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Mavol
10-28-2003, 06:27 PM
like the title says: i got put on 'smallband' meaning my download speed is like 5kB/s max and my upload 1kB/s max.
this is all because my isp has a limit on how much you can dl & ul and im over my upload limit again.
you get like 10GB dl & 1.5GB ul. i already pay 2€ extra every month to get 12GB dl & 1.8GB ul and im not gonna pay more!
i think that after today im gonna stop sharing popular files, seems like the only solution?

Gre1
10-28-2003, 06:42 PM
I'm glad I don't have a limit, better switch ISP's

cosmic doobie
10-28-2003, 06:45 PM
Wise to start looking for a new supplier.
Don't give up sharing Please!!

Gre1
10-28-2003, 07:06 PM
I was suggesting u get a new ISP

Mavol
10-28-2003, 07:25 PM
its the only isp here that supplies cable...

Gre1
10-28-2003, 08:11 PM
that's fucked big time.

Switeck
10-29-2003, 02:06 AM
Originally posted by Mavol@28 October 2003 - 13:27
you get like 10GB dl & 1.5GB ul. i already pay 2€ extra every month to get 12GB dl & 1.8GB ul and im not gonna pay more!
I can upload over 2 GB in 1 day -- and that's at the 'pathetic' max rate of 29 KB/sec!

A 56k dial-up modem connected at 50k and downloading at 5 KB/sec going all-out, 24-7 for a whole month can hit about 12 GB downloaded.

I don't know what they call what you've got, but it *AIN'T* broadband if those are its limits...

Even NTL's 1 GB/day traffic limits seem nice compaired to that!

the-ninja69
10-29-2003, 03:06 AM
Ya i agree with swiftteck. Whatever service you have it is not broadband. I mean you are getting 56k speeds. I hope you are not paying a lot money for POS service.

Adster
10-29-2003, 05:45 AM
Its not taht easy for ppl just to get another ISP

i myself can only get this 1 particular ISP in this country ijn the area where I live

the US are lucky there lines are government paid where as Telstra is a monopoly

there are a couple of ISPs that have unlimed in asutralia but not in my area

and I have a 12 gig cap a month and if I go over that I get shaped to 72k but I have a thing called control and by about the last 2 to 3 days I get shaped nothign worth bitching about i have no uploads limit

be thankful you dont live in aust and get done what 1 poor guy did he left kazaa on all month

bigpond charges like 50 bucks for 1 gig a month and an arm and a leg after you go over that somethign like $1.20 per meg after the limit what this poor guy didn tknow was they had uplaod cap.

well his kids left kazaa goin gfor a whole month and out camem the 20,000 bill poor guy was in tears kids thought they were helping him get a few programs for him

he lsot the court case too coz he agreed to the terms and agreements

the-ninja69
10-29-2003, 06:33 AM
Damn is must f*cking sux for internet where you live.

I am glad I live in USA :D

nanotek
10-29-2003, 06:35 AM
glad i live in germany as i dont have a cap either

darkmind
10-29-2003, 08:10 AM
i read that in n. korea they are coming out w/ 50 meg sdsl for like 50-70 us $
the info was from a pc mag i have somewhere around here

Gre1
10-29-2003, 10:40 AM
I know I couldn't just switch ISP's because there is a 1 year contract.

*΄―`·.ΈΈ.»Ητ©φ»
10-29-2003, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by Gre1@29 October 2003 - 10:40
I know I couldn't just switch ISP's because there is a 1 year contract.
i had a 12 month contract, it ran out last month and i am currently looking for a better deal, but i am really happy with the 12 months i have had with B.T.

I do pay £1 a day for my broadband, but to be honest its been sweet with B.T. i have had little problems, and when i have they have always sorted it out straight away over a free call to them, also there has been no capping.

So maybe i may stay with them. I may wait for the T1 service they are going to bring out soon.

reservebox
10-29-2003, 03:23 PM
get freeserve broadband - that has NO limit ;)

Gre1
10-29-2003, 04:48 PM
I have SBC DSL

thetransplanted
10-30-2003, 06:25 AM
me too

Mavol
10-30-2003, 10:42 AM
Originally posted by the-ninja69@29 October 2003 - 05:06
Ya i agree with swiftteck. Whatever service you have it is not broadband. I mean you are getting 56k speeds. I hope you are not paying a lot money for POS service.
well when im not on smallband i have 4 Mbps downstream and 128 kbps upstream with no cap a day or something similar

normally you pay € 41,95/month but cause i got 2 extra GB i pay € 43,95/month

and still they put me on smallband i mean im paying for cable and i get this smallband thing. i wish i lived where you guys live so i could get a decent isp. this isp is actually the only big cable provider in Belgium (where i live), i dont even know if there are smaller ones which supply cable

InverseKinetix
10-30-2003, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by darkmind@29 October 2003 - 17:10
i read that in n. korea they are coming out w/ 50 meg sdsl for like 50-70 us $
the info was from a pc mag i have somewhere around here
This is mine

US$40

http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/en/bflets.html


woot woot, 100megaBYTE not BIT

In japan

muchspl2
10-30-2003, 12:35 PM
what about satellite service, dss and think primestare have satellite isp services

Wizzandabe
10-30-2003, 01:28 PM
you get like 10GB dl & 1.5GB ul

Per month? :o

Mavol
10-30-2003, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by Wizzandabe@30 October 2003 - 15:28
Per month? :o
yeah, over a period of 30 days or 31

i do selective downloading, dl what i really need now, the rest i do next month.

well im pretty happy about this 10GB, its just that the upload is 15% of your total dl limit. so 15% of 10GB= 1.5GB upload

darkmind
10-30-2003, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by InverseKinetix@30 October 2003 - 12:30
woot woot, 100megaBYTE not BIT

In japan
100!? :'(
thats it im moving

Gre1
10-30-2003, 03:43 PM
I pay 30 dollars a month no cap Max download speed about 75 when using kazaa I get up to 90kb/s

Switeck
10-30-2003, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by darkmind+30 October 2003 - 10:26--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (darkmind @ 30 October 2003 - 10:26)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-InverseKinetix@30 October 2003 - 12:30
woot woot, 100megaBYTE not BIT

In japan
100&#33;? :&#39;(
thats it im moving [/b][/quote]
If you get that, who are you going to be downloading from?
&#39;cuz there&#39;s like nobody that can UPLOAD that fast.

On KL++, even a 1 Mbps download/ 0.25 Mbps upload connection is overkill nowdays. :(

darkmind
10-30-2003, 05:08 PM
i know no one can upload that fast i just dl lots of "stuff"
i always find a way to max out a connection
always :)

Mavol
10-31-2003, 03:15 PM
just bought another 1GB dl so got +15% of 1GB ul. im not on smallband anymore&#33; but im paying another 1€ extra a month :( . this time ill stop sharing if i see me reaching the limit, but i guess thats leeching then?

you think its ok to not share for a while till i get have a reasonable distance between my upload-limit??

Amarjit
10-31-2003, 06:16 PM
Originally posted by Mavol@28 October 2003 - 19:25
its the only isp here that supplies cable...
Then get xDSL.

I live in Britain and my ISP has no bandwidth caps, no ports blocked, no port throttling, no time limits, no nothing ...

It&#39;s the best ADSL ISP in the UK, it&#39;s the cheapest, without strings attached, and it&#39;s called Gio Internet&#33;

Mad Cat
10-31-2003, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by darkmind+30 October 2003 - 15:26--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (darkmind @ 30 October 2003 - 15:26)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-InverseKinetix@30 October 2003 - 12:30
woot woot, 100megaBYTE not BIT

In japan
100&#33;? :&#39;(
thats it im moving [/b][/quote]
In that Japanese one, is it an ethernet connection directly to the ISP or something?

Mad Cat
10-31-2003, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by Amarjit+31 October 2003 - 18:16--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Amarjit @ 31 October 2003 - 18:16)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mavol@28 October 2003 - 19:25
its the only isp here that supplies cable...
Then get xDSL.

I live in Britain and my ISP has no bandwidth caps, no ports blocked, no port throttling, no time limits, no nothing ...

It&#39;s the best ADSL ISP in the UK, it&#39;s the cheapest, without strings attached, and it&#39;s called Gio Internet&#33; [/b][/quote]
What connection speeds do that Gio Internet offer?

Mavol
11-17-2003, 04:08 PM
just amazing

i started sharing again when it dropped under 95% ul, but i noticed the people downloading from me were aborting and quickly resuming. This causes my ul-speed to change from 7kb/s to 19.... and im gonna be put on smallband again. <_<

Switeck
11-18-2003, 12:34 AM
Originally posted by Mavol@17 November 2003 - 11:08
just amazing

i started sharing again when it dropped under 95% ul, but i noticed the people downloading from me were aborting and quickly resuming. This causes my ul-speed to change from 7kb/s to 19.... and im gonna be put on smallband again. <_<
Since you&#39;re on such HORRIBLE monthly bandwidth limits, it makes very good sense for you to force KL++&#39;s max upload bandwidth to be only a fraction of your connection&#39;s max upload speed.

Since you said you have only 128 kbps upload bandwidth, try setting it to only 64 kilobits or even 32 kilobits in KL++ and max uploads slots at once to no more than 4 (probably do best with only 1 or 2 upload slots.)

This should cause uploads to reach your monthly limit much slower PLUS have fewer resends of &#39;lost&#39; data.

Gre1
11-18-2003, 02:40 AM
I just really tried to put thought on a way to get around it but I can&#39;t that is just messed up I think all peeps with limits should try there best to get another ISP.

Mavol
11-19-2003, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by Gre1@18 November 2003 - 03:40
I just really tried to put thought on a way to get around it but I can&#39;t that is just messed up I think all peeps with limits should try there best to get another ISP.
thx for the responses

i actually once read somethin here but i have no idea if it works and how to do it: uncapping your modem. I once read here that the limit is kept in your modems firmware and that this can be altered but your isp could always check if your doing are it....
i&#39;d probably mess up :lol:

i checked for xDSL providers but: same limits 10GB/m

Never ever come and live in belgium&#33;

im on smallband till 5/12 :(

cwctv
11-19-2003, 04:19 PM
Get Netlimiter this will help you to keep an eye on everything your uploads speeds/downloads speeds plus the amounts (megs) used on a daily/ weekly/ monthly should help you to not go over your limits.

http://www.klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=82017

Have a look here about Japan&#39;s speeds. :(

http://www.klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=82728

Mavol
11-21-2003, 05:44 PM
thx cwctv ill check it out&#33; seems like what i need & for the speeds in Japan:

:w00t: =]