Mp3 Quality

[XxKrNxStyLeZxX]

Is there a program to change the quality of the mp3's ive already downloaded?? i dont wanna re download the songs....for example if i have a song that is 128 kbps quality thing...can i somehow change it to 320 kbps or something?? please help...thx!

[LTJBukem]

Even if you could, there would be no point. The original quality of audio would remain the same.

Great idea though :P

:)

[Ariel_001]

you can not make something that bad quality good quality. The mp3 file you got can not be make better than it aready is. In other words you can`t get back what you aready lost. :(

[Marius24]

Originally posted by Ariel_001@6 November 2003 - 21:25
you can not make something that bad quality good quality.
128kbs is bad quality its bout average :huh:



krN u could make the quaility size better but there is no point cos the sound would stay the same if not worse :blink:

[sparsely]

anything below 192 CBR is pointless. :rolleyes:

[bob_the_alien]

Originally posted by Sparsely@6 November 2003 - 20:42
anything below 192 CBR is pointless. :rolleyes:
I don't know about that, I usually rip mp3s at 256, but when I listen to mp3s encoded at 128 and 256 or 192, except for usually the volume difference, I can't really hear the difference in quality.
Maybe I'm just deaf, but I don't hear it.

However when the mp3s are encoded under 128, I can start to hear the difference in quality, but 128 and up, seems fine to me.

[ninjamonkey]

"However when the mp3s are encoded under 128, I can start to hear the difference in quality, but 128 and up, seems fine to me. "

same thing here.

[InverseKinetix]

I just copied a lot of LP's to mp3 and I used 128. The sound is just fine. If you are using WINAMP to play mp3s try this little plugin called enhancer, it gives the sound a nice little boost http://classic.winamp.com/plugins/detail.j...mponentId=81361 (http://classic.winamp.com/plugins/detail.jhtml?componentId=81361)


edit: it only works on versions prior to 3, worth going back for the improved sound

[Rip The Jacker]

Originally posted by Ariel_001@6 November 2003 - 14:25
you can not make something that bad quality good quality. The mp3 file you got can not be make better than it aready is. In other words you can`t get back what you aready lost. :(
Yup. The worst thing you can do is download shitty MP3's with a 96 (or lower) quality. Then convert those shitty MP3's to a quality of 192 (or higher), then share them. Please don't do anything like that, the quality won't be any better.

[the-ninja69]

Originally posted by InverseKinetix@6 November 2003 - 19:49
I just copied a lot of LP's to mp3 and I used 128. The sound is just fine. If you are using WINAMP to play mp3s try this little plugin called enhancer, it gives the sound a nice little boost http://classic.winamp.com/plugins/detail.j...mponentId=81361 (http://classic.winamp.com/plugins/detail.jhtml?componentId=81361)


edit: it only works on versions prior to 3, worth going back for the improved sound
Thats a kick ass plug-in, been using it for awhile and it works great. Also you can use this plug-in with winamp 5 too.

[Barbarossa]

Originally posted by XxKrNxStyLeZxX@6 November 2003 - 22:19
Is there a program to change the quality of the mp3's ive already downloaded?? i dont wanna re download the songs....for example if i have a song that is 128 kbps quality thing...can i somehow change it to 320 kbps or something?? please help...thx!
Mp3 is a "lossy" compression. Once you've got a 128 bitrate mp3, you've lost data from it that you can never get back even if you try to reencode at 320. (Don't EVER do this by the way, it's annoying!)

192 I think is optimum; 160 is acceptable; 128 isn't good, and with a half-decent stereo you can tell the difference.

Anything above 192 is pointless unless it's your dogs favourite tune (or you want a "perfect" digital backup!)

[muchspl2]

finally someone else who like the enhancer, I have been spamming that for awhile
put it on general improvements and it doesn't get any better

[fr600]

Originally posted by XxKrNxStyLeZxX@7 November 2003 - 04:19
Is there a program to change the quality of the mp3's ive already downloaded?? i dont wanna re download the songs....for example if i have a song that is 128 kbps quality thing...can i somehow change it to 320 kbps or something?? please help...thx!

If you change from 128 kpps to 320 kbps the quality will remain the same. In fact its just gonna take more hdd space...

[fkdup74]

i call that fake ass bitrate, ive gotten 128k songs that sounded better than 190 or up bitrates, wtf? probably some of those "increased bitrate" mp3's...
i've gone thruogh some of my 128's and tried to replace em eith 160 and up, dont always work, and like it was said before, it just takes up more space
of course the type of bitrate has to be considered (constant, average, variable)

[LTJBukem]

Originally posted by fr600@ 7 November 2003 - 13:42
If you change from 128 kpps to 320 kbps the quality will remain the same. In fact its just gonna take more hdd space...

:lol: :lol: :lol: You're priceless man.

[bob_the_alien]

Originally posted by LTJBukem+7 November 2003 - 14:30--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (LTJBukem @ 7 November 2003 - 14:30)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-fr600@ 7 November 2003 - 13:42
If you change from 128 kpps to 320 kbps the quality will remain the same. In fact its just gonna take more hdd space...

:lol: :lol: :lol: You&#39;re priceless man. [/b][/quote]
It’s true though, what the average 128 br song i about 3 Megs,
And at 320 br are usually average about 10 megs. That&#39;s quite a difference in hard drive space, especially for something that worthless to do anyway.

[LTJBukem]

Originally posted by bob_the_alien+7 November 2003 - 18:39--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bob_the_alien @ 7 November 2003 - 18:39)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by LTJBukem@7 November 2003 - 14:30
<!--QuoteBegin-fr600@ 7 November 2003 - 13:42
If you change from 128 kpps to 320 kbps the quality will remain the same. In fact its just gonna take more hdd space...

:lol: :lol: :lol: You&#39;re priceless man.
It’s true though, what the average 128 br song i about 3 Megs,
And at 320 br are usually average about 10 megs. That&#39;s quite a difference in hard drive space, especially for something that worthless to do anyway. [/b][/quote]
How did i not see that coming. :)

Yes mate, i know. You&#39;ll see that i posted the first reply to the original poster. What i find funny is.... Actually, i&#39;m not going to explain.

:)

[Marius24]

Originally posted by LTJBukem+7 November 2003 - 17:46--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (LTJBukem @ 7 November 2003 - 17:46)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by bob_the_alien@7 November 2003 - 18:39

Originally posted by LTJBukem@7 November 2003 - 14:30
<!--QuoteBegin-fr600@ 7 November 2003 - 13:42
If you change from 128 kpps to 320 kbps the quality will remain the same. In fact its just gonna take more hdd space...

:lol: :lol: :lol: You&#39;re priceless man.
It’s true though, what the average 128 br song i about 3 Megs,
And at 320 br are usually average about 10 megs. That&#39;s quite a difference in hard drive space, especially for something that worthless to do anyway.
How did i not see that coming. :)

Yes mate, i know. You&#39;ll see that i posted the first reply to the original poster. What i find funny is.... Actually, i&#39;m not going to explain.

:) [/b][/quote]
u dont need 2 :lol:

[Johnny_B]

The sound will not look the same.
Reencoding 128 bitrate to 192, 256 or 320 will degrade the sound even more because mp3 encoders will remove even more psychoacoustics (the high and low frequencies we humans can&#39;t hear) from the already lossy 128.
This is how the encoder works and you can&#39;t change the fact that it will always remove data from an audio file, even if you&#39;re encoding from a lower to a higher bitrate.

128 is still a sh*tty bitrate unless it&#39;s properly ripped (using EAC or CDex with the LAME encoder), although it still falls short when compared to other bitrates.

192 kbps should be the standard because it&#39;s a no brainer. Even if people don&#39;t know jack sh*t about encoding they will still produce a high quality rip if they go for 192.

Unfortunately, most people are still living in the dark when it comes to mp3 encoding and that&#39;s why Kazaa is full of 128 bitrate songs. :(

[Cl1mh4224rd]

lame.exe --alt-preset standard

...is all you need for a good encode. :)

[Burre]

it is absolutely possible to enhance the quality of an Mp3 file with a good encoder. media encoder 9 will convert mp3 to HD .wma file, and it DOES sound better. I do this with all my favourite files.
a good encoder will enhance the peaks to a normalised level, andincrease the bitrate.
however, if you have sucky PC speakers, you might not hear the difference, and yu probably need a dose of www.avsforum.com

anyway, mp3 sucks ass after you heard High definition audio from DVD-Audio.
no musiclover with respect for himselfshould settle for mp3 quality.

[Ariel_001]

anyway, mp3 sucks ass after you heard High definition audio from DVD-Audio.
no musiclover with respect for himselfshould settle for mp3 quality.


The quality of an MP3 REALLY depends on the encoder you use. It is possible to have very good quality at 128 bit if you use a really good encoder.

In other words

quality encoder + quality source= quality MP3

[shinzuiski]

you can most probably change the bitrate of the mp3, but as many others have said i dont think it will make it any better quality, it might just change the size.

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Originally posted by Burre@8 November 2003 - 06:17
it is absolutely possible to enhance the quality of an Mp3 file with a good encoder. media encoder 9 will convert mp3 to HD .wma file, and it DOES sound better.
I&#39;m sorry, but that&#39;s just not technically possible. Not with any lossy audio format/encoding process.

What you&#39;re most likely experiencing is a little trick I read about a while back, and one that WMP apparently uses to fool you into thinking the sound is higher quality. That trick? It increases the volume by a mere 3 decibels (dBa).