Emule or Torrents

[diceman89]

Which would you say is better? What are some of the pros and cons of the two? I've never used emule, so I'm curious.

[anon]

In a nutshell, eMule's retention for old stuff is fantastic, but the wait times and speeds are exasperating. With torrents it's the exact opposite.


Emule or Torrents

Definitely, torrents for new stuff.

[Expeto]

Which would you say is better?
depends, what you wanna do(wnload)?

[Stabber]

Torrents are way better in terms of speed . If you can't find something on torrents, and on rapidshare then use emule :)

[darkinc]

You can find lots of stuff on emule but ,torrents are better if you want to download new stuff.

[zot]

I consider Emule a very useful tool in finding rare files. When I'm looking for something, I first search on Usenet, and if I can't find it, then Bittorrent or filehosts like Rapidshare. Then eMule last in line.

There are a lot of things on ED2K that can't be found anywhere else. Just don't be in a hurry :)

[Stabber]

Whenever i search for a rare album or movie i can always find it on emule . This is the power of emule , the rare files which you can't find on trackers

[winddy]

Emule still better atm

[anon]

Emule still better atm

And why would that be..? :pinch:

[Tuxman]

eMule has everything, including a f*cking search function. Should be enough reason not to use BitTorrent bs.

The BT speed depends on its seeders, just like eMule's, BTW. "BT is better in terms of speed" is nonsense.

[anon]

The BT speed depends on its seeders, just like eMule's, BTW. "BT is better in terms of speed" is nonsense.

Totally right, although a lot of users here use private trackers, where there are much more seeders than leechers, which makes popular downloads blazingly fast. Some concerns such as the BT "credit crunch" come with that, though, but nothing's perfect. Private sites have tried to make up for it with bonus points and even ratio-free schemes.

[mosh]

speed talks here-
i take ths side of torrents- requires more care but worth it

the big thing that works for torrents is its private trackers option which gives it the clear edge

[SawyerX]

i would prmarly use torrent but if there are files on emule which you dont find on torrent, why not.

[CSS]

Torrents are better :D

[Mihai]

I'm with torrents since I haven't tried emule until now.Why?Simple.Because I get all I need from torrents.

[Stabber]

You should give emule a shot if you can' find something on torrents

[pone44]

Is it safer to use emule rather than public trackers?

[anon]

Is it safer to use emule rather than public trackers?

They're both just as insecure. Where do you live, and can you be sent letters for downloading there?

[bobmacans]

I am pleased if any one can post a good forum regarding that here.

[jayreal]

Torrents

[bijoy]

torrents, obviously!

[Stabber]

My favourite forum for emule links is fileheaven.org but registration is closed there for some years . Another good one is sharethefiles.com

[TheLeech]

My favorites F*N SCC

[Stabber]

My favorites F*N SCC

We are talking about emule links :P

[anon]

The thread title says "eMule or torrents". I guess he picked the latter and mentioned his two favorite trackers. Who cares as long as he gets those 20 posts, anyway? :dry:

[gamesover]

My favourite forum for emule links is fileheaven.org but registration is closed there for some years . Another good one is sharethefiles.com

Exactly, people who bitch and moan about Emule speeds probably aren't members of a great forum like fileheaven. I know when i get something from there it will always have tons of sources and it will start downloading right away at good speeds. Certainly not private tracker speeds, but not sit around and wait for days speed either. I also know I'm always getting the best quality releases, as far as video quality is concerned. If you want common scene releases though stick with trackers or rapidshare.

[Stabber]

My favourite forum for emule links is fileheaven.org but registration is closed there for some years . Another good one is sharethefiles.com

Exactly, people who bitch and moan about Emule speeds probably aren't members of a great forum like fileheaven. I know when i get something from there it will always have tons of sources and it will start downloading right away at good speeds. Certainly not private tracker speeds, but not sit around and wait for days speed either. I also know I'm always getting the best quality releases, as far as video quality is concerned. If you want common scene releases though stick with trackers or rapidshare.

Not to mention the great community there which is very active . I really love the thread with the funny pics ;)

[RasToRizE]

torrents is best for the new stuff.. emule is ok.. but imo torrents are better

[Stabber]

That's true for new stuff but for old rare stuff emule is better . There is also rapidshare but it's not free.

Emule is not that slow , you can get new files with some minutes of delay instead of using torrents

[jackywky]

i prefer torrents.

[Gorbux]

I used to have an account at fileheaven and now its gone due to inactivity. fml

[Stabber]

Most of the times emule is not necessary , but there are files that you can only find at emule

[aerospace]

My emule/edonkey doesn't work anymore. Back in the day the server list was phenemonal. Now it's sh**.

[anon]

I can post a list of working and trusted servers if you're interested. :)

[Stabber]

sb-innovation client works like a charm so far ;) I had no problem with servers so far

[anon]

Most of the server.met lists out there are full of fake servers. There's only a few you can actually trust.

[Hiccup]

I can post a list of working and trusted servers if you're interested. :)

That'd definitely be helpful if you could. I used to use emule quite a bit, but stopped after DDL/torrents alleviated most of needs, but there is still some stuff I'd like to check up on emule.

[anon]

Here you go :) Go to the Servers panel in eMule, right-click any of them, and select "Delete all". Then highlight everything in the code block below and press Ctrl+V in the eMule window - the servers should be added:

ed2k://|server|88.191.81.111|7111|/
ed2k://|server|88.191.228.66|7111|/
ed2k://|server|91.194.40.23|4184|/
ed2k://|server|95.211.73.65|6348|/
ed2k://|server|95.211.73.66|4113|/
ed2k://|server|95.211.121.156|3612|/
ed2k://|server|95.211.125.154|1469|/
ed2k://|server|95.211.125.155|4558|/
ed2k://|server|178.86.3.184|4184|/
ed2k://|server|193.107.208.37|4184|/
ed2k://|server|212.63.206.35|4242|/

[el7is]

of course
old emule
new torrent

[Hiccup]

Thanks a bunch anon-sbi for the servers!

[Stabber]

Basically what i do is :

1. Torrents
2.warez-bb
3.if i can't find the file i'm searching for emule

So in extremely rare cases i use emule

[talkboy]

1 host like fileserve hotfile rapid
2 torrents
3 anyone still emule? :|

[belabartok]

I actually prefer torrent, I find it much better than emule

[gamesover]

3 anyone still emule? :|

Yeah millions of people still use emule.

[crazydogman]

Depends what your searching for. If you want rare content then i would recommend emule but for new stuff torrents.

[Hiccup]

3 anyone still emule? :|

Yeah millions of people still use emule.

Yeah, and for some strange reason, a lot of foreign content is still mainly tied to/attached to Emule. Strange how it hasn't migrated out to something else unless I just don't know where to find it.

[blowser]

using very cd before but slowly move to public torrent and now just started in private

[Stabber]

verycd is a nice city with a lot of content but it's much slower than using bt for newer stuff

[frezar]

me torrent

[Tool]

Torrent is the best... But emule still having his space...

[gamesover]

Yeah millions of people still use emule.

Yeah, and for some strange reason, a lot of foreign content is still mainly tied to/attached to Emule. Strange how it hasn't migrated out to something else unless I just don't know where to find it.

One place you might try if you don't mind DDL is http://www.worldscinema.com/

[Renzokuken-]

Emule is a thing of the past. Torrents is now and future.

[anon]

Emule is a thing of the past. Torrents is now and future.

As much as I like torrents, I beg to differ with the first part. Please explain yourself.

[Hiccup]

Yeah, and for some strange reason, a lot of foreign content is still mainly tied to/attached to Emule. Strange how it hasn't migrated out to something else unless I just don't know where to find it.

One place you might try if you don't mind DDL is http://www.worldscinema.com/

Wow, thanks a ton! That site is great. Always love world cinema. I have some other DDL sites for world cinema. But my post was also just referring just in general towards music, applications, etc.

To keep this thread a bit back on topic, which Emule client/mod do you guys use/recommend?

[anon]

To keep this thread a bit back on topic, which Emule client/mod do you guys use/recommend?

Xtreme or ZZ-R. Probably the latter, given the fact it has loads more settings.

[Hiccup]

To keep this thread a bit back on topic, which Emule client/mod do you guys use/recommend?

Xtreme or ZZ-R. Probably the latter, given the fact it has loads more settings.

I've never heard of ZZ-R, but am now going to look it up. I mostly use Xtreme myself whenever I load up the ol' Emule. Haven't done it in a very long time, but I might have to soon for something....

[anon]

I've never heard of ZZ-R, but am now going to look it up.

It's a releaser mod, meant to squeeze every byte out of your upload speed. Of course, it can download just as fast (given there are enough peers you can take from, obviously).

It has some features of "questionable ethics" (i.e. don't upload to non-eMule or low ID clients), but you won't be banned for using it.

[gamesover]

Emule is a thing of the past. Torrents is now and future.

LOL making a broad statement with little information to back it up. I will go against what your saying and say you are completely wrong. Been using emule for years and will probably keep using it for many years more. Tell me what torrent site has even close to the vast archive of files that emule has. Join a good emule indexing forum and even the speeds are decent. Torrents have their own purpose and so does Emule.

[us7imp]

on emule slow download

[Hiccup]

Emule is a thing of the past. Torrents is now and future.

LOL making a broad statement with little information to back it up. I will go against what your saying and say you are completely wrong. Been using emule for years and will probably keep using it for many years more. Tell me what torrent site has even close to the vast archive of files that emule has. Join a good emule indexing forum and even the speeds are decent. Torrents have their own purpose and so does Emule.

Any good emule forum, that's open, that you could recommend?

[gamesover]

LOL making a broad statement with little information to back it up. I will go against what your saying and say you are completely wrong. Been using emule for years and will probably keep using it for many years more. Tell me what torrent site has even close to the vast archive of files that emule has. Join a good emule indexing forum and even the speeds are decent. Torrents have their own purpose and so does Emule.

Any good emule forum, that's open, that you could recommend?

http://sbigare.us/

[Disme]

Emule is a thing of the past. Torrents is now and future.

LOL making a broad statement with little information to back it up. I will go against what your saying and say you are completely wrong. Been using emule for years and will probably keep using it for many years more. Tell me what torrent site has even close to the vast archive of files that emule has. Join a good emule indexing forum and even the speeds are decent. Torrents have their own purpose and so does Emule.

QFT ... every P2P-method has it's pro's and cons, just dismissing one on very vague and shallow statements doesn't give much proof of intelligence.

[Stinson]

wow, bittorrent is definitely not the future...it's just a little "younger" than emule. anyway i wouldn't go with either one of them

[instinctis]

Personally i like more torrents, they seem more spread and easy and free to find everywhere.

[orcka]

Well it's not like either is necessarily faster....it depends.

[RussianNinja]

Emule sucks! Can't download a single CDM !!!!! Takes ages !!!!! Bittorrent ROCKS !!! :)

[doug]

Torrent 4ever :P

[flep]

eMule "gold years" just passed. But it was a good platform like 5 years ago.

Great times =)

[gamesover]

eMule "gold years" just passed. But it was a good platform like 5 years ago.

Great times =)

How have the gold years passed? All the files are still there.

[bumrocks]

Torrents for me, but a donkey kick to the balls sure comes in handy for some obscure or simply hard to find shizzle.

[thetrader]

Is edonkey still alive?
I thought it died 5 years ago :P

[anon]

Is edonkey still alive?

Surprise surprise...

I think that has been asked countless times already in this thread.

[johnny75]

Torrents for me

[jkl49]

It's probably been said already, but torrents are generally much faster, while eMule can be painfully slow. I've heard cases of people trying to get a 2gb file and it taking a full year or more. On the other hand, eMule has a lot of rare files and a lot of older files, and stuff that just isn't available on any torrents. That's really the only pro, otherwise just use torrents for everything else.

[vision114ro]

Torrents and usenet for me

[AIVENGO21]

Torrents

[Cold]

emule is good but too much settings and slow at one file

[Expeto]

emule is good but too much settings and slow at one file
what settings? Emule is as good as and as easy to use as always.

[Tuxman]

Slow? You can only download as fast as the sources give you, same in BitTorrent. eMule runs at full speed for me. :)
BT can't be faster.

[daiel39w69]

Torrent is the best

[Tuxman]

No, they are not.

[anon]

No, they are not.

Your mileage may vary.

[Tuxman]

How?

[anon]

Some people prefer torrents because they're fast and have a relatively low learning curve as well as less things to care about when compared to eMule (firewalled? Who cares, I can still leech). And some people prefer eMule because they do well with it, it's fast for them and they can always find the stuff they want, for example in your case.

You may argue that you always get full speed on eMule, but try telling that to the guy that wants to download the latest movie and is getting 60kB/s on eMule but 600 on TPB or the private tracker of his choice. Of course it's not your fault it he's a noob and can't even forward his ports for optimum functionality, but what can you do?

Even with all the right settings I (who first used eMule around the time it was released, ~8 years ago) have had slow speeds on new stuff. Yes, I've left the thing running 24/7. Yes, my ports are forwarded. Yes, I've uploaded a lot and tweaked every setting in my client.

So I've arrived at the same conclusions as lots of other people: eMule is for rare stuff and patient users. I do like how once you have some stuff you share you begin to upload the second you open the client, though. If private torrents were like that the (BT) world would be a better place.

Not attacking you of course, just making a small rant. :)

[Tuxman]

Telling me that torrents are "fast" shows me that you haven't got a clue of how P2P actually works.
This might explain why you guys develop 0-upload mods.

[anon]

Telling me that torrents are "fast" shows me that you haven't got a clue of how P2P actually works.

Install uTorrent. Don't change any settings. Go grab the latest movie from TPB or any other public indexer. Now install eMule from scratch, to a different directory, of course. Tweak it to hell. Try to get the same movie.

See?


This might explain why you guys develop 0-upload mods.

That's a different story entirely.

[Tuxman]

Tweak it to hell. Try to get the same movie.

See?
I did that a few months ago. Guess which one had won. Hint: It does not contain a "t".


That's a different story entirely.
So? If you are filesharers, why do you do that? The only explanation possible is: You are not.

[anon]

I did that a few months ago. Guess which one had won. Hint: It does not contain a "t".

Cool. Now tell random people to do that and you'll notice different results.


So? If you are filesharers, why do you do that? The only explanation possible is: You are not.

That feature isn't for outright leeching, it's for security reasons. I despise pure leeching as much as you (not that I expect you to believe me, anyway), but try telling that to the guy that wants a file that's only on eMule and can get disconnected or charged a fine if he's caught uploading copyrighted stuff. It's no wonder that many of those "0-upload mods" originate from Germany where that's how the legislation is.

[Tuxman]

Now tell random people to do that and you'll notice different results.
And I doubt they'll result in a very different point of view.


That feature isn't for outright leeching, it's for security reasons.
If you want security, get off of my beautiful eD2K/Kad networks. It can't survive with your view on "security".

[anon]

If you want security, get off of my beautiful eD2K/Kad networks.

Just curious, when did those networks become yours?


It can't survive with your view on "security".

Apparently it can as it's still standing. I do agree on that if everyone leeched without giving back the network would die, of course.

[Tuxman]

I want it to be alive, you try to kill it.
P2P is based on upload, not on download.

So it's, at least, more mine than yours.

[anon]

I want it to be alive, you try to kill it.

I don't even use eMule. Or torrents. Or P2P. :idunno:

[Tuxman]

So what is your problem then?

[anon]

Well, you're talking to me as if I used P2P and leeched 24/7 without uploading anything, or coded those eMule leecher mods. At least that's the impression I get. Both statements are false. Just thought I'd make that clear. Cheers.

[johhny]

well i used emule few years back for few rare tracks...well emule is slow as a fuck...i installed a tweaked version of emule...i was able to catch 400-500 kb/s
torrent & warez extremly fast :D

[Tuxman]

well emule is slow as a fuck... (...) torrent & warez extremly fast :D
1. "Warez" is not a P2P network.
2. You don't have any fucking clue about how P2P works.

[anon]

i installed a tweaked version of emule...i was able to catch 400-500 kb/s

Just curious, which version was it? If you don't want to say it here feel free to PM :) Because there are many non-leecher mods that are significantly faster than the vanilla eMule.


1. "Warez" is not a P2P network.
2. You don't have any fucking clue about how P2P works.

1. some people call file hosters "warez", although that's an incorrect term.
2. so if eMule isn't blazing fast for people, they don't have a fucking clue about how P2P works? :unsure:

[Tuxman]

1. some people call file hosters "warez", although that's an incorrect term.
"OCH is faster than eMule!!1" --> no fucking clue about how P2P works. (Besides that, non-premium Uploading.to etc. are significantly slower than eMule.)


2. so if eMule isn't blazing fast for people, they don't have a fucking clue about how P2P works? :unsure:
People who say $P2PNetworkA would be "faster" than $P2PNetworkB don't have a clue about what their DL speed depends on, so: Yep.

[anon]

"OCH is faster than eMule!!1" --> no fucking clue about how P2P works. (Besides that, non-premium Uploading.to etc. are significantly slower than eMule.)

And Mediafire is lightning fast. It's all about which hosters we're talking about.


People who say $P2PNetworkA would be "faster" than $P2PNetworkB don't have a clue about what their DL speed depends on, so: Yep.

Maybe they don't want to go to the effort of making those conditions proper when that's done largely more transparently on $P2PNetworkB. :unsure:

[Tuxman]

It's all about which hosters we're talking about.
You can't take hosters as a comparison object for P2P networks. (Well, you can, but...)


Maybe they don't want to go to the effort of making those conditions proper when that's done largely more transparently on $P2PNetworkB. :unsure:
Which does not falsify my thesis, does it?

[anon]

You can't take hosters as a comparison object for P2P networks.

You can compare them as means of downloading stuff, however. Which is that I thought people were doing here.


Which does not falsify my thesis, does it?

I'm just shooting in the dark, man. :(

[Tuxman]

You can compare them as means of downloading stuff, however. Which is that I thought people were doing here.
You can drive by bike or by car, and the fact that a car is faster and does not require actual work to run does not make a bike nonsense, right?


I'm just shooting in the dark, man. :(
And missing the deer.

[anon]

You can drive by bike or by car, and the fact that a car is faster and does not require actual work to run does not make a bike nonsense, right?

Nope.

And eMule isn't made nonsense either just because other networks/protocols are preferred by some people. :unsure:

[Tuxman]

That's what it was about, initially.

[PT8023]

emule is better

[Jadoogar]

Torrent stuff is the best but users of emule i heard giving good speed

[anon]

emule is better


Torrent stuff is the best but users of emule i heard giving good speed

thanks

[teflon05]

I've played around with emule a few times, but I must have had it set up wrong, because in my experience, it was painfully slow. Don't know what I had wrong, but I was lucky to get 20 kbps. It was almost like dial up lol. I stuck with newsgroups & torrents, & the occasional ddl.

[zot]

Getting high download speeds out of eMule is a bit of an art form. Some files can download fast, but many are slow. That's what the developers wanted. Emule gives higher priority to rare files, and while this speeds up the download speed of rare files, it also slows down the speed of common files.

Because of way everything is queue'd in ed2k, maxing out one's bandwidth on eMule generally requires downloading numerous files simultaneously, and overlapping them.

[anon]

Because of way everything is queue'd in ed2k, maxing out one's bandwidth on eMule generally requires downloading numerous files simultaneously, and overlapping them.

In contrast, I recall sometimes I'd open eMule and find myself uploading before it even finished connecting :lol:


Both services have same style. Downloading style is same and accuracy download file is well.

You may be able to parallel some of the concepts in both protocols (servers are like trackers, Kad is like DHT), but BT and eMule aren't the same.

[Stabber]

Honestly emule is my last choice if i can't find something , which rarely happens . Firstly try it on pv trackers , then public , then usenet , then warez-bb if all these fails which is very unlikely then i try my luck on emule ;)