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infamousalbo101
10-27-2003, 06:57 AM
Should i get this or this

Gateway 710XL Peak Performance


http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/sc/30567385-2-200-0.gif

Specifications


Processor
Processor Intel Pentium 4 3.2 GHz


Data bus speed 800 MHz
Storage
Hard drive 500 GB
Monitor
Monitor type Flat panel display


Diagonal screen size 18 in
Video / Audio
Video RAM installed 256 MB


Graphics processor Nvidia GeForce FX 5900 Ultra


Audio output Sound card


Speaker(s) Boston Acoustic BA7900
Modem / Networking
Modem 56 KBps Fax / modem
T3 modem Just added NEW!!!

Networking Network adapter
Operating System / Software
OS provided Microsoft Windows XP Professional


Software included Microsoft Works Suite 2004 - Including Microsoft Word and Encarta






IBM IntelliStation Z Pro 6221 - Xeon 3.06 GHz

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/sc/30399366-2-200-0.gif

Specifications


Processor
Processor Intel Xeon 3.06 GHz


Data bus speed 533 MHz


Chipset type Intel E7505
Memory
Max supported RAM 8 GB


Upgrade rule (RAM) 2 modules at a time


Cache size - type 512 KB L2 cache
Storage
Hard drive 36.4 GB Standard


2nd hard drive type None


Removable storage None


2nd removable storage type None
CD / DVD Drive
CD / DVD drive CD-RW Internal IDE


CD / DVD read speed 48x


CD / DVD write speed 48x


CD / DVD rewrite speed 24x


2nd CD / DVD drive None
Monitor
Monitor type None.
Video / Audio
Video RAM installed 256 MB


Max resolution (external) 2048 x 1536 pixels


Graphics processor 3Dlabs Wildcat4


Max monitors supported 2


Audio output Integrated Sound card


Speaker(s) None
Modem / Networking
Modem None


Networking Network adapter PCI-X / 100 MHz Integrated
Expansion / Connectivity
Cable(s) Included DVI-VGA cable


Expansion slot(s) total (free) 2 (1 free) Processor Socket 604,4 (2 free) Memory DIMM 184-pin,4 (4 free) PCI-X / 100 MHz,1 (1 free) PCI,1 (0 free) AGP Pro


Port(s) total (free) / Connector type 4 Hi-Speed USB,1 Network Ethernet 10Base-T/100Base-TX/1000Base-T,1 Parallel IEEE 1284 (EPP/ECP),1 Mouse Generic,1 Keyboard Generic,1 Audio Line-in,2 Audio Line-out,2 Microphone Input,2 Display / video VGA,2 Display / video DVI-Analog/Digital,2 Serial RS-232E,1 IEEE 1394 (FireWire),1 IEEE 1394 (FireWire),1 Display / video Stereo video sync-out


Expansion bay(s) total (free) 2 (1 free) Front accessible 5.25" x 1/2H,1 (0 free) Front accessible 3.5" x 1/3H,3 (2 free) Internal 3.5" x 1/3H
Physical Characteristics
Form factor Mini tower


Body color Raven black


Dimensions (W x D x H) 6.5 in x 19.4 in x 17.4 in


Weight 35.9 lbs


Features Wake on LAN,Wake on ring,Mouse disable,Cover key lock,Flash ROM lock,U-Bolt anchoring,Keyboard password,Power-on password,Diskette I/O control,Boot sequence control,Administrator password,Hard drive I/O control,Serial port I/O control,Parallel port I/O control,Power Factor Correction (PFC),Boot without keyboard or mouse,Locking device keyhole (cable lock)
Power
Power provided Power supply Internal


Voltage required AC 110/220 V
Environmental Parameters
Humidity range 8 - 80%


Min operating temperature 50 —


Max operating temperature 95 —


Sound emission 55 dB
Operating System / Software
OS provided Microsoft Windows XP Professional


Software included Lotus SmartSuite,Norton AntiVirus,Lotus Notes Client,Drivers & Utilities,Adobe Acrobat Reader

wormless
10-27-2003, 06:58 AM
hey did u take that from my house.

infamousalbo101
10-27-2003, 07:01 AM
no i wanna see witch one i should get i can spend 6000$ dollers so i wanna get the best of the best

mr. nails
10-27-2003, 08:30 AM
build ur own!

justin_9733
10-27-2003, 08:31 AM
500GB hard drive, ya i wish there was 500gb hard drives.

KcIrPaSiLuApJ
10-27-2003, 09:00 AM
For six grand, you could build your own LAN, with four good computers, have your mates round for parties.

lynx
10-27-2003, 09:14 AM
Read the spec of that IBM machine carefully.

Although it has a pretty picture of a flat panel monitor, that is NOT included with the system.
The hard drive size is 36.4GB. This is not very big, so you will probably need to add another. But it may be one of the new WD 10,000 rpm Sata drives which should be v fast.
And the Graphics processor, that well known 3Dlabs Wildcat4. (It may be very good, but I've never heard of it).
No Speakers.
No Modem.

You haven't quoted any prices, but I'm assuming they are around the same price. If so, the Gateway machine wins hands down (but find out the actual size of the HD).

DarthInsinuate
10-27-2003, 10:06 AM
basically the same as lynx said about the IBM, its crap

but the Gateway doesn't look too good either:

- i have a thing against Nvidia cards, they are fast but apparently not as fast as the ATI equivilent, also the extra RAM on the card does very little in improving performance

- the machine doesn't come with RAM?

- the machine doesn't come with CD/DVD drive?

3RA1N1AC
10-27-2003, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by lynx@27 October 2003 - 01:14
And the Graphics processor, that well known 3Dlabs Wildcat4. (It may be very good, but I've never heard of it).
http://www.3dlabs.com/product/wildcat4/

that's a professional 3D card. if you're a professional 3D graphics designer, you'd want to buy a card like that. if you're buying a card for video games, look elsewhere because the card and its drivers are geared toward completely different tasks.

kurtsl0an
10-27-2003, 11:00 AM
gateway=suck! i hate them and can't wait 4 them 2 die. neva buy a gateway.

they're slow, clunky, and all around crappy. when i first started this job and took over the network, all my office had were gateway's (3 years ago). back then they weren't so bad but since windows 2000 and xp has come out, their puters SUCK! I now buy Dell.

Plus, the rip u off if u ever want 2 upgrade. i would build my own or visit - Cyber Power Inc. (http://www.cyberpowerinc.com) - they have great pricing and coo cases.

mahammued786
10-27-2003, 11:04 AM
wtf! ur spending 6k on ONE pc??? mad!!!!



well this is too much 4 u so dont think about getting it!!


http://www.go-l.com/desktops/machl38/features/main.jpg





link: http://www.go-l.com/desktops/machl38/features/index.htm

Riddler
10-27-2003, 11:22 AM
I'm looking to upgrade to this as soon as I can afford it...............

http://www.piczonline.com/client/riddler/tandy.jpg

What do you think ?

:P

kurtsl0an
10-27-2003, 11:22 AM
Originally posted by mahammued786@27 October 2003 - 11:04
http://www.go-l.com/desktops/machl38/features/main.jpg

i just looked at those last week 4 a new CAD workstation - lol.

they're not terribly overpriced, but i don't get how they have P4 3.8's out already? i did price 1 out that was like 20 grand though - :lol:

Wizzandabe
10-27-2003, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by Riddler@27 October 2003 - 11:22
I'm looking to upgrade to this as soon as I can afford it...............

http://www.piczonline.com/client/riddler/tandy.jpg

What do you think ?

:P
LOL, That is a amazing, what you on about. ;) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Livy
10-27-2003, 03:45 PM
u would get alot better pc for your money buying the bits yourself, it not hard to do, you will have a wide range of cases so u can choose how it looks, and also you will know the ram and mobo etc will be quality parts. and not cheap mobo and ram etc to save money as alot of companies do now adays.

thatsomekid
10-27-2003, 03:52 PM
nice stuff you got there must cost you a lot
and oh ya that tandy is sweet....lol

clocker
10-27-2003, 03:58 PM
Yeah, that Tandy would be the system to get.

If only it came in beige.

That would be bitchin'.

zapjb
10-27-2003, 04:06 PM
Your folks are whacked for giving you $6000 for a computer. For $3000 you could get an excellent one, prebuilt. For $2000 you could build a very nice one.

Lamsey
10-27-2003, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by infamousalbo101@27 October 2003 - 07:01
no i wanna see witch one i should get i can spend 6000$ dollers so i wanna get the best of the best
Let me get this straight. You have $6000 to spend on PC equipment, and you're going to blow it all on one machine? :blink:

$1250 will buy you the components to make a very good computer. If you build 4 such computers, you still have $1000 to set up an ethernet network, buy a router, set up printer sharing, even get furniture.

Don't be an idiot. That is far too much money to waste on a single PC.

zapjb
10-27-2003, 04:08 PM
Well said Lamsey.

kazaaliterock
10-27-2003, 05:17 PM
damn 6 k to spend on a pc :blink: . i wish i had thta much :rolleyes: . but y would u want to spend tat much on a pc ne ways. if i had 6k i go get myself a good comp for 2k. then go buy myself a new 32inch flat screen tv. then some home entertainment system. and if u old enough go get urself ur own private stripper :blink: : :lol:

mentalfusion420
10-27-2003, 05:38 PM
go with the P4 system or build a AMD opteron FX system

infamousalbo101
10-28-2003, 12:49 AM
ML38C Mach 3.8 Custom $3,884.99 $3,884.99
Logo: Rock_Signature $29.00 $29.00
Text_to_be_engraved: Text_to_be_engraved
Line1: YuP IzZyDaDaWG
CacheFlow: Built-in
SuperBIOS: Built-in
CPU: 3_8GHz_Extreme $99.00 $99.00
L2_Cache: 512K
Memory: 16GB_533MHz $9,999.00 $9,999.00
PuRam: Built-in $4,999.00 $4,999.00
3_8_Storage: 2T_7200rpm $2,457.00 $2,457.00
RAID: 10
SCSI: Ultra-SCSI320_4_73_GB $3,020.00 $3,020.00
Fiber-channel: Built-in $699.00 $699.00
Graphics: ATI9800_Pro_256MB_Booster $214.00 $214.00
High_Definition: Built-in $49.00 $49.00
Bay_1: None
Bay_2: 8xDVD-RW $247.00 $247.00
Bay_3: None
Audio: Built-in
IEEE_1394a_Firewire: 2_Ports
IEEE_1394b_Firewire: 3_Ports $95.00 $95.00
USB2: 8_Ports
PCI_Expansion: Built-in
Modem_GigaLAN: Built-in
Power_Supply: 550W
Input_Device: Keyboard_Mouse $99.00 $99.00
Operating_System: Windows_XP_Pro
Warranty: Extended_Enterprise $349.00 $349.00
ML38C Mach 3.8 Custom $3,884.99 $3,884.99
Logo: Rock
CacheFlow: Built-in
SuperBIOS: Built-in
CPU: 3_8GHz_Extreme $99.00 $99.00
L2_Cache: 512K
Memory: 16GB_533MHz $9,999.00 $9,999.00
PuRam: Built-in $4,999.00 $4,999.00
3_8_Storage: 2T_7200rpm $2,457.00 $2,457.00
RAID: 10
SCSI: Ultra-SCSI320_4_73_GB $3,020.00 $3,020.00
Fiber-channel: None
Graphics: ATI9800_Pro_128MB
High_Definition: Built-in $49.00 $49.00
Bay_1: 8xDVD-RW $247.00 $247.00
Bay_2: 8xDVD-RW $247.00 $247.00
Bay_3: 8xDVD-RW $247.00 $247.00
Audio: Built-in
IEEE_1394a_Firewire: 2_Ports
IEEE_1394b_Firewire: 3_Ports $95.00 $95.00
USB2: 8_Ports
PCI_Expansion: Built-in
Modem_GigaLAN: Built-in
Power_Supply: 550W
Input_Device: Keyboard_Mouse $99.00 $99.00
Operating_System: Windows_XP_Pro
Warranty: Extended_Enterprise $349.00 $349.00

zapjb
10-28-2003, 01:01 AM
wtf :o

SciManAl
10-28-2003, 01:09 AM
man, i think we need some answers to answer your question better:
So you have 6k, what do you want your computer to do?
Do you play games, (LAN)?
Do you do multimedia stuff? (make movies, run Adobe products, 3D imaging)
What level of computer expierience do you have???
i.e. begginer -guru (feel confident to make your own computer, want us to walk you through it) - i would do that if ya needed it!
Answer those and i can further help you pick a system that fits you NEEDS and not boast things you are never going to use etc...

DarthInsinuate
10-28-2003, 01:24 AM
Originally posted by Lamsey@27 October 2003 - 16:07
Don't be an idiot. That is far too much money to waste on a single PC.
@infamousalbo101 - reiterating Lamsey, only a idiot would spend so much on a computer


so i've concluded:

a. you are not using the same currency as us, one of your dollars is worth one sixth ours

b. you are speaking hypothetically

c. you are an idiot

InverseKinetix
10-28-2003, 01:43 AM
Insanity. I built my own for US$2000. Look at the specs, it's fast as f#$k. With the other $4g u could buy a data projector and still have $3g for a vacation.

abu_has_the_power
10-28-2003, 01:53 AM
1st question: where did u get 6 grand? hmm....

with 6000, u can buy urself ur own server and ur own pretty nice comp, if u build it. forget the gateway. licks monkey balls. the ibm licks even more monkey balls. build a comp with like 2 terabytes of hd space, and like a 9800 xt with hl2, and p5, with 8 gb of ram. lol.. and maybe a surround lcd screen. but i would just get a projector thingy.

SciManAl
10-28-2003, 02:06 AM
i would get that new holoprjecter that came out!!! 3k but well worth it!!!! up to 256 inches of projection of fully 3d dimensionall objects that are interactable(you could just touch the head of the person and geta a head shot in CS ~lol~ hehehe

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
that is how much you have
$$$= that is how much i have... lol

bigdawgfoxx
10-28-2003, 02:30 AM
I dont know why yall are dawging on Gateway so bad. My friend has a 2.5 Ghz and 512 Megs of ram and that thing HAULS. But thats alot...I dont know why yall are telling him to set up like 4 computers and put it on a network to play games...id rather just have one super ass computer. Maybe he has no friends to play with :unsure:

Also with that much i would wait for the new Pentium, that way you are up to date with 64bit Technology!

_John_Lennon_
10-28-2003, 03:19 AM
Originally posted by kurtsl0an@27 October 2003 - 06:22

P4 3.8's out already? i did price 1 out that was like 20 grand though - :lol:
Thats exactly what I was pondering about, and I havnt heard anything about the new 3.8Ghz chips as stock, so im pretty positive on the only conclusion,

Those bastards are overclocking their chips! Thats probably why that side bus is also 933, instead of the usual 800 I believe.


EDIT: check this out, at the bottom of their page! Those bastards are stock overclocking to fool the newbs!!!


* Intel Pentium 4 HyperThreading CPU accelerated @3.8GHz (3.2GHz native clock speed).
** 933MHz Accelerated System Bus from 800MHz base clock speed



CHEATERS!!!!!



At bigdawg

If by means of the 64 bit chip your talking about, Have you heard about the Intel EE that they released, coincindentally right when the AMD FX, and regular 64 Bit processor came out? Hah, another attempt by Intel to not look as though they are falling behind and starting to lose the edge in the market they once had to AMD.

infamousalbo101
10-28-2003, 03:25 AM
Originally posted by DarthInsinuate+27 October 2003 - 21:24--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DarthInsinuate @ 27 October 2003 - 21:24)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Lamsey@27 October 2003 - 16:07
Don&#39;t be an idiot. That is far too much money to waste on a single PC.
@infamousalbo101 - reiterating Lamsey, only a idiot would spend so much on a computer


so i&#39;ve concluded:

a. you are not using the same currency as us, one of your dollars is worth one sixth ours

b. you are speaking hypothetically

c. you are an idiot [/b][/quote]
d.fuck you


lol just kidding but calling me an idoit is uncalled for

now i have more then 20,000&#036; us to spend so just give me site to super computers

_John_Lennon_
10-28-2003, 03:29 AM
Umm infamous, can I have some money?

Im not joking, im a student and cant get a job right now, so if you have any spare money lying around for any reason, could you hook a future friend up?

:)

bigdawgfoxx
10-28-2003, 03:30 AM
Yeah...duh there overclocking it. FIGURED THAT OUT IMMEDIATLY&#33; damn took 3 pages to figure it out on here lol. Its a nice comp...i like it...20,000??? are you a fucking rapper??? i thought it was 6?&#33;

_John_Lennon_
10-28-2003, 03:32 AM
Sure you did foxx, sure you did. <_<

infamousalbo101
10-28-2003, 03:33 AM
it was but i one a court case for getting hit by a car by a judge the settlement was 1.5 million and i can spend really as much as 100,000&#036; of it and i wanna get the sickest computer in the world

_John_Lennon_
10-28-2003, 03:35 AM
Can you hook me up with something perhaps? :)

Once again not joking, it never hurts to ask.....

Also, sorry to hear you were hit by a car, were you paralyzed from it at all?

adamp2p
10-28-2003, 03:39 AM
it was but i one a court case for getting hit by a car by a judge the settlement was 1.5 million and i can spend really as much as 100,000&#036; of it and i wanna get the sickest computer in the world

buy yourself a life with the change.

Oh, and why don&#39;t you get one of those projectors?

abu_has_the_power
10-28-2003, 03:46 AM
Originally posted by adamp2p@28 October 2003 - 03:39

it was but i one a court case for getting hit by a car by a judge the settlement was 1.5 million and i can spend really as much as 100,000&#036; of it and i wanna get the sickest computer in the world

buy yourself a life with the change.

Oh, and why don&#39;t you get one of those projectors?
yea, get a projector, nice speakers, and nice sofa, and u got ur self a nice theater room. then get the sweetest computer in the world. i would just build like 5, then make a lan party room somewhere in ur house.

zapjb
10-28-2003, 03:49 AM
I got my boots on now. Fling away. :lol:

bigdawgfoxx
10-28-2003, 03:53 AM
I DID&#33; i saw the lil astrick lol... Buy something nice...

DarthInsinuate
10-28-2003, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by infamousalbo101@28 October 2003 - 03:33
it was but i one a court case for getting hit by a car by a judge the settlement was 1.5 million
ahh, the American legal system strikes again - i still think spending so much on one thing is a bad idea, the bugger might breakdown or become outdated, with &#036;20,000 you could by a kick-ass computer and some spare parts or upgrades when the time comes

abu_has_the_power
10-28-2003, 02:17 PM
wat i would do with 1.5 million (lol) is to start a company. doesn&#39;t have to be really really big. just start out with like some factory, or hotel chain, or watever. in a couple of years, ur income will have 1.5 million X a lot. then u can buy all the pc&#39;s u want, and buy an island, and build a castle, and retire there

todzuallen
10-28-2003, 08:09 PM
at that L computer place yeah they do overclock them but did you take a look at the cooling system&#33;&#33;&#33; wow&#33;&#33;

http://www.go-l.com/desktops/machl38/cooling/index.htm

Mad Cat
10-30-2003, 04:21 PM
Buy a 3.2GHz P4, a freezer, and then make it a 4.4GHz ninja

Note: This can be done...

Or, you could buy one of the Apple G4s which are being hailed as the fastect computers in the world. I saw an article somewhere where you could shove windows into it...

EDIT: All of you non believers about that 500GB hd are wrong. It does exist. Its RAID, which from what I hear is twin HDs.

Damn, I can&#39;t put up all the things you get with this PC. Well go to Alienware Area 51 Extreme (http://www.alienware.com/Configurator_Pages/area-51.aspx?SysCode=PC-AREA51&SubCode=SKU-EXTREME) and select everything you can. You get get twin 30 inch LCD monitors. Holy crap.

I have heard from many that Alienware are the best you can buy.

djfactory
10-30-2003, 05:54 PM
500gb harddrive? never seen 1 of them... :unsure:

Smith
10-30-2003, 10:31 PM
dude if ur going 2 buy a pre built one get a falcon or a alien ware

SciManAl
10-30-2003, 10:38 PM
hell if i had loads of money laying around i would go with alien ware... mayby i like building my own computers, not just to save money but, i think all the poeple who have made thier own computers know how they feel when they did a good job... feels good&#33;&#33;&#33; and i can fix my comp 5 thousand times faster than dell can so... i also agree on a G5 i have one at work, damn they are fast, it supports up to 1 terabyte in hard drive space... must i go any further it is SWEET&#33;&#33;&#33; i would recomned it to anyopne, and apple has the wicked screens that are insanely big...

_John_Lennon_
10-31-2003, 03:37 AM
Guess Im not gonna be able to get a donation to the help _John_Lennon_&#39;s Computer upgrading budget, fund.

mooseman2070
11-20-2003, 12:25 AM
i wish that i even had A FRACTION of money to spend on a pc that you have. hell id be happy with 1500 to spend on a pc

mooseman2070
11-20-2003, 12:39 AM
check out this beast (http://www.alienware.com/ShoppingCart_Pages/ShoppingCart.aspx)

clocker
11-20-2003, 12:56 AM
Originally posted by mooseman2070@19 November 2003 - 17:39
check out this beast (http://www.alienware.com/ShoppingCart_Pages/ShoppingCart.aspx)
Boy o Boy&#33;

That "Shopping Cart" model is the coolest thing ever...

mooseman2070
11-20-2003, 01:11 AM
well it was supposed to turn out to be a &#036;17,000 tricked out gaming computer but if you wanna see it just customize an auora and pick all of the most expensive things :ph34r:

bujub22
11-20-2003, 01:12 AM
Originally posted by mahammued786@27 October 2003 - 11:04
wtf&#33; ur spending 6k on ONE pc??? mad&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;



well this is too much 4 u so dont think about getting it&#33;&#33;


http://www.go-l.com/desktops/machl38/features/main.jpg





link: http://www.go-l.com/desktops/machl38/features/index.htm
this looks hot i would get it

Monkeee
11-20-2003, 01:37 AM
my gawd just get a damn Alienware&#33; <_<

h121589
11-20-2003, 01:50 AM
god damn 6 g&#39;s r u crazy mine wuz only &#036;1,500

Virtualbody1234
11-20-2003, 03:02 AM
This is a stupid thread. So much attention paid to being irresponsible.

Get a desent PC but leave the money invested. If you think that spending it foolishly will last a lifetime then you&#39;re wrong.

I don&#39;t even believe the whole thing anyway. It&#39;s just attention seeking&#33;

raiserblade2003
11-20-2003, 03:22 AM
who brought this thread up again? but if i had 6k, i would buy a cople really cheap comp and have my own lan at home. have a bunch of friends over to play cs on lan instead of wasting it on one pc.

adamp2p
11-20-2003, 03:32 AM
Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@20 November 2003 - 04:02
I don&#39;t even believe the whole thing anyway. It&#39;s just attention seeking&#33;
Me neither. We all have seen these pointless threads, have we not? :blink:

_John_Lennon_
11-20-2003, 04:21 AM
Still doesnt hurt to give suggestions and to ask for money, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD CAN I JUST GET SOME FREE MONEY ONCE?&#33;?

Sigh :(

Evil Gemini
11-20-2003, 08:37 AM
With &#036;20,000 i would buy a nice car since i just blew the head gasket in mine :(