More Drama @ PassThePopcorn

[ca_aok]

So for those of you who haven't noticed, PTP has now split into two separate sites, passthepopcorn.org and passthepopcorn.me. Apparently what's transpired is pham went rogue, demoted the rest of the staff, and removed their access from the site. They took a backup of PTP and restarted the site at the .me domain.

What's even more fun is it turns out that pham's been stealing your donation money to pay for his personal expenditures. IRC log, the ----- bits were just useless chatter removed for clarity.

http://pastebin.com/B5ft7K07

Choose who to side with I suppose ;)

[RayJuniored]

Lucky I never donated! What a joke that site has become.

[phrenzy]

Or choose to ignore both.....

[cyrusvn]

Is Pham Vietnamese ?

[ExtraDry]

that sux big time feel sorry for the members that lost donations and the staff that try to do the right thing,only takes one bad egg to fuck it all up

[Rart]

Uh boy... yet another one. Can't say I'm surprised. Not anything personally directed towards PTP's (other) staff or such, but it seems like a lot of sites these days are taking the donate-and-run approach. Doesn't seem like a matter of if it will happen, only when :dabs:.

The PTP.org domain doesn't seem to work at all anymore. Taken down for good?

[7th]

in my humble opinion, this is just PTP getting better... just change the domain from ptp.org to ptp.me and go grab some more popcorn!

[Cabalo]

Oh my... this site is breaking all records concerning drama, surpassing even the usual CN.

[TheKarateKitt]

Just goes to confirm you're a god damned tool if you donate to any torrent site.

[ExtraDry]

Just goes to confirm you're a god damned tool if you donate to any torrent site.

there won't be any sites if peeps didn't donate and that's a fact

[Cabalo]

Just goes to confirm you're a god damned tool if you donate to any torrent site.
Though I wouldn't throw them all in the same bag, every time we see such donation scams going around, the will to donate is less and less.

[glados]

HAHA how pathetic, first Child Porn, now stealing donations.... lol @ PTP

EDIT: for those wondering what I mean by child porn I was referring to this: http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bittorrent-43/t-passthepopcorn-or-passthechildporn-403539/

[Radon0r]

Oh my... this site is breaking all records concerning drama, surpassing even the usual CN.

Wow, I think you're right. PassThePaedo is on a whole new level.

"<eXodusSquared> 18:29 <~pham> THe whole fucking world didnt need to know that I was too poor to buy diapers for my kid." :blink:

[Hombre]

stay away from ptp, that site stinks to all evil in bittorrent.
what a piece of shit site.

[dandraesley]

So, Is it open on .me now?. How about those old member, BTW?.

[sake]

What a joke!

[Chief_Garbonzo]

daaaammnnn... that is some pretty crazy bittorrent drama fo sure!! I'm not a member there...I'd like to hear from a longtime member there to see what their thoughts are on the drama bomb that just erupted!

[dandraesley]

So, It's a real life drama made by drama movie freak cause of money drama.

Money can be evil and convincing.

[eldiesel]

This site was really a good place to download movies . What happens next ?

[pro267]

One has to wonder whether membership in this site - or for that matter any site which is involved in this amount of e-drama - is worth the risks involved.

[Artemis]

One also has to wonder just how long it will take backie to leap (slowly) into action yet again and regurgitate the news on his blog (while making it seem like breaking news ofc) :blink:

[sake]

daaaammnnn... that is some pretty crazy bittorrent drama fo sure!! I'm not a member there...I'd like to hear from a longtime member there to see what their thoughts are on the drama bomb that just erupted!

I am also not a member there but because of these eruptions i even don`t want to be ;)

[backie]

One also has to wonder just how long it will take backie to leap (slowly) into action yet again and regurgitate the news on his blog (while making it seem like breaking news ofc) :blink:


To allegations of Pham fucking off with donations.
from http://onasoapbox.co.uk/2010/03/31/pass-the-popcorn-pass-the-buck/

I already posted about allegations of Pham fucking off with donations over a month ago.

And meh I am a bit busy these days so, guess this lame bullshit can be left here. :D

[fstemon]

PTP is a shitty site. And that pham thief, is he one of the PTP pedophiles? Fucking asshole.

[bioskaz]

first off. what one staff member (even a retired one) does to staff does not reflect on all the other staffers.
I feel sorry for all of those who have donated in the past few months,
after all this drama i am sure a few people are going to leave the site but most of the rest will stay and it will remain a great site to download movies from, with the staffers that actually have been working hard on releasing rc2.

For those who decide to stay, I will only say this. Pham was the only one of the top class staffers on ptp that i wasn't quite close to... I trust the 2 current sysopsa as well as the rest of staff and i'm sure this will never happen again.

if you decide to leave, your loss.

[mrnobody]

happy non-member :)


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there won't be any sites if peeps didn't donate and that's a fact

not true. there are several trackers where staff don't cry for lack of donation, instead they pay themself. There were (are) few that don't accept donations at all.

[Relanium]

My account was disabled for inactivity... :shifty:

[IdolEyes787]

Is Pham Vietnamese ?

Right to the point but you failed to inquire whether he/she is one of the good South Vietnamese or one of the evil Northern ones?:ermm:

Btw only the desperate,the greedy or the stupid ever steal anything small because the potential penalty should never outweigh the potential reward.
Basic crime 101.

[kukushka]

Is Pham Vietnamese ?

Right to the point but you failed to inquire whether he/she is one of the good South Vietnamese or one of the evil Northern ones?:ermm:

Btw only the desperate,the greedy or the stupid ever steal anything small because the potential penalty should never outweigh the potential reward.
Basic crime 101.
hmm... when there's no penalty for small stuff it can be more effective to steal with small portions
/ me gone shoplifting for diapers
:pinch:

[backie]

Is Pham Vietnamese ?

Right to the point but you failed to inquire whether he/she is one of the good South Vietnamese or one of the evil Northern ones?:ermm:

Btw only the desperate,the greedy or the stupid ever steal anything small because the potential penalty should never outweigh the potential reward.
Basic crime 101.

No basic crime 101 includes risk factor. Why not steal when there is no risk?

Also the smart can steal small stuff in large amounts, such as the urban myth that someone coded a virus to steal 0.01 pence/cent off each bank transaction.

[ca_aok]

News post from their site for anyone that cares:



Effective immediately, the movie tracker known as PassThePopcorn is using the domain passthepopcorn.me. Please ensure bookmarks and tracker urls are switched to the .me top level domain (TLD).

For help changing torrent passkeys, click here.

PASSTHEPOPCORN.ORG IS NOT TO BE USED, PLEASE DO NOT VISIT THIS SITE.

This change is sudden, abrupt and we apologize. The current staff of PTP is operating on full disclosure on this matter and we are taking the time now to explain the events leading up to this moment in time.

Since the site's birth, PTP has been plagued with instability and drama, something not unknown to the tracker community.

This boils down to one person, the founder pham. Since creation, the site's servers have been in Pham's name, down to the IRC. Donations were controlled by him until recently. Because of this, any issue surrounding these areas of the site have been murky and met with ambiguous answers on the part of pham. Actions of all other staff could only be taken so far as pham had the final say. While shirking regular duties of a sysop, pham has used the site as his personal playground and piggy bank. Changes to policy, site structure, and code were made at the whim of pham, and more often than not, the staff figured this out the same time users did. This made managing the site very difficult as we always had someone working against our efforts.
All of this uncertainty was commonplace for the staff at PTP until we thought we saw a light at the end of the tunnel.

A news post made one month, two weeks ago said the following:


Due to circumstances beyond my control within my personal life, I will, effective immediately, be stepping down as founder/sysop of Passthepopcorn, hereafter referred to as PTP. This was not discussed with our other staff. I feel I should not burden them with my personal life issues. My "step-down" was not discussed with my staff. I don't feel I have anything to discuss. The outcome is the same no matter what.

The terms of my step down are not very clear. At this time, I consider it semi-permanent. I will still frequent the site and be the liaison for the server/domain ownership. I will not be answering PMs, visiting the forums, or other admin related tasks. Effectively immediately, I release my duties of SysOP into very capable hands.

To the staff, its been a pleasure. Take care!

-pham

This blindsided staff but it was apparent from the start of this “new era”, that nothing had changed. Pham still held all the cards as far as servers,domain,and donations went. We were in the same position as before, only with pham using the site as his playground exaggerated.

From the “official step-down” to now, an important fact became obvious. The other sysops never saw one donation log, and the donation goal on the site changed from week to week, this going on for months. Donation numbers were always vague, with strange events occurring such as the need to secure a panamanian bank account. There was a news post announcing it and a goal to the sum of 1.5 thousand dollars, rounded up to an even 2 thousand. Donations exceeded this number, but even with the goal met, the news was quickly brushed to the side and soon forgotten about. Questions asking where the money went were met with obscure answers and a change of subject.

Staff could not investigate further and something similar happened weeks ago with a donation drive again announced by pham. Finally, a couple days ago, the worst we had feared was confirmed by none other than pham.

Pham had been laundering donation money and using it for personal use. He was effectively stealing from the site, driving donations up just to use for his personal gain.

When this knowledge became public to the staff, Z made actions to move away from PTP.org. A new server was bought, along with a development box, and donations were moved to a new secure account. Passthepopcorn.me was created for a development site, but because of recent events, the site had to be moved to Passthepopcorn.me.

Staff was preparing for the worst, and unfortunately that became reality. It happened sooner than we had hoped and drastic measures were taken by both parties.

Passthepopcorn.me is the new chapter of PTP, and is under new management, away from the instability pham brought. We are operating on full disclosure on this day forth and look forward to making PTP the best, most secure site imaginable.

We apologize to our community about recent actions but we as staff have done everything in our power to prevent such a corrupt system once we could confirm said corruption.

We do not want to be begging for money but as of current time we only have $200 USD available which will not be able to keep the site up for even another month. We need $450 USD to stay alive per month. Any donations are greatly appreciated. We love our community and want to keep the ball rolling.

Sincerely,
The PassThePopcorn Staff

[v6rtiks]

what is this site about ?

[IdolEyes787]

Also the smart can steal small stuff in large amounts, such as the urban myth that someone coded a virus to steal 0.01 pence/cent off each bank transaction.

Btw I'm still waiting for my bank to do something about that.

Seriously though stealing small serially exponentially increases the risk of eventually being caught and ,although the chances might be slim,having all the thefts( a large amount so subsequently a large penalty) traced back to you.

[McArty]

Also the smart can steal small stuff in large amounts, such as the urban myth that someone coded a virus to steal 0.01 pence/cent off each bank transaction.
I dont think is an urban myth, it was a plot in a Superman movie done by a Richard Pryor character, LOL.

[tanta]

Two posts in pham's PTP forum post history that are of note:
http://imgur.com/yVdsY.jpg

[Cabalo]

first off. what one staff member (even a retired one) does to staff does not reflect on all the other staffers.
I feel sorry for all of those who have donated in the past few months,
after all this drama i am sure a few people are going to leave the site but most of the rest will stay and it will remain a great site to download movies from, with the staffers that actually have been working hard on releasing rc2.

For those who decide to stay, I will only say this. Pham was the only one of the top class staffers on ptp that i wasn't quite close to... I trust the 2 current sysopsa as well as the rest of staff and i'm sure this will never happen again.

if you decide to leave, your loss.
:lol: haha
This has to be a joke. How can someone have the nerve to say something like this, when we just read some lines above that they were stealing donations.
How can you say it's your loss not to continue on such a site, when some people have already been robbed? Are you drunk? Or are you simply stupid ?




We do not want to be begging for money but as of current time we only have $200 USD available which will not be able to keep the site up for even another month. We need $450 USD to stay alive per month. Any donations are greatly appreciated. We love our community and want to keep the ball rolling.

Sincerely,
The PassThePopcorn Staff
Great way to start a site, asking for money in the very first announcement.
Where have we seen this recently? :rolleyes:

[bioskaz]

:lol: haha
This has to be a joke. How can someone have the nerve to say something like this, when we just read some lines above that they were stealing donations.
How can you say it's your loss not to continue on such a site, when some people have already been robbed? Are you drunk? Or are you simply stupid ?


Pham might have been stealing donations, and as i said I wasn't close to pham, but i do trust the other staffers and I know they have nothing to do with the stealing as they had no access to the paypal account.


what i'm saying is that ptp is one of the best movie trackers out there, and if you don't want to keep your account there, it's your loss. I can quote a fair number of people that haven't gotten access to ptp for various reasons and all of them say that they really miss ptp because they could get any film they wanted from there.

[IdolEyes787]

I can quote a fair number of people that haven't gotten access to ptp for various reasons and all of them say that they really miss ptp......

You can't miss something you've never had.:blink:

[A]

i can quote a fair number of people that haven't gotten access to ptp for various reasons and all of them say that they really miss ptp......

you can't miss something you've never had.:blink:

+1

[bioskaz]

I can quote a fair number of people that haven't gotten access to ptp for various reasons and all of them say that they really miss ptp......

You can't miss something you've never had.:blink:

i meant people who got disabled for various reasons...

[7th]

I agree that this is yet another drama but I'm also impressed with you all and your competency to make such drama out of a drama :yup:

[glados]

LOL @ Bioskaz... it amazes me how stupid PTP fanboys are xD
I bet you're one of the guys who joined PTP staff in defending Spektormax for childporn...

first off. what one staff member (even a retired one) does to staff does not reflect on all the other staffers.Yea we heard that one before when Spektormax, another PTP founder, was distributing childporn... what next?

Anyone with a little bit of common sense would stay away from that corrupted site...


if you decide to leave, your loss.lol.


We do not want to be begging for money but as of current time we only have $200 USD available which will not be able to keep the site up for even another month. We need $450 USD to stay alive per month. Any donations are greatly appreciated. We love our community and want to keep the ball rolling.

Sincerely,
The PassThePopcorn Staffhahahahhahaha wow... you think people are stupid enough to donate now? LOL!

[7th]

hahahahhahaha wow... you think people are stupid enough to donate now? LOL!

do you really think people will let such a great tracker die without another chance? :blink:

I bet they won't :happy:

[Detale]

Oh my... this site is breaking all records concerning drama, surpassing even the usual CN.
:lol::lol::lol:

[bioskaz]

LOL @ Bioskaz... it amazes me how stupid PTP fanboys are xD
I bet you're one of the guys who joined PTP staff in defending Spektormax for childporn...
Yea we heard that one before when Spektormax, another PTP founder, was distributing childporn... what next?

Anyone with a little bit of common sense would stay away from that corrupted site...


if you decide to leave, your loss.lol.


We do not want to be begging for money but as of current time we only have $200 USD available which will not be able to keep the site up for even another month. We need $450 USD to stay alive per month. Any donations are greatly appreciated. We love our community and want to keep the ball rolling.

Sincerely,
The PassThePopcorn Staffhahahahhahaha wow... you think people are stupid enough to donate now? LOL!

that's so cute. I didn't defend spektormax's actions because i believe they were wrong and fucked up.
and i'm not a ptp fanboy. i use it as much as i use the other movie trackers i have.... i just know most the staff there better than i know staff anywhere else...
what amuses me is how tracker staff are supposed to be mature... the way you keep bashing other sites makes me assume you're 12 and therefore should not staff anywhere.
You know how in pretty much every single tracker's rules page it says:"do not disrespect other trackers"? great job at following rules! you sure got +1000 man points for that!
keep on bashing! you're well hardcore!

[susiserken]

Bittorrent is serious business!

[glados]

what amuses me is how tracker staff are supposed to be mature...EXACTLY! But one of the higher staff of PTP was distributing chilporn while the other was stealing donations to buy diapers for his son... lol.


You know how in pretty much every single tracker's rules page it says:"do not disrespect other trackers"? great job at following rules!I don't give a fuck about rules that won't let me state my opinion :D

I'm not bashing the site for the heck of it, I'm only responding to facts.

[1000possibleclaws]

Also the smart can steal small stuff in large amounts, such as the urban myth that someone coded a virus to steal 0.01 pence/cent off each bank transaction.
I dont think is an urban myth, it was a plot in a Superman movie done by a Richard Pryor character, LOL.

It sounds like its from Office Space, but that might've been inspired by some urban myth, i don't know.


Also, while I'm 100% never going to donate to PtP in the future (would never have either way), I don't see why I should want to walk away from my account. It's close to being disabled anyways cause I only snatch rarer stuff that isn't on goem and I don't really seed either. They are trying to distance themselves from this pham character, so I think they've still got a strike or two left with the general pop of the site.



You know how in pretty much every single tracker's rules page it says:"do not disrespect other trackers"? great job at following rules! you sure got +1000 man points for that!
keep on bashing! you're well hardcore!

Name off the sites that have that rule. I could probably get a quote from their staff saying that this rule doesn't apply if you're calling out a site for its staff fucking over it's userbase.

[bioskaz]

EXACTLY! But one of the higher staff of PTP was distributing chilporn while the other was stealing donations to buy diapers for his son... lol.


You know how in pretty much every single tracker's rules page it says:"do not disrespect other trackers"? great job at following rules!I don't give a fuck about rules that won't let me state my opinion :D

I'm not bashing the site for the heck of it, I'm only responding to facts.

you also cannot say that ptp is shit and no one should be on there cause 2 staffers turned out to be bad people when the current staffers are trustworthy.

you are responding to facts? no. I'll tell you what you're doing. you are basically picking some of the bad things about a tracker, that are no longer a problem and then bashing the tracker in the whole, just because you feel like it makes you look cool in front of the people reading it.
you're being immature, not fully understanding the situation and furthermore i wouldn't be the least surprised if you actually steal donations where you staff, having seen the level of maturity you've shown in this thread.
keep up the good job!


to Truesounds: CN, ptn,btn, what.cd,... do you really want me to continue?

[1000possibleclaws]

what.cd:
forums.php?page=1&action=viewthread&threadid=93361

plenty if shit talk going on in the forum, no one is getting warnings.

ptn:
I talk shit about trackers all the time in their irc chan, no punishment ever ensues. Usually a few people will join in :lol:

You can keep naming trackers if you want, I don't use CN or BTN, they are a little after my time. But you're right in that there are probably some tracker staff members that WOULD punish and censor this stuff. Just as there would be alot of staff members that would not care about talking down other sites that aren't their own. It's fairly easy to become a staff member if you're not picky about the tracker, that you're gonna have every type of person in a staff position somewhere.

[bioskaz]

what.cd:
forums.php?page=1&action=viewthread&threadid=93361

plenty if shit talk going on in the forum, no one is getting warnings.

ptn:
I talk shit about trackers all the time in their irc chan, no punishment ever ensues. Usually a few people will join in :lol:

You can keep naming trackers if you want, I don't use CN or BTN, they are a little after my time. But you're right in that there are probably some tracker staff members that WOULD punish and censor this stuff. Just as there would be alot of staff members that would not care about talking down other sites that aren't their own. It's fairly easy to become a staff member if you're not picky about the tracker, that you're gonna have every type of person in a staff position.

cause the what.cd thread isn't locked right? :P

[backie]

You know how in pretty much every single tracker's rules page it says:"do not disrespect other trackers"? great job at following rules!

You know you're talking shit?


to Truesounds: CN, ptn,btn, what.cd,... do you really want me to continue?

CN doesn't. Nor does what.cd. Plus do you have any proof that he is a member of these sites? Or are you on one of those lets enforce the rules on everyone benders?

This whole let's be nice thing you have is bullshit too.

[bioskaz]

You know you're talking shit?


to Truesounds: CN, ptn,btn, what.cd,... do you really want me to continue?

CN doesn't. Nor does what.cd. Plus do you have any proof that he is a member of these sites? Or are you on one of those lets enforce the rules on everyone benders?

This whole let's be nice thing you have is bullshit too.

from CN RULES: Site bashing is not tolerated, anyone found doing so will be warned.

and i think i proved my point with the thread being locked on what.cd so people stop chatting shit.

you should read the rules backie...

[1000possibleclaws]

what.cd:
forums.php?page=1&action=viewthread&threadid=93361

plenty if shit talk going on in the forum, no one is getting warnings.

ptn:
I talk shit about trackers all the time in their irc chan, no punishment ever ensues. Usually a few people will join in :lol:

You can keep naming trackers if you want, I don't use CN or BTN, they are a little after my time. But you're right in that there are probably some tracker staff members that WOULD punish and censor this stuff. Just as there would be alot of staff members that would not care about talking down other sites that aren't their own. It's fairly easy to become a staff member if you're not picky about the tracker, that you're gonna have every type of person in a staff position.

cause the what.cd thread isn't locked right? :P

Probably because the drama is over, and a staff member from PtP has come in and resolved it. The thread links back to this particular thread, and we are all still enabled members at whatcd, correct? :unsure: He locked it, probably because he doesn't want another site's drama on his site. He locked it because whatcd is a professionally run tracker. It's not even trashed. Now you're just trolling me.

[backie]

You know you're talking shit?



CN doesn't. Nor does what.cd. Plus do you have any proof that he is a member of these sites? Or are you on one of those lets enforce the rules on everyone benders?

This whole let's be nice thing you have is bullshit too.

from CN RULES: Site bashing is not tolerated, anyone found doing so will be warned.

and i think i proved my point with the thread being locked on what.cd so people stop chatting shit.

you should read the rules backie...

Oh shit, I did miss that. It doesn't really say what site it's talking about and since it's all the way down in the middle forum rules, I am gonna imply it's most likely their forum rules. Even then I would suspect it's talking about not brusing their ego.

What.CD locked a thread so they have a rule againist disrespecting other trackers? That's some weak bullshit too. Considering most forums lock threads that end up in drama. (Mainly because their idiots and don't click drama == what people want.)

[bioskaz]

cause the what.cd thread isn't locked right? :P

Probably because the drama is over, and a staff member from PtP has come in and resolved it. The thread links back to this particular thread, and we are all still enabled members at whatcd, correct? :unsure: He locked it, probably because he doesn't want another site's drama on his site. He locked it because whatcd is a professionally run tracker. It's not even trashed. Now you're just trolling me.

yup, before locking no one actually said this, i'm just imagining stuff. i'm clearly the biggest troll in existance...

Moved. Feel free to discuss the site changes and other relevant information, but another site's gossip and drama is not for our forums.

[cinephilia]

EXACTLY! But one of the higher staff of PTP was distributing chilporn while the other was stealing donations to buy diapers for his son... lol.

I don't give a fuck about rules that won't let me state my opinion :D

I'm not bashing the site for the heck of it, I'm only responding to facts.

you also cannot say that ptp is shit and no one should be on there cause 2 staffers turned out to be bad people when the current staffers are trustworthy.

you are responding to facts? no. I'll tell you what you're doing. you are basically picking some of the bad things about a tracker, that are no longer a problem and then bashing the tracker in the whole, just because you feel like it makes you look cool in front of the people reading it.
you're being immature, not fully understanding the situation and furthermore i wouldn't be the least surprised if you actually steal donations where you staff, having seen the level of maturity you've shown in this thread.
keep up the good job!
don't bother. glados is obviously on a personal vendetta against PTP.
all of his 23 posts have been posted either in this thread or in the "passthechildporn" thread. that says it all.

[Yelrut]

The Good Dirt (http://onasoapbox.co.uk/2010/05/10/another-ptp-admin-fully-exposed/)

[sez]

Probably because the drama is over, and a staff member from PtP has come in and resolved it. The thread links back to this particular thread, and we are all still enabled members at whatcd, correct? :unsure: He locked it, probably because he doesn't want another site's drama on his site. He locked it because whatcd is a professionally run tracker. It's not even trashed. Now you're just trolling me.

yup, before locking no one actually said this, i'm just imagining stuff. i'm clearly the biggest troll in existance...

Moved. Feel free to discuss the site changes and other relevant information, but another site's gossip and drama is not for our forums.

stop enabling this retard.

[Tv Controls you]

Wait let me get this straight... pham is pedomax?

Sorry I'm not a PTP member. lol

[bioskaz]

Wait let me get this straight... pham is pedomax?

Sorry I'm not a PTP member. lol

no. pham is just stealing money, most people in here have no clue what they're talking about and pull assumptions out of their arses claiming they're facts.





yup, before locking no one actually said this, i'm just imagining stuff. i'm clearly the biggest troll in existance...

Moved. Feel free to discuss the site changes and other relevant information, but another site's gossip and drama is not for our forums.

stop enabling this retard.

I was never disabled, and thanks for calling the one of 2 people in here that are making sense a retard. read the damn forum before you randomly insult someone, and get your facts right!

[Tv Controls you]

buy my fucking son diapers

How much worth of "fucking" "diapers" are we speaking of?

[sez]

no. pham is just stealing money, most people in here have no clue what they're talking about and pull assumptions out of their arses claiming they're facts.





yup, before locking no one actually said this, i'm just imagining stuff. i'm clearly the biggest troll in existance...

Moved. Feel free to discuss the site changes and other relevant information, but another site's gossip and drama is not for our forums.

stop enabling this retard.

I was never disabled, and thanks for calling the one of 2 people in here that are making sense a retard. read the damn forum before you randomly insult someone, and get your facts right!

I was gonna write something about your absentee father but you just proved to be too stupid to insult.

and thanks for calling the one of 2 people in here that are making sense a retard.
so if the two of you are not retarded then who are?everyone else?

[Tv Controls you]

so if the two of you are not retarded then who are?everyone else?

bioskaz and backie :lol:

[bioskaz]

no. pham is just stealing money, most people in here have no clue what they're talking about and pull assumptions out of their arses claiming they're facts.




stop enabling this retard.

I was never disabled, and thanks for calling the one of 2 people in here that are making sense a retard. read the damn forum before you randomly insult someone, and get your facts right!

I was gonna write something about your absentee father but you just proved to be too stupid to insult.

and thanks for calling the one of 2 people in here that are making sense a retard.
so if the two of you are not retarded then who are?everyone else?

you're proving yourself to be too stupid to win an argument using logic by insulting me with no reason.
and i'm not saying everyone in this thread is a retard, but that most people who posted here have no fucking clue what they're talking about and should probably find out more before they start bashing a tracker!

[0shifter0]

thanks for this site man

[sez]

no. pham is just stealing money, most people in here have no clue what they're talking about and pull assumptions out of their arses claiming they're facts.



I was never disabled, and thanks for calling the one of 2 people in here that are making sense a retard. read the damn forum before you randomly insult someone, and get your facts right!

I was gonna write something about your absentee father but you just proved to be too stupid to insult.

and thanks for calling the one of 2 people in here that are making sense a retard.
so if the two of you are not retarded then who are?everyone else?

you're proving yourself to be too stupid to win an argument using logic by insulting me with no reason.
and i'm not saying everyone in this thread is a retard, but that most people who posted here have no fucking clue what they're talking about and should probably find out more before they start bashing a tracker!

don't you think that kinda defeats the purpose of bashing?you have to have no clue in order to bash in a logical manner.

[cinephilia]

thanks for this site man
thanks for this post man

[bioskaz]

I was gonna write something about your absentee father but you just proved to be too stupid to insult.

and thanks for calling the one of 2 people in here that are making sense a retard.
so if the two of you are not retarded then who are?everyone else?

you're proving yourself to be too stupid to win an argument using logic by insulting me with no reason.
and i'm not saying everyone in this thread is a retard, but that most people who posted here have no fucking clue what they're talking about and should probably find out more before they start bashing a tracker!

don't you think that kinda defeats the purpose of bashing?you have to have no clue in order to bash in a logical manner.

so your only reason for being here is to bash the tracker and the people defending it for no reason whatsoever! shit! why didn't I think of that first! it makes you look so smart I'm kind of feeling like an idiot! I should really stop thinking and bash it like everyone else to be smart like you!

[redMonster]

Pretty naïve of you guys to put all the PTP drama blame squarely on pham. What he did was wrong, sure, but PTP has had controversies for the longest time, not all of them rooting from pham's behavior. Azazel trying to get attention by posting about the spektromax episode, the conflicts and bannings involving Kate128, exodussquared, blazewide, Azazel (and then removal of some of those bans), unnecessary censoring of the forums, failure in the backup strategies, hiding of the facts about donations by other staff members.

Don't act surprised if people are skeptical in trusting even the newborn PTP.me.


don't bother. glados is obviously on a personal vendetta against PTP.
all of his 23 posts have been posted either in this thread or in the "passthechildporn" thread. that says it all.:yup:

[cinephilia]

there's nothing to trust or not trust. just grab your shit and ignore the drama.

[sez]

so if the two of you are not retarded then who are?everyone else?

you're proving yourself to be too stupid to win an argument using logic by insulting me with no reason.
and i'm not saying everyone in this thread is a retard, but that most people who posted here have no fucking clue what they're talking about and should probably find out more before they start bashing a tracker!

don't you think that kinda defeats the purpose of bashing?you have to have no clue in order to bash in a logical manner.

so your only reason for being here is to bash the tracker and the people defending it for no reason whatsoever! shit! why didn't I think of that first! it makes you look so smart I'm kind of feeling like an idiot! I should really stop thinking and bash it like everyone else to be smart like you![/QUOTE]

are you color blind?

[McArty]

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and i'm not saying everyone in this thread is a retard, but that most people who posted here have no fucking clue what they're talking about and should probably find out more before they start bashing a tracker!

don't you think that kinda defeats the purpose of bashing?you have to have no clue in order to bash in a logical manner.
Am i reading right, or are you being sarcastic. Because after that phrase i cant take you seriously.

[redMonster]

there's nothing to trust or not trust. just grab your shit and ignore the drama.True, although I have a feeling you learnt it the hard way. :P

[Slimmmmmm]

Well I've been a member here for years, never post but read a lot from time to time.

I felt the urge to post about this however.

I was owner of a site that went bad, really bad with a lot of drama involved. I just posted to state the obvious, most people don't know the truth and never will when sites go tits up.

People need to keep an open mind when reading, 99% of the posts in a thread like this will be from lowley members or even those that have never been on the site in question, yet they take sides.

Having been in a situation where a lot of back stabbing from staff was going on, donations being used against the wishes of the majority of people giving them and the people putting the work in I can some what maybe if I'm lucky understand that I know very little about the motives behind anyone involved here, but that very little is at least something.

One thing I know is you can't tar the whole staff with the same dirty brush for the actions of one or two members of staff.

What you can do is join the site and experience it yourself only seeing what is in the open, avoid the site or just post random opinions on what you think about it all.

I'm glad the people who have taken the reigns on this site have not started any smear campaign against the previous owner and seem to be handling it very maturely. If they are letting people make their own minds up then they must have good facts to support their case and not feel the need for "he said, she said" playground tactics.

Anyway, my opinion on this for what it's worth is that the most honest thing people can do is not believe either side, be a skeptic and assume both sides are exaggerating their points, I mean this happens in real life fighting so it's safe to assume it's true on the web.

Make your own minds up people based on facts or your own personal experience.

I'm a lowely member of PTP and as far as I can see they have got rid of some bad apples and seem to be happy they can now lower the amount they will be asking for regarding donations, be more transparent in explaining the cost and listen to what members want to see change.

I think the drama is over and the future is bright for this site after being under a cloud for a long, long time.

Feel free to flame me, I don't expect anytihng less form some for having an honest opinion.

[bioskaz]

you're proving yourself to be too stupid to win an argument using logic by insulting me with no reason.
and i'm not saying everyone in this thread is a retard, but that most people who posted here have no fucking clue what they're talking about and should probably find out more before they start bashing a tracker!

don't you think that kinda defeats the purpose of bashing?you have to have no clue in order to bash in a logical manner.

so your only reason for being here is to bash the tracker and the people defending it for no reason whatsoever! shit! why didn't I think of that first! it makes you look so smart I'm kind of feeling like an idiot! I should really stop thinking and bash it like everyone else to be smart like you!

are you color blind?[/QUOTE]

I call you a genius you call me colour blind? damn man that's harsh shit! i respect you even more now!

[ca_aok]

Pretty naïve of you guys to put all the PTP drama blame squarely on pham. What he did was wrong, sure, but PTP has had controversies for the longest time, not all of them rooting from pham's behavior. Azazel trying to get attention by posting about the spektromax episode, the conflicts and bannings involving Kate128, exodussquared, blazewide, Azazel (and then removal of some of those bans), unnecessary censoring of the forums, failure in the backup strategies, hiding of the facts about donations by other staff members.

Don't act surprised if people are skeptical in trusting even the newborn PTP.me.
Let's not forget the massive database leak that several people watched happen in real time via VNC. That one was actually covered up fairly well.

[cinephilia]

there's nothing to trust or not trust. just grab your shit and ignore the drama.True, although I have a feeling you learnt it the hard way. :P
a wrong feeling. i've never been involved in any e-drama since the start of my bt career :mellow:

[sez]

don't you think that kinda defeats the purpose of bashing?you have to have no clue in order to bash in a logical manner.
Am i reading right, or are you being sarcastic. Because after that phrase i cant take you seriously.

well it's not in arabic so you obviously are reading right.The rest you can google.

[IdolEyes787]

Well I've been a member here for years, never post but read a lot from time to time.

I felt the urge to post about this however.

I was owner of a site that went bad, really bad with a lot of drama involved. I just posted to state the obvious, most people don't know the truth and never will when sites go tits up.

People need to keep an open mind when reading, 99% of the posts in a thread like this will be from lowley members or even those that have never been on the site in question, yet they take sides.

Having been in a situation where a lot of back stabbing from staff was going on, donations being used against the wishes of the majority of people giving them and the people putting the work in I can some what maybe if I'm lucky understand that I know very little about the motives behind anyone involved here, but that very little is at least something.

One thing I know is you can't tar the whole staff with the same dirty brush for the actions of one or two members of staff.

What you can do is join the site and experience it yourself only seeing what is in the open, avoid the site or just post random opinions on what you think about it all.

I'm glad the people who have taken the reigns on this site have not started any smear campaign against the previous owner and seem to be handling it very maturely. If they are letting people make their own minds up then they must have good facts to support their case and not feel the need for "he said, she said" playground tactics.

Anyway, my opinion on this for what it's worth is that the most honest thing people can do is not believe either side, be a skeptic and assume both sides are exaggerating their points, I mean this happens in real life fighting so it's safe to assume it's true on the web.

Make your own minds up people based on facts or your own personal experience.

I'm a lowely member of PTP and as far as I can see they have got rid of some bad apples and seem to be happy they can now lower the amount they will be asking for regarding donations, be more transparent in explaining the cost and listen to what members want to see change.

I think the drama is over and the future is bright for this site after being under a cloud for a long, long time.

Feel free to flame me, I don't expect anytihng less form some for having an honest opinion.

You make some good points but I just wanted to be an ass and say that it's lowly( unless of course your first name happens to be either Nick or Rob).
Just feel it's necessary to point that out since opinion being at least to some small extent based on the trivial , one such glaring mistake ( think MLK instead of eloquence guffawing "I had me a dream " )will almost certainly negate something that might otherwise be brilliant.

Tank you for your indulgence in letting me present the facts here..

[sez]

don't you think that kinda defeats the purpose of bashing?you have to have no clue in order to bash in a logical manner.

so your only reason for being here is to bash the tracker and the people defending it for no reason whatsoever! shit! why didn't I think of that first! it makes you look so smart I'm kind of feeling like an idiot! I should really stop thinking and bash it like everyone else to be smart like you!

are you color blind?

I call you a genius you call me colour blind? damn man that's harsh shit! i respect you even more now![/QUOTE]

well thank,am equally enjoying this me not insulting you but rather you insulting your own intelligence thing you have going on here.
Hope you don't mind me asking but are you by any chance drug dependent?or is your brain just naturally underdeveloped i.e are you a kid?

[bioskaz]

well I think if anyone with an IQ that is actually higher than 80 reads my post they'll know who's the idiot here ;)

[IdolEyes787]

well I think if anyone with an IQ that is actually higher than 80 reads my post they'll know who's the idiot here ;)

I don't think anyone with an IQ lower than 80 can actually read.:unsure:

[Artemis]

To allegations of Pham fucking off with donations.from http://onasoapbox.co.uk/2010/03/31/pass-the-popcorn-pass-the-buck/

I already posted about allegations of Pham fucking off with donations over a month ago.

And meh I am a bit busy these days so, guess this lame bullshit can be left here. :D

Yet as predicted, you did eventually post exactly this latest revelation on your blog. You simply regurgitate what is posted here plus in this case a little googling on your part.

It is exactly the same as the original post on your site after azazel posted his original disgust at spektormax for linking others to childporn images he was viewing on 5chan. Your revelation of spektormax details on your blog are simply copy & pasted details from a post that was later edited in this very forum, your information and your sources stem from the fact that you hover like a vulture over every site based e-drama.

But as I predicted, your response time is quite slow.

My point is you are a hack, you simply repeat what others have written, it isn't breaking news, you react (slowly) when a drama ensues then simply live over the threads refreshing every few minutes to update your tawdry blog.

p.s. you are still completely and utterly wrong with your 720p assertions too, do a little homework before posting on a technical aspect, or at least ask an encoder.

[sez]

well I think if anyone with an IQ that is actually higher than 80 reads my post they'll know who's the idiot here ;)

what?
this here is exactly why I don't think evolution quite rightly explains the origins of man.It's just not feasible that am sharing a common ancestor with him.
If he evolved then I didn't.



from http://onasoapbox.co.uk/2010/03/31/pass-the-popcorn-pass-the-buck/

I already posted about allegations of Pham fucking off with donations over a month ago.

And meh I am a bit busy these days so, guess this lame bullshit can be left here. :D

Yet as predicted, you did eventually post exactly this latest revelation on your blog. You simply regurgitate what is posted here plus in this case a little googling on your part.

It is exactly the same as the original post on your site after azazel posted his original disgust at spektormax for linking others to childporn images he was viewing on 5chan. Your revelation of spektormax details on your blog are simply copy & pasted details from a post that was later edited in this very forum, your information and your sources stem from the fact that you hover like a vulture over every site based e-drama.

But as I predicted, your response time is quite slow.

My point is you are a hack, you simply repeat what others have written, it isn't breaking news, you react (slowly) when a drama ensues then simply live over the threads refreshing every few minutes to update your tawdry blog.

p.s. you are still completely and utterly wrong with your 720p assertions too, do a little homework before posting on a technical aspect, or at least ask an encoder.

for someone who doesn't give a fuck,that's quite a detailed post.
You read his blog and I think all that matters to him and his Adsense account,your opinion doesn't mean shit.
Now imagine if you could just start clicking on the Ads.
I've seen the post and he has done the noble thing of acknowledging his sources.So what's your problem....mate?

[Rart]

you also cannot say that ptp is shit and no one should be on there cause 2 staffers turned out to be bad people when the current staffers are trustworthy.


So now that Toyota has recalled all the cars that could potentially have fatal break defects, does that mean we should now trust them unequivocally and act as if nothing has happened :mellow:? What's to say that they didn't miss any, or that other cars of theirs will also break down in the future?

The actions of a small group, even if the problem has already been removed, will always smear the reputation of the company (or in this case, the rest of the staff). A reputation takes a long time to build up and only a matter of seconds to completely destroy. You can't blame others at all harboring doubts as to the rest of the staff as people will always believe, no matter how tiny, that there is a chance of correlation to the rest of the staff. Especially after two incidents in rapid succession, this will most certainly leave a scar that others won't soon forget.

Furthermore, how do you know for a fact that the other remaining staff are really trustworthy? How can you be certain that they aren't also tricking you, seeing as two of the members that (supposedly) should be the most trustworthy, site owners/hosters, could not be trusted? Now I'm not insinuating anything here about the remaining staff, but you can easily see how it would lead others to mistrust the site.



you are responding to facts? no. I'll tell you what you're doing. you are basically picking some of the bad things about a tracker, that are no longer a problem

...

not fully understanding the situation



And yet again, how can you be positive that the problems are really nonexistent with the new set of staff?

You are saying that other users are basing the site without any basis of facts or a solid understanding of the situation, but do you have the facts to back up your view? You don't have the paypal logs, the donation amounts, etc. as undeniable proof that the new staff are completely trustworthy. You have just as many "facts" to back up your opinion as others do for their opinion.



You know how in pretty much every single tracker's rules page it says:"do not disrespect other trackers"? great job at following rules! you sure got +1000 man points for that!
keep on bashing! you're well hardcore!

So are you another one of those people that are pro-culling peoples opinions? In my mind that doesn't make you any better than the people that hold an unreasonable vendetta towards a certain tracker and will bash it at any opportunity. No matter how ridiculous or biased someones post may be, it's still their opinion. You think it's wrong? Respond explaining why. There is no need to talk down or respond like that simply because they are voicing an opinion against a tracker. Open and free discussion is what gives useful feedback to improving a site, not useless all-positive fluff.

[sez]

qQnySDKL4ag
Now that's one stupid movie

[Artemis]

what?
this here is exactly why I don't think evolution quite rightly explains the origins of man.It's just not feasible that am sharing a common ancestor with him.
If he evolved then I didn't.



for someone who doesn't give a fuck,that's quite a detailed post.
You read his blog and I think all that matters to him and his Adsense account,your opinion doesn't mean shit.
Now imagine if you could just start clicking on the Ads.
I've seen the post and he has done the noble thing of acknowledging his sources.So what's your problem....mate?

Where did I say I don't give a fuck ?

an earlier post here linked to his latest blog post, which I predicted he would make here:
http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-more-drama-passthepopcorn-post3451081/postcount21
which then right on cue he did, after replying to me saying meh this lame bullshit could stay here:
http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-more-drama-passthepopcorn-post3451125/postcount23

My opinion doesn't mean shit...coming from a troll, that is more of a damp squib than an actual insult

I find backie's post's moronic, in no way do I find him 'noble' but at least he can put together a sentence or two without needing to insult someone because he is a poor debator

[Quarterquack]

People need to keep an open mind when reading, 99% of the posts in a thread like this will be from lowley members or even those that have never been on the site in question, yet they take sides.

Interesting. I was a member since scenemovies, and the early days of PTP. Not once did I think about commenting on this entire ordeal, and I have no idea as to why I haven't.

Maybe I don't give a rat's ass anymore. I'm sure a lot of the non-"lowley" members of PTP share the same opinion right now, unless they're being fed bucket-loads of "we still care about you," by the staff.

[dvdasacd]

Oh my... this site is breaking all records concerning drama, surpassing even the usual CN.

actually, that's a fun question to ask....i wonder.....aren't the epic ftn/sct dramas from 2007 still kinda bigger? or does it just have a legendary status due to being old ;)...i suppose that was more, soap opera/love story, not straight out war/rifts like ptp...

props goes to CN for being involved in the most dramas though, consistently over time (you can almost count on them)...they've had feuds that have permanently changed the face and structure of both the revolt and cfs forums, a massive feud with ptn, and several major dramas with FST and other individuals...

Shall we have an annual bt drama awards, then? :lol: with polls? why not...for the entertainment...we could have a most "epic" award, a consistency award, an encouragement award...best blog...(yeah we know who'll win that one), most dramatic individual (several contenders, gee...)...

[DWCreeper167]

The new stolen PTP site should say on the home page

"Abandon all hope ye who enter here"

[pro267]

props goes to CN for being involved in the most dramas though, consistently over time (you can almost count on them)...they've had feuds that have permanently changed the face and structure of both the revolt and cfs forums
Interesting. In what way did feuds in CN permanently change the "face and structure" of Revolt?

I'm seriously tempted to call out your statement as bullshit but will let you explain before passing such judgment.

[Polarbear]

props goes to CN for being involved in the most dramas though, consistently over time (you can almost count on them)...they've had feuds that have permanently changed the face and structure of both the revolt and cfs forums
Interesting. In what way did feuds in CN permanently change the "face and structure" of Revolt?

I'm seriously tempted to call out your statement as bullshit but will let you explain before passing such judgment.

I call it bullshit right now.

[dvdasacd]

Interesting. In what way did feuds in CN permanently change the "face and structure" of Revolt?

I'm seriously tempted to call out your statement as bull***** but will let you explain before passing such judgment.

I call it bull***** right now.
hmm...

well i suppose that's an interpretative statement...('changing the face and structure of revolt'). what i meant by that is that a section of revolt was removed due to a spat with some people who are now CN staff (this was like 2 years ago)...I'd have to check with friends but afaicr it was a major bt section like reviews or maybe even invites or something.

In hindsight my statement was misleading and exaggerated there, sorry..this is all i meant, and if I'm even wrong about my clarification of what i meant then ok I'm wrong, can easily get to the bottom of it)...would like to know as i don't like to state bs..

[Polarbear]

what i meant by that is that a section of revolt was removed due to a spat with some people who are now CN staff (this was like 2 years ago)...I'd have to check with friends but afaicr it was a major bt section like reviews or maybe even invites or something.


Nonsense. Invites requests/giveaways were removed because the majority on Revolt doesn't need invites to torrent sites. People are satisfied with what they have and many haven't joined any new tracker for ages. When you're long enough in the private tracker scene, you're not looking for invites anymore because you have every tracker you need. Do you really think anybody there cares about CN?

[dvdasacd]

Nonsense. Invites requests/giveaways were removed because the majority on Revolt doesn't need invites to torrent sites. People are satisfied with what they have and many haven't joined any new tracker for ages. When you're long enough in the private tracker scene, you're not looking for invites anymore because you have every tracker you need.
ok, maybe I'm wrong...I'm not hung up about it though...I do know there was a major drama between now-CN staff and revolt (I'm being very vague here as I believe parties involved and related parties don't want the exact details just openly gossed about, and, well, they're all my friends and I value their company/acquaintance), I know that there were threats and hate created, and that some reviews (and probably invites) were removed by a certain tracker...perhaps some people claim this and some people claim that...perhaps again this is all down to interpretation...perhaps for the definitive answer one would have to ask sys or savvy whether that drama contributed at all to the closing down of the reviews/invites section.


Do you really think anybody there cares about CN?

Not sure what your point is with that statement or how it relates to what I'm saying...or the points I'm making...which are pretty simple...apart from stating certain sparse facts (or trying to I guess :P). I don't actually care about any of this...I'm actually laughing at the drama...commenting on drama from a distance can be humorous sometimes, and even the parties involved laugh about it in later times (well, not always, hey :rolleyes:)...or, just no longer care/feel hot about it...

[pro267]

hmm...

well i suppose that's an interpretative statement...('changing the face and structure of revolt'). what i meant by that is that a section of revolt was removed due to a spat with some people who are now CN staff (this was like 2 years ago)...I'd have to check with friends but afaicr it was a major bt section like reviews or maybe even invites or something.
Nothing was changed on Revolt on account of CN, ever. Not yesterday, not a month ago, and certainly not 2 years ago (afaik CN didn't even exist 2 years ago).


In hindsight my statement was misleading and exaggerated there, sorry..this is all i meant, and if I'm even wrong about my clarification of what i meant then ok I'm wrong, can easily get to the bottom of it)...would like to know as i don't like to state bs..
If you don't like to state bullshit then may I suggest that in the future you refrain from commenting on subjects you know absolutely nothing about.

[1000possibleclaws]

This thread just got interesting :lol:

[cinephilia]

more monkeys please.

[IdolEyes787]

...I do know there was a major drama between now-CN staff and revolt (I'm being very vague here as I believe parties involved and related parties don't want the exact details just openly gossed about, and, well, they're all my friends and I value their company/acquaintance),

So instead you will just make vague allegations and therefore coat them all ,whether involved or not ,with the same bucket of shit.
Remind me never to be your friend.:unsure:

[Il_Professore]

more monkeys please.

amazing
best post ever

[eldiesel]

Why do people involve CN in every single discussion !

[dvdasacd]

...I do know there was a major drama between now-CN staff and revolt (I'm being very vague here as I believe parties involved and related parties don't want the exact details just openly gossed about, and, well, they're all my friends and I value their company/acquaintance),

So instead you will just make vague allegations and therefore coat them all ,whether involved or not ,with the same bucket of *****.
Remind me never to be your friend.:unsure:Friends make mistakes.

I might have made one then.

I'll check to be sure and if so, I learnt a lesson today.

[Rart]

I think it should be (customized for FST)



Godwin's law states: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler Revolt or CN approaches 1."


Funny how things turn out that way, huh?

Anyway, pham (or whoever has the control of the ptp.org domain) now has a message redirecting one to the .me site. (Should) be a good sign.

[cinephilia]

rart is a... oops, we're in the bt section. sorry.

[n00bz0r]

Learning is about more than simply acquiring new knowledge and insights..
/me is disappointed at the way this thread turned out to be..

[sez]

what?
this here is exactly why I don't think evolution quite rightly explains the origins of man.It's just not feasible that am sharing a common ancestor with him.
If he evolved then I didn't.



for someone who doesn't give a fuck,that's quite a detailed post.
You read his blog and I think all that matters to him and his Adsense account,your opinion doesn't mean shit.
Now imagine if you could just start clicking on the Ads.
I've seen the post and he has done the noble thing of acknowledging his sources.So what's your problem....mate?

Where did I say I don't give a fuck ?

an earlier post here linked to his latest blog post, which I predicted he would make here:
http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-more-drama-passthepopcorn-post3451081/postcount21
which then right on cue he did, after replying to me saying meh this lame bullshit could stay here:
http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-more-drama-passthepopcorn-post3451125/postcount23

My opinion doesn't mean shit...coming from a troll, that is more of a damp squib than an actual insult

I find backie's post's moronic, in no way do I find him 'noble' but at least he can put together a sentence or two without needing to insult someone because he is a poor debator

why do you always have to be such a dick insulting me for no reason.And I really meant it,your opinion doesn't mean shit,I dunno why you are still in denial.Just look at your post history and tell me which crap has influenced opinion or changed the world.

[Artemis]

Where did I say I don't give a fuck ?

an earlier post here linked to his latest blog post, which I predicted he would make here:
http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-more-drama-passthepopcorn-post3451081/postcount21
which then right on cue he did, after replying to me saying meh this lame bullshit could stay here:
http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-more-drama-passthepopcorn-post3451125/postcount23

My opinion doesn't mean shit...coming from a troll, that is more of a damp squib than an actual insult

I find backie's post's moronic, in no way do I find him 'noble' but at least he can put together a sentence or two without needing to insult someone because he is a poor debator

why do you always have to be such a dick insulting me for no reason.And I really meant it,your opinion doesn't mean shit,I dunno why you are still in denial.Just look at your post history and tell me which crap has influenced opinion or changed the world.

You ARE a troll, you only rock up to pour gasoline on the latest flamefest to watch it burn a bit brighter, calling you a troll isn't an insult, anyone here who reviews your post history will see it is the truth.
I am not in denial that you are a troll, I'm quite convinced of it, just as I am convinced that you are a poor debator since the first thing you do is call me a dick. To alot of people that do actually matter my opinion counts for quite alot. My opinion isn't going to influence history, but at the very least it is far less negative and nihilistic than your own.

[backie]

from http://onasoapbox.co.uk/2010/03/31/pass-the-popcorn-pass-the-buck/

I already posted about allegations of Pham fucking off with donations over a month ago.

And meh I am a bit busy these days so, guess this lame bullshit can be left here. :D

Yet as predicted, you did eventually post exactly this latest revelation on your blog. You simply regurgitate what is posted here plus in this case a little googling on your part.

It is exactly the same as the original post on your site after azazel posted his original disgust at spektormax for linking others to childporn images he was viewing on 5chan. Your revelation of spektormax details on your blog are simply copy & pasted details from a post that was later edited in this very forum, your information and your sources stem from the fact that you hover like a vulture over every site based e-drama.

But as I predicted, your response time is quite slow.

My point is you are a hack, you simply repeat what others have written, it isn't breaking news, you react (slowly) when a drama ensues then simply live over the threads refreshing every few minutes to update your tawdry blog.

p.s. you are still completely and utterly wrong with your 720p assertions too, do a little homework before posting on a technical aspect, or at least ask an encoder.

Ok heres whats what.

1) I posted about pham's details getting published, not this drama.
2) I did so, because someone requested I do so.
3) My sources email me. Also if I hover over edrama sites, how did I get the tps stuff? How did I get the Qlix stuff? One story, two post's source was here and the were emailed to me. Latest one's source wasn't here, it was a pastebin which I linked to. (Kinda was an email source too but not gonna give up there names)
4) Lets not forget the fact that FST censored that thread (before I even seen the damn thing) so the only source of uncensored intel was my blog.
5) I don't just post about drama.
6) Please look at the techincal specifictions on 720p. It will clearly state 720 vertical scan lines. It's basically the only techincal demands for it to be 720p.

[ca_aok]

Because posting people's info is clearly the mature thing to do :whistling

As for not posting about drama, the only posts I've seen not about drama are "Post your own blog articles", "Safe hosting", and "I know nothing about encoding but thought I'd make a post about it".

720 scan lines take into account the black bars cropped out during encoding to save space. If you take a source (often 1080i, or 1920x1080 before cropping), crop out the black bars, and then resize it to 1280x720, you've messed up the aspect ratio of the picture. I'd know, I just did this by accident on an encode the other day. 720p videos are resized for the 1280 width, and then the black bars removed by cropping are simply added by your media player of choice if you fullscreen the video.

Once again, stop being an idiot and do some research before making a blog post ;)

[backie]

720 scan lines take into account the black bars cropped out during encoding to save space. If you take a source (often 1080i, or 1920x1080 before cropping), crop out the black bars, and then resize it to 1280x720, you've messed up the aspect ratio of the picture. I'd know, I just did this by accident on an encode the other day. 720p videos are resized for the 1280 width, and then the black bars removed by cropping are simply added by your media player of choice if you fullscreen the video.

Actually you could crop the extra piss at the sides. Which generally have nothing of great interests. I know why the files aren't 720, but I am a stickler for techincal specs. Which those files fail in fullfilling. Which everyone seems to forgetting.

[DWCreeper167]

I agree actually. You have no idea how annoying it is when you are trying to "verify" torrents that are labeled as 720p when 90% of them are 1280x596 or 1280x545 or some other random crap due to someone cropping out the black bars.

720p = 1280x720 and should NOT be labeled as 720p unless it meets those obvious standards. The Scene and p2p groups seem to forget that. 720p by their standards seem to be anything 1280x???.

[The_Martinator]

5) I don't just post about drama.


I'm tempted to put this in my siggy. :lol:

[ca_aok]

Actually you could crop the extra piss at the sides. Which generally have nothing of great interests. I know why the files aren't 720, but I am a stickler for techincal specs. Which those files fail in fullfilling. Which everyone seems to forgetting.
I'll be sure to send the scene a memo saying you'd like a special release format prepared just for you. I'm sure they'll be thrilled :yup:

[amirji]

I'm seeing that drama is good for these trackers, seems like they want to rake in the bank. sct did it before it died, scl too. ftn and gft seem to have done it just for f***s sake, and pocket the money. what's the next trick to dupe users for their money? ;-) I wanna know, so I can do it for my tracker. I need extra money to get a 80 inch hd-led tv, then next month, what would I like to buy....

[Quarterquack]

I'm seeing that drama is good for these trackers, seems like they want to rake in the bank. sct did it before it died, scl too. ftn and gft seem to have done it just for f***s sake, and pocket the money. what's the next trick to dupe users for their money? ;-) I wanna know, so I can do it for my tracker. I need extra money to get a 80 inch hd-led tv, then next month, what would I like to buy....

If you actually run a tracker, god be with your members. I don't know where you got the idea that slandering other sites will make yours' preferable, but that's your choice.

[eldiesel]

I think it should be (customized for FST)



Godwin's law states: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler Revolt or CN approaches 1."


Funny how things turn out that way, huh?

Anyway, pham (or whoever has the control of the ptp.org domain) now has a message redirecting one to the .me site. (Should) be a good sign.

:lol:

[Artemis]

720 scan lines take into account the black bars cropped out during encoding to save space. If you take a source (often 1080i, or 1920x1080 before cropping), crop out the black bars, and then resize it to 1280x720, you've messed up the aspect ratio of the picture. I'd know, I just did this by accident on an encode the other day. 720p videos are resized for the 1280 width, and then the black bars removed by cropping are simply added by your media player of choice if you fullscreen the video.Actually you could crop the extra piss at the sides. Which generally have nothing of great interests. I know why the files aren't 720, but I am a stickler for techincal specs. Which those files fail in fullfilling. Which everyone seems to forgetting.

As I have replied to you before, being the 'stickler for technical specs', you should download untouched DVDR or Blu Ray rips and enjoy the the black bars around your movies in perfect aspect ratio.
If you do not remove the black bars before the encode you are wasting space no nothing, you are encoding useless data & would be a poor encoder for doing it, since encoding is about getting the maximum quality in both audio & video for the minimum amount of data.
If you are not prepared to understand how encoding works and what is done in preparing these movies then ca_aok's comment wasn't far from the truth:


I'll be sure to send the scene a memo saying you'd like a special release format prepared just for you. I'm sure they'll be thrilled

[phoenix_]

Actually you could crop the extra piss at the sides. Which generally have nothing of great interests. I know why the files aren't 720, but I am a stickler for techincal specs. Which those files fail in fullfilling. Which everyone seems to forgetting.

How do you expect people to keep reading your blog with the stupid crap you post (720p, unverified irc logs)?

And you expect people to provide proof that a log is a fake - that's ridiculous.

[cinephilia]

How do you expect people to keep reading your blog with the stupid crap you post (720p, unverified irc logs)?
because his detractors (including you) read his blog and keep giving him free publicity ?

[backie]

Actually you could crop the extra piss at the sides. Which generally have nothing of great interests. I know why the files aren't 720, but I am a stickler for techincal specs. Which those files fail in fullfilling. Which everyone seems to forgetting.

How do you expect people to keep reading your blog with the stupid crap you post (720p, unverified irc logs)?

And you expect people to provide proof that a log is a fake - that's ridiculous.

Yea it's shocking that I expect someone to prove something. And yea I could have just popped over to ptp's irc channel and asked them hey you giving pham money? And they would have admitted it if they were. Oh wait no couldn't do that, I could've asked pham. No wait he is all pissey over me hosting a copy of a dox drop on him and logically it would have been in his best interests to deny any deal.

Plus dumbfucks such as yourself make lovely comments on my blog which makes it worth reading all by themselves. Thanks :D

[pro267]

Who is this ignorant backie cawk and why is he allowed to post mindless spam regarding encoding. He obviously has absolutely no clue about what he's talking about.

[backie]

Who is this ignorant backie cawk and why is he allowed to post mindless spam regarding encoding. He obviously has absolutely no clue about what he's talking about.

I am backie, I would have thought it being my username would have made it click for you but it seems that's way over your head.

WHy am I allowed to post such stuff, because this is the internet and I pay my hosting bills.

[pro267]

You forgot to justify the ignorant cawk part :happy:

Oh, by the way, welcome to FST..

[phoenix_]

I am backie, I would have thought it being my username would have made it click for you but it seems that's way over your head.

WHy am I allowed to post such stuff, because this is the internet and I pay my hosting bills.

What is 1080p?

[backie]

I am backie, I would have thought it being my username would have made it click for you but it seems that's way over your head.

WHy am I allowed to post such stuff, because this is the internet and I pay my hosting bills.

What is 1080p?

What you think I know what the techincal specs of 720p are but not 1080p? Or are you that stupid you don't know how to google?

[X-Files]

he is backie. he is smart :yup:

...

...

:(

[pro267]

I am backie
I just found your blog and read the last log of you talking with the PTP staffers, and the fake logs from their IRC you published on your blog. Now that I've read that I just want to add to my statement above that you're a disgrace to the BT community, hell you're a disgrace as a human being.

I have no affiliation with PTP (never been a member) and even criticized them in several threads (this one included), but what you've done is simply outrageous. To post such stuff, without giving people a chance to comment *in advance*, then refuse to remove it and ask them to *prove* their innocence - that's mind boggling. Asking people to prove unsubstantiated bullshit that you got from an unknown source and posted on your blog without any verification is.. well.. all I can say is you're a scumbag, in the true sense of the word.

You seem to be a very bitter individual, probably a very lonely one as well if that's how you interact with people irl.

[backie]

I am backie
I just found your blog and read the last log of you talking with the PTP staffers, and the fake logs from their IRC you published on your blog. Now that I've read that I just want to add to my statement above that you're a disgrace to the BT community, hell you're a disgrace as a human being.

I have no affiliation with PTP (never been a member) and even criticized them in several threads (this one included), but what you've done is simply outrageous. To post such stuff, without giving people a chance to comment *in advance*, then refuse to remove it and ask them to *prove* their innocence - that's mind boggling. Asking people to prove unsubstantiated bullshit that you got from an unknown source and posted on your blog without any verification is.. well.. all I can say is you're a scumbag, in the true sense of the word.

You seem to be a very bitter individual, probably a very lonely one as well if that's how you interact with people irl.

1st off. HAHAHAHHAHAHA.

OMG I didn't let someone comment before I posted something on my blog. How terrible. It's even worse because I didn't remove because he said I had to. What sort of person am I that I don't censor myself at the will of other people. Makes me sick just to think about it. To make it worse I asked him to prove that something he wanted removed was fake, damn what sort of person does that? Too a torrent staffer aswell, who doesn't do what torrent staffers tell them to do?

Seriously get over yourself it's a fucking blog and ptp is a fucking torrent site. Not like I posted pictures of Obama buttfucking Putin or something that may actually cause shit to happen. Just because someone says something is fake doesn't mean it is, people lie. I know, because I lie, like when the cops asked me if I know something I claim I don't. Now asking for simple proof as both parties saying it's fake isn't asking that much. Also considering the amount of abuse they were giving, I was extremely polite.


<****> what are you going to do with all the donation money you're getting from the blog?
<backiee> I'm saving for a new PS3 and and iPad.. almost there.
<****>
<backiee> Why wouldn't I? torrenters are stupid.. all I do is create a bit of drama and they'll all donate like good little kids. I deserve it.
<****> how are donations going for you anyway?
<backiee> could be better. But I have a plan.
<****> plan?
<backiee> yeah. If the idiots don't pay, I'm considering collecting all their IPs in a database and selling to the highest bidder.
<****> you're not serious
<backiee> ofc I am, why wouldn't I be?
<****> well... mpaa can buy them.. lots of torrenters in there
<backiee> why would I care? If they don't donate then why should I give a damn what happens to them. It's their fault.


Simple, I wouldn't sell osb's database I would sell a torrent trackers database, shitload of evidence. :D Also the log I posted had two names so easy to go have the other person say it didn't happen.

[pro267]

Fresh from the oven:

<****> what are you going to do with all the donation money you're getting from the blog?
<backiee> I'm saving for a new PS3 and and iPad.. almost there.
<****> :O
<backiee> Why wouldn't I? torrenters are stupid.. all I do is create a bit of drama and they'll all donate like good little kids. I deserve it.
<****> how are donations going for you anyway?
<backiee> could be better. But I have a plan.
<****> plan?
<backiee> yeah. If the idiots don't pay, I'm considering collecting all their IPs in a database and selling to the highest bidder.
<****> you're not serious
<backiee> ofc I am, why wouldn't I be?
<****> well... mpaa can buy them.. lots of torrenters in there
<backiee> why would I care? If they don't donate then why should I give a damn what happens to them. It's their fault.

Now prove that the conversation above didn't happen. I got it in an email from an unnamed source.

[Cabalo]

For fuck's sake... some people take this all too seriously. Either they don't have that much stuff to keep their minds (and fingers) busy, or they are, simply put, not mature enough to understand this is the internet. :rolleyes:

As backie said, it's just a blog like countless others, and PtP is just a site that runs away with donations, like, again, countless others. (and some other ones who wish they could, but the plan fails after a couple of months).

Internet is serious business.

[pro267]

Now, why am I not surprised.

Let me try this.. black!

[bondgannu]

^^^

Well well a lot of drama is going on in there.../
And definetly backie spiced up this thread related to ptp.

Anyways without going offtopic, I will like to ask

Now as we have two different site, then whether the users can login in both of them?
And what will happen to the announce urls in the torents previously downloaded, or even many torrents may go dead.

Man I loved this tracker, and it was supposed to be my favourite movie tracker which now seems to go into deepshit!!!

Well this dark world of private tracker, always seems to have some problem now in there, ..... and I have noticed some of it in recent times!!

[Eargasm]

Right now .org site says to go to .me --- blah, either way I hope this tracker sticks around in one form or another. It was a good movie resource.

[anon]

Yeah, the .org domain tells you to go to .me now.


And what will happen to the announce urls in the torents previously downloaded, or even many torrents may go dead.

Just redownload all .torrents or change the announce URLs yourself.

[kooltilldend]

never been on the site...and after seeing this thread, doesn't feel like I'm missing much really

[cinephilia]

never been on the site...and after seeing this thread, doesn't feel like I'm missing much really
and yet, nothing about PTP's content has been mentionned in this thread.
really wonder how you came to the conclusion you were not "missing much".

[IdolEyes787]

It makes as much sense as
it was supposed to be my favorite movie tracker

I mean it either is or it isn't .You don't consciously go "well I think I will make this my favoritist site":unsure:

At least no one said it was the best because of the pretty design.

[7th]

never been on the site...and after seeing this thread, doesn't feel like I'm missing much really

actually I think you are :yup:




At least no one said it was the best because of the pretty design.

Ok, but lets face it... they got a pretty design out there! :lol:

[Eargasm]

ptp has been pretty awesome... it was the first movie tracker on gazelle, and that alone just kicked ass like you wouldn't believe. Sorting/searching by ratings, actors, directors, etc.

are there are any other good movie sites on gazelle now? I wouldn't know because I've been pretty content with ptp since they opened...

[BABBY]

ptp has been pretty awesome... it was the first movie tracker on gazelle, and that alone just kicked ass like you wouldn't believe. Sorting/searching by ratings, actors, directors, etc.

are there are any other good movie sites on gazelle now? I wouldn't know because I've been pretty content with ptp since they opened...

Being a gazelle based tracker does not make any difference to me.

Sorting pattern is really good in PTP, but content, speed are poor and more over maintaining ratio is also little bit hard due to few peer activity.

Their are many good sites than PTP and with almost a good upper hand in every thing.

[bondgannu]

^^

Well I dont agree to that../

PTP has good speeds on even older torrents, the torrent retention is much better as compared to P*N or CN..../

The content availability is also very good, and till now whatever I have hit on had good speeds associated to them, so no probs in that case./

Yeah, the seeding back problem is there, but its more due to peoples seeding with seedbox or awesome net with high up speeds rather that less peers imo./
Though peers may have gone down lately.../
But the above condition is more prevelant!!