrent.ro, but you didn't cheat?
[23:41] <jderu> no was kept to 1
[23:41] <WhatMan> Then what does "i've put multiply real up with 2" mean?
[23:42] <jderu> believe what you want
[23:42] <WhatMan> I want you to tell me what "i've put multiply real up with 2" means.
[23:42] <jderu> i tried this client on a traker not private
[23:42] <jderu> semi-private
[23:42] <jderu> or smth
[23:43] <WhatMan> So it's okay that you cheated, because the tracker was only semi-private?
[23:43] <jderu> only testing
[23:43] <WhatMan> Why were you testing?
[23:43] <jderu> they said is a real client
[23:44] <jderu> you can download with it :)
[23:44] <jderu> and yes you can download and upload
[23:44] <WhatMan> Why were you testing "i've put multiply real up with 2"?
[23:44] <jderu> yes
[23:44] <WhatMan> Why?
[23:45] <jderu> because i do not dare to try on private trakers
[23:45] <jderu> and i don;t have to cheat
[23:45] <jderu> i leave my laptop open 24/7
[23:45] <WhatMan> Why were you testing the cheating functionality of a client, jderu?
[23:45] <jderu> no
[23:45] <jderu> the client
[23:46] <jderu> i downloaded with it
[23:46] <WhatMan> Did you try to fake upload with it?
[23:47] <jderu> no
[23:47] <jderu> but being a forum i tried to spam arround
[23:47] <WhatMan> Then what does "i've put multiply real up with 2" mean?
[23:47] <jderu> spam
[23:47] <WhatMan> So now it's nothing? 5 minutes ago, you said it was testing.
[23:47] <jderu> after that i found the real client here
[23:47] <jderu> http://pingpong-abc.sourceforge.net/
[23:48] <jderu> was a test
[23:48] <jderu> you see the screens and seed times
[23:48] <WhatMan> ABC is banned on most private trackers, including ours. I don't know where you're going with this.
[23:48] <jderu> never used it
[23:48] <jderu> on privates trakers
[23:49] <jderu> so was testing only
[23:49] <WhatMan> Why were you testing a cheat client?
[23:49] <jderu> i only used vuze and utorrent on private p2p
[23:50] <jderu> as i tested emule, morphxt, emule sbi
[23:51] <jderu> thats it, my test stoped there, p2p i used wit utooent
[23:51] <jderu> utorrent official
[23:51] <WhatMan> There's a difference between testing a client and being concerned that the cheating functionality of a client isn't working as expected on a tracker with a snatchlist, which only appears on private trackers.
[23:51] *** qMark|afk is now known as qMark.
[23:52] <jderu> this abc is banned no?
[23:52] <jderu> if so there was no point for me to used, only testing
[23:52] <WhatMan> ABC doesn't enter into the equation, we don't care about ABC, I don't know why you brought it up.
[23:53] <jderu> was where i posted that
[23:53] <jderu> no?
[23:53] <jderu> you asked about my post
[23:55] <WhatMan> I asked about your post here where you were concerned about your fake upload showing on a snatchlist when you were cheating
[23:55] <jderu> i yes
[23:56] <jderu> was faze mod name
[23:56] <jderu> probably banned averywhere
[23:57] <jderu> those were the options
[23:57] <jderu> you can see up in the screeshot
[23:57] <jderu> 1 is normal
[23:57] <WhatMan> I know all about faze mod, I want to know why you're using it and multiplying your upload by 2!
[23:58] <jderu> was not a private traker, so anything there wasn't really shown
[23:58] <jderu> so i don't know
[23:58] <WhatMan> rotorrent.ro is not a private tracker?
[23:59] <jderu> well i think is closed
[23:59] <jderu> you can chek
[23:59] <jderu> check
[23:59] <WhatMan> ...So it is a private tracker?
[23:59] <jderu> gone forever or smth
[23:59] <WhatMan> So it's okay that you cheated because the tracker closed down?
[00:00] <jderu> you can just download
[00:00] <jderu> no account
[00:00] <jderu> no
[00:00] <jderu> not a private traker
[00:00] <jderu> no ratio and stuffs
[00:01] <jderu> was a test, cause i don't use those on any privates
[00:01] <WhatMan> Is this rotorrent.ro? http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/9067/pariu.jpg
[00:02] <jderu> yes i guess
[00:02] <WhatMan> And you call that not a private tracker?
[00:02] <jderu> i think it was
[00:02] <jderu> can dl without a account
[00:02] <-- xorian has left this server (Ping timeout: 241 seconds).
[00:03] <jderu> you can downlaod without
[00:03] <WhatMan> Sure, but then you don't show up on the snatchlist, do you?
[00:03] <jderu> seeding leeching
[00:03] <jderu> i think
[00:03] <jderu> dunno
[00:04] <WhatMan> So you had an account on rotorrent, then?
[00:04] <jderu> downloaded without one
[00:04] <WhatMan> So how did you show up on the snatchlist?
[00:04] <jderu> real download
[00:05] <WhatMan> I think we're done here.
[00:05] <jderu> probably
[00:05] <jderu> dunno
[00:05] <jderu> did need
[00:05] <jderu> so i can't convince you?
[00:05] <WhatMan> No.
[00:05] <jderu> was no need to use on others
[00:05] <jderu> p2p private is not same as testing
[00:06] <WhatMan> You should not be testing cheat clients. Please leave.
[00:06] <jderu> 1 sec
[00:06] <jderu> tested on a not private
[00:06] <jderu> :)
[00:06] <jderu> so was spamming there
[00:06] <jderu> thats all
[00:06] <WhatMan> We're done. Please leave.
[00:06] <jderu> k man
[00:07] <jderu> you can't help?
[00:07] <jderu> on fst i said all
[00:07] <jderu> no cheating done
[00:07] <-- jderu has left this channel.

20 seconds later...


[00:07] <jderu> @WhatMan can we talk again?
[00:08] <WhatMan> No jderu, we can't.
[00:08] <jderu> not even if i'm a member on ftn and stuff?
[00:08] <jderu> not an average member; you can see the seeding
[00:08] <WhatMan> Not even if you're a member on FTN, jderu.
[00:09] <jderu> new account then?
[00:09] <WhatMan> No.
[00:09] <jderu> was not private p2p
[00:09] <WhatMan> You cheated. Get out.
[00:09] <jderu> so testing even nothing involved
[00:09] <jderu> i did not cheat
[00:09] <jderu> and you know
[00:09] <WhatMan> We are done, jderu! Get out.
[00:10] <-- jderu has left this channel.

*sigh*

Slickerey
04-09-2010, 10:30 PM
So jderu was a cheater...

Sorry to tell you this jderu, but you're not getting your account at What.CD back. If you had admitted that you were a cheater, maybe WhatMan would have given you a chance...

anon
04-09-2010, 10:30 PM
Thanks for the log. I just located his account on the board and had a good laugh.

Spamming around, huh?

Raban
04-09-2010, 10:47 PM
lord amighty

cinephilia
04-09-2010, 10:53 PM
as long as he didn't cheat on what.cd, i don't see the harm.

Cabalo
04-10-2010, 04:02 AM
Man, does Whatman has patience.

pone44
04-10-2010, 04:09 AM
With all these threads/lies. Then explaining why an account was banned when the person knows what they did. Over and over. Props.

Funkin'
04-10-2010, 09:12 AM
Man, does Whatman has patience.

Yes he does. Without even being in the conversation that was painful for me to read. I think I would have booted him right after he lied about the emule client. And then to have the balls to come back into the chan thinking he can get a second chance because he thinks he's not a "regular member" simply because he's a member at some site. Sheesh...

pretend
04-10-2010, 11:01 AM
not even if i'm a member on ftn and stuff?
That's one wonderful excuse, hands down.

ca_aok
04-10-2010, 02:07 PM
not even if i'm a member on ftn and stuff?That's one wonderful excuse, hands down.
I'd have re-enabled him on the spot. There's no way there are any cheaters on FTN! :rolleyes:

cinephilia
04-10-2010, 02:11 PM
as for myself, i'd have re-enabled him for being a trusted member of SBI.

kukushka
04-10-2010, 02:18 PM
not even if i'm a member on ftn and stuff?That's one wonderful excuse, hands down.
he should've mentioned that he is uk-t/rabbit/sct refugee... it could guarantee him 3 more chances

Raban
04-10-2010, 03:13 PM
where is jderu

ca_aok
04-10-2010, 03:20 PM
Doing what these tards always do when they get caught as liars... running away, or possibly making a nice new account to get a fresh start ;)

anon
04-10-2010, 04:16 PM
as for myself, i'd have re-enabled him for being a trusted member of SBI.

Trusted? :huh:

threadbare
04-18-2010, 07:30 PM
Hello, I've been banned as well. I did nothing wrong and would like to give the mod the information he requested, but I've also been banned from the IRC channel. It involves my son, who had an account that was disabled. (He later was reinstated with a new account.) I opened Firefox instead of my normal Chrome browser. It automatically popped up my son's old user name up, but I didn't notice and entered my password. When I saw it was the wrong name, I entered my user name and discovered I was disabled. I had an exchange with a mod on the what.cd-disabled room that did not go well. After I talked to my son I tried to go back but discovered that I was also banned from the channel. All I want to do is explain what I now understand happened. Both my son and my self are good What.cd citizens but now we're both banned and have no way to explain. I'm happy to sacrifice my account so my son can keep his. If someone knows a What.CD admin, please pass this on to them!

ca_aok
04-18-2010, 08:06 PM
What I've never understood about the whole "My brother/sister/dad/mother/dog did it" excuse is... why don't you just use one account for the family? Saves the trouble of maintaining ratios on multiple accounts, don't have to worry about the mods scrutinizing you more carefully for having a shared IP address, etc.

The whole "I randomly opened a browser I don't use, didn't notice this and went to What's address, didn't notice that a banned username was in the username box rather than my own, etc." excuse doesn't sound that plausible... plus when you say "reinstated", what does that mean? Generally if they reinstate you they give you your old account back. If he got a new account without asking the staff, then had the IP that was linked to both of your accounts linked to the old banned account, there probably isn't much you can do. They have a 1 account/user/lifetime rule, and they also stipulate that if you share IPs with someone else, you risk being banned if anyone on that IP gets banned.

kukushka
04-18-2010, 08:09 PM
It involves my son, who had an account that was disabled. (He later was reinstated with a new account.)
huh? where is it on the timeline of all those 33 unfortunate events and how does it go with the rule 1 user / 1 account in lifetime?

threadbare
04-19-2010, 02:50 AM
Thanks for the help, guys! Hope someone gives you the same courtesy when you have a problem.

Tv Controls you
04-19-2010, 02:58 AM
Thanks for the help, guys! Hope someone gives you the same courtesy when you have a problem.

Don't take your anger out on Fst, we aren't the ones that banned you.

You want help?

Ok, I'll tell you right now if you go on their irc they will not help you with your issue, because quite frankly it sounds shady. (even if it is true)
And if whatman or one of his minions come here they will abuse you for posting such an excuse.

In the end... join waffles and only use 1 account per household.

ca_aok
04-19-2010, 03:36 AM
I notice you dodged what I asked you with an idle remark, meaning there probably was something along those lines involved ;)

Raban
04-19-2010, 03:47 AM
I had an exchange with a mod on the what.cd-disabled room that did not go well.

describe this exchange plz.

TONiC
04-19-2010, 07:58 AM
I had an exchange with a mod on the what.cd-disabled room that did not go well.

describe this exchange plz.

Presumably, extremely one sided. Threadbare; you aren't the first person to be banned without a fair trial and you certainly won't be the last.

anon
04-19-2010, 02:39 PM
Thanks for the help, guys! Hope someone gives you the same courtesy when you have a problem.

You may be a perfectly legitimate user that really got banned for no reason (and a part of me kind of wants to believe that, heh), but you should know statements like:

I opened Firefox instead of my normal Chrome browser. It automatically popped up my son's old user name up, but I didn't notice and entered my password. When I saw it was the wrong name, I entered my user name and discovered I was disabled.

Or variations thereof have been used countless times in the past as an excuse by other people that did break the rules, and thus make it harder for the rest of the community to trust you, specially since you're a newcomer.

Just wait for a What.cd staff member to see your post and reply. Were they aware you and your son would be using the same IP to log in?