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Wednesday
10-29-2003, 01:40 PM
Is our internet security as tight as we think it is? The techies at www.pcflank.com decided to test the leaks on our favourite firewalls.
Now I don't always believe everything I am told so I tested my ZA on www.grc.com
:o it does leak.
Could the techies on the forum please tell me whether this OK, bad or life threatening please?

Virtualbody1234
10-29-2003, 03:08 PM
It only threaten your personal life on Wednesday.

All other days your ok. ;)














J/k... What does this have to do with 'About our website and this Forum'?

Post in the right section next time.

Wednesday
10-29-2003, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@29 October 2003 - 15:08
It only threaten your personal life on Wednesday.

All other days your ok. ;)














J/k... What does this have to do with 'About our website and this Forum'?

Post in the right section next time.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Sparkle1984
10-29-2003, 03:41 PM
LOL !! I just had to laugh at this one!!! :lol:
And Wednesday is an unusual screen-name to use on a message board, isn't it?! :D

Wednesday
10-29-2003, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@29 October 2003 - 15:08









J/k... What does this have to do with 'About our website and this Forum'?

Post in the right section next time.
:"> sorry I've made a mistake. It won't happen again.

Wednesday
10-29-2003, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by Sparkle1984@29 October 2003 - 15:41

And Wednesday is an unusual screen-name to use on a message board, isn't it?! :D
Huh! Sparkle?

Marius24
10-29-2003, 03:45 PM
as long as u got ZA and no enemys ur ok ;)

Wednesday
10-29-2003, 04:25 PM
:) thanx

4play
10-29-2003, 05:09 PM
results of pc flank tests (http://www.pcflank.com/art41a.htm)

nice to see that agnitum outpost came out top i have been using it for a long while.

ZaZu
10-29-2003, 05:51 PM
From the Leak Test website

This first versions 1.x of Leaktest simply demonstrate how any TRIVIAL malicious program can easily bypass any current software firewall! The only exception to this is ZoneLabs' free ZoneAlarm, because ZoneAlarm is the only firewall to cryptographically certify the identity of executable programs.

Therefore, version 1.x of LeakTest is only meant to quickly and convincingly demonstrate an alarming flaw that currently exists in the vast majority of personal computer software firewalls. Because this is a serious problem, EVERY firewall manufacturer (except ZoneLabs) is currently working to correct this glaring deficiency.

Look through your firewall's permissions for the filename of any program that is granted access through the firewall. Then simply rename LeakTest to that name (just as a Trojan, virus, and spyware would) and run it. EVERY SINGLE FIREWALL I've tested — with the sole exception of ZoneAlarm — will be fooled and allow LeakTest to connect to and receive a bit of data from the NanoProbe server! (The Tiny Personal Firewall from Tiny Software has an option for catching this, but it is currently disabled by default.)

I have learned that ZoneAlarm (and optionally the Tiny Personal Firewall) goes the extra mile of generating a "Cryptographic Signature" for every permitted program. This signature is then regenerated and compared before any program of that name is again allowed access. This completely prevents this simple form of trusted program impersonation, but NO OTHER FIREWALLS OFFER THIS CAPABILITY.

Get ZoneAlarm here (http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/company/products/znalm/freeDownload.jsp)

nikita69
10-29-2003, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by Wednesday@29 October 2003 - 19:40
Is our internet security as tight as we think it is?
NO. Electronic Transmmition in general is based on 0 & 1. If someone creates a program or a hardware for certain functions (ZERO), then someone else can create counter functions (ONE) to such program or hardware.

EDIT: unless we have multiple AI based super computers created by geniouses in the AI Neurophysics arena, then it's a possibility.

http://www.google.com.pr/search?hl=es&ie=I...a+en+Google&lr= (http://www.google.com.pr/search?hl=es&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=%22computer+Neuro%22&btnG=B%FAsqueda+en+Google&lr=)
http://www.google.com.pr/search?hl=es&ie=I...a+en+Google&lr= (http://www.google.com.pr/search?hl=es&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=%22computer+Neurophysics%22&btnG=B%FAsqueda+en+Google&lr=)
http://www.google.com.pr/search?hl=es&ie=I...a+en+Google&lr= (http://www.google.com.pr/search?hl=es&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=%22Artificial+Intelligence+Neuro%22&btnG=B%FAsqueda+en+Google&lr=)

Wednesday
10-29-2003, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by 4play@29 October 2003 - 17:09

nice to see that agnitum outpost came out top i have been using it for a long while.
yeah a friend of mine uses outpost because he thinks that ZA can't cut it, but, so far ZA has worked well for me.

darkewolf
10-30-2003, 03:26 AM
the only firewall that is one hundred percent bulletproof against internet attacks is an empty space between the outlet in the wall and the port in your computer that it jacks into. if you arent connected to the internet, you might be safe.
Yeah, some work better than others, and some just dont work....but nothing is 100%. It's all a matter of what you are comfortable dealing with, and without; how paranoid you are (nothing wrong with paranoid...it keeps you alive); and who you piss off/what they know about the internet.

And I can see the ZA vs Sygate discussion coming, so I'm gonna go ahead and say this before it starts: the regular, free firewall that Sygate offers is NOT a full blown firewall, it has limitations placed upon it, unless you buy it...in which case, you are better off just going with the PRO version of it.

that said, I took the test at the flank test link that was posted, and my generic-off-the-shelf-from-circuit city Linksys Router passed all their tests with absolutely flying colors. Whereas the tests that were run on it from www.sygate.com came up with holes in it, as did one from one of the other sites that I ran it from, but I.....cant remember what the other site was. But I found it by going to yahoo and doing a search for "firewall test".

I'd really like it if somebody that was running that firewall that came with XP home would run the test, and give a generic report of how it did. Just to see if MS is full of hot air, or if they actually have bragging rights.