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abu_has_the_power
10-26-2003, 01:21 AM
i'm trying to buy a longer harddrive cable. the one that connects the hd to the mobo. wats it called again? and when i buy, like a 24' cable, is it 24' total, or 24' from connector to connector. cuz i'm haveing a problem. i need to move my hd tray to the top of my 5.25' slots, but the hd cable doesn go that high. just so u know, i have 1 hd at the bottom of the pc, and a hd rack with 1 hd at the 5.25' bays. the prob is, the rack is old, and its longer, so the farthest it can go is up to the mobo, but there is like .5' sticking out, and i need to close the door. here's some pics:
http://www.freewebs.com/ihaveabu/Picture%20002.jpg
http://www.freewebs.com/ihaveabu/Picture%20002.jpg
the rack is sticking out because the mobo is rite behind it. i can move the rack to the top of the bays, but the hd cable isn't long enough to connect the hd at the bottom (120 gb fixed hd) to the hd rack. help me out. does the 24' cable mean 24' in between the connectors? or in total. thanks

sparsely
10-26-2003, 01:53 AM
IDE cable

abu_has_the_power
10-26-2003, 02:02 AM
Originally posted by Sparsely@26 October 2003 - 01:53
IDE cable
isn't that for the cd drives?

ooo
10-26-2003, 02:05 AM
its for both...

abu_has_the_power
10-26-2003, 02:15 AM
ok. thanks. now, when they say 24', is it 24' in between the connectors? or the whole thing


and thanks for the rom soul

Livy
10-26-2003, 02:17 AM
i think the size refers to overall size, not the size in between connectors,

infact im pretty sure it refers to overall size

Evil Gemini
10-26-2003, 03:39 AM
You can get 2 different IDE ribbon cable. One has just black connectors on all ends and the one you need has one blue one where it connects to the motherbooard.

The normal IDE ribbon can be used for cd roms and i think zip drives.

If you just use a normal one for your hard drive, u might get an error like "80 cable not connected" Im not to sure about the exact error message but you will get something like that.

If you have an older pc it might be ok to use a normal cable.

abu_has_the_power
10-26-2003, 03:48 AM
Originally posted by neattairoski@26 October 2003 - 03:39
You can get 2 different IDE ribbon cable. One has just black connectors on all ends and the one you need has one blue one where it connects to the motherbooard.

The normal IDE ribbon can be used for cd roms and i think zip drives.

If you just use a normal one for your hard drive, u might get an error like "80 cable not connected" Im not to sure about the exact error message but you will get something like that.

If you have an older pc it might be ok to use a normal cable.
i always thought the hd cable was thinner than the ide cable for cd drives. anyway, so i can buy an extension for the hd cable? where?

abu_has_the_power
10-26-2003, 04:15 AM
for the hd cable, am i looking for ATA133/100 cables?

Virtualbody1234
10-26-2003, 04:31 AM
Can't you use Google, abu_has_the_power ???

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8...le+Search&meta= (http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=ATA133%2F100+cables&btnG=Google+Search&meta=)

abu_has_the_power
10-26-2003, 04:31 AM
Originally posted by neattairoski@26 October 2003 - 03:39
You can get 2 different IDE ribbon cable. One has just black connectors on all ends and the one you need has one blue one where it connects to the motherbooard.

The normal IDE ribbon can be used for cd roms and i think zip drives.

If you just use a normal one for your hard drive, u might get an error like "80 cable not connected" Im not to sure about the exact error message but you will get something like that.

If you have an older pc it might be ok to use a normal cable.
ok, i have the cable that has 1 end goin into the mobo, and 2 connectors into the hd's. now, i can get a extension cable? wat's it called. where can i get it?

sparsely
10-26-2003, 05:10 AM
Originally posted by I don't remember
You can get 2 different IDE ribbon cable. One has just black connectors on all ends and the one you need has one blue one where it connects to the motherbooard.

The normal IDE ribbon can be used for cd roms and i think zip drives.

If you just use a normal one for your hard drive, u might get an error like "80 cable not connected" Im not to sure about the exact error message but you will get something like that.

If you have an older pc it might be ok to use a normal cable.

no, no , no.

It doesn't matter.
There are two types of IDE cables. The older 40 wire cable, and the newer 80 wire, 40 pin cable. If your devices were manufactured
in the last several years, the latter is what you want. It's very easy to tell them apart. The colored connector ends are simply to try and
help idiot-proof the setup, it doesn't matter what color they are.
It's also quite easy to tell which end goes to the motherboard, as the two drive connectors are more than halfway up the cable.

abu_has_the_power
10-26-2003, 05:22 AM
ok, so there is no extension cable thing for ide cables?

sparsely
10-26-2003, 05:32 AM
I'm not sure, really.
I'm sure somebody probably makes one, but I've never seen such.
You can get IDE cables in several lengths, though.

abu_has_the_power
10-26-2003, 05:37 AM
the hd rack will be 7-8 optical bays away from the bottom master harddrive. now, are there any cables that will have that length? that's 7-8 optical bays up... i don't have a ruler handy. sory

sparsely
10-26-2003, 05:56 AM
The longest I've seen is 36". that's 3 feet, or .91 meters.
Long enough?

abu_has_the_power
10-26-2003, 05:58 AM
Originally posted by Sparsely@26 October 2003 - 05:56
The longest I've seen is 36". that's 3 feet, or .91 meters.
Long enough?
how much can i get that for? don't need rounded, i can make them rounded myself

sparsely
10-26-2003, 06:00 AM
okay! enough!
I'm not doing your shopping for you! :angry:

abu_has_the_power
10-26-2003, 06:00 AM
Originally posted by Sparsely@26 October 2003 - 06:00
okay! enough!
I'm not doing your shopping for you! :angry:
ok. sory. but a 36' will be enough i hope?

sparsely
10-26-2003, 06:09 AM
you really should measure it before you buy.

Virtualbody1234
10-26-2003, 06:12 AM
okay! enough!
I'm not doing your shopping for you!

Good on you, Sparsely. Let him do at least something for himself. http://www.mcbriens.net/liam/img/smilies/thmbup.gif


@ abu. If you round them yourself you will mess up the sheilding for the ATA100 rating.

muchspl2
10-26-2003, 06:16 AM
Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@26 October 2003 - 05:31
Can't you use Google, abu_has_the_power ???

google has all the answers to ever thing you could ever think of

abu_has_the_power
10-26-2003, 06:26 AM
Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@26 October 2003 - 06:12

okay! enough!
I'm not doing your shopping for you!

Good on you, Sparsely. Let him do at least something for himself. http://www.mcbriens.net/liam/img/smilies/thmbup.gif


@ abu. If you round them yourself you will mess up the sheilding for the ATA100 rating.
how? there are many guides about how to do it? i'm only cutting in between the edges. how does that damage anything?

abu_has_the_power
10-26-2003, 06:27 AM
Originally posted by muchspl2+26 October 2003 - 06:16--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (muchspl2 @ 26 October 2003 - 06:16)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Virtualbody1234@26 October 2003 - 05:31
Can&#39;t you use Google, abu_has_the_power ???

google has all the answers to ever thing you could ever think of [/b][/quote]
true, but also takes forever to find it, when someone else who might jsut have the answer on hand, can answer rite away in here

InverseKinetix
10-26-2003, 07:06 AM
do you want me to come install the cable for you?

abu_has_the_power
10-26-2003, 05:08 PM
lol, sure. but do u ahve a cable that&#39;ll reach the lenght of 7 cd rom drives stacked up? the the length is the length between the 2 connectors, not the whole thing. could be a pain

actually, if i were to format my master drive and reinstall a os, do i get to select which drive to format if i have 2 drives in the pc? if this is true, i guess i don&#39;t really have to have the hd rack

InverseKinetix
10-27-2003, 04:08 AM
Yes you have the option to select drive for formatting.

abu_has_the_power
10-27-2003, 01:52 PM
ok. thought so. so then, i guess i could loose the hd rack.. hmm... thanks a lot guys