Deleting the original ripper info?

[Expeto]

Yesterday I made a nice torrent and put it to tracker A. Than went tracker B and found out the a copy of the same file was already there. The problem was both files have exact same md5 but at tracker B every bit of information of the release group was wiped systematically. I'm not talking about just a mistake, group name was removed from all files, there was only two lines was missing from technical info "Ripper:" and "Subber:", and tracker B was added its own name to the end of the file.

I'm extremely disappointed, and thinking about downloading random stuff to kill my buffer and ask to IRC stuff to close my acc. Am I overreacting? Is this common practice? Which trackers are this cheap?

[chrisbeebops]

More common than you'd think for one tracker to steal content from another without giving any credit to the source.

Although it can happen with member encodes, most commonly uploaders of one 0day site will download packs and releases from another tracker to upload to their own. Since all scene releases are the same, an uploader could pretend to have ftp access for uploading when really all they have is accounts at many other torrent sites to leech from. They can attain the "prestige" associated with an uploader rank without the knowledge (or $$$) required for gaining and maintaining ftp access.

If you really feel that poorly about it, complain to tracker B staff. Any of the following could happen:
1. The torrent may be edited to give credit to yourself.
2. The torrent may be deleted.
3. Your message may be ignored.
4. Your account may be disabled for having the audacity to accuse one of their uploaders of such a crime.

[P2PDog]

Ya gotta love it when someone steals something, then gets all indignant and vengeful when someone steals it from them :lol:


I'm extremely disappointed, and thinking about downloading random stuff to kill my buffer and ask to IRC stuff to close my acc.

Yeah, that'll teach em'! :P

[anon]

I'm extremely disappointed, and thinking about downloading random stuff to kill my buffer and ask to IRC stuff to close my acc. Am I overreacting? Is this common practice? Which trackers are this cheap?

No need to waste bandwidth on files you don't want, if that's what you're talking about.

If the tracker runs on some sort of TBdev frontend, try appending /delacct.php to the site's URL first. That may save you the hassle of having to ask. :lol:

As for your last questions, this isn't unheard of. I've seen SCC packs on TL (the uploader changed the torrent's name and description, but left an SCC NFO inside), and at least one from HD-Bits.ro on IPT, with all the original credits edited to make it look like the IPT uploader did all the work.

[Expeto]

complain to tracker B staff
uploader was "SeniorStaff"


Yeah, that'll teach em'! :P
You can do quite alot of damage with 10mb/s seedbox which is running "while 1=1 ; do rm -rf torrents/* ; sleep 400; done" for all night, its like H&R , but you don't actually run, you keep hitting :) H&H!
But they won't even worth it, I won't be doing it



/delacct.php to the site's URL first. That may save you the hassle of having to ask. :lol:
Thanks for info, it will come handy some day.



As for your last questions, this isn't unheard of. I've seen SCC packs on TL (the uploader changed the torrent's name and description, but left an SCC NFO inside), and at least one from HD-Bits.ro on IPT, with all the original credits edited to make it look like the IPT uploader did all the work.

It not very surprising a private tracker to steal from another, but stealing from a public tracker, that's is a whole new level of low...

The real reason I'm outraged is, the file was downloaded from MVgroup,a public tracker, my favorite one. They are mostly volunteers striving very hard to make knowledge accessible. Unlike TV shows , its a real challenge to keep documentaries alive in a public tracker.

Seeing senior stuff of ptm stealing from MVgroup , and doing it twice in same day... made me hate myself for seeding PTM torrents.

[P2PDog]

Expeto: What do you mean by "made a nice torrent"? Did you create the content, or did you just steal it from someone? If you stole it, then you don't appear to be all that concerned with the original creator of that content, so why do you think anyone should be all that concerned with "stealing" it from you?

[Cabalo]

Everybody is stealing from someone else. The movies are stolen, games too and so do TV serials. Where's the honor? For sure, not in the filesharing world.

[RussianNinja]

Where's the honor?

Sometimes you got no other choice!

Imagine: you get in your well desired tracker! No free content, you got bullshit internet (20-30 KB/s crappy upload speed), you are behind firewall, that means: passive!
You wanna make a ratio, but you can't download a large file, what to do? UPLOAD a torrent! But from where do you get the content?
You can rapidshare for it or google for it, but hey, there are tons of trackers, even in the same style! Like e-learning... You got a book from bitspyder/bitme, upload it to thegeeks.bz...
What do you get? You are the uploader, you can have some upload credit, at least your ratio will be fine, and you won't be disabled! What did get a tracker? Another book. What did get the members of the tracker (thegeeks.bz) ? More knowledge! Why is it good to move content form Tracker A to tracker B ? Because not everyone can get into Bitme/Bitspyder, but "everyone" can get into Thegeeks.bz !!! More people get their desired knowledge! That's the honor of the original uploader who steels content. Knowledge for everyone...

[ca_aok]

Exclusivity rules are idiotic and hypocritical. Sucks that they scrubbed your nick though, your e-peen must be shrinking :(

[whatcdfan]

i see the public trackers are filled up to neck by encodes stolen from the private trackers and i agree with russian ninja it helps people like me to have have access to that quality content without and hassle since i m not at any private tracker but its really LOW the credits shud go to the original releasers in order to restore the faith.

[Expeto]

If you stole it, then you don't appear to be all that concerned with the original creator of that content, so why do you think anyone should be all that concerned with "stealing" it from you?
I repacked few episodes, not touching any of the ripper info, and bothering to add the clickeble link of the group to the bottom of my torrent.

As Cabalo said, this is how it works. You don't really notice at at normal tracker, where most of the file is newsgroup originated, but in education trackers you can easily see exact same files appears at other trackers few hours after original appearance. This is pretty OK, I don't think anything wrong with getting from somewhere to put another, this is sharing(and growing e-penis)

As I said I'm a big fun of MVgroup, this was why originally overreacted and made such a big fuzz

[Disme]

I love how everybody is telling the OP he has no right to be mad because people stripped the info ...

There is no honor amongst thieves, unless there are invite-sellers involved or P2L-systems at certain trackers or trackers that 'sell' invites for donations. In that case all the people that claimed in this thread there is no honor amongst thieves, start preaching how immoral the selling of invites is and how despicable it is to make people pay for content.

Can't help it but I find it very hypochrite!

[P2PDog]

Are you comparing apples and oranges, Disme, or just trying to build a nice strawman ;)

The OP has no rights or claims to the content he uploaded, he didn't help create it, all he did was package it so that others could share it, yet he's here whining and crying that he's not getting due credit for it. As someone else already alluded to, it appears that his motives are driven less by the want to share than by the desire for e-peen.

[Disme]

Wasn't he complaining someone ripped the initial ripper's info?

[P2PDog]

Either way, who cares. Neither of them own the content in question so who cares what anyone did with it after they downloaded it?

[Disme]

So, like I said ... I don't like the double standards regular, non-selling, non P2Leech-adepts use.
On the one hand you have to obey tracker-rules, don't sell free shit etc ... but on the other hand you shouldn't give a damn about the people who delivered you the goods???

I find that paradoxal!

[P2PDog]

Apples != Oranges

[The_Martinator]

Why would rippers want to bring more attention to themselves than necessary is what I'd like to know...

[A]

Apples != Oranges
They are both fruits.